March Forward.org - you CAN quit the army (for vets/service)

no caste · 12-31-2009, 05:34 PM

Radio - "You can't have an empire without bigotry and racism." Class warfare theory, i.e. enlisted vs. officers, dehumanizing 'enemy' gooks, war profiteers and board members, double dipping retired generals in the media, officers/career vs. combat, vets.

**50,000 service members have deserted the army**

Also: The Veteran - documentary

Michael Prysner and James Circello, staff members of March Forward!, an antiwar organization for active duty soldiers and veterans, discuss the bigotry ingrained in military culture that dehumanizes the enemy du jour, the class struggle between enlisted soldiers and officers, the intentional “draw fire” missions that boost an officer’s career while endangering troops, double-dipping retired generals who get paid to propagandize for more war, the continued deployment of soldiers with PTSD and the Pentagon’s fear of a mass GI desertion.

MP3 here. (30:09)
http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/12/20/...ames-circello/

Humble Janitor · 01-01-2010, 08:31 AM

It looks like only a mass GI desertion is going to stop either war. The public is too busy crying and feeling sad about soldiers leaving.

Where's the righteous anger? The protests? The die-ins? lock-downs?

no caste · 01-16-2010, 12:43 AM

About Robert Gates: MEET THE BOSS

Gates is the only U.S. secretary of defense ever to be asked to remain in office by a newly elected president. The 2008 election was an unambiguous popular rejection of the Bush administration and its imperial foreign policy. The people of the United States, including the majority of people in the military, wanted to sweep out the Bush team. But President Obama asked Gates, a key architect of the current conflicts, to stay.

Gates must have some valuable experience and qualifications to remain the head of the war machine after our “great democracy” voted those policies out!

Gates’ illustrious military service spans an entire two years in the Air Force as a second lieutenant. He spent the Vietnam War at a base in Missouri and attending top-notch universities. His subsequent career in the CIA includes heavy involvement in the Iran-Contra affair, a notorious criminal scandal that caused the deaths of thousands of innocent people.

But most valuable to the Pentagon would be Gates’ wealth of experience serving on the boards of directors of a variety of private companies, many of which he holds personal financial investments with.

This is the real résumé of our esteemed leader:

* Board of Trustees of Fidelity Investments, the largest mutual fund company in the world. Among other defense investments, Fidelity works in partnership with the Boeing Company, one of the largest war-profiteering corporations in the world, holding some of the largest defense contracts with the Pentagon.
* Board of Directors of Parker Drilling Company, which is drilling for oil all over the world. Particularly, Parker Drilling operates in Kuwait and has heavy investments drilling for oil in Kazakhstan, one of the former oil-rich Soviet-bloc countries that the Pentagon hopes to win control over by having a U.S. base in Afghanistan.
* Board of Directors of NACCO Industries, which has approximately $30 million in defense contracts.
* Board of Directors of Draper Labs, which was once known as the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Instrumentation Laboratory. After scoring huge defense contracts to develop navigation systems for ballistic missiles during the criminal war in Vietnam, massive anti-war protests at MIT against the research program shamed the group into splitting off and becoming Draper Labs, which still holds multi-billion-dollar defense contracts with the Pentagon.
* Board of Directors of Science Applications International Corporation, a defense contractor that made a killing off of the war in Iraq, elevating it to the ninth largest defense contractor in the world. SAIC is now a Fortune 500 company holding multi-billion-dollar defense contracts with the Pentagon.

mntruthseeker · 01-16-2010, 03:06 AM

Geeze wonder why this is not reported in the media.............I hope that this video is spread throughout the world

Bless their hearts for having the courage to say 'ENOUGHT"

Gnosis5 · 01-16-2010, 04:04 AM

I have a relative who works with the Navy Seals and I would like to see him come home.

