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Old 01-08-2009, 10:59 AM   #11
Josefine
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Default Re: The Open Secret - For No-One

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Originally Posted by milk and honey View Post
That's what the spiritual path is: a seeker (a soul) realising the enlightenment of spiritual Selfhood. Krishnamurti and Tony Parsons are mistaken if they believe there is no seeker, no path and no enlightenment. It takes a lot more than an unbidden experience of Oneness to prove that there is no path and no seeker. I think they're both jumping to the wrong conclusion about the journey. There is a goal and one must be fit for it.

The Christ presence may fill the soul with the realisation of Oneness to kickstart the road back and remind the soul of it's origin in spirit but to then assume from that experience that there is no seeker and no path is a fundamental misconception.
Good you have your binoculars, Czymra! I am jumping in. SPLASH

The term 'An Unbidden Experience of Oneness' is very derogatory term for what is our birthright. You are suggesting that there is a right and a wrong time to experience Oneness!

Time is an illusion, and whithout time there is no distance and no separation.

I have just listened to the first video with Tony Parsons, 'Longing for Wholeness'. It brings a deep sense of recognition.

It reminds me of many wonderful teachers along my way.

Krishamurti was one of them, a paradoxical teacher: He said you do not need a teacher. Just be, you find it all within. Yet he published book after book, lectured for many years and left a lot of video taped sessions.

We are in an illusionary reality, yet it is a perfect illusion that feels totally real. We are here to experience, and that is how it was planned.

In truth we never left Oneness. A gentle shift of perception is all it takes to be there - in the Oneness, in Love.

Christ is not enlightened. Enlightenment suggests a move from being unenlightened to becoming enlightened. Christ IS the Light and the Void, as one in the trinity of Father/Mother God of All-Oneness is. Christ was the first issue, the first to manifest created reality. He has incarnated many times. As 'sys adm' he has tended to subtle tasks of adjustment when the rest of us have become too lost in the illusion.

It is ok to become immersed. It is ok to become such good actors on a stage that we are 'lost' in the play.

It is also totally ok to remember that it is a play, and that we never left the larger Reality.

The only difference between Tony Parsons teachings and my deepest source is that in the Oneness of Love we still have individuality. We may not see alike, also in the larger reality. That is because there was a first birth in the Oneness, when we were given individual consciousness. It is like the drops in the ocean, totally immersed in the whole, yet being the molecules that comprise the quality of water.

Good teachers merely remind us: You Never Left.

Peace

It is also ok if you choose this

But this is a bit gross I'd rather go for this
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