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We remote viewed a civilization around Sirius during the CSETI training / outing I was on. Multiple people from he group reported visions of a civilization / city that looked like it was made out of geometric light. I guess there are supposed to be multiple civilizations around this star on different planets.
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Are we preparing for a Drac-Attack? ![]() ![]() I'm not basing this on anything I have heard or read. I'm just wondering. I'm trying to keep an open mind. I don't know what to think or believe. I just think we are in a huge amount of trouble...but I'm not sure what the nature of that trouble really is. I'm not sure I want to know either. Everyone has been lying to us...so it must be pretty darn bad. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 10-15-2009 at 06:31 PM. |
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Man, I have no clue what any of that means. What is it based on?
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I don't know how this statement compares with the assertion about a red dwarf and scientists confirming a trinary system. Also, Stewart says that "Merfolk" were hybrids of humans and dolphins and they were created by the Atlanteans and/or the Sirians. He also describes what beings from the planet Khoom from the Sirius A star sytem look like, and beings from a "jungle/swamp-like planet" of Sirius B. Neither sound like fish people. By the way, he says Sirius A beings have an agreement with the Israeli government. |
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Thank-you all for your contributions. Perhaps it is helpful to look at North Africa (including Egypt) as a whole rather than just looking at the Dogon tribe. My quest has recently narrowed to Draco/Draconian Reptilians, Orion(including Sirius)/Greys, and 'our' Solar System/Humans. Perhaps this is over-simplified...but I have a simple mind...which is easily confused. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 10-16-2009 at 04:00 PM. |
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It's almost like you can chart the extraterrestrial intervention like a tree diagram. Like the Dogons...they migrated from Egypt with there legacy of fish type aquatic god. Others in India speak of the same kind of visitation....and they originally came from ????? Get my drift? If we take the pieces I bet we can see that all these type legends spring from a common source. |
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I agree. I see the general concept. I don't see the details...yet.
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I'm feeling really close to the truth...yet really far away. I'm thinking that Sirius is at the center of everything...yet I'm not sure exactly how.
Could it be that the God of This World is a Draconian-possessed androgynous black human alien from Sirius who heads Giza Intelligence, the Secret Space Program, and the Deep Underground Military Bases...and who is the real Black Pope? Could the Ark of the Covenant be the UFO which brought us here from Sirius along with technology obtained from Draconian-demons in exchange for allowing the Draconians to possess the elite-humans? Is this solar system really part of the Siran solar system? Is our sun really Sirius C? Is the ancient depiction of three suns really Sirius A, Sirius B, and Sirius C? Are the tall greys from Sirius, really just human beings? Did we all come from Sirius? Is there a stargate between this solar system and Sirius? Is all of the cr@p we have been in for millions of years really a Sirian civil war? Are we all different factions of Sirians? Would my pet project of The United States of the Solar System really have to apply to Sirius as well? Is Sirius the All Seeing Eye at the top of the pyramid? Is Sunday really Sun God Day? Is this sun really Sirius? Is the Roman Catholic Church all about Sirius? Are the Masons all about Sirius? Are the occultists all about Sirius? Is the layout of Washington D.C. all about Sirius? Is the Sirian Theocratic System really the Universal Church aka The Holy Roman Empire aka the New World Order? How answerest thou...SaLuSa? |
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I just finished modifying the first post. I think it is a worthy place to do some Sirius research. This sort of thing is almost like getting a degree in disorientation. I'm feeling like I'm venturing into forbidden territory with this subject and these threads. I continue to wonder if this pursuit even registers with anyone who monitors sites such as this one. My guess is that the exposure is so small...that it raises very little, if any, alarm. This is probably the proper place to discuss these subjects. I don't discuss them at work...and I don't go to church and raise heck during Sunday school classes...or argue with church members. I don't recommend causing trouble with any of this information. Just get informed...and start positively reinforcing the best that you find in society. This will result in evolutionary rather than revolutionary change. I think the world may go nuts anyway in the next few years. Fasten your seatbelts.
