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Yes BC!!! :thumb_yello: Earth... this part of the play, is the focus of 'to capture or not to capture, that is what is being watched by all.' How will WE undue the negative progress thus far? Tempered Defiance restores Sovereignty! Once enough of the group mind reaches 'up,' grasps understanding, then all contracts, all governments, all birth certificates, all social security numbers, all drivers license, all control documents of identification, etc., become null and void... There is no council or entity that was ever given permission to approve or disapprove the evolution of Divine Intelligence, therefore no permission is needed to exist, only guidelines of co-existence with fellow creator beings in cooperation through the best possible understanding of the 4 laws.:original: |
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Bravo ! (I can hear standing ovation from the unseen ones.)
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Question here- why do all the *Illumes* I know eat GMO and crappy food and die of cancer (when there are other alternatives out there for healing)?
The Illuminati is not as smart as people think- people give them too much power by making them seem powerful. Sure they control various factions of the planet but the one thing we as people can do is not eat their food and take their meds/pharma products. They are eating it themselves- that's how stupid they are. |
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Another thing I have noticed about them... they all practice occultism and think (I would assume) they are masters, but yet ignore one of the most basic off all principles when it comes to themselves... As above so below. They manipulate us... so... :tongue2: |
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I haven't been following this thread...even though I am a life-long vegetarian. I have come to the conclusion that it's better to focus on low impact exercise rather than focusing on food...unless there are allegies or other special cases. When one exercises...the mental health improves...and better dietary choices occur naturally. The one who benefits most from 'Dr. Bigshot's Miracle Diet' is Dr. Bigshot. Think about it.
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Cholesterol and Health — Functions and Foods Cholesterol is a health-promoting substance. It is a critical component of cell membranes, the precursor to all steroid hormones, a precursor to vitamin D, and the limiting factor that brain cells need to make connections with one another called synapses, making it essential to learning and memory. Some of the most nutritious foods like egg yolks and liver are also the foods richest in cholesterol. The anti-fat, anti-cholesterol campaign has demonized these foods for decades without any evidence they cause disease. To the contrary, they promote health. Cholesterol may even be an essential nutrient for at least the one percent of the population that has a genetic defect preventing efficient cholesterol synthesis. To learn more about the roles cholesterol plays in the body and the health benefits of cholesterol-rich foods, select an article from the menu on the left. http://www.cholesterol-and-health.co...nd-health.html |
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I haven’t eaten a piece of meat in years. My weight remained the same and I feel great. The reasons I stopped was because I felted the negative energy in the food. Maybe it’s because I haven’t (knowingly) killed a bug, rodent or any specie in over a decade. I’m the type that will free trapped mice and hurry insects along instead of swatting them.
Many people don’t look at the way these beings are slaughter and than have their grave remains showcased in the supermarket. They have no idea of the brutal, negative energies they are consuming. That energy haves to go somewhere. Today, I can’t see me eating something that clearly shows it doesn’t want to be eaten. Some say plants have feelings too, and that may very well be true….but I don’t see or feel it. There are natural exchanges between animals and plants… Carbon for Oxygen, waste for sustenance. I just don’t see the same with red blooded animals eating other red blooded animals. When it is said “live off of the Earth”…I’m thinking vegetation. I once had this powerful dream or a vision of the ancient past history of Earth. I saw all living species on this planet eating veggies, haha. Something catastrophic happened and much of the vegetation has gone extinct and this could have cause famine and the need to eat other species (lowering the planets vibration). When ever I look at these National Geoghaphic shows about the deep blue seas…the seas look barren / desolate. It looks like something big is missing…could it be the vegetation? I don’t push these beliefs of mine on anyone because I know how Bar.B.Q’s smell. I know how it was waking up to the smell of beef sausages and eggs, and walking by a fried chicken joint. Something just told me to stop so I did and I’m glad for it. My life is better and I feel much more in tune with nature. Again, I'm not trying to sway anyone just dropping my 2 cents. just |
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Something also is happening to my cat. he first started with eating yoghurt and butter. now he added fresh mozzarella to his menu. I can't eat mozzarella or spread butter on bread without him coming to me and wanting some. today he had his regular cat food in the bowl but wanted mozzarella....:original:
