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Old 09-25-2008, 10:30 AM   #1
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Default Re: Best preperation: Get out of "survivor mode"

Stop blaming fear for irrationalizations. Yes, people get scared. and they SHOULD. If I'm cooking on the stove and accidentally lean my hand on the burner and suddenly feel like my hand is on fire, I HOPE I get scared and FEAR burning and take my hand away. Instead, if I say (once my hand is on fire) that all I need to do is focus on "the light" and leave my hand on the burner, I FEEL I'm an idiot. I get the point of mind over matter, but until you can control that... don't convce others to rest their hands on a hot stove.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:20 AM   #2
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Stop blaming fear for irrationalizations. Yes, people get scared. and they SHOULD. If I'm cooking on the stove and accidentally lean my hand on the burner and suddenly feel like my hand is on fire, I HOPE I get scared and FEAR burning and take my hand away. Instead, if I say (once my hand is on fire) that all I need to do is focus on "the light" and leave my hand on the burner, I FEEL I'm an idiot. I get the point of mind over matter, but until you can control that... don't convce others to rest their hands on a hot stove.
That is not the "fear" we are adressing here. That is a natural reflex reaction, just like if you step into a bees hive and they all come buzzing after you you will run scared. That is in the moment and natural. Fear of what "might happen" in the future is not natural. It is based upon things that might or might not "be true" or "become true". It will make you live in a fearful mode all the time because of endless "what ifs" generated by the ego/mind who perpetuate itself true fear.

In fact; if you "buy into" the doom/gloom future scenario you are actually guilty of cocreating it. Have you ever thought of that? Every person that "wakes up" to these kinds of scenarios are giving their attention and thus power to them.

It is not enough to just wake up to the plans of the dark side and "react" to them. Then you are playing their game and walk into their trap. One has to transcend these plans and start to envision the future you would really like to see. The very least a conscious evolved person should do if unable to transcend the plan of the dark is to let go of fear about it.
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:38 PM   #3
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Default Re: Best preperation: Get out of "survivor mode"

Sanat is right. Survivor mode is the taking over of the mind by animal instincts. And man must master the animality he has invested. We are not animals but we believe this is all there is.

Survivor mode is existence. When in survival mode, people exist. They do not live. This can only mean that life is not integrated at this level.

Because death is not part of life. Life cannot die. Existances can be wiped out into death.

Saying that death is part of life is an oximoron. It makes no real sense. But it is the conclusion of a person who survives, who exists, but who does not yet lives.

So I totally concur with the title of this thread. Man must be extracted from his existential condition, and lose his survival consciousness to start living.

This implies starting to act in accordance with light within, and that light has no fear.

The ego is constantly assaulted with the instincts of an animal body he is connected to and has lost sight of his origin. His origin is life, but now he dies. He lived, and now he exists.

But it is not his origin that dies but the memory of his experience. But the ego believe he is that memory. And the laws behind that memory is to survive. It is the function of memory to seek perpetuity.

The call of Sanat to escape survival and start living is a call to which I concur totally.
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:19 PM   #4
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That is not the "fear" we are adressing here. That is a natural reflex reaction, just like if you step into a bees hive and they all come buzzing after you you will run scared. That is in the moment and natural. Fear of what "might happen" in the future is not natural. It is based upon things that might or might not "be true" or "become true". It will make you live in a fearful mode all the time because of endless "what ifs" generated by the ego/mind who perpetuate itself true fear.

In fact; if you "buy into" the doom/gloom future scenario you are actually guilty of cocreating it. Have you ever thought of that? Every person that "wakes up" to these kinds of scenarios are giving their attention and thus power to them.

It is not enough to just wake up to the plans of the dark side and "react" to them. Then you are playing their game and walk into their trap. One has to transcend these plans and start to envision the future you would really like to see. The very least a conscious evolved person should do if unable to transcend the plan of the dark is to let go of fear about it.
then how does one take this into the NOW. to be present in a current situation. if the now shows certain trends or that there might be a period of adjustment before a change? where is the line drawn between preparation and panic? not to close ones eyes and chant OMMM very loudly as to drown out all else (actually i have been doing that lately when overwhelmed lol but i cant do it nonstop so...) how can one be both rational and realistic?
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