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"Take your responsibility", said the Great Master.
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His destiny shows us how strong the love for Freedom can be. As a child he was grown and taught by the members of Theosophycal Society in those times to be the new Maitreya. When everything was ready for public proclamation in Amsterdam (I think) in 1927 of the new Maitreya, he stepped forward to the platform and said in the noses of the numerous public, journalists, members...: " I am not Maitreya. I am Krishnamurti..."! And than leaved them in a shock. What a man! He returned back his own freedom and started to speak worldwide. His voice about Freedom is still one of the strongest. Love&Respect |
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Oliver, I believe you are spot on in saying that humanity's response to the swine flu mis-hype was a crucial victory for the human race. I have no doubt that in some ways it was also a type of major test case, so to speak. I understand it has gone a significant way to demonstrating to benevolent alien races that humanity has reached a point of being able to claim freedom as a natural right, as something that we all now know we deserve to consider a given. And not just in an abstract or political sense but in some fuller and deeper sense too. If this wasn't the truth, it would probably sound corny. But it is the truth, so it doesn't.
I understand that from next year we will start to have real disclosure. As we know, benevolent beings will never interfere with humans' free choice (nor would they be stupid enough to), except perhaps in an emergency such as nuclear war. Alien involvement in disclosure therefore only becomes possible after humans on their own come up with and make the claim to their right to greater freedom. Only then will the aliens pick up that ball and join in whatever the humans have started, to help take it further. So this is simply a great thread, also because it helps us all to consider more deeply and fully what freedom really means, including on an individual and psychological/emotional level for each of us. |
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TraineeHuman, thank you with my heart for your insight.
I fully agree with you. Concerning disclosure, I am sensing that The System is prepearing a PARTIAL kind of disclosure, which is their attempt to stay in power, which is only worry for them. They will not suceed. Mass awakening really started. Vaccine issue showed us, THEY are NO MORE in control. They can try, but that is all they can do. Their time is over. Thank you again. Love&Respect Last edited by Oliver; 12-08-2009 at 04:13 PM. |
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So many artist were inspired by Freedom, giving us most beautiful pieces of art.
He has always been a Free Man. He and his music. Bob Dylan. The Magnificent one. "Tolling for the aching ones whose wounds cannot be nursed For the countless confused, accused, misused, strung-out ones an' worse An' for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing." Love YouTube- Bob Dylan - Chimes of Freedom Chimes Of Freedom Far between sundown's finish an' midnight's broken toll We ducked inside the doorway, thunder crashing As majestic bells of bolts struck shadows in the sounds Seeming to be the chimes of freedom flashing Flashing for the warriors whose strength is not to fight Flashing for the refugees on the unarmed road of flight An' for each an' ev'ry underdog soldier in the night An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing. In the city's melted furnace, unexpectedly we watched With faces hidden while the walls were tightening As the echo of the wedding bells before the blowin' rain Dissolved into the bells of the lightning Tolling for the rebel, tolling for the rake Tolling for the luckless, the abandoned an' forsaked Tolling for the outcast, burnin' constantly at stake An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing. Through the mad mystic hammering of the wild ripping hail The sky cracked its poems in naked wonder That the clinging of the church bells blew far into the breeze Leaving only bells of lightning and its thunder Striking for the gentle, striking for the kind Striking for the guardians and protectors of the mind An' the unpawned painter behind beyond his rightful time An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing. Through the wild cathedral evening the rain unraveled tales For the disrobed faceless forms of no position Tolling for the tongues with no place to bring their thoughts All down in taken-for-granted situations Tolling for the deaf an' blind, tolling for the mute Tolling for the mistreated, mateless mother, the mistitled prostitute For the misdemeanor outlaw, chased an' cheated by pursuit An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing. Even though a cloud's white curtain in a far-off corner flashed An' the hypnotic splattered mist was slowly lifting Electric light still struck like arrows, fired but for the ones Condemned to drift or else be kept from drifting Tolling for the searching ones, on their speechless, seeking trail For the lonesome-hearted lovers with too personal a tale An' for each unharmful, gentle soul misplaced inside a jail An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing. Starry-eyed an' laughing as I recall when we were caught Trapped by no track of hours for they hanged suspended As we listened one last time an' we watched with one last look Spellbound an' swallowed 'til the tolling ended Tolling for the aching ones whose wounds cannot be nursed For the countless confused, accused, misused, strung-out ones an' worse An' for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing. Last edited by Oliver; 01-05-2010 at 03:25 PM. |
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They were always inspiring me, always, but this song particulary.
Pink Floyd. ...feel the new wind of change... YouTube- Pink Floyd - On the turning away On the turning away From the pale and downtrodden And the words they say Which we won't understand "Don't accept that what's happening Is just a case of others' suffering Or you'll find that you're joining in The turning away" It's a sin that somehow Light is changing to shadow And casting it's shroud Over all we have known Unaware how the ranks have grown Driven on by a heart of stone We could find that we're all alone In the dream of the proud On the wings of the night As the daytime is stirring Where the speechless unite In a silent accord Using words you will find are strange And mesmerised as they light the flame Feel the new wind of change On the wings of the night No more turning away From the weak and the weary No more turning away From the coldness inside Just a world that we all must share It's not enough just to stand and stare Is it only a dream that there'll be No more turning away? But, this one maybe even more! "Hey you don`t help them to burry the Light, don`t give in without a Fight!" YouTube- Pink Floyd-Hey You (Lyrics) Last edited by Oliver; 01-05-2010 at 03:25 PM. |
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In my understanding, Anarchy is the closest to political-society`s freedom system in 3D. It is not disorder and chaos, but state of high coscious and responsibility of every individual in the society. This state can be driven only be Unconditional Love for others. I believe that the future new society will have much mutual points with some anarchystical teachings.
