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Old 10-13-2008, 07:55 AM   #1
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I've noticed a growing sense of paranoia in this forum.
Some people here seem determined to spread fear and anyone that takes an opposing view is called all sorts of names from a hater to a NWO agent.
Why cant people take on board that not everyone believes the same thing and has different opinions?
I saw someone saying that they didn't buy into the chem trail theory and was treated like a idiot for his/her views.
No one here knows the complete truth as to how things are.
Not everything that has been predicted on this forum will come to pass and some of us will find out we are wrong.
All I am asking is don't be blinkered into beleiving everything you read here or anywhere else, just keep an open mind.

Good luck everyone
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:13 AM   #2
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Hi Swanny,

Have to agree on few things here.
Personally i dont think there is such a thing as paranoia. It is how we choose to think about the knowledge we have, and use that information to take procusions.
As to the name calling this is not acceptable. Accept we have the same info and maybe different views. Accept when you are wrong gracefully. SO WHAT IF YOU FIND OUT YOUR WRONG. Depending on how we deal with these kinds of situations is what shapes us as a person.
I am not going to point fingers and judge, as this is your job to point your finger at yourself and judge yourself....

This is always the way...... those who have knowledge are always quick to judge others but never tend to look inwards at themself.


Profound truth, so difficult to perceive, difficult to understand, tranquilizing and sublime, is not to be gained by mere reasoning and is perceived only by the wise.

So wise up people!
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:19 AM   #3
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I dont know about paranoia, but there is a lot of information to read here, I tend to read a bit then go do something else for 5 mins to think it over, Maybe good advice for yourselves if you are being overwhelmed.

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Old 10-13-2008, 08:20 AM   #4
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Swanny, you are quite right and the agents of fear and paranoia play right into the illusion. They are control and restricted by their fear and this is the biggest tool the illuminati have in keeping the masses exactly where they want them, ignorant of what is the goal and who is responsible for bringing the goal to fruition. People we are being fed on a daily basis a drip, drip, drip of lies and disinformation that keeps you in a constant state of fear, anxiety and panic. In this state you will accept anything that will go some way to alleviating your fear, anxiety and panic. Including further loss of freedom and civil liberties. You cannot come from a place of anger, fear, anxiety or panic and expect things to be different, because this energy is the very same energy they feed off and keeps it all going. We must transcend our ideas of limitation, that we are mere minions’ that have no ability to change what we are seeing. We must learn about our true nature, and how we are all one conscious connected by the same energy that permeates everyone and everything. The people are the power and we must take back our power to effect positive change in the world.
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:21 AM   #5
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A lot of us will have different views on things and some of us are wrong, we need to try and educate each other and ourselves and help each other to see things from a different point of view.
Maybe then we will find out the truth.
We should be here to help, not fight each other
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:06 AM   #6
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I've noticed a growing sense of paranoia in this forum.
Some people here seem determined to spread fear and anyone that takes an opposing view is called all sorts of names from a hater to a NWO agent.
Why cant people take on board that not everyone believes the same thing and has different opinions?
I saw someone saying that they didn't buy into the chem trail theory and was treated like a idiot for his/her views.
No one here knows the complete truth as to how things are.
Not everything that has been predicted on this forum will come to pass and some of us will find out we are wrong.
All I am asking is don't be blinkered into beleiving everything you read here or anywhere else, just keep an open mind.

Good luck everyone
Fear is indeed a selling product and people lap it up...as we have been trained to for yrs and yrs...and yrs...
Nobody knows the complete truth. The fact is..the truth hasnt even been done yet...infinite possibilities possible..it just depends how far you want to look inside...
The time has come for everybody to stop being spoon-fed information and then deciding whether someone is a liar or not. There is a lot of info out there and you we must start to think for ourselves and take what resonates with us as what is said ''truth'' and what is not.
How can you ever believe anyone 100%...the only way you truly believe something is that if you know it to be real to you..you know it inside.
We must start believing and making decisions for ourselves as individuals, as a collective and as a species based on what is right...not what we are told is right.

there is no path to peace...peace is the path
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:38 AM   #7
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I've noticed a growing sense of paranoia in this forum.
Some people here seem determined to spread fear and anyone that takes an opposing view is called all sorts of names from a hater to a NWO agent.
Why cant people take on board that not everyone believes the same thing and has different opinions?
I saw someone saying that they didn't buy into the chem trail theory and was treated like a idiot for his/her views.
No one here knows the complete truth as to how things are.
Not everything that has been predicted on this forum will come to pass and some of us will find out we are wrong.
All I am asking is don't be blinkered into beleiving everything you read here or anywhere else, just keep an open mind.

