Important Earthquake advice

Avid · 11-21-2008, 03:15 PM

http://www.amerrescue.org/
The last thing you should do is 'Duck and Cover' apparently.
This is the rescue site, and contradicts the drill advice given to millions recently.
"Duck and Cover is outdated and should not be used. Standing in doorways during an earthquake is dangerous.
The most experienced rescue organization in the world, American Rescue Team International of San Francisco, California and its founder, Doug Copp, explain in detail new emergency preparedness procedures that can save lives during disasters. Youll see actual footage of earthquake rescues, building collapse demonstration and in general, a new and effective way of preparing for earthquakes and natural or man-made disasters. "
Why is this logical advice not being taken on board by PTB/FEMA etc?

The web bots mentioned coming earthquakes in early December.
See http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm Friday 21st November.
Please take note.

addalight · 11-21-2008, 03:47 PM

Thanks for the very important info.
Of note also: Jim Berkland, a retired geologist, was on Coast to Coast last night and his window of time for a major quake is 12/10 to 12/17. He has people tracking strange animal behavior and lost pets. This seems to preceed earthquakes.

Avid · 11-21-2008, 03:54 PM

I've done some more research into Doug Copp, and it seems he has been challenged about his guidance.
What he says seems to make sense though....

SIR GALAHAD · 11-21-2008, 04:08 PM

1st december i was told mother earth is going to shake .

alyscat · 11-21-2008, 04:20 PM

Yeah, Michael Mandeville also has written to be on the alert for the fully moon syzygy between Dec 12-14 in terms of earthquake activity.

alys

dayzero · 11-21-2008, 05:11 PM

sir Galahad - is it going to shake here too?

SIR GALAHAD · 11-21-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dayzero

sir Galahad - is it going to shake here too?

oh yes .

KassandraLoves · 11-22-2008, 01:04 AM

thank you! Great info for the Pacific Northwest region...Ive been in my fair share of quakes and its a scary situation...this makes it a bit better...THANKS!!!

Namaste!

Myra · 11-22-2008, 01:25 AM

"Duck and Cover" is the old Atom Bomb drill they used to teach us in Elementary School. Wouldn't work too well if the Bomb dropped either!

Humble Janitor · 11-22-2008, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avid

http://www.amerrescue.org/
The last thing you should do is 'Duck and Cover' apparently.
This is the rescue site, and contradicts the drill advice given to millions recently.
"Duck and Cover is outdated and should not be used. Standing in doorways during an earthquake is dangerous.
The most experienced rescue organization in the world, American Rescue Team International of San Francisco, California and its founder, Doug Copp, explain in detail new emergency preparedness procedures that can save lives during disasters. Youll see actual footage of earthquake rescues, building collapse demonstration and in general, a new and effective way of preparing for earthquakes and natural or man-made disasters. "
Why is this logical advice not being taken on board by PTB/FEMA etc?

The web bots mentioned coming earthquakes in early December.
See http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm Friday 21st November.
Please take note.

No transcript? Booooooo!

Dude, there are people on here who cannot solely rely on un-subtitled youtube videos (unlike the rest of you).

Avid · 11-23-2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

No transcript? Booooooo!

Dude, there are people on here who cannot solely rely on un-subtitled youtube videos (unlike the rest of you).

Apologies

I read the great list of stuff to find out more - the video was just a trailer. The real info was all down the page. Easy!

11-23-2008, 02:21 PM

Q: What are the 15 safest places to be in an earthquake? (The places most people survive.)

A: 1) Outside in the middle of a field where nothing can fall on top of you.
2) Outside in the middle of the street where falling glass can't reach you.
3) On a seismic resistant platform such as a boat.
4) On the top floor of a wooden building.
5) On the top floor of a concrete building
6) in the space between 2 large objects (between twin beds, between 2 cars, between 2 rows of desks).
7) Next to an office bank vault or stack of paper.
8) Next to a squashed vehicle
9) At the foot of a bed
10) In front of a hotel lobby counter or bar counter.
11) In front of a sofa.
12) Next to Kitchen Cabinets
13) Next to a big bulky object like a piece of machinery, fridge, stove.
14) Next to a large carrying beam
15) In the subterranean exterior perimeter of a building.