12-31-2009, 05:34 PM	#1
no caste Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,375	March Forward.org - you CAN quit the army (for vets/service) Radio - "You can't have an empire without bigotry and racism." Class warfare theory, i.e. enlisted vs. officers, dehumanizing 'enemy' gooks, war profiteers and board members, double dipping retired generals in the media, officers/career vs. combat, vets. 50,000 service members have deserted the army Also: The Veteran - documentary Michael Prysner and James Circello, staff members of March Forward!, an antiwar organization for active duty soldiers and veterans, discuss the bigotry ingrained in military culture that dehumanizes the enemy du jour, the class struggle between enlisted soldiers and officers, the intentional “draw fire” missions that boost an officer’s career while endangering troops, double-dipping retired generals who get paid to propagandize for more war, the continued deployment of soldiers with PTSD and the Pentagon’s fear of a mass GI desertion. MP3 here. (30:09) http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/12/20/...ames-circello/

01-01-2010, 08:31 AM	#2
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: March Forward.org - you CAN quit the army (for vets/service) It looks like only a mass GI desertion is going to stop either war. The public is too busy crying and feeling sad about soldiers leaving. Where's the righteous anger? The protests? The die-ins? lock-downs?

01-16-2010, 12:43 AM	#3
no caste Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,375	Re: March Forward.org - you CAN quit the army (for vets/service) About Robert Gates: MEET THE BOSS Gates is the only U.S. secretary of defense ever to be asked to remain in office by a newly elected president. The 2008 election was an unambiguous popular rejection of the Bush administration and its imperial foreign policy. The people of the United States, including the majority of people in the military, wanted to sweep out the Bush team. But President Obama asked Gates, a key architect of the current conflicts, to stay. Gates must have some valuable experience and qualifications to remain the head of the war machine after our “great democracy” voted those policies out! Gates’ illustrious military service spans an entire two years in the Air Force as a second lieutenant. He spent the Vietnam War at a base in Missouri and attending top-notch universities. His subsequent career in the CIA includes heavy involvement in the Iran-Contra affair, a notorious criminal scandal that caused the deaths of thousands of innocent people. But most valuable to the Pentagon would be Gates’ wealth of experience serving on the boards of directors of a variety of private companies, many of which he holds personal financial investments with. This is the real résumé of our esteemed leader: * Board of Trustees of Fidelity Investments, the largest mutual fund company in the world. Among other defense investments, Fidelity works in partnership with the Boeing Company, one of the largest war-profiteering corporations in the world, holding some of the largest defense contracts with the Pentagon. * Board of Directors of Parker Drilling Company, which is drilling for oil all over the world. Particularly, Parker Drilling operates in Kuwait and has heavy investments drilling for oil in Kazakhstan, one of the former oil-rich Soviet-bloc countries that the Pentagon hopes to win control over by having a U.S. base in Afghanistan. * Board of Directors of NACCO Industries, which has approximately $30 million in defense contracts. * Board of Directors of Draper Labs, which was once known as the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Instrumentation Laboratory. After scoring huge defense contracts to develop navigation systems for ballistic missiles during the criminal war in Vietnam, massive anti-war protests at MIT against the research program shamed the group into splitting off and becoming Draper Labs, which still holds multi-billion-dollar defense contracts with the Pentagon. * Board of Directors of Science Applications International Corporation, a defense contractor that made a killing off of the war in Iraq, elevating it to the ninth largest defense contractor in the world. SAIC is now a Fortune 500 company holding multi-billion-dollar defense contracts with the Pentagon.

01-16-2010, 03:06 AM	#4
mntruthseeker Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,482	Re: March Forward.org - you CAN quit the army (for vets/service) Geeze wonder why this is not reported in the media.............I hope that this video is spread throughout the world Bless their hearts for having the courage to say 'ENOUGHT"

01-16-2010, 04:04 AM	#5
Gnosis5 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,659	Re: March Forward.org - you CAN quit the army (for vets/service) I have a relative who works with the Navy Seals and I would like to see him come home.