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Thats a relief. I get confused by all that. Feelinf more and more its not about a search fo knowledge but more about the experience itself. Create your own experience. But is that just what we do? No real purpose except to experience? |
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there is a god, first cause, source, isness, call it what you will and we are all but small portions of it experiencing itself as a duality (positive and negative) the realization and internal recognition of that alone is being awake the intent to move more towards unity and away from duality is activation experience it how you will, it is your decision (positive and negative are subjective) don't listen to anyone else's inner voice to the point that you cant hear your own we are all dreaming each others dream peace |
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Great question,
To me it has been realizing some of my personal experiences have been something real rather than my imagination. -contact when I was a child (This has lead to a life of self medicating to a certain degree) -experience of precognition For years I put these experiences off as brain farts and unexplainabley real dreams, especialy the contact thing. The only "dream" that is vivid in my mind for over 20+ years, until I came to the conclusion that this was no dream. To be honest this is the first I have come forward in these forums or anywhere else (except 2 family members) with this info, except for a PM to Bill and Kary. So yea now I'm putting it out there and I don't take comfort in releasing this info, for more than one reason. Hell I'll talk about the precognition incident any day, but the contact subject brings me great discomfort. So without going into further details, the awakening for me has been helping me and hurting me. Though having the balls to come forward publicaly so to speak has probably helped, we shall see. :onders clicking "submit reply button":: |
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Many have never slept. I know part of my mind was always awake although I took a good long nap in the middle part of my life. For me the fun stuff began eight years ago, and involved great leaps in perception and intuition, with what feels like huge streams of data pouring into my brain almost nonstop. For me it truly began when I realized I was living the life I was born for and trained and mentored for. That's when everything started to make sense. |
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:-) Shine on my friend. Your light is indeed good and bright! A.. |
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Good Proposition
Part 1 Resonated with Layer '#13', yet it is wished someone can explain more about the 'soul' and 'Oneness' idea for the fact which sheerly transcends earthling commonalities and bewilder the seeked : "To what end? Is this experience the result of the "Source" enjoying itself or maybe figuring itself out?". The whip is raised, where would it descend? Part 2 From the holographic reality point of view, would it be a linguistic phenomenon that simple? Awakening<>Knowing Understanding is the state one experience Experiencing is what one internalizing Communicating through dynamic processing awakening... is moment to moment, an act upon Nominalization into verbalization Put it a sample: n. knowledge\ Information Internalized verbalizing (become knowing): > What Information do I know (Ascertain Scope) > How do I know (Manage Risks ) > Why do I know (Understand Implication) > When do I know (dealing with Boundary) > Where do I know (Parse the context ) If so, Hither and thither, Are we believing or Knowing? or at least at which level? Being abstract is not knowing |
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Awakening is asking the question...that's it, that's all there is. After that it's a matter of gathing the information that is your truth to your awakening on your path.
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The truth is people will generally give you some answer that theyve read in a book because they dont know.
If the matrix hadnt been written people wouldnt use the term so much or talk about rabbit holes either. There isnt anyone who can say with complete honesty whether anything will happen in 2012 or not. Personally I feel that there is something to it but that's the extent of it - a feeling. The mayan texts were either destroyed or spirited away so there might be another codex starting from 2013 for all we know. Being awake doesnt mean sitting in the net 14 hours a day or saying namaste every two seconds. Enjoy your life, treat others with respect, fight for whats right and enjoy the moment too. |
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Awakening is a two-fold issue I believe: 1) Realizing first that we are nothing more than the pre-disposed thoughts we grew up with and learning to reject those ideas by finding our own "truth" as Plato said. Defining truth for ourselves sets us free from the fear that normally rules us and enables us to reach our full potential as spiritual beings; and 2) Accepting the fact that evil does exist no matter how distasteful and unbelievable the truth may be, and that we, as individuals, have a spiritual responsibility to reject evil in all of its forms.
