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Yes, another sane and balanced common sense statement, thank you. I already have some ideas why I chose this particular clearing orientation. How one finds oneself is up to oneself and please share.
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Hi Bill,
I have been following your work from the beginning and have referred many people to your site. I support the mission statement of Camelot and that is why I am writing to you today as a critic. First of all, I commend you for keeping an open forum where people can freely ask you questions and I would like to state that I have no doubt that both you and Kerry are perfectly upfront about who you are and where you are coming from, and I appreciate that. Further, I can't think of a single interview you have aired where I think that the whistleblower is intentionally misleading your audience. I understand what you are saying about protecting whistleblowers. I realize some of these people may be jeopordazing their career or putting themselves in personal danger by disclosing information to you. My concern is on discussing the facts and details rather than attacking the personalities involved. I have heard that one strategy by TPTB to prevent disclosure is when there is a big incident to intentionally write up a bona fide document on the incident that is filled with disinformation and then give it to a certain number of insiders, whom they know will eventually leak the document. There will then be another document describing the real incident which is then given to a substantially smaller number of people and heavily controlled. This serves two purposes: (1) TPTB know that if there is a serious incident that some leaks cannot be prevented and that people like us will be researching it and trying to find out what happened. By leaking an official document filled with disinfo, it passifies us into not looking for the real information and convinces us we have found all we are looking for. (2) It causes us to believe a lie which can be used in the future to manipulate anyone who has been briefed by the "disinfo" document. My point in stating this is that if this is the case, nearly all of your sources would correlate the same information, since they had intentionally been given the disinfo document. They would believe what they were telling you and their documentation would be official. The only way this could be disproven would be by trying to correlate the details with outside sources. I think that Cliff is on the right path with bringing up the issue of looking up concrete prices and supply and demand in order to research details of underground bases. The way I see Camelot interviews is kind of like I'm a member on a jury. I listen to all of the information, research all of the supporting evidence, make a decision on what is right or wrong and then act on it. In this case, I feel that Bill Deagle is wrong. My question is to you as a member of the jury: in the pursuit of the truth, why is it that you are relying on correlating whistleblower reports instead of interviewing outside subject-expert witnesses to take a look at the details? Why does Mr. Deagle get some much airtime and attention and your trust in his information, when there are some very compelling details that suggest he may not be right? And when you are called on it by someone who is looking at the details, why do you call Cliff an idiot? My second question is on the ET issue. I realize it is important. I realize that there may be a hidden alien agenda and I tend towards believing this is the case. I've never personally had an ET encounter nor can I say I know anyone who has. In my experience, I see a lot of problems with this world including what's happening with our growing government, the wars in the Middle East, and our dying economy. When I look at this and consider it in a historical context, I come up with two things: the horrific events we have experienced in the past and those that may be coming require both the general support of the people and the belief of the implementers that what they are doing is correct. For example, neither WWI nor WWII would be possible without the support of the people for each country and the armed forces who believe the lie in order to proceed. So, there may be a hidden influence such as the Illuminati or the ET agenda, but it's always us people who are failing to take collective responsibility for our planet and ourselves. In a practical sense, I ask you beyond a certain point what value the ET agenda information has other than entertainment? I have started a thread on this topic at http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=18802. Considering that part of the mission statement of Avalon is to provide real solutions to the groundcrew, I wonder whether continually discussing the ET issue has any practical benefit and just causes division and triggers some people's victim meme of "I'm just one person/there's nothing I can do/it's out of my hands/I'm not responsible". Could you please comment on this? Best Regards, sjkted |
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ok. let me say this. Are we all here for the mutual cause of love of life in the light of truth for the utmost to the highest for the best of us, ie: the Spirit, and the human race?
when i say OneLove.. I mean that. If whatever it is that works for you, and your heart is true... Bless you to the utmost infinity. I know i said i wouldnt post again, but i want to be clear. I love. That is all. Ron Hubbard speaks to you? So be it. Roll with that if you are coming from the heart. what is it that matters... exactly. P.ositive E.nergy A.ctivates C.onstant E.levation Im not here to judge anyone. I speak how i feel from how i see it at this time and place and space from where and whence i come from at this particulars. Take it or leave it. If your heart is true, and you see it through... as i say, bless you to the utmost. That is all. Regardless of this or that, ONE LOVE.* done. now this is my last post. The truth will out, as is the inevitable outcome of the universal natural Spiritual law undeniable. Your arm is to short to box with God, as the saying goes, and that is a good thing. Godbless you all. Much Love & Respect to you *ALL* P.E.A.C.E.* Last edited by AnarChrist; 01-04-2010 at 08:27 AM. |
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Please help keep this thread just for questions for Bill Ryan - take offshoot discussions to new threads - place a link in a reply here. I can also move any posts to start a new thread, and give it a new subject line of your choosing. NOTE: moved posts line up in date order. So you can't start a new thread then add older posts to it. PM me for help with this.
