Lucifer: Deity of the Elite

[14 Chakras]

Jesus was always quoting scripture like any good rabi was he?

I read something very different. Interesting, same book, some people hear and see different things than others.

Who was Jesus constantly denouncing as false teachers and as sons of the devil and as serpents and vipers?

He was denouncing the very ones who quoted scripture over and over to him, the scribes and the pharisees.

When Jesus quoted scripture, it was usually in response to the fundamentalist who were quoting scripture to him trying to prove him wrong and trip him up based on outer rules and laws. He would quote scripture back such as:


10:30 I and [my] Father are one.
10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?


Ye are Gods is what Jesus said. I and my father are One.

Yet some would call this blasphemy.

Specifically the ones that had Jesus crucified, they would call this blasphemy.

They would quote their trusty bible in the face of the Living Word.

What did Jesus have to say about those who were the most knowledgeable in scripture and constantly quoting it to let the people know how terrible they were and how they better repent or the great Jehovah would punish them? He said:

You're sons of vipers.
You do the works of your father the devil.
Outside you act all clean and like you are so holy, but inside you are filled with dead mens bones.

etc. etc. etc.

These same ones who claimed to be so close to God and have God in the book. These are the same ones that had Jesus put on the cross.


Would not the same happen today from fundamentalist leaders who worship with their lips but not in their hearts?

The laws of Life are written on our inward parts, they are empowering and they are love based. Are we listening is the key question.

[P4BL0]

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[14 Chakras]

Freaky pics P4Blo. When I think of Jesus, I don't like to think of a guy on a cross, I like to think of the Living Jesus Christ who arose from that cross 2000 years ago, not the one bad day here!

First one is not of "Satan" or "Lucifer" it's of Baphomet.


There are many fallen beings, tons and tons, and then more tons. It's a big galaxy and beings from all around it fell.. there's not just one bad dude, quite a few of them... none are remotely as powerful as any of the Beings of light, but have been allowed to continue to play out their dark fantasies in the hope that they would eventually see the light, bend the knee and decide to continue their evolution in harmony with creation rather than working against it...

You have to remember, when an angel falls, they still have family in the spiritual realm, in the higher realms, who want them to come back! So they are given a chance to play out the dark fantasies...

Now eventually that chance comes to an end and they are taken for judgement to the court of sacred fire... this is happening now... these guys are being taken and creation will be able to continue without the parasites and ultra deception constantly taking it backwards...

This is a changing of the ages and an unpresedented opportunity for all of us to come up much higher in consciousness and make great strides in our spiritual evolution.

It's ALL about remembering who we really are... sons and daughters of the infinite co-creating in the eternal Now.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Freaky pics P4Blo. When I think of Jesus, I don't like to think of a guy on a cross, I like to think of the Living Jesus Christ who arose from that cross 2000 years ago, not the one bad day here!

First one is not of "Satan" or "Lucifer" it's of Baphomet.


There are many fallen beings, tons and tons, and then more tons. It's a big galaxy and beings from all around it fell.. there's not just one bad dude, quite a few of them... none are remotely as powerful as any of the Beings of light, but have been allowed to continue to play out their dark fantasies in the hope that they would eventually see the light, bend the knee and decide to continue their evolution in harmony with creation rather than working against it...

You have to remember, when an angel falls, they still have family in the spiritual realm, in the higher realms, who want them to come back! So they are given a chance to play out the dark fantasies...

Now eventually that chance comes to an end and they are taken for judgement to the court of sacred fire... this is happening now... these guys are being taken and creation will be able to continue without the parasites and ultra deception constantly taking it backwards...

This is a changing of the ages and an unpresedented opportunity for all of us to come up much higher in consciousness and make great strides in our spiritual evolution.

It's ALL about remembering who we really are... sons and daughters of the infinite co-creating in the eternal Now.