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I'm going to continue to speculate. Could Nibiru be Sirius C? Or could our sun be considered to be Sirius C? I don't know...but I'm looking for connections between our solar system and the Sirian solar system. This includes ET's, Stargates, Symbology, Mythology, Archeology, Paleoastronomy, etc, etc. If what I currently think about Sirius is true...then I would expect a massive effort to cover up the truth about Sirius. This could be the real Greatest Story Ever Told. Please do some digging folks. Robert Temple did some digging...and this is what he experienced: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/un...sp_sirio11.htm Please read this link in its entirety. It contains some very interesting information. There were obviously some powerful people who did not want anyone taking Sirius too seriously. Here is an excerpt from this link (I printed this to whet your appetites! I don't usually do this!):
"But the sad part of the aftermath of The Sirius Mystery was the extreme and virulent hostility towards me by certain security agencies, most notably the American ones. Since I am myself an American by origin, I found this insulting and distressing. On several occasions I was targeted in ways so extreme that they seemed hysterical beyond all belief. I am certain that false information was entered into my security files to blacken my reputation. I was blackballed even in some organizations which seem to me so harmless that I still can't understand it. To give an example, I was co-editing a magazine at one time and decided to join the Foreign Press Association (FPA) in London so that I could have lunch there and get a press pass. I was told I needed two members to recommend me, and was given the names of two American journalists in London who should be happy to do so. So I asked Bonnie Angelo of Time-Life, and she was delighted. (I later wrote for her London bureau for several years and did British science reporting for Discover magazine.) I then went to another man who was equally friendly and he said he would, and signed my form. That particular man, whom I do not wish to identify, had certain connections in Washington, if you take my meaning. A few hours later, Catherine Postlethwaite, the Secretary of the FPA, told me she had a hysterical phone call from a man insisting that he wanted to use his blackball against me and stop me from joining the FPA. She was completely astonished and said to him he had just signed my form and now on the same day he was trying to blackball me, and how could he possibly explain that? He refused to explain, but was relentlessly insistent. She and the Council took the view in the end that the man was acting unreasonably, for whatever motives, and they overruled his blackball. But I recognized a pattern of behavior which has assailed me on many occasions. There was another time, for instance, when I had commenced what was meant to be a profitable association with a man I knew to make several series of corporate videos, with me as writer and co-producer and his company providing the finance and facilities. We made one video and suddenly everything stopped mysteriously. After some time he told me: 'I really wanted to do these projects with you, but I can't, and even though I am not supposed to tell you, I felt that I owed you an explanation. The fact is that I have had the CIA from America on the phone to me practically every day for the past three weeks harassing me and telling me I must not work with you, and as much as I like you, my life isn't worth living with this kind of continual pressure and interruption of my work every day by hysterical American officials. So that is the reason, and the only reason, why I am withdrawing from our projects together.' I thanked him for being so honest with me. Several other people were as well. Indeed, one old fellow I was friendly with, a retired Brigadier Shelford Bidwell, actually told me that he had been asked to read The Sirius Mystery and write a thorough report on it for the British security services. He had found it rather difficult because it was not his kind of subject! He hadn't meant to tell me this, but he slipped up when chatting over tea and said by way of being pleasant how interesting The Sirius Mystery was. When I expressed astonishment that he had read something so far from all his other interests, he first said that he had read every word meticulously, as if that explained everything. When I protested that this was quite unbelievable, he had to explain why he had done so. He was so sheepish and embarrassed that I spared him further questioning so that he wouldn't have to spend the rest of his life with a security breach on his conscience. Another old friend, whom I had known when he was a policeman in a panda car and who is now a famous police commissioner, said he had been approached by MI5 to do a security report on me. He had found it disturbing that there was such suspicion attached to me, and he couldn't explain it, since he wasn't given an explanation himself. He tried to tell them there was nothing at all suspicious about me and that he knew me well, and he wrote up everything he could find about me trying to