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Please! What has being or turning vegetarian got to do with all of this? Your strong case has no basis for any of the topics on ProjectAvalon or ProjectCamelot. To me you are just speaking nonsense and nothing related to this thread. If you really want to learn about vegetarianism http://www.beyondveg.com/ will perhaps enlighten you to the pitfalls and perils.
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Hi Bill,
I'm new to the forum, love the work you and Kerry are doing, and it's good to be here amongst like-minded souls. Basically my question is, have you ever read the work of Jon King, former editor of the greatly missed UFO Reality magazine in the UK, his novel The Ascension Conspiracy 2013 posits 2013 as the time of transformation on Earth, what's your view of this? Best regards |
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Bit of a long shot Bill but maybe you should get the Rock band Muse to play a camelot gig?
Their lead singer is heavily into all of our topics.... some lyrics... Uprising the paranoia is in bloom, the PR transmissions will resume They'll try to push drugs Keep us all dumbed down and hope that We will never see the truth around Another promise, another scene, another package to keep us trapped in greed With all the green belts wrapped around our minds And endless red tape to keep the truth confined They will not force us They will stop degrading us They will not control us We will be victorious Interchanging mind control Come let the revolution take it's toll if you could Flick the switch and open your third eye, you'd see that We should never be afraid to die Rise up and take the power back, it's time that The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that Their time is coming to an end We have to unify and watch our flag ascend They will not force us They will stop degrading us They will not control us We will be victorious --------------------- United states of Eurasia You and me are the same We don't know or care who's to blame But we know that whoever holds the reins Nothing will change Our cause has gone insane And these wars, they can't be won And these wars, they can't be won And do you want them to go on And on and on Why split these states When there can be only one? And must we do as we're told? Must we do as we're told? You and me fall in line To be punished for unproven crimes! And we know that there is no one we can trust; Our ancient heroes, they are turning to dust! And these wars, they can't be won Does anyone know or care how they begun? They just promise to go on And on and on But soon we will see There can be only one United States! United States! Of... Eurasia! ------------------------ Exopolitics Open skies over me I am waiting patiently I'll wait for a sign As conspiracies unwind Will you slam shut Or free your mind Or stay hypnotised When the Zetas fill the skies Will our leaders tell us why Fully loaded satellites Will conquer nothing but our minds And I've waited patiently And I'll wait for the sign Carried through the centuries Secrets locked up And loaded on my back Well it weights me down When the Zetas fill the skies It's just our leaders in disguise Fully loaded satellites Will conquer nothing but our minds I'm waiting patiently And I'll wait for the sign, yeah And I'm waiting patiently And I'll wait for the sign Last edited by EYES WIDE OPEN; 01-05-2010 at 09:49 AM. |
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Hi wrightio. Just try to look arround and learn. If you can understand my post, then you will have travelled a bit of the journey.
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That's a very patronising statement. Trouble is I agree with him, this is not the thread for you to be banging on about eating meat or not. This thread is for asking Bill Ryan questions.
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Bill what do you think is the best source of information on our true history?