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Thank you for highlighting Stewart's warning to us, based on his experience, regarding the issue of the New Age movement. I feel that some members on this forum, while stating that they are "awake and aware," demonstrate in their posts that, to the contrary, they are just as programmed by New Age propaganda as we all were programmed growing up by television, movies, and mainstream news. |
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Hi Guys,
This is my first post on this forum though I'm using the same Avatar and name as I do on other forums. It's very nice to be here, I like the vibe :) I used to be a complete vegetarian but then started feeling bad for the plants! We have to eat/kill things to live, it's just the way it is. I'll eat some meat now, mostly fish and shellfish and some chicken. Someone mentioned Magnesium, it's absolutely essential for good heart health. For a time I was developing high blood pressure and palpatations; starting taking magnesium supplements and consuming a lot of potassium rich foods (it'd hard to get enough potassium) and my problems seem to have gone away! LVX, Frater PS Vegetarian an Illuminati Deception? Naaa, one can tell meat eating is course by instinct. I think our physical bodies are evolving in that direction. |
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Research has shown that vegetarians are 50 percent less likely to develop heart disease, and they have 40 percent of the cancer rate of meat-eaters.3,4 Plus, meat-eaters are nine times more likely to be obese than vegans are.5
The consumption of meat, eggs, and dairy products has also been strongly linked to osteoporosis, Alzheimer's, asthma, and male impotence. Scientists have also found that vegetarians have stronger immune systems than their meat-eating friends; this means that they are less susceptible to everyday illnesses like the flu.7 Vegetarians and vegans live, on average, six to 10 years longer than meat-eaters.8 http://www.goveg.com/healthConcerns.asp |
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Oh heres a veggie band working for the iiluminati.
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Plants give off oxygen and live food in exchange for the animal/human carbon and waste. It’s even mentioned in some of the scriptures “Live off of the Earth”. I don’t know of any animal that willingly allows you to consume them. Could you imagine walking with your child, and from nowhere a creature comes and swipes the youngling, package the child body parts and sell them? It’s clear (to my senses) no animal wants to be eaten. And I haven’t witnessed any plant-matter being objective. When it lets me know then I will know…
This planet has lost most of its vegetation and as a result the famine brought about cannibalism and meat eating (imo). It’s savagery and clearly shows violations of rights and free will. The consumption of this death, fear, and toxins that’s released into the animal during the traumatic experience of death…is now a part of you (which could be a reason why the world is in such a chaotic state). This on going practice has probably lowered the vibrations of the species therefore forces the Earth to fights back… I once knew how it felt to eat lamb chops, chicken wings, and steaks (never ate pork thou), I believe I ate a few farms in my teen years alone...I’m also familiar to the alluring smells of morning sausages and Bar B Q’s. It wasn’t easy in the beginning but trust me when I say “I am immensely glad for it”. I’m more consciously aware, feel and look healthy and have a tighter connection to nature. So much so that unusual animals (birds, squirrels, strays, insects, etc) randomly come around me without fear, the connection to other life forces is stronger. You are what you eat…whether it is death or life. I know people who were raised on meatless diets since their child hood, they seem like healthy adults to me…strong, vibrant, and a couple living out happy retirements. My weight is a consistent 190 pounds on a 6foot1 frame…the same to when I last ate meat years ago. The weight loss theory only applies to those that do not properly substitute their sustenance intake…I see no clear justification for eating another specie that clearly shows you it’s against it. imho, I think most people put more feelings into their taste buds then they put into their hearts…with that said, spectacular meatless dishes are definitely on the rise If taking life to sustain mines is the true way to live on this planet…then that’s just another sign telling me that I’m living on the wrong planet/in the wrong times… Peace --- The new born probably cries because it realizes it came to hell… |
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We pray on Sundays that we may have light
To guide our footsteps on the path we tread. We are sick of war, we don't want to fight, And yet we gorge ourselves upon the dead. Like carrion crows we live and feed on meat, Regardless of the suffering and pain We cause by doing so. In this way we treat Defenseless animals for sport or gain. How can we hope in this world to attain The peace we say we are anxious for? We pray for it on the catacombs of the slain While outraging the moral law. Thus cruelty begets its offspring—war! George Bernard Shaw |
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Firstly Stewart Swerdlow is not a health professional by any means so I would not take his advice to heart lol.