demonstrate that I was harmless. But they didn't seem to want to be told that and were obviously unsatisfied, which disturbed him even more. This prosecution went on for more than fifteen years. It cost me income, career opportunities, advancements, and friends. I often wonder about it, especially the frenzied aspects of it. Why were so many people in high places foaming at the mouth in such an uncontrollable manner? Just what was it that I had done? I have never known." [We do. What Temple had done was to violate the inviolate. Just as the infamous "Brookings Report" documented at the dawn of NASA, and as Arthur C. Clarke reiterated 9 years later in "2001 - A Space Odyssey," there must be a period of preparation before certain disturbing truths can be revealed. Obviously, someone at these intelligence agencies was upset that Temple might be jumping the gun and getting a bit too close to the truth. So he was roughed up a bit to keep him from pursuing the Mystery. This is no idle speculation. The bottom line is that there is no mundane scenario under which research into the beliefs of an ancient tribe of Africans can be of any interest to intelligence agencies concerned with national security. Unless of course the very idea of alien intervention in human affairs or public attention being focused on Sirius itself is in some way a security threat. As you will see, it only gets better ...] "There were two employees of NASA who made attacks on me which I thought went far beyond mere critical disagreement. This was all the more distressing to me because I had been friends for some years with a delightful man, Captain Robert Freitag of the US Navy, who was Deputy Director of the Advanced Programs department of NASA's Office of Space Flight. Bob Freitag and I met through Arthur C. Clarke and when he came to London, Bob and I would often meet for dinner, as we were both very keen on good food and I would try to find something unusual, such as a Hungarian restaurant. On a visit to Washington I called in to see Bob Freitag and he said he had a very bright fellow who worked for him called Jesco von Puttkamer, whom he wanted me to meet. He called him in and I told both of them about The Sirius Mystery. This man was actually Baron Jesco von Puttkamer, and I believe he was one of the Germans who came to the United States with Werner von Braun. But I was shocked when later von Puttkamer maligned me in an astonishing manner on official NASA writing paper (in German) to my German publishers, a separate arm of which had apparently asked him to review my book for a journal. The letter said (11 July 1977) of me (my translation) that, 'he acts like a UFO-follower and leaps directly to the most farfetched hypothesis, which requires an assumption of an assumption of an assumption, namely that of extraterrestrial astronauts, because he believes it. This is rather religious than scientific ... Temple's work ... in the scientific sense is worthless; the evidences which he puts forward represent no proofs. The thesis which he put forward to my opinion presents not the slightest evidence, not to mention proof'. Von Puttkamer went on to say that he was available to give a lecture in Frankfurt if they wanted him to. I wrote to Bob Freitag on September 3, 1977, and said: 'My German publishers, Umschau Verlag, have sent me a copy of a highly objectionable letter about me and my book The Sirius Mystery written to them by your friend Puttkamer on NASA stationery, signing it from the Advanced Programs Office. As this could be construed as an official expression of NASA sentiments, I must ask you to send both to me and my German publishers a letter disassociating NASA from the sentiments expressed by Puttkamer ... (he) says that I used his name in a television broadcast as supporting my hypothesis. This is entirely untrue. He says that I did this, "in a completely fabricated performance, which would obviously serve to give the book status". I am very disturbed at this outpouring of vituperation from your friend ... Puttkamer then goes on to attribute to me ideas which do not appear in my book (such as the story of Gilgamesh records the visit of spacemen, which is I believe an idea of von Daniken's) based on things discussed in parts of the book, namely the second half, which he admits he has not even read. Bob Freitag was not pleased by von Puttkamer's behavior, and Bob wrote to me on September 16,1977, saying of von Puttkamer: 'I was unaware of the contents of his letter and the problem it has caused you. 