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wintersun 10-07-2008 01:37 PM

IMPORTANT! Deagle articles
 
Hi guys.. My first post here, but I've been reading regularly.

I actually found the articles David Wilcock spoke of in his last interview with PC. It appears that mr Deagle really has some serious issues.

Take a look at this:

http://www.thecoast.ca/Articles-i-20...yton_Park.html

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/***..._away_dr_w.php

http://www.prophecyclub.com/article_...ept-oct_02.htm

http://www.stephenkimber.com/blog.php?cid=118


I can't believe why Bill and Kerry even mention him at all! This guy compares himself with Jesus, Moses and who knows what. Unbelievable!

In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him.

sunflower 10-07-2008 02:19 PM

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The Coast article is very interesting and revealing. By the way, your second link (Phoenix) doesn't work.

I had watched part of the Grenada Conference video. I found it unsettling that Bill D. spoke so quickly, changed topics very rapidly and offered no references to back up his allegations. Plus everything now seems mixed up with channeling sauced in a biblical flavour, an area where serious discernment is very critical.

I choose to ignore his allegations!

wintersun 10-07-2008 02:35 PM

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Darn, the second link doesnt work cos it had the word B A S T A R D. Just type it instead of "******" (without the spaces between the letters) in the link address. It should work fine then :)

Orion11 10-07-2008 02:42 PM

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lol
wow.

wintersun 10-07-2008 02:56 PM

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Wow in deed. This guy is dangerous! Once his idiotic statements are proven wrong (like, tomorow? hehe :)), it would be very nice if Project Camelot would make an official statement that they DO NOT agree with him!

People are being frightened for no reason. This guy makes more mess than christianity in the age of inquisition. Which is probably where he would fit in best.

ladyluck 10-07-2008 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun (Post 42079)


I can't believe why Bill and Kerry even mention him at all! This guy compares himself with Jesus, Moses and who knows what. Unbelievable!

In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him.

I must admit that I agree with Wintersun!

discernment & research is always required.

Orion Morris 10-07-2008 03:35 PM

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I have been waiting for the 7th to pass for a while now and it looks like it is going to.

I hope all the time and energy people spent on scaring people into "preparing" for today is finally going to be directed in a positive direction. I am sick of hearing about the apocolypse.

I will run for it when the time comes.

Ampgod 10-07-2008 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun (Post 42079)
Hi guys.. My first post here, but I've been reading regularly.

I actually found the articles David Wilcock spoke of in his last interview with PC. It appears that mr Deagle really has some serious issues.

Take a look at this:

http://www.thecoast.ca/Articles-i-20...yton_Park.html

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/***..._away_dr_w.php

http://www.prophecyclub.com/article_...ept-oct_02.htm

http://www.stephenkimber.com/blog.php?cid=118


I can't believe why Bill and Kerry even mention him at all! This guy compares himself with Jesus, Moses and who knows what. Unbelievable!

In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him.


I think Bill & Kerry got drawn in by this man and are second guessing themselves on how they reacted to his information.
Bill and Kerry are doing what they do best here.
Giving the people the tools to work with. :thumb_yello:
I was glad to see this interview as it made many people look at how silly they were being. It should help to create some balance. :thumb_yello:

micjer 10-07-2008 03:42 PM

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Thanks for the leads wintersun. The 4th article is very informative. He reminds me of Ronald Wienland with the Church Of God and his end of world prophicies. I think David Wilcock has this guy figured out.

I don't trust anyone who seems to be in it for the money. (selling his goods)

:thumb_yello:

wintersun 10-07-2008 03:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 42242)
I think Bill & Kerry got drawn in by this man and are second guessing themselves on how they reacted to his information.
Bill and Kerry are doing what they do best here.
Giving the people the tools to work with. :thumb_yello:
I was glad to see this interview as it made many people look at how silly they were being. It should help to create some balance. :thumb_yello:

I agree, but the real fact is that they've given him WAY to much credit. And for what?? Does this man deserve it in any way?

I mean, I'm not afraid for my life, cos I'm pretty far away from the USA, but I can imagine all those people how they must feel right now, who actually believed him, or even CONSIDERED his stories to be true.

Reveling John 10-07-2008 03:46 PM

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Hold on.

Project Camelot is not a filter. Bill and Kerry are not professional skeptics, and they seem to try very hard not to lay their own opinion over the information that they record and distribute. If it is so clear that Mr. Deagle is not genuine, then they don't need to discredit him...you already have.

It's good that you guys figured this out through your own research. That's what Bill and Kerry have been prescribing for years.

Great Love,
John

JPS 10-07-2008 04:14 PM

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Baggywrinkle 10-07-2008 04:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun (Post 42079)

In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him.