Secondly I do agree with Stewart about the New Age movement being hi-jacked by the the PTW.. but hello.... Stewart himself is part of the New Age movement so he sort of put his foot in his mouth. Which is good because I have never trusted him for some reason, so for me this little article of his also put the nails in his coffin when it comes to credibility. Stewart Swerdlow = Steward Sword-Low = Words Low - SS :sleep_1: All Meat eaters have CLAWS and JAW STRUCTURES with TEETH made for TEARING and RIPPING. We have TEETH and JAWS similar to the EQUIDAE family, made for GRINDING not TEARING. And... where are our CLAWS? I can write up a whole paragraph about how INTESTINES are extremely different when comparing HERBIVORES with FLESH EATERS. In short we have the INTESTINES of HERBIVORES. So did the ILLUMINATI design our BODIES too? :lmfao: I find the idea laughable that vegetarianism is an Illuminati deception. If the PTW wanted to convert us to vegetarianism don't you think we would be hearing of it in many more places besides the so called New Age movement?:lmao: Although it should be pointed out that the MAINSTREAM vegetarian diet, that SOY based thing, is very harmful to the body as its filled with GMO and who knows what else... At the end of the day its all about respecting LIFE. You can go ahead and compare a CARROT to a CHI-CKEN if you want, but it doesn't take much to see the different levels of AWARENESS between the two... especially at the time of DEATH... as the latter FIGHTS for LIFE :thumbdown: I've got nothing against Dead Flesh Eaters though, to each his own, and I hope you enjoy that T-OX-IN your body. http://www.northshoreradiohawaii.com/zodiac/ox.png :wub2: |
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Aroundthetable, the list left out Adolf Hitler though I suspect he is not considered nice dinner company :lol3:
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Grocery store meat is often full of bad stuff, because of what the animals are fed and also what they are preserved and packaged with. I have a contract with a company which sources local meats (hand raised on an actual farm near here) and they are air frozen and shrink wrapped. Best meat I've ever tasted.
Meat has very little vitamins and such (except iron which is a mineral ofcourse). People who eat more veggies live longer because they get those vitamins I would bet. I bet that a person who ate even portions of meat/veg would live longer than the veggie only crowd. The reason such statistics are out there is because people who are vegetarians usually choose to do so for health reasons, and are a mnority. Its likely they get more exercise and probably take generally better care of themselves. I bet if you did a study on the exercise and other (i.e. smoking drinking etc) habits of meat eaters vs. vegetarians you would see more of the meat folks being unhealthy in a given sample. Also without wsupplements a veggie is gonna be Iron Deficient. Anyhow, meat rules. |
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I think any life style can become rather cult like. Vagan is no different. Instead of feeling bad for the animals or plants we eat lets just look at some simple clinical facts: AKA our TEETH!!!!
What do our teeth look like? We have flat long teeth in front, a few k9 like teeth to the side and molars in the back. How sharp are our teeth? We can cut our own tongue if we bite really hard. But not sharp enough to rip raw meat from bone. How do we prepare our meat? it's cooked. So, our teeth would indicate a variety of food types. Mainly vegetables, fruits roots, berries and bugs. Sea foods can also be eaten raw and by hand. We are not designed to eat heavy large animals without the aid of tools and fire. But we can consume flesh if need be. What else do we eat that isn't on e normal menu if we had to live wild? cereal. We do not eat grass, leaves and other rough vegetables. We are a gathering type species. We can easily live off bugs, roots and berries. We can also adapt to grains and meats. There is a conspiracy but not about what you eat but rather who controls the food supply. how many people gather their own food? Grown their own food? Hunt their own meat? Fish? Grind their own grains? 2% of the population supply the food for 98%. That is where the conspiracy lies. While we sit and wonder which is better, Veggie burger or Hamburger...both come from the same providers. The real threat is in supply lines, lack of small family farming and massive supermarkets which have not only robbed a generation of critical skills but also stuffed us full of MSG, food coloring and other chemicals. Does eating more veggies sprayed with chemicals any healthier than eating meat injected with chemicals? I really do see the difference. |
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Did you notice how I kept my opinions on the matter out of the latest vegan thread?
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How many animals die when a field is plowed for celery?
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0 in my case. A garden does not require a plow. That's only for mass 'farming' when the control of the food supply is controlled by the few to feed the many.
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This is actually a controversy. There are some statistics that say 60% of the global population is vegetarian. Certainly in North America vegetarians are the minority though, but there are many more people and places then whats in NA.
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"Although milk is not toxic to cats, it may have adverse effects. Simply put, adult cats fed a nutritious diet don't need milk, and many cats are lactose-intolerant, which means that the lactose in milk and milk products produces stomach upset, cramps, and gassiness. If your cat loves milk, and begs for it, a small amount of cream may be okay, two or three times a week. (The more fat in the milk, the less lactose.) Another compromise is CatSip, a product made from skim milk with an enzyme added that helps the digestion of lactose. Catsip is available in supermarkets such as Safeway, Albertson's and A&P, as well as pet products chains, such as PetSmart and Petco." |
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i have read only the first page and it was enough for me. I am on the same page of the book as Phtha is.