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hello Bill,
I've just listened (twice) to your personal interview on Camelot and got a lot out of it. As a result of it I went back to the Dec 7th 2006 Dr Bill Deagle speech at Granada Forum. I remembered a lot of the things he mentioned but one item popped out at me in a new way. I found myself joining a couple of dots. Not sure I'm being sensible or not. Dr Deagle said that the 'chemtrails' included " .... a silicon based lifeform that did not originate on this planet.......", whaw!, In the light of more recent info via Clay and Shawn Pickering, that statement takes on more clout. Had you also noticed this connection? Also, I'm a pretty 'low-level' sort of bloke and tend to see the world as a 3 dimentional cosmic wonder. In a universe that seems to be infinite in all directions I'm regularly puzzled by the fact that galaxies have a tendency to be flat/circular, or at least tend to mature with time into such a form. This indicates to me that there must be some sort of galactic energy/force that does this. I'd guess that there is a 50% chance that that force is a linear field along the axis line of the whole galaxy. If it is true that our solar system is currently on or near that line we should certainly be expecting peaks in data. I wonder what data is really being recorded? I would like you to take any opportunities you can to discuss this topic with relevant people as you make your way around. Thanks to you. Norman. |
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Hi Bill,
I'm curious whether you have been following Dr. Brook's Agnew and his planned expedition (pending funding) to the north pole to prove/disprove that the earth is hollow. Thanks, |
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Hi Bill,
I would like to know if you plan on addressing Clif High's open letter to you. Specifically this part would be worth addressing. Quote:
I think it would be fair for you to offer a response in light of the fact that we now have his side of the story and you did after all bring it to public light in the first place. Jeff Rense never responded to your open letter as far as I know, proving himself to be a coward in my opinion. I would rather not think that of you, so in a non-confrontational, non-hateful way I think it would be prudent for you to at least offer a small amount of backup to your claim that Clif hired a private investigator. The truth is that one of you is either lying or terribly misinformed because you can't both be right in this instance. |
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Re: Bill Ryan's thread--Nassim Haramein
I just discovered Nassim Haramein ( theresonanceproject.org )
and watched his 8 hour video in 2 parts online at http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9791256390335# and http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...75242307393956 and the short outtake at http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2009/07/p...ibiru-has.html which shows Feb 2003 SOHO images of : "A comet almost 2x the size of Jupiter (the largest planet in our solar system) recently passed through our solar system but was never reported on main stream media because the scientists and astrologists "thought we were toast". This comet, which Nissim believes was Nibiru, should have disrupted our solar system due to its mass and gravitational pull. Mercury should have been pulled into the sun while earth should have experienced tidal waves all over the planet. The comet was on track to hit the sun, but a huge sun flare emission veered the comet off course, as it traveled past the sun and out of our solar system. This was visible from the west coast in the early morning in February 2003. Two comets have gone by inside the orbit of Mercury into the sun. Considering the mass and gravitational pull of these objects, "We shouldn't be here. We were given a second chance. We're floating in grace and 'somebody' is taking care of us." In a few days, Nibiru was out of our solar system. With a "comet" of this size, the gravitational force was enormous." I don't know why it has taken so long for Haramein and his work, which I find very impressive, to come to my attention. He covers a large range of subject from physics (he's developed a Unified Field Theory) to ancient civilizations. I would like to hear what Bill Ryan knows about this man and his work. |
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Apologies. One link I mentioned was removed from the Net, but the following one works
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Hey Bill I see you are on the page now and probably answering the 30 or 40 questions that have been piling up. I saw Duncan on Jesse Venturas' show yesterday and thought he did pretty well. I hope if you and Kerry get a show you don't let them edit it like Conspiracy Theory or Monster Quest. They keep telling you what they are going to tell you and never get around to much. In fact Monster Quest never finds a damn thing.