They allow you an audience also, do they not?

micjer 10-07-2008 04:39 PM

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I don't blame Bill and Kerry. In fact I thank them for bringing all of the information to us. They wouldn't feel very good if something happened today and didn't act on Dr. Deagle's phone call. I feel also that Dr. Deagle has some very good information we should know about.

I just feel he pushes the doom and gloom too much like an evangelistic minister for my liking.

wintersun 10-07-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by micjer (Post 42318)
I don't blame Bill and Kerry. In fact I thank them for bringing all of the information to us. They wouldn't feel very good if something happened today and didn't act on Dr. Deagle's phone call. I feel also that Dr. Deagle has some very good information we should know about.

I just feel he pushes the doom and gloom too much like an evangelistic minister for my liking.

Yes. But how can we trust any information with the kind of history this guy has?

Baggywrinkle 10-07-2008 06:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun (Post 42366)
Yes. But how can we trust any information with the kind of history this guy has?

This is not about trust. Certainly you would not sell the
farm based on one data point. It is trends we
look for from a variety of sources.

Dr Deagle's comments stand by themselves and require
no comment or action because it is just one data point


Obviously, even doing trend analysis you can still be wrong

http://books.google.com/books?id=NFG...um=3&ct=result

and you try not to skew the trend line too far one way or another with an errant data point...

Just let him be and watch the data stream unfold. He will
be supported if he is correct.

You can even find use for dubious sources such as Sorcha Faal. As a mixed source
of truth and lies, they get their information from somewhere. The trick comes winnowing the truth
out from the lies. Using this technique in 2006 we bought into gold at 570.
It failed to go to the 2000 per ounce that was predicted at that time. Have we lost?

SpaceMonkey 10-07-2008 06:32 PM

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Check out this thread on ATS!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread398534/pg1
He's a very dodgy character indeed. I never believe people who claim to be profits because anyone can say that and not have to have anything to back it up. My guess is that he's taking advantage of what whistleblowers and researchers are saying is going to happen.

wintersun 10-07-2008 06:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey (Post 42498)
Check out this thread on ATS!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread398534/pg1
He's a very dodgy character indeed. I never believe people who claim to be profits because anyone can say that and not have to have anything to back it up. My guess is that he's taking advantage of what whistleblowers and researchers are saying is going to happen.

... and also trying to get even more publicity.

wintersun 10-07-2008 06:48 PM

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Baggywrinkle,

Ok, you have a point there, however, some "data points" are not even worth considering, cos they might do more damage then good right from the start! At least I'm glad that once this is over, he will finally loose his credibility. Unless he finds another way to justify himself again.

I always do take everything in consideration. And I already did that! Simply by studying what he is and what he has to say. AND what other resources talk about him.

Antaletriangle 10-07-2008 06:53 PM

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I'm being indifferent here.Bill Deagle did say that the seventh would be the start of the freefall-not that nuclear incidents would happen today just that financial crisis would deepen alot further which would lead to martial law soon for a small period then nuke activity then avian flu/some sort of plague.I agree it's fearmongering and we can do without it;just stay on the touchline and see how the match progresses with info. at this level.I tend to think that prophets and suchlike can't ever give an exact time but maybe able to provide a timeframe;these timeframes are what we all know deep inside anyway.

NINE 10-07-2008 06:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun (Post 42079)
Hi guys.. My first post here, but I've been reading regularly.

I actually found the articles David Wilcock spoke of in his last interview with PC. It appears that mr Deagle really has some serious issues.

Take a look at this:

http://www.thecoast.ca/Articles-i-20...yton_Park.html

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/***..._away_dr_w.php

http://www.prophecyclub.com/article_...ept-oct_02.htm

http://www.stephenkimber.com/blog.php?cid=118


I can't believe why Bill and Kerry even mention him at all! This guy compares himself with Jesus, Moses and who knows what. Unbelievable!

In my opinion, Project Camelot made the biggest mistake yet when they interviewed him.

The guy is deeply deeply deluded.

I feel sorry for him.

Hope he gets the help he needs.

wintersun 10-07-2008 07:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NINE (Post 42554)
The guy is deeply deeply deluded.

I feel sorry for him.

Hope he gets the help he needs.

:mfr_lol: :roftl:

jimbo83478 10-07-2008 07:02 PM

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I saw Deagle's Granada Forum speech a few months ago and he just seems way to ego-driven. I'm no psychologist, but everything he says seems to be presented in a manner as if he is trying to convince the audience that he is smarter than them; that he knows more than them. It is as if his incessant self-affirmations are over-compensation for something. As was stated above, he moves from topic to topic rather hastily and even in the Oct 4 interview he sounds rather disjointed and does not bother to explain or clarify certain information.

I understand that credibility is not defined by humility - and just because someone does not present information as clearly and concisely as a professor does not mean they are lying - but my gut reaction to Deagle is that he is an ego trip.