'First, I hasten to disassociate the Advanced Programs Office and NASA from the views expressed by Mr. von Puttkamer. These are certainly his private views ... I have instructed him to get in touch with you and the firm to provide quickly the disclaimer that he was speaking privately and not expressing a NASA viewpoint ... I remain interested in your plans for a new book and would be pleased to be kept up to date on your plans and progress. I would like the opportunity of discussing this in London ...' Von Puttkamer followed with a letter dated October 7,1977, saying of his views: 'It does not represent anything like an "official NASA position". The use of the stationery may have given you that impression (using it was a thoughtlessness which I regret) ... I regret that this caused the appearance of an "official NASA sentiment" to you.' He also said that he had not meant to attack me personally. Despite being a NASA scientist he had put forward a very weird hypothesis, astronomically impossible, that Sirius B had once been visible to the naked eye. Such ignorance of astrophysics surprised me; his statement completely ignored the parallax which would prevent Sirius B, whatever kind of star it was earlier in its history, from being differentiated from Sirius A by the naked eye. So much for Jesco von Puttkamer, who never entered the frey again. For the record, Baron von Puttkamer was brought over in Operation Paperclip, yet another interesting aspect of this story. He also managed to manipulate his way into becoming the science advisor on the first Star Trek film by undermining the close relationship that producer Gene Roddenberry had developed with his first choice to the film's science advisor - a young man named Richard C. Hoagland ..." Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 10-22-2009 at 02:58 AM. |
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My computer can be working just fine...but when I start posting my speculations and insecurities...it seems that my computer begins behaving strangely. I can almost predict when this is going to occur. Is this Echelon at Work...or am I just more paranoid than usual? I don't have a problem with the internet being monitored...or with YouTube being reasonably censored...but telephone conversations being listened to and recorded without probable cause or the signature of a federal judge...or a computer being accessed directly...concerns me greatly. I hope I'm wrong. I hope it's just that my computer is old and slow...and not that it's overburdened with all manner of spyware, etc. My previous post combined with horrible computer performance brought this on. Once again...I just want the Dracs to stop giving the orders around here. I don't care what kind of deals we made with them...here or in Sirius. I get the picture of alphabet agency people from several countries, and Jesuits worldwide...running around following ridiculous orders issued by the Dracs...because the consequences of not doing so would be even worse. Once again, I hope I'm completely wrong. I want a sane and peaceful world...but I'm not seeing that happening anytime soon. Hope springs eternal.
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You are hot on the trail! I think this is a hugely important subject. I have a love/hate relationship with the Roman Catholic Church. I would love to have a completely open yet confidential conversation with a high-ranking church official regarding what is really going on in the Universe. I think they...more than just about anyone else...would know. I love the Catholic people...including most musicians and clergy. But I have come to think of the Roman Catholic Church as a Draconian Universal Church/State Theocracy which is very dark at it's core.
I'm presently seeing Draco > Aldebaran > Sirius B> Earth (Giza Intelligence, Vatican, Nazis, Masons, Illuminati, Occultists, City of London, United Nations, Washington D.C., Deep Underground Military Bases, Secret Space Program) = Military/Industrial/Financial/Draconian Theocracy. This is not exactly a happy go lucky, live and let live, group of humans and extraterrestrials...to say the least! I suspect that this is where all the drug money...tax money...bankster bail-out money...missing trillions from the defense budget, etc...really goes. These are Sirius Issues. |
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Once again...I'm considering Pleiades/Aldebaran > Sirius A/Sirius B > Masons/Nazis as competing human factions all under the control of the Dracs. This is only a very preliminary hypothesis. We humans are a wonderful creation...but I think that we are easily deceived and corrupted. We have our vulnerabilities and weaknesses...to say the least. The Dracs seem to be very good at exploiting these vulnerabilities and weaknesses. Please consider the road from the Pleiades to Earth by way of Aldebaran and Sirius. I don't know Jack...or Jill...about this subject. Help me out here...please.
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i love this thread.I haven't read yet all the books and docs you mention, just heard a few shows. I heard already about the dogons from my dad, who traveled to Africa a big lot. I think you're right on. I always wanted to go to ethiopia to study the language and history of these people, I want to go there and keep you lot informed of what I find, about the ark... there is a masonic lodge here in Liège (Belgium) that is called Sirius, and that's all I got about it, that info was handed to me by a reliable truthseeker. Yes your phone is tapped and you HD is closely watched. No question to my mind about it, I know I've been filed up since years when I protested at the place usa keeps their nuke heads in Belgium. I m losing friends and don't have a clue of how to make a living. It doesn't matter because we do what we do for the right reason. I make new friends and find other ways to live than this bloody workforbills prison.