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Dear Karen, Anchor;
You've asked nicely (twice I think) and with neither effect, or response. So I'll ask. could this thread be a bit easier to participate in, for Bill, and maybe 15 pages shorter, if you simply move some of this to... Oh... I don't know... Maybe something called, "NOT Bill Ryan's Thread" ? Thanks, Fred
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Happy New Year to everyone,
This is another addition to my previous posts (pag. 20. #478 and pag. 20. #494 and pag. 22. #527) regarding “real” versus “faked-Bluebeam” ET disclosure scenario (good ETs vs. dark ETs)”, because Alfred Webre (Note from qbeac: he seems to me an honest and well intended person) has recently also raised all warning flags about the possibility that the Obama ET disclosure could be a False Flag ET disclosure (or Project Bluebeam). I’ve originally seen this new in the Spanish web site “Rafapal.com”, where Alfred Webre explains Rafael Palacios (owner of that site) his concerns in Spanish: Alfred Webre denies the reliability of Michael Salla’s sources on ET contact (Alfred Webre desmiente la fiabilidad de las fuentes de Michael Salla sobre contacto ET) January 8th, 2010 http://www.rafapal.com/?p=3542 ------------------- Alfred Webre explains his concerns in detail in the following long article in English. I recommend reading the whole article, but I’ll just include here a few important paragraphs. Barack Obama not disclosing extraterrestrial presence is top ET/UFO story of 2009 January 3, 2010. 7:50 PM. Seattle Exopolitics Examiner. By Alfred Lambremont Webre http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seatt...-story-of-2009 Brief excerpts: Questions to Bill and Kerry: As I already mentioned in my previous posts, and considering this issue (“good ET” disclosure versus Bluebeam scenario) is so important for the future of humanity, and considering that different Project Camelot interviewees have different-contradictory opinions about it:Thanks. P.D. I agree with Onawah and Daft Ada, Nassim Haramein’s theory is awesome, impressive, I recommend it to everyone!!! Last edited by qbeac; 01-08-2010 at 12:58 PM. |
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Bill I agree with Onawah,
Have you seen the 8 hour lecture from Nasim Haramien? His Unified field theory is awesome and certainly answers a lot of the questions that up to now the standard institutions have been unable to answer. The statement and pictures from the satellite showing this comet which was twice the size of Jupiter, entering our solar system and going around the sun, is amazing to say the least, he shows a close up showing that just as the comet curves around the sun, there was a huge blast from the sun which hit the comet and moved it in it's orbit, presumably saving us from the effects of it. He then showed a video showing two UFO's flying into the sun prior to that event, both ships were larger than the earth. Do you know anything about that from the point of view of some et's taking action to save us? |
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About the Bill Ryan's thread
I have been reading this daily for the past week waiting for a quick reply from him on any or all of the questions stated.
The way the place was programed it is done in a way that when a member logs in it shows the last time they were on line. You can also see where they posted last. Because of that I know Bill has "stopped by" but I also see he has not posted. ( I also understand that if anyone sat at his computer where his log in was stored then it could appear that he had logged in when in fact he was out and about. ) I know that the weather here in this part of North America is taking up most of the time frame of any extra time in just living life. So I am very sure it is the case with many others. On an ending note. I for one do not feel Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy or any other "person" owes anyone any answer at all. IF anyone makes the effort to reply to an e-mail or to a post here that is great that the energy is being shared with all who read. However it is a privilige to have Bill or any person post thier words here. Remember: Life is a gift, and we must keep trying. Be happy take care of you. |
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Hi Bill,
Thanks for answering the questions! I was wondering do you guys have any alert system planned for when the predicted solar flare that's heading our way wich will fry all electronics is going to hit? Do you think you will get contacted by insider scientists who will alarm you guys so you can put it up the site so people can get ready? From what I've heard from James Gilliland it should come end 2009 beginning 2010.. Thank you! |
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I just discovered what appears to be another wonderful website. It's
http://www.fractalfield.com/ There's a short video in 2 parts which introduces it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKmveexaw0E It cover all kinds of bases re ascension and living healthfully on the planet I would also like to hear more about what we can expect as far as a false flag Disclosure and the real thing. Many reputable channelers have said that Obama was not the person the Illuminati wanted to win and that he is a good person to have in the White House now, would do as well as anyone could considering all that must be contended with, etc, and came in with a mission to help turn things around to a more positive agenda. It felt last year like that might actually be the case, and we were on our way to Disclosure, etc, but there seems to be a lot of doubt now, either because Obama just can't contend with it all, that he is actually just another puppet, or that the time just hasn't come yet for the tide to turn. (Maybe he is having a spiritual struggle of his own to open to the Light...in which case, he surely needs our support.) Is it just me, or are things really seeming to be at the tipping point now? With the US economy in such dire straits, there seems to be an enormous amount of pressure, and perhaps it's anyone's guess as to what will happen, but it SURE feels like something's got to give. I'm also wondering if the blue spiral over Norway helped to create the extreme weather conditions we are having now. It seems pretty clear the spiral originated from HAARP, though one channeler I follow, Suzy Ward, says it was of ET origin. (Seems unlikely to me.) Finally, I read that Obama has given Interpol increased power, which strips US citizens of more civil liberties, but some are speculating it is because he wants to have more access to secret documents so that criminal activities committed by Bush, Cheney, etc can be revealed and held accountable. Any inside word on this? |
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