Ngai Te Rangi 10-07-2008 07:04 PM

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:mfr_lol: Just as i thought, I woke up in Australia to jack nothing which I guess is a good thing considering this bloke as Wilcock suspected, to be a talking blurb.

sunnyrap 10-07-2008 07:07 PM

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Bill & Kerry have found much of Deagle's information to be very accurate and backed up by multiple sources or they would not have given him the credence they did.

The other thing to consider is that he was very entrenched in the shadow government himself, then left it out of conscience. I've read one account after another of others in that situation coming under acute attack afterwards, even to their destruction/death. If you had a guy like this shouting your secret plans to the heavens and you had the technology to come after him...probably the most brilliant move would be to discredit him in the eyes of the audience he was trying to reach.

Taking what he says with a grain of salt without swallowing it whole and making yourself to stay in a stable place about it is just prudent. But utterly discrediting all he says without taking it under advisement and keeping a watchful eye might be very, very foolish, which is why B&K brought you the message, I expect.

Ampgod 10-07-2008 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wintersun (Post 42253)
I agree, but the real fact is that they've given him WAY to much credit. And for what?? Does this man deserve it in any way?

I mean, I'm not afraid for my life, cos I'm pretty far away from the USA, but I can imagine all those people how they must feel right now, who actually believed him, or even CONSIDERED his stories to be true.

The interview needed to be heard. They brought it.
They should just bring the info here with no bias and let the community have at it to see what comes of it. :thumb_yello:

*I don't doubt psi ops could have been aimed at him. It is very likely.

Peace,
Ampgod

Nethros 10-07-2008 08:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JPS (Post 42289)
I just read each of those articles linked above and did not come to the same conclusion regarding Mr. Deagle. Although there is certainly some doubt as to the validity of some of his information, you have to remember that those individuals that are really "out there" and relaying sensitive information are going to be intentionally discredited in a variety of ways in the media. It has been happening for decades in a variety of fields - don't believe everything you read on the internet. They hope that someone will do a web search for the person's name and pull up these types of articles and then immediately discredit the person in a forum such as this - it is all part of their plan. Kerry and Bill know what they are doing and who they are interviewing.

Agreed! Don't listen to rumours going around on the internet because most of it is disinfo. Obviously if this guy had anything important to say do you really think "they" would let him get away with it so easily, also the more wild someone's claims are, the more they are open to scepticism.

Just look at how someone talks, theyre emotions, and wow well they hold up their story. Watch that google video lecture he did. I'm sorry but I like Bill Deagle, I don't believe everything ANYONE says, but Deagle is no more right or wrong than David or anyone else. Just use your own judgement.

Nethros 10-07-2008 08:06 PM

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What happened to the video of Deagle they did over a week ago??

NINE 10-07-2008 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nethros (Post 42666)
What happened to the video of Deagle they did over a week ago??

Maybe it was predicted but didn't happen.

NINE.

Steve_G 10-07-2008 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NINE (Post 42886)
Maybe it was predicted but didn't happen.

NINE.

:roftl: That's harsh! Funny, but still harsh.

He gave a timeframe. I don't buy his vision either, I think he's the victim of a powerful and nasty psi-op, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility considering the events of 9/11, iron mountain etc. I'll watch and wait.

NINE 10-07-2008 10:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunrunner (Post 42922)
:roftl: That's harsh! Funny, but still harsh.

He gave a timeframe. I don't buy his vision either, I think he's the victim of a powerful and nasty psi-op, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility considering the events of 9/11, iron mountain etc. I'll watch and wait.

You're obviously right, but don't let it go to your head.:yikes:

NINE

Karen 10-07-2008 10:59 PM

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It was said at the end of the phone call with B&K (does anyone really listen to the whole enchilada anymore?) a prophecy that comes true is a failed prophecy. Prophecy says - "listen up humans, if you keep going down the same trail, THIS is what will happen. If you do not want this, turn off this path now!"

By the end that is what I understood - the reason for the presentation of it - was to make the prophecy fail.

And then - it could be a cabal op. They trained us so well in "public school" to totally disconnect from our full brain, to have a short attention span and to be far removed from our intuition and higher self. They count on us to only hear the scary part of the story, and to stay stuck there. Thank goodness they did not succeed in total programming of all of us.

Summary:
Prophecy is to show us why we need to immediately change course! A prophecy that DOES NOT come true is a successful prophecy.

wintersun 10-08-2008 12:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Heart of Gold (Post 42974)
It was said at the end of the phone call with B&K (does anyone really listen to the whole enchilada anymore?) a prophecy that comes true is a failed prophecy. Prophecy says - "listen up humans, if you keep going down the same trail, THIS is what will happen. If you do not want this, turn off this path now!"

By the end that is what I understood - the reason for the presentation of it - was to make the prophecy fail.