I wonder if the old advice of being in a bathtub with a mattress on top of you still applies?

alyscat · 11-23-2008, 03:57 PM

Probably - most tubs have or had a metal body, covered in porcelain. The metal would extend higher than you, and would provide a "vault" (the triangle of life, as he calls it) - the mattress would protect you further from anything dropping from above. Of course, if you're in a cheap plastic tub (like an RV tub) nothing above applies.
Alys

11-21-2008, 03:15 PM	#1
Avid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 660	Important Earthquake advice http://www.amerrescue.org/ The last thing you should do is 'Duck and Cover' apparently. This is the rescue site, and contradicts the drill advice given to millions recently. "Duck and Cover is outdated and should not be used. Standing in doorways during an earthquake is dangerous. The most experienced rescue organization in the world, American Rescue Team International of San Francisco, California and its founder, Doug Copp, explain in detail new emergency preparedness procedures that can save lives during disasters. Youll see actual footage of earthquake rescues, building collapse demonstration and in general, a new and effective way of preparing for earthquakes and natural or man-made disasters. " Why is this logical advice not being taken on board by PTB/FEMA etc? The web bots mentioned coming earthquakes in early December. See http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm Friday 21st November. Please take note.

11-21-2008, 03:47 PM	#2
addalight Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 80	Re: Important Earthquake advice Thanks for the very important info. Of note also: Jim Berkland, a retired geologist, was on Coast to Coast last night and his window of time for a major quake is 12/10 to 12/17. He has people tracking strange animal behavior and lost pets. This seems to preceed earthquakes.

11-21-2008, 03:54 PM	#3
Avid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 660	Re: Important Earthquake advice I've done some more research into Doug Copp, and it seems he has been challenged about his guidance. What he says seems to make sense though....

11-21-2008, 04:08 PM	#4
SIR GALAHAD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: uk Posts: 70	Re: Important Earthquake advice 1st december i was told mother earth is going to shake .

11-21-2008, 04:20 PM	#5
alyscat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Washington state Posts: 743	Re: Important Earthquake advice Yeah, Michael Mandeville also has written to be on the alert for the fully moon syzygy between Dec 12-14 in terms of earthquake activity. alys

11-21-2008, 05:11 PM	#6
dayzero Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern England Posts: 458	Re: Important Earthquake advice sir Galahad - is it going to shake here too?

11-22-2008, 01:04 AM	#8
KassandraLoves Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: WA, USA Posts: 187	Re: Important Earthquake advice thank you! Great info for the Pacific Northwest region...Ive been in my fair share of quakes and its a scary situation...this makes it a bit better...THANKS!!! Namaste!

11-22-2008, 01:25 AM	#9
Myra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So Cal Coast USA Posts: 340	Re: Important Earthquake advice "Duck and Cover" is the old Atom Bomb drill they used to teach us in Elementary School. Wouldn't work too well if the Bomb dropped either!

11-23-2008, 02:21 PM	#12
sleepingnomore Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Important Earthquake advice Q: What are the 15 safest places to be in an earthquake? (The places most people survive.) A: 1) Outside in the middle of a field where nothing can fall on top of you. 2) Outside in the middle of the street where falling glass can't reach you. 3) On a seismic resistant platform such as a boat. 4) On the top floor of a wooden building. 5) On the top floor of a concrete building 6) in the space between 2 large objects (between twin beds, between 2 cars, between 2 rows of desks). 7) Next to an office bank vault or stack of paper. 8) Next to a squashed vehicle 9) At the foot of a bed 10) In front of a hotel lobby counter or bar counter. 11) In front of a sofa. 12) Next to Kitchen Cabinets 13) Next to a big bulky object like a piece of machinery, fridge, stove. 14) Next to a large carrying beam 15) In the subterranean exterior perimeter of a building. I wonder if the old advice of being in a bathtub with a mattress on top of you still applies?

11-23-2008, 03:57 PM	#13
alyscat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Washington state Posts: 743	Re: Important Earthquake advice Probably - most tubs have or had a metal body, covered in porcelain. The metal would extend higher than you, and would provide a "vault" (the triangle of life, as he calls it) - the mattress would protect you further from anything dropping from above. Of course, if you're in a cheap plastic tub (like an RV tub) nothing above applies. Alys