Good luck everyone
Agree
Nothing is good or bad till thinking makes it so.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:44 AM   #8
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Fear is not a selling product, it is the product, and when you are a product of fear you are controlable, can be dictated to, you are a passive recipient of the otherwise unimaginable, unacceptable and believing we have no other options or choices in which to survive we accept as real what is presented by those who wish to control our minds and emotions. Fear keeps us in a constant state of paralysis, we feel helpless, hopeless and at this point we look for someone to come along and offer us a solution that will protect us and keep us safe and that solution is the very solution that will forever enslave us. We need to transcend our limiting beliefs and ideas about who we are and what we can do.

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate,
our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It's our light not our darkness that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves; who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented & fabulous?
Actually who are you not to be?
YOU are a child of the universe,
Your playing small does not serve the world,
There is nothing enlightening about shrinking, so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
WE are born to make manifest the glory of the universe that is within us.
It is not just in some of us, it is in everyone,
and as WE let OUR light shine we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same,
and as we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others.
~ Marianne Wilson ~
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:49 AM   #9
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“Sometimes paranoia's just having all the facts.” william.s.burroughs

im not too paranoid. strange times to live in right now to define what paranoia is. i mean the plan to exterminate the global population to around 500 million, documented and up in stone in georgia could tend to make on feel somewhat paranoid. im not worrying about it really. i have a better chance of survival than most because i have been handed the "how to book" before the game has started. like the computer games,even armed with the knowledge of how does not mean mistakes wont get made , only this time its real with no re start buttons.. have a nice day all

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Old 10-13-2008, 10:28 AM   #10
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Fear is not a selling product, it is the product, and when you are a product of fear you are controlable, can be dictated to, you are a passive recipient of the otherwise unimaginable, unacceptable and believing we have no other options or choices in which to survive we accept as real what is presented by those who wish to control our minds and emotions. Fear keeps us in a constant state of paralysis, we feel helpless, hopeless and at this point we look for someone to come along and offer us a solution that will protect us and keep us safe and that solution is the very solution that will forever enslave us. We need to transcend our limiting beliefs and ideas about who we are and what we can do.

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate,
our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It's our light not our darkness that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves; who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented & fabulous?
Actually who are you not to be?
YOU are a child of the universe,
Your playing small does not serve the world,
There is nothing enlightening about shrinking, so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
WE are born to make manifest the glory of the universe that is within us.
It is not just in some of us, it is in everyone,
and as WE let OUR light shine we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same,
and as we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others.
~ Marianne Wilson ~
Apologies...i agree with you it is indeed a product...not a selling product!

peace
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Old 10-13-2008, 04:29 PM   #11
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i have a better chance of survival than most because i have been handed the "how to book" before the game has started.
What is this book of which you speak?
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:13 PM   #12
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I've noticed a growing sense of paranoia in this forum.
Some people here seem determined to spread fear and anyone that takes an opposing view is called all sorts of names from a hater to a NWO agent.
Why cant people take on board that not everyone believes the same thing and has different opinions?...
Thank you Swanny to remember us this very important fact.

In it's evolution, Avalon project has grown up a challenge we all face everyday. I call it "Ego Feeding".

Ego feeder is a challenge that blocks the path of all, especially the ones we called "Masters", "Gurus", "Teachers", etc...

When not aware of it, it can grow up to proportion where lies hate, segregation and abnegation.

If I am inspired, I share my words, but stay humble...

Namaste, Steven
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:26 PM   #13
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We are privy to insider information here at Camelot/Avalon, right? We view this world of international intrigue through a fuzzy facade... through a glass, and darkly. As a natural born empath, I am forced to ask: What is the motivation here? Is a pattern possible to discern?

A positive message from an experienced statesman, like Robert O Dean's interview, is over a month old and its still not posted...

