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Old 09-24-2008, 07:27 PM   #26
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If our destinys have been mapped out by these so call controllers long before many of us was even born who can say who will get in.
These people are chosen and probably geneered for these jobs, there are generally the seeds of those that went before.
I must admit i have always had resevations that someone like obama could become president but with all this technology that has been messing with our lives who knows.
Dan Burisch says all these stargates were closed down and to his knowledge they could be but can you really believe that the egotictical big guns in these high offices could live such things alone
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:50 PM   #27
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If our destinys have been mapped out by these so call controllers long before many of us was even born who can say who will get in.
These people are chosen and probably geneered for these jobs, there are generally the seeds