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10-08-2008, 03:23 PM | #126 | |
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I am utterly convinced that Zeitgeist/Venus Project will see the light. The movement is already gaining some steady pace here, at Avalon. In case you are not yet aware of it, there is a thread opened by Member Xammy, where the Practical Steps and the Emotional/ Spiritual Preparations towards this New Paradigm could be thoroughly discussed - 'What we are supposed to do' onder the section 'General Discussion'. Behold The Future, it is within You. RaKaR www.futureofmankind.co.uk |
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10-08-2008, 08:06 PM | #127 | |
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Although if you'd like to open up a little bit more and check out some christian guy's research which is not bible based but fact based then i can redirect you to these links (I didn't check them all out): NTR - William (Bill) Cooper Debunks Jordan Maxwell http://nowheretorun.podomatic.com/en...3_45-07_00.mp3 http://conspiracyclothes.com/nowhere...%20maxwell.wmv "Astro-Theology" is ******** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtmO36tmuT0 Nowhere To Run - Evidence for the Existence of Jesus http://conspiracyclothes.com/nowhere...ntr_062108.mp3 http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=36830437 Nowhere To Run Zeitgeist Challenge responds to Acharya S http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...54934404709290 NTR - The Nicaea Myth Debunked http://nowheretorun.podomatic.com/en...6_21-07_00.mp3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmS90DPa6cw Zeitgeist debunking links http://zeitgeistchallenge.com http://ct.grenme.com/index.php/Zeitgeist_Part_I http://www.preventingtruthdecay.org/...tpartone.shtml http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/copycathub.html http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jes...ilarities.html http://www.kingdavid8.com/Copycat/Home.html http://zeitgeistchallenge.com/compon.../catid,2/id,8/ http://educate-yourself.org/lte/zeig...dacharya01aug0... http://www.zeitgeistresponse.info/ http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...63630528394775 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPXc1QcmYDY http://www.alwaysbeready.com/index.p...on=com_content... http://benwitherington.blogspot.com/.../zeitgeist-of-... http://www.christian-forum.net/index...t=ST&f=15&t=14... http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread286883/pg1 http://zeitgeistchallenge.com/compon...ret/Itemid,32/ http://www.allaboutreligion.org/is-j...d-aar-afb2.htm source: http://www.conspiracyclothes.com/now...un/index1.html http://nowheretorun.podomatic.com/ note: I couldn't care less if Chris White is wrong on his claims. Actually it would be quite nice if you could prove him wrong since that would further the debate. Here you go guys. |
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10-08-2008, 10:11 PM | #128 |
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Elirien,
When are you going to let go of the shackles you keep yourself in, and finally be free? |
10-08-2008, 10:29 PM | #129 |
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from the similarities between the Jesus figure and many other figures found in theo-mythological texts alone, one can see that the Jesus story is not an account of the man who we base Jesus on but a superimposed character. These similarities should shock and alarm people concerning Jesus
these proofs are in the public domain and are simply a part of history which predates Christ, it is rather undeniable when compared to these mythological figureheads that the Jesus figure is a composite character I have yet to see any explanation brought forth from the Christian community that can explain away the shocking similarities between the Jesus story and countless others that are near xerox copies of themselves looking at proofs written by people desperately clinging to a beautiful belief structure that they refuse to let go of, will do nothing because the basic proof of the similarities of the Jesus story with older stories told over and over are absolutely undeniable Although lets not forget that the message the Christ myth brought us is very profound and has merit all on its own. We can certainly learn alot from it if we simply cut out the parts that require blind obedience and submission. Do not turn your back on religion altogether simply because some of it is regurgitated rhetoric spoken from a priesthood of control. There is great wisdom to be found there and many great secrets rest in religion, especially the ancient ones. peace |
10-08-2008, 11:42 PM | #130 |
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elirien....