A confessed Illuminati doctor, clearly exhibiting histrionics, can have a dream about atomic monkeys flying out of his ass and it will be posted in ten minutes.

OK? So why?

[DISCLAIMER: WELCOME TO MY SEA OF CONJECTURE & HERSAY... MY HALL OF HORRORS & PARANOID THOUGHTFORMS... come on in, the waters great! (Apologies in advance to Bill & Kerry):]

Could it be that: Fear based messages mean more people "relying" on this site for apparent "insider information" pertinent to so called "survival." The more dire the message, the more scared people are... the more scared people are, the higher the ratings. The higher the ratings, the more "pledges" are received: Business/Mass Media & Communication 101? (Nah, B & K wouldn't "do me" like that.)

FAME: that fickle friend with the milk from the devil's teet that is OH so sweet:
Project Camelot/ Avalon has made two people into seemingly world recognized Rockstars... raised to stardom by a 'strange fruit' cocktail of fear and public service. However, has the direction here been benignly & innocently derailed by that Ol' timeless story of one becoming a victim of one's own success? COULD the truth be more insidious? (No Way... B & K run a whisleblower forum... they aren't "jiggy wit it" (you can tell by Bill's hat; it would be a furry red Kangol by now).

Whether done consciously or subconsciously, Camelot/Avalon has most certainately become a rogue misinformation machine... a viral superpower that is filtered to maximize fear quotients and designed to pay terror dividends. Ultimately, it is about the self destruction of lightworkers... the disempowering of those inherently drawn to these subjects.

What is FEAR? What noble actions have EVER been motivated by fear? The War on Terror? The Nazi concentration camps? McCain voters?

What is FEAR for FEAR's sake? A potent motivator for self preservation? Or is it a slippery slope of logic where one is forced to traverse the infinitesimally fine line betwixt SURVIVAL AND PREPAREDNESS.

Survival VS Preparedness: Given relatively recent revealed ancient paradigms of esoteric gnosis, is the average lightworker "a dwarfed & powerless pawn" or a "potential GIANT of Love and Light?" Are you stockpiling and moving because you are scared of "FAILING TO PREPARE?" Or, given the powers of Universal attraction, are these very actions, which are motivated by fear, really affecting the converse: "PREPARING TO FAIL?"

Mother Theresa displayed that she understood these powers when she was asked to go to an Vietnam Anti War Rally. She said (paraphrased): "I will never go to an anti war rally (it creates more war)... BUT, if you have a PEACE rally, I will be there."

There is a new game in town... if one wishes to play. The decision is within YOU. Fear can be fun... and may occupy your lonely days... but it ALWAYS leads to a darkening, deepening spiral of fear and alienation.

In my view, Camelot/Avalon has MORPHED into a sort of free energy device: It outputs the energy and frequency of fear... and, in turn, magnifies & creates fear... Except, whom can benefit from such foul frequencies? (could it be for the benefit of 'psychic vampires' that most suredly say: "We love Americans, They're delicious!"

Rejoice!
Spirit is NEVER born and NEVER dies. It is ALWAYS. It has been ALWAYS. It will be ALWAYS.

Take back your power!

Join the NEW game.

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Old 10-14-2008, 12:48 AM   #14
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...A positive message from an experienced statesman, like Robert O Dean's interview, is over a month old and its still not posted...

...A confessed Illuminati doctor, clearly exhibiting histrionics, can have a dream about atomic monkeys flying out of his ass and it will be posted in ten minutes...

...What is FEAR for FEAR's sake? A potent motivator for self preservation? Or is it a slippery slope of logic where one is forced to traverse the infinitesimally fine line betwixt SURVIVAL AND PREPAREDNESS...

...Survival VS Preparedness: Given relatively recent revealed ancient paradigms of esoteric gnosis, is the average lightworker "a dwarfed & powerless pawn" or a "potential GIANT of Love and Light?" Are you stockpiling and moving because you are scared of "FAILING TO PREPARE?" Or, given the powers of Universal attraction, are these very actions, which are motivated by fear, really affecting the converse: "PREPARING TO FAIL?"...
Your words are like a sword and your thoughts clear. I don't share all of them, but most of them.