Displaying the Crucifixion of Christ...over and over again seems Satanic to me. Consider the 'Bent Cross' which the Pope carries. The Mass/Eucharistic Liturgy symbolically crucifies Christ over and over again. Some Satanic rituals...such as the Black Mass...use a twisted version of the Mass/Eucharistic Liturgy. We should focus on the words of Christ...and focus on seeing Christ in all persons. Crucifixes in Christian Chruches are sort of like having large color pictures of the J.F.K. assassination displayed prominently in all government buildings. Do you see my point?

Also...we shouldn't think of ourselves as being God. We should recognize and reverence the Holy Spirit within All of Us. Albert Schweitzer's refined philosophy was 'Reverence for Life'. This stuff is really subtle and tricky. It's going to take a long time to really sort this out...and get it right.

14Chakras: I agree with most everything you post. I still wonder why we need Michael the Archangel. You seem to be quite clear regarding the Divinity Within Humanity...but yet we seem to need Michael. Why?

[orthodoxymoron]

The largest part of love is responsibility. The largest part of responsibility is considering everything from all angles all the time. I generally don't practice what I preach...but I'm presently trying to make sense out of a world which has made very little sense to me throughout my life. Speculation and conspiracy theories are as necessary as scientific theories. Why is the scientific method not applied to all areas of life? The above questions were based on dot connecting. Unfortunately...I don't know which dots are stone...and which dots are shifting sand.

Are most of us surface Earth dwellers from Sirius A? Are Giza Intelligence and the Elites from Sirius B? Is Mars and Earth's Moon (and inner Earth) predominantly Sirius B? Is Venus predominantly Sirius A? Do the Draconians function through Sirius B humans and through PLF's? If Sirius A, B, and C were all under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights...what would the Dracs do(WWDD)? Would the Empire Strike Back? Perhaps we could teach them to Strike Bach instead!

[beren]

I think world went from spiritual slavery towards "freedom" little before industrial revolution and during it. The problem emerged that suddenly people were leaving all spirituality behind thinking of it as corruptive and evil (Vatican menace still seemed strong in those days) and luring towards science and new technologies. We today have made religion of science ,easily forgetting that science(our-human) is but a mere thrall of real divine works,the real divine science,mathematics,chemistry,physic,biology of Creator.
Trouble is that we came into stage where whatever can not be explained by official science,therefore it is not possible.
Many fell into that vision of reality.

As Paul stated in his writings to one early Christian congregation ( I think it was Corinthians) that we now know but a little of what is happening around and inside of us, in spiritual realm also. In the future all will be shown to humans, but we can not get that knowledge until we change and be close to divine, to Creator and his son.

So far we are stuck with this science we have so far. It looks like we have all but really we do not have anything.

[orthodoxymoron]

Most of the industrialization and technology has not been beneficial to humanity...and is now threatening to exterminate us. I think that some of the extreme scientific theories and technologies were obtained by dealing with the Devil aka Draconian Demons. A small part of humanity sold-out the rest of us. This is educated conjecture. We need to get in touch with the Christlike spiritual/ethical/responsible side of the human collective unconscious aka The Holy Spirit...before we can safely handle fancy science and technology. I'm not exactly sure if I got that last sentence exactly right...but I think I'm on the right track.

[beren]

I think you are right about that with holy spirit. This is the omnipresent force of God almighty. His name truly says all about creative potential of his, namely Yahweh- meaning I am who I am- meaning he can be who ever he please because of his spirit-holy spirit. He can be everywhere and in one single place... He can do oversight of all galaxies in the same time because of his spirit force. Where ever his spirit is ,there he is,because his spirit is part of him. Also it is an unmeasurable powerful force because he creates with it.
He can make a beautiful flower and destroy the star with it, depends on his will...
Christ said that all will be forgiven to men even if the person blasphemy Jesus, but blasphemy on the holy spirit will not be forgiven forever,either in the past,now or future. The one who is blaspheming on THE creating force in the universe is basically insulting creator`s ability to create all, basically spitting on his own soul who is created by that holy spirit. That is not tolerated by the creator himself.

In conclusion ,you are very right when state that until we fine tune with the holy spirit we can`t grow or step forward.