And then - it could be a cabal op. They trained us so well in "public school" to totally disconnect from our full brain, to have a short attention span and to be far removed from our intuition and higher self. They count on us to only hear the scary part of the story, and to stay stuck there. Thank goodness they did not succeed in total programming of all of us.

Summary:
Prophecy is to show us why we need to immediately change course! A prophecy that DOES NOT come true is a successful prophecy.



Yeah, but you gotta know that there are positive ETs, 7D guardians intervening and watching over, so that there WILL NOT be any drastic negative changes, at least not before the shift happens!

We are incredibly protected, so theres no need for worry. This humanity will end its days the without the major catastrophes of any kind.

Ashatav 10-08-2008 02:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnyrap (Post 42579)
Bill & Kerry have found much of Deagle's information to be very accurate and backed up by multiple sources or they would not have given him the credence they did.

I agree. Just the time will say if we all are evacuated by good aliens-spirits-angels or not. :mfr_lol:

Cheers!

wintersun 10-08-2008 02:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NINE (Post 42886)
Maybe it was predicted but didn't happen.

NINE.

Hahahahah :D

Finaly someone with more brutal sense of humor than me hahaha :D
:roftl::roftl::roftl:

GENIUS.

orionsbelt 10-08-2008 04:15 AM

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wintersun 10-08-2008 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by orionsbelt (Post 43385)
I highly doubt that Henry Deacon appreciated being at all 'associated' with the 'ex' doctor Deagle

I think there are some things that will soon be seeing the light of day. For now: you are on the right track.

orionsbelt 10-08-2008 04:31 AM

Ego and Greed - the history of an inhumanE race
 
This is not pointed at any specific person or group but pertains to a large group of people >

Big Egos everywhere.
At what cost?

It is very similar to the tactics that some religious leaders use. (SSDD)

- Tell the less intellectually gifted masses, of things beyond the norm.
- Get that ego boost feeling inside.
- Once the masses are attracted, collected it becomes harvesting time ($$$) if at all possible.

The innocent never knew what hit them. They do not have the mental capacity to even know that they have been taken advantage of.

dangerousdiva 10-08-2008 04:44 AM

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TRUST NO ONE.

PSI Ops Yes.

The power of the collective intention creates the outcome.

Deacon is a sad showboat trying to redeem himself within his own eyes.

Thoughts ARE Things.

His creation of fear fufills the dark end.

TRUST NO ONE.


III

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ampgod (Post 42588)
The interview needed to be heard. They brought it.
They should just bring the info here with no bias and let the community have at it to see what comes of it. :thumb_yello:

*I don't doubt psi ops could have been aimed at him. It is very likely.

Peace,
Ampgod


Christo888 10-08-2008 06:18 AM

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Yes, the visions are disturbing and making them available is risky but several others have had similar images which provide a synchronicity of confirmation. However, there are also programmed images transmitted into the ethers that many will pick up on as well. I would imagine that practicing tuning in yourself so you can begin to learn what is real and what is hype would begin to lessen the dependability upon those with gifts. The dependence upon those with gifts may be like depending on a "looking glass" and look where that got us.

I would not like to see any nuclear device detonated anywhere at anytime, however, Mr. Deagle described more of what seemed like Phoenix area not LA, and he also mentioned Chicago. Well, Mr. Obama stated his concern about suitcase nukes in the first presidential debate towards the end. Obama would correlate to Chicago and McCain would correlate to Phoenix, so maybe the visions are only symbolisms of presidential candidates campaign strategies. No more political hero's (Giuliani) from disasters! It is no secret that there were reports of 22 suitcase nukes lost by Russia many years ago but that the likelihood of maintaining them in working order was nill, but who really knows. There have been well over 200 nuclear test explosions by country's in the past (how many in Nevada's deserts alone?) and there have not been ET intervention for those blasts. David has a lot of great information but I find many conclusions drawn do not make much sense, like ET's using lightening to murder someone who has illuminati secrets or a figure eight crop circle about moon phases was created because he thought it, (I can't find any correlation to moon phases in his picture, looks more like a rythum cycle from a free energy device, which probably 50 inventors have picked up on at the same time 'they' made the crop circle) and even to suggest that what Mr. Deagle saw cannot be true because David would have been notified... but David, I hope you're right.

Who made a video that shows the beginning sequence to every war America ever fought in? Was American property attacked first? Did we retaliate after we were attacked first? Distractions, shock and awe events, can be activated at any time, comparitive to the 'if', 'then', 'else' programming, besides revealing a potential destructive event may actually change the course of it or even prevent it altogether. There are two sides of the game being played that keep it going and the goal is to seperate yourself from either one. Darkside Polarity says "If I can't have it you can't either" and Lightside Polarity says "I'm doing this for your benefit" Participating on either side keeps the opposite side in play.

Become creators in balance through self-empowerment instead. One Earth with 6.5+ billion Citizens of stewardship living in each owns independent reality.


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