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I was driving down the 101 freeway today and seeing a cop car in my rear-view, I had to change over to the "Avalonites Only" lane. After merging to the left, I saw the car in front of me had a bumper sticker that read: "STOP ARGUMENTIVE VEGETARIAN THREADS - EAT YOURSELF" Paul |
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i have read this thread, and dont believe for a minute that vegetarianism is linked to any illuminati deception, but an interesting hypothosis no less.
i do not eat meat/fish, our folks tried us with various meat products when we were toddlers, both my sister and i refused. so have been a veggy from the word go, however my children do eat white meat and fish, it is their choice so i am happy to cook meat for them. i am not squimish when it comes to killing and preping animals for consumption.......just do not like the texture of it in my mouth. i agree many veggy folk have some deficancy in nutients, but as long as one eats a well rounded and balenced diet then the over all health benifits of being a veggy is extreamly positive. i never worry about my weight, dont even own scales, and always listen to what my body is needing in tearms of nutients, manage to fight bugs using plants, herbs and spices. the only thing i find is that we eat a huge amount of food everyday, have to eat every couple of hours or so, but its healthy, organic, balenced and homemade. m x |
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Yeah this subject is the ultimate agitation on most any site on the net. Generates an argument whenever it comes up... So, whatever, here are a couple thoughts,
It seems funny that people would point to deficiencies as a reason to eat meat. Because most the meat eaters I see look deficient as well. Notice that there are two type of "diets", exclusionary and inclusionary. Focusing on the first is often required for people to leave behind unhealthy habits. Focusing conversations on exclusion can tend towards arguing though. Focusing on the inclusionary diets is more informative. For instance I am interested in eating foods high in RNA (which can be done with or without meat). "There is no energy crisis, food crisis or environmental crisis. There is only a crisis of ignorance." --- R. Buckminster Fuller To be relevant, "There is no nutritional crisis. There is only a crisis of ignorance." |
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Here is a poem that was one of a couple of things that made me quit eating pigs and cows although the poem is about consuming horses. I still have to learn to be complete vegetarian since I do eat chicken once in a while and fish.
The Last Breath - Alexandra Dolbenev My owner loved me right to death, He said he would until my last breath, So why am I driven far away? Did I do something wrong? Why can’t I stay, The truck is crowded with many of me, They don’t look too happy, I thought we were free? I can smell the stench of fatality, The men say, “But hey, this is reality,” What are they doing, where are we going? Will there be trees and winds a blowing? The horses ears are back in fright, They try to escape, a horrid sight, Their hoofs get caught inside the wall, Their legs break off, their blood will fall, Please Oh what is going on? Will I reach another dawn? The truck drives up with many dead, Where they await, To be shocked in the head, HELP! HELP! Doesn’t anybody care, I thought somebody loved me, they would shoo away the scare! AHHH…they shocked me, I can’t move or even see, The men stare cruelly into my eyes, “It won’t hurt,” These are all lies, A rope pulls me upside down, In these chains I am bound, Why do they do this, what have I done wrong? Why can’t I live, any long? My last breath, Before my death, I remember the good times in the pasture, This all happened, no more then last year, She said she loved me, no matter how old, I can never believe what I was told, “You’ll soon be free, there is no pain,” They don’t know it, they can’t feel it, they’re insane, Want me for food? Will I taste good? I hope you choke on my meat, And feel the pain of my last heart beat, Why do they eat us, why not themselves? I bet you they know that we’re going through hell, So next time you eat us or kill us, look at the skies, Our families are lost, because of the lies, Can’t you see them or feel their cries? How does it feel to be lost from your dears, Does it bring memories does it bring tears? The life of a horse, is worthwhile the life, To finish it up oh why is there strife? Don’t let it happen, and I’ll tell you how, Sign a petition and help us NOW! |
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I can't believe people thought even for a sec that animals exist to be eaten. The illuminati are not trying to convince us to eat vegtables, if it were so... we wouldn't have all those comercials on TV about meat based food. This is not the conspiracy. They want us to eat meat... and one of the reasons is that it lowers our vibrational frequency. |
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Alan Watt talked about vegetarianism in relation to the New World Order agenda in his January 7, 2010 radio talk. From the transcript:
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