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Thank-you akopij. I enjoyed the Messien video. The Sirius lodge was interesting! Here is another Messien video. Who knows...maybe all of the people who are on the lists will be at the top of the list for the top jobs...after the Solar System Exorcism...which is coming soon...I hope.
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orthodoxy- as to your computer acting weird as if you're getting close to truth or something- I can assure you that the AI system is VERY REAL!!!!!
I have experienced it as have others (whom I was with) and it's real. Everything we type here is collected as data if they are interested. And I will say something else- I don't like the *force* behind it- I sensed a GREAT MALEVOLENCE. BTW- my ex is an excellent researcher ad researched the Dogon's and I will ask him- he seems to have the ancient stuff down pat (as far as research- not saying he knows what lies at the bottom). |
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Thank-you again eleni. I'm still trying to digest the links. You are very astute. I don't have any background in this subject...but the words Pleiadians, Aldebaran, Sirius, Annunaki, Draconians, and Reptilians...seem to be key words. A lot of this seems to be as much non-physical as it is physical. Non traditional theologians may be of help here. I once told a graduate of the Harvard Divinity School that I didn't believe in God...but that I did believe in extraterrestrials from the Pleiades. His face lit up...and his eyes sparkled...but he just smiled. I dropped the subject...but I should have pressed forward.
Sometimes it almost seems like computers have souls...or are possessed. Just a feeling. The fan on my computer starts racing when I brain storm on a thread. It behaves strangely in other ways which are hard to describe. I keep thinking this is connected with the underground bases rather than with the Homeland Security people (or equivalent). But what do I know? NSA Cray supercomputers perhaps. I currently think of these people (or aliens?) as my fan club! Hi guys! Say hello to Lucifer and Lord Draco for me! One person I know had a computer program which seemed to be alive. I can't recall the details. The bottom line is that I think we live on a haunted planet...which is in dire need of an exorcism. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 10-28-2009 at 06:21 AM. |
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You shouldn't worry so much, bad for wrinkles :0)
You are creating your reality. If you want to experience a haunted planet, then you shall have your haunted 'tapped' computer experience... paranoia dude... sucks. Or you can know that you are entering into a much better age what's called a Golden Age. That it truly is already manifest on inner levels and the only question left is how much of a role are you going to play in helping welcome it in and helping people of this world make a nice smooth transition. That's the 'sirius' question of the day. Why do you think you've bothered to do all this research anyway? Other than pure entertainment value (sounds like your into scary flicks)... Tune into truth beyond the scummies and you'll find it's all just fine! Do bad guys really have any power? Is that the true nature of creation? No! Bad guys are literally trying to swim against the entirety that creation is, they have no chance... and there day is up... Connect to the exciting role you have to play to help humanity heal itself, protect it's planet and be raised up into the true reality that IS: NAMASTE! |
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I just want the truth...both positive and negative. I try not to be stuck on positive or negative. I try to be neither presumptuously positive or needlessly negative.
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Orthodoxy I don't intend to have a top job. don't need that to be happy and responsible.