[RedeZra]

Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Jesus was always quoting scripture like any good rabi was he?

I read something very different. Interesting, same book, some people hear and see different things than others.

Who was Jesus constantly denouncing as false teachers and as sons of the devil and as serpents and vipers?

He was denouncing the very ones who quoted scripture over and over to him, the scribes and the pharisees.

When Jesus quoted scripture, it was usually in response to the fundamentalist who were quoting scripture to him trying to prove him wrong and trip him up based on outer rules and laws. He would quote scripture back such as:


10:30 I and [my] Father are one.
10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

lol see in red up there you pasted a passage where Jesus explicitly says the Scripture cannot be broken

you will have to research who accurately quotes the Scripture and who deliberately misquote the Scripture


I'm just saying the Bible is Valid

its the inspirational works and word of the Holy Spirit

foretelling the Descent of the Word made flesh

the Son of a New Covenant between the Father and Man


past are the days of general interference from the Father

come it is time for a special relation with the Son


Read about It in the Book and Act on It in Life

Reveal and Revive the Spirit within and be like Me for Ye are gods

[14 Chakras]

The bible is valid if it helps you connect to your divine spark within.

If it hinders you from doing so, because it makes you feel like a terrible sinner, or like God is outside of you rather than inside of you, then it is not a good book for you.

The quote you showcase RedeZra:

10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

the red part, here is how I see that:

Jesus is being challenged by those who are all about the "Holy Book" and calling it blasphemy what he is doing, to say that a man can claim his Godship, so as per usual, he responds back to them with their own weapon they are using against him, which is scripture. "Well, you say the scriptures can't be broken right? And it says here that you are all God's. So your point is?"

(Notice the "If" at the beginning of 10:35, he is using their own words and beliefs against them to prove a point rather than stating it as a fact, ie. "If you say the scriptures said this, and that they can't be broken... well then I guess you should put down those stones". As well he says as "Your law" in the line before, he doesn't say "Gods" law, or the "Father's" law, he says "your" law, meaning the Jewish law, the law of the scribes and pharisees)

This of course infuriates them, and this continues throughout his mission.

Those who know the bible best, who follow the outer laws, who have "God" vs. "Satan" all figured out, are the ones Jesus is continuously at odds with. He continually is at odds with these scribes and pharisees who are very similar to modern day fundamentalist Christian preachers.

Who do you think he is calling sons of vipers, serpents, sons of the devil throughout his mission? Those who don't study the bible or those who do?

He is constantly challenging those who claim they have a trademark on the Living Word because they have the book, the scribes and the pharisees, that's who he is at odds with throughout his mission and that's who hangs him on the cross.

Whatever interpretations religions have come to over the years, they are about as far from truth as you can get, polar opposites basically. Look at their fruits. The truth will make you free, not make you a prisoner, which is what the current interpretations of 'truth' of Jesus message have caused. Jesus came to free the people Now, not imprison them in another dogma.

I will say right now, Jesus did not embody in Palestine and among the Jews there because they were 'God's chosen people' and Israel had the most light. He embodied there because it was one of the darkest places in the world, and it is important to raise up the darkest to help heal the entire world. You can clearly see this by the fact they go ahead and put him on a cross for healing people and trying to free them from suffering by teaching them the truth that will set them free from a spiritual perspective. What other culture would have done that?

The infinite has sent messengers into all cultures. All the messages that major religions were founded on, to one degree or another, were brought forth by spiritual messengers of the infinite to help different cultures at different levels of consciousness come up higher into Oneness.

All religions are currently very corrupted by the dark forces, and the human egos, here on planet earth. They are meant to unify and unite under love, rather than divide through ego battles on whose religious beliefs are best and whose are worst.

All spiritual messengers were teaching the same thing: freedom from suffering. The only way to get there, and the only way to do the works that Jesus did, is to realize that you are the Living Christ, that all life is of the Buddha nature, to surrender the carnal mind / human ego and be reborn into the reality that all life if One. There is no other Way.