I don't think there is an intention from the creators of Avalon to corrupt the genuine intention to create a mean for the "ground crew" to share Knowledge and information. Mass consciousness evolves by all contributors. In definitive, I think Avalon reflects well the World we live in... We have to build from there with that, just like Creators does.

But I certainly agree with all the rest my friend, and I am proud to see a true brother awaken and aware.

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:43 AM   #15
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I do not believe that Bill & Kerry are consciously up to any shennannigans... or any general, shennannigan related behavior, for that matter.

I work in Hollywood and I have seen some of the most stand up cats become plasticine party pirates when they garner a drop of fame. This is NOT the case with B & K.

AND, For the record, I used to HATE reading paranoid threads that conjured ill conceit towards B & K. I used to just chalk up the paranoia to inexperienced newbies being cluster f***ed by information in this fringe field .

Enter the Green Dragon... a few months after George Green's debut, it began to seem that B & K started to KNOW something that we weren't completely privy towards... but hey, maybe the doom and gloom "reality" was really REAL? (my dreams & intuitions sent me massive red flags on this... but, at the end of the day, I'm an info junkie. I stood strong against the insight of my higher self).

DEAN VS DEAGLE: the "F" word: FILTRATION began to "rear its ugly head" (apologies to Palin). Filtration was clearly observable on the round table O' Camelot. The media that was deemed "swiftly releasable" slowly began to emerge as being clearly plotted toward a negative vector.

The question is NOT: Filtration: Yes or no? The question is now "why?" This is my object of interest.

I am a self confessed cheap date. A few kind words from Bill & Kerry regarding the reason for their "Deagle over Dean" filtration and I'll be cooing like a school girl all over again.

But I already know what they will say: "A convergence of informant based data lead to Deagle's testimony being labeled a timely and topical "Hot Johnny" that preempted the elder statesman's input.


OK... but I have experience editing and compositing feature films. I have edited reams of reels... Digi and film stock... on Final Cut and on AVID; the post production value of their videos does NOT WARRANT A month long turnover... One night worth of editing at best... and thats being generous.

Bobby Dean... where are you, my Santa Claus of Sirius?

"The Bill Ultimatum:" Traversing the world in super spy muckracker fashion must be TAXING, to say the least. If I was Bill and Kerry, I would have been long lost and adrift eons ago in a sea of information and disinformation alike. I believe that B & K have historically navigated this treacherous tide of informants with great discernment.

But , recently, "filtration" IS clearly visible... as well as a definite downward trend. The rippled ramifications of which have seemingly turned many seekers on this forum into disempowered fear junkies... myself included. I always try and audit the info from a detached state, albeit, 'tis a mighty task given the endless parade of whistleblowers and their self imposed truncated testimonies. I am often left with the conclusion of "not enough information" which further leads me to the cliche of "a little information is a dangerous thing."

As of late, I am left (after my daily dose O' Avalon) a quivering mass of gelatinous ooze... cringing in the fetal position... in the dark of my basement... drinking Vodka through a curly straw. (Hey, Don't knock it till ya try it... some of my best friends are gelatinous... oh, never mind).

Bill once said something to the effect of (paraphrased) ["the informants here are like individual trees... take in all the specific stories and then step back and see the general shape of the forest"]

Well, I think the forest is ablaze... (and I'm not just saying that because L.A. is burning today).

As an empath I truley feel that Something is amiss.

I REALLY want to believe that it is not B & K's fault, but what is happening?

Maybe THEY are the victims of a controlled leak?... or perhaps they are under cohersion by "the 'artists' formerly known as" MAJ-OP.

BUT 'WHAT ABOUT BOB' (Dean)? The interview was in the can... and then? nada.

Man, this site is rotting my brain... or am I rotting my OWN brain by giving this site too much power when I know its bad for me?

Did I just answer all of my own questions? Doh!
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:05 AM   #16
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Accipiter Phi,

You are funny. I enjoyed your witty post. You keep workin that curly straw! Klonopin and Xanax help as well
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...Bobby Dean... where are you, my Santa Claus of Sirius?...

...As an empath I truly feel that Something is amiss...

...BUT 'WHAT ABOUT BOB' (Dean)? The interview was in the can... and then? nada...
Hehe, I truly like your post Accipiter, I second you about Bobby Dean, I want to know where this footage is heading... Maybe a thread about it, or a PM to B & K.

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