Here are some basics on Anarchism from the Anarchopedia. Love&Respect http://eng.anarchopedia.org/origins_of_anarchism |
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Great stuff oliver
realy injoying your passion here .. and the sharin of your wisdom many thanks ... in freedom do we trust .. in love n freedom we find truth that who we realy are IS.. Infinite consciousness ... o yes !!!! |
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The freedom of the soul
Hazrat Inayat Khan The first sign one notices after the awakening of the soul, is that one begins to see from two points of view. One begins to see the right of the wrong and the wrong of the right. One begins to see the good of the bad and the bad of the good. One begins to see that everything is reflected in its opposite. In this way one rises above intellectuality, which then begins to appear as a primitive or elementary knowledge. One sees the dark in the bright and the bright in the dark, death in birth and birth in death. It is a kind of double view of things. And when one has reached this, then reason has made way for higher reasoning. No doubt one's language will become gibberish to others. People will not understand it. They will be confused by what one says. To some it will be too simple, to others too subtle. Too simple for those who only hear words without meaning, and too subtle for those who strive to understand the meaning and do not reach it. The third aspect is that in failure, one will not feel such disappointment, and in success not such a great joy. In adverse conditions one will not be so dejected, in favorable conditions not so conceited. And these continual changes we experience in this world, such as friends turning into enemies, love sometimes turning to hate, sense to senselessness. These little surprises that we experience every day in this world, when things are different from what we expected, all these shocks will not be felt so deeply. Life in the world is full of shocks, there is no end to them. At every turn we find some surprise, all the time something new, but when the soul is awakened, we do not feel those shocks so deeply. They come but they do not hit us so heavily. At the same time, in spite of all this there comes a deeper feeling. An advanced person is more susceptible to hurts than the one who is not advanced, because his heart becomes tender and he feels acutely. He is living. A rock would not feel it. This awakening of the soul gives fineness on the one hand, and strength to sustain shocks on the other. And then we come to another stage that develops after the awakening of the soul, and that is the desire for freedom. People think they can attain this by retiring from the affairs of the world. No doubt that is a temptation; a spiritual person regards it as a temptation. An awakened soul no longer considers the dream important, and yet he will say, 'When I retire I shall still work, because I shall still be able to be useful.' That is the thought when one is less selfish. The ultimate freedom of the soul is gained by concentration, by meditation, by contemplation, and realization. What concentration is needed for the freedom of the soul? The concentration on that object which is prescribed by one's spiritual teacher, that by the thought of that particular object one may be able to forget oneself for a moment. And then what contemplation is necessary? The contemplation that 'this, my limited self, is no longer myself but God's own instrument, God's temple, which is made in order that the Name of God be glorified'. What meditation is required? The meditation on the thought of God, the Being of God, forgetting absolutely one's limited self. And the realization is this, that then whatever voice comes to one is God's voice, every guidance is God's guidance, every impulse is divine impulse, every action is done by God. It is in this way that the soul is made free, and in the freedom of the soul lies the purpose of life. Love Always mudra |
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Mudra, this post is just as written in a stone.
Profound, concise, clear and correct. Targets the essence of this thread. Who is this man, Hazrat Inayat Khan? He is great being! Great contribution, Wise Woman. Thank you. Love&Respect |
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Declaration of Human Sovereignty
Regarding Contact with Extraterrestrial Nations and Forces The Declaration of Human Sovereignty was developed by the Human Sovereignty Working Group, a network of people committed to humanity’s survival and the advancement of human sovereignty, freedom, and self-determination, as humanity emerges into the Greater Community of intelligent life. http://www.humansovereignty.org/index.htm |
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If you have time, watch this full movie "The Wall".
It is inspired by the legendary album of Pink Floyd with the same name. It is highly emotional reflective hymn to human`s yearn for freedom in an distopian system, seen with the hearts of the great artists. Long time Pink Floyd were actually singing one song only. The song of Freedom. The song of our pain also. Beautiful song. Listen to it when you are alone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxNM7j_ppHI |
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Thank you Oliver!
Your post touched my heart and inflamed it with pride for humanity's greatness in conquering mind control! It really is a battle for our minds and we won! Thank you for posting such an inspiring post! Truth |
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Thank you. It is a gift for me to know I touched someone`s heart. And yes, we won and we shall won. Love&Respect |
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In this Enigma`s song (stunning video) a child is asking:
"I do not understand why we can`t live in Freedom?" One day, when grown, it will have the answer. Children asks the real questions. They are clear and thay can see The Absurd directly. Because it is the biggest absurd one planet not to live in Freedom and Peace. An absurd created by those whose souls are created by the absurd. Let us listen what children are asking. There are answers. Love&Respect. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gunU...eature=related |
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What is total freedom?
Interesting Japanese video-approach. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLFry...eature=related |
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The Birth of Freedom - What is Freedom?
Shorts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2c2L...eature=related |
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Thank you so much for this, I haven't seen this one. Love Kriya |
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Freedom from Fear
..pure, touching, inspiring piece of video....and that voice speach vibrating as light spring wind... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoXuZrrHOlE |
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Bob Dylan again: "Like A Rolling Stone"
...another hymn/symbol of personal freedom... "When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose Youre invinsible now, you got no secrets to conceal How does it feel How does it feel To be on your own With no direction home Like a complete unknown Like a rolling stone?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbnqRAW9Is8 Last edited by Oliver; 01-05-2010 at 03:26 PM. |
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