14 chakras your words are of wisdom, but I consider paranoia as a tool that has to be used carefully, as it is a part of my soul I can't reject it without dissolving harmony. I agree that bad guys don't have that much power, and that's why they're so pront to monitoring us. Do bad guys even really exist outside of our horizon? As you said, we create our reality, so events depend of how we look at them. As I look at beauty and harmony in both microcosmos and macrocosmos, golden age and armageddon melt and play chess on an infinite set with no winner nor loser. 0=0 gives me this vision I call maybe you won't like it, I just feel like sharing |
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HERES A LITTLE ANSWER TO SOME OF THE THINGS I HAVE LEARNED
The Greatest Conspiracies of all time are ones that are done right in front of you, right in your face…..that no one would ever believe The CIA has done unbelievable things to my life all but destroyed my life but when they put a woman in my life to toy with my emotions one who I truly loved and she was running the same con……. I decided to make a summary of what I have learned and put it up everywhere......... and what I found out is that none of what were experiencing on this planet was GODs plan truth be known about what happened to him you wouldnt ever believe it.......His name was Yahweh the angels got rid of him and his wife Ashara and have been running this parallel and all the other parallels as they're blood sport ever since.....would you like to see where they are buried this is they’re grave, not someone elses…….Micalangelos finger in the sky couldn’t be farther from the truth…… THEY WERE HERE the book of Enoch describes where God lives as in a crystal palace surrounded by fire that not even the angels can get to now it’s a trophy left over from the war in the Heavan’s would you like to see it Apollo 10, the astronauts photographed it……I don’t think they had any idea of what they actually took pictures of but I know exactly what it is, it’s the same palace depicted in the book of Enoch http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/luna/esp_luna_26.htm This is for all those who have died trying to tell the truth…. And for all the non believers I’m not saying or telling you to believe any of it but I grew up being told to ask questions lots of questions question everything do not accept what your told listen to your heart and ask yourself what do you think Here is evidence that only put in front of your eyes can you make the final assessment…. A sort of summary of a litany of lies and be careful because you might not like what you See, after seeing someone “go alien” I had to research everything I leave it for you to decide……. OPEN YOUR EYES Zap ruder film, What really happened in Daley Plaza and why did the Warren slam dunked and closed the book on JFK…… Because he tried to tell the truth now the truth about what really happened as given to me by the CIA ….. This was confirmed by Frank Xavier Mullahey and John Hoffman both retired CIA….. Kennedy wanted to make something public he had just done a speech to say he would not tolerate any secret societies….. what he was going to make public is an ALIEN RACE AND THEY WERE NOT HAVING IT why because they're intention is to get rid of us....... they made they're dramatic comeback in 1952 over the white house they were given they're own branch of our government one which used to be refered to as no such agency..........better known as the NSA...... second part of the story Jack Ruby did not kill oswald his grave is empty they funnled him out of the country and hoped that the assassination would die with oswald...KENNEDY WAS TRIANGULATED 3 SHOOTERS ITS TEXT BOOK GOVERNMENT POLICY ON HOW TO ASSASSINATE.......................... the illusion the lie is that they are not here ACTUALLY THEY ARE AND THEY ARE REPLACING US AND THEY'RE AGENDA IS TO GET RID OF US..................THE FRIGHTENING THING IS THAT ITS BIBLICAL AND ITS ALL A 2009 YEAR OLD CON. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lo...pelofJudas.pdf Disclosure Project 57 species federal government has documented 57 different varieties of extra terrestrials what concerns them the most is the ones who can look very much like you and I and walk amonst us and you wouldn’t even know they were here what they didn’t tell us is that they can become us……. Lunar Landing 911 BBC announces building 7 colapses early Smoke and mirrors Our Savior and other art pertaining to extra terrestrials http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html History no one would except unless they saw it for them selves Swine flu and population control They are now running out of the swine flu vaccine and a national emergency is in place are you seeing the con http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/24...ion=cnn_latest should a national emergency take place FEMA COULD BE ENACTED AND HERE IS A LIST OF THE CHANGES IN LAWS FEMA NOW HAS IN PLACE TO SCREW US … http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004...amps3sep04.htm LIONS AND TIGERS AND DEATH CAMPS OH MY Watch the photos of Auschwitz http://isurvived.org/Survivors_Folde...toAlbum-1.html then watch this tape then wake up FEMA DEATH CAMPS THE GREATEST CONSPIRACIES OF ALL TIME ARE THE ONES DONE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE THAT NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE The greatest conspiracy of all time is going on by an actor an award winning duel identity OSCARS FOR THIS ONE AND IM SURE WE WILL NEVER HERE HIM SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ACADEMY…………BUT WE WILL SEE HIM SCREW US USE YOUR OWN EYES LOOK AT HIS EARS LOOK AT THE BRIDGE OF HIS NOSE LOOK LOOK LOOK.............................................. ............... My story http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...t=alien+agenda or simply feel free to look at my play lists look at the con in full effect http://www.youtube.com/user/notonyourlifewillit |
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