I have been chanting a "mantra" since age 7: "The only thing to fear is fear itself." I think when we act from our own righteous truths, we reject "fear" of the unknown (loss of job, acceptance, and even life) and begin to act out of "love" for ourselves and others. We accept responsibility for ourselves and our actions and quit blaming others for the mess we have made of the world. We work on actual solutions to problems rather than concentrate on sniveling about the cruel cruel world all the time. We accept our losses with grace and acknowledge our victories as universal truths whose time have come. We do the best we can every waking second and we live our moments in "real" time. We quit seeing the world as we would like it to be and we start working hard to create a better reality for ourselves and others. |
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The more we learn, the more we learn how little we know!
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An individual cannot really lie to himself on that question. He can feel convinced, work at being convinced, but ultimately, he knows if he really knows or not. And you don't know something because someone told you. Knowing, really knowing, is being. And he who knows needs no proof to support what he knows, and what he knows is for and in relation to himself. Even if the source of this real knowledge is universal. Because the universal is differentiated at an extremely high level at the level of the source of an individual and that it is densified at the extreme at our level. Many people talk of faith, but in reality they are talking about beliefs. And there is an infinite difference between the two. Because faith can support no doubt. And doubt will be the test of man to single out every fear that has made its home of the psychic territory and that is just waiting to be awaken, until there is no dark place for it left to hide. It is then that the individual will know how real he is and that those who simply believed will fail as their beliefs cannot act as placebos any more. |
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awakening has happened when you realise your not who you thought you were. automatically then you seek the truth .some people realise themselves through the seeking, some when the seeking has stopped. whatever happens its the knowing thats growing.
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Well put Oneworld, it never occurs to the person who is not "awake", that the question can, or needs, to be asked. But having asked the question, they need to work out the answer for themselves. The reason for that being that although many people ask the question, not all of them find the same answer. This doesn't mean that any of these answers are wrong, it just means that each one of us has the need for re-assurance and guidance on the direction we should be taking on the journey into enlightenment.
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Hi
I think that awakening comes in "flashes" and get brighter and brighter each time. Because awakening is a state of being, an awareness, and it comes suddenly, may fade away and then come back clearer than before. I think that everybody who knows that "circumstances don't matter, only state of being matters" is awake and always maintains a balanced and happy state of being on the way to awakening. Thank you very very much. All of the posts were really really awakening posts! Elias |
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Are you dreaming? http://montalk.net/metaphys/58/you-are-dreaming
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Maybe it would be worthwhile to got to
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Firework continue: ....knowing, really knowing, is being in creative energy (duality) interacting\struggling between powers. 1. n. Liberation Verbalizing: the Power of Idea, the intrinsical dynamics to liberate the self from being confined whether it collapses inwardly or expands outwardly as a result of 'circumstances' . 2. n. Epistemology Verbalizing: the Power of Gun, the individual inquisition of nature of knowledge, its presuppositions and foundations, its extent and validity. The feat of reasoning is pointing a Gun at your opponent's head. Nobody can control you untill you give up your Gun. 3. n. Experience Verbalizing: the Power of Catalyst, is the individual reality being established as exchangeable commodities where free will act upon free will servicing and measuring one's capabilities against a comparative values metrics. Hardship experience drives advance impetus and is often exchanged with greater values thus generating more personal wealth/Power. The as-is Awakening is not a novelty. Awakening has been happening moment to moment, every minute every second since the day a baby was borne as long as there is an internalizing verbalization. Today, it is just another major leap. |
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Does everyone have such an epiphany? I believe it is possible. Does my "awakening" make me more than I was before? Well, yes and no. Certainly no more valuable as a being, or in any way "better" than anyone, whatever that means. But yes, my vision is clearer, the confusion is parted, and I am able to assimilate new information much more rapidly and clearly than I ever imagined possible. And my job is to pass it on expeditiously. I don't know how old you are, ChristinCP...but it doesn't matter. It took half a century for my life to make sense. Part of me always had faith that it would fall into place eventually. The long wait was frustrating...and worth it. Be patient. |
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