Have you watched this: America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version - 111 min - May 5, 2007 Google Video Link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...67390173&hl=en |
10-09-2008, 09:11 AM | #131 | |
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If you are gonna listen to your prejudice then think about this: - they bring facts to the table (which no channeller or even david icke can for his reptilians) - Even though they are christians they don't use biased information except when so called truth people use the bible and either have misinterpreted it or totally quoted it wrong (mostly on the sitchinite stuff). - christians aren't the bogiee man and christians doesn't mean catholics. there is a huge difference of time before the catholics take the scene. - I am from a Muslim country trying to push this information from some american christian dudes that are just checking out the claims these people made. I am the least likely guy to promote christianism. That doesn't mean you should trust me but hear me just say "I couldn't care less if these guys are wrong or not. I just want to further the debate so that we can see the whole picture on this matter". please check the info out and write me back. don't be new age biggots or fundy truth seekers |
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10-09-2008, 09:14 AM | #132 | |
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---kinda spoiler--- Anyways, very good film starting with the federal reserve system and ending well like... Zeitgeist The Movie ---kinda spoiler end--- |
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10-09-2008, 09:22 AM | #133 | |
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note: Sorry for all the individual posts but I couldn't find a + quote button that would merge them all together. Last edited by elirien; 10-09-2008 at 09:24 AM. Reason: note |
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10-09-2008, 05:36 PM | #134 |
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Excuse me, but this thread is about ZEITGEIST ADDENDUM, not the first Zeitgeist film (about religion). It's is not about Beliefs, it's about the FRACTIONARY MONETARY SYSTEM, explained in an easy to understand manner, the origins of the monetary crisis we find ourselves in....then goes on to talk about solution.
I'm writing this gentle reminder because after I had passed the link on to my friends the very day it was released, a few wrote back that they'd already seen it, assuming I was talking about the first Zeitgeist. The discussions above indicate that you've lost track of the thread's title. |
10-09-2008, 05:59 PM | #135 | |
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Your contribution would be highly appreciated. Regards, RaKaR www.futureofmankind.co.uk |
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10-10-2008, 02:11 PM | #136 |
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Have anyone seen "the Zeitgeist Addendum Review" by Alex Jones??
Apparently he hated it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyQtN...eature=related hmm |
10-10-2008, 02:32 PM | #137 | |
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A matter of taste and Weltanschauung, obviously... Cheers! RaKaR www.futureofmankind.co.uk |
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10-10-2008, 04:02 PM | #138 |
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Yes, obviously..
maybe my "winksmiley02" there was confusing, so just want to make it clear that I realy loved the Addedum movie. Just so you know! But I allmost lost some respect for Alex Jones after listening to this. Tho I guess he means well.. Tho then again, I almost feel like he WANTS people to live in fear sometimes.. It's like you say, a matter of taste and Weltangschauung Take care friend! Last edited by Red; 10-10-2008 at 04:08 PM. |
10-10-2008, 04:33 PM | #139 |
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Zeitgeist Addendum,
Ok, They threw out the baby (bible) with the bath water. I wonder if they would rethink their understanding with acceptance of ET / UFO bible connection knowledge? Many great points in the movie, except their religionization of the bible. I am in full agreement about religions, bad governance, national attitudes and that we should become one as knowing our true humanity. With comprehension of a much bigger picture than just our world mankind is also on the brink of the ET / UFO disclosure. That then puts the spin to how about mankind learning about ET governance and social acceptance in the galaxies? The bible, it's not about religion but about an intergalactic oneness that is already established. You may want to read it. |
10-10-2008, 08:00 PM | #141 | |
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It is a piece of the film. I think debating the details of a film is a indication that you liked it. |
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10-10-2008, 10:05 PM | #142 |
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Utter rubbish. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyQtN4HY4Ko
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10-10-2008, 11:14 PM | #143 |
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very good video, bring on the resource economy of tommorow..... spread the word, join the www.zeitgeistmovement.com
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10-11-2008, 12:45 AM | #144 | |
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alex just doesn't get it. |
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10-11-2008, 12:48 AM | #145 |
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yes me too RAKAR, i'm going to send the zeitgeist addendum and project venus links to EVERYONE i know. you have to remember that people can't unhear something.
i think just by taking the small steps that the film suggests, we all can in some way participate right now in our NON-Compliance to the current paradigm! |
10-11-2008, 01:10 AM | #146 | |
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She really doesn't even have to do alot of convincing here for me. The mythologies hold their own weight. I have checked many of your links and none do any more than nit-pick on dates and minor discrepancies that in no way challenges the similarities as a whole. Most make a subjective attempt to pick on enough minor issues to cause doubt, and then cry foul because there are some minor discrepancies. If it were just Horus, Dionysus, or Mithra and the similarities that border on exact matches on a couple maybe...but there are sooo many that it is undeniable that there is an existing blueprint out there that has been used over and over again. You can even remove Christ from this entire puzzle and still the the footprints remain of an archetype used over and again. In fact if you read them all as one and it is a remarkable story. They kind of flesh each other out into to one big story. The rest of this is just semantics for me because most of it based on interpretation and conjecture that is relied upon just as bad as Acharya used in her own work. It's no wonder there are thousands denominations of Christianity. I think there is a spiritual crisis going on in this world for a very good reason. Yet I am open to being wrong here, in fact that would be cool because this issue has alot of people asking questions. Screw all of the other literature on why anyone is or is not correct, the focus can stay only on the mythology to solve this riddle in my eyes. I would LOVE to understand more why the similarities are so remarkably alike amongst so many figures of worship in our ancient past, so I remain open to further proof along these lines only because the rest is just a quagmire of rhetoric that even the scholars cannot agree on. Last edited by Heretic; 10-11-2008 at 01:31 AM. |
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By the way, I totally agree with Alex Jones on his analyses of the second film. The Venus project just smelled centralization on the first watch and that is not a good thing for me. Someone in the David Icke forum mentioned that even before Alex had posted his comments. There are alternatives to what Zeitgeist and The Venus Project present for energy production and monetary solutions. I need to analyze marx and engels approach more to comment further. These are my opinions which have nothing to do with the topic but I think I have to share: I have people proving me that masonry, satanism, mormonism and many other conspiratorial beliefs are in their core luciferianism. Now why the hell would that be important to people that are very intelligent and do many occult rituals? Why do many conspiracy researchers abhore christianity, make these false claims that they can't prove and don't admit that they are wrong and that they can make errors (like any normal human being)? That messes up their credibility in my opinion and casts big shadows on their other works and sources. It makes christianity look holier then ever in my opinion (and I'm not a christian) since it is being battled with such ferver to no success. I see the same thing with these unjust wars against the muslims that are raging on for years now. these people probably have some very important truth which is trying to be slandered and disguised for years. |
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am downloading it right now.
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Having said that, have you read this statement from the zeitgeist movie site? Quote:
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10-12-2008, 11:21 PM | #150 | |
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I've read that section of their site. I was quite 'enchanted' during the times when I first watched Zeitgeist and that was the time when I read that section. On that: - -This is just my opinion- The style in which the q&a is written is awful. I mean it just smells ego and non-debatability. What are these words? They blindly ask "Where are the 'Primary Sources'?". Let's move on. - Well we had this very good debate with TranceAM about Thomas Paine right here on this forum: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...?t=1700&page=2 - I'm not sure about Massey. One of his books was thrown before me as 'evidence' but I didn't have time to read what this individual wrote. I could use some input on this one since the refutal people have quite the books on this subject (which are non-biblical and some are written by pagan-roman historians). I will check his stuff later on. His wikipedia page doesn't look promising but let's be unbiased. By the way I found this site (which I had the time to only read briefly). Very interesting stuff on this very subject: http://www.conspiracyscience.com/art...geist/part-one Take care. Will look into this tomorrow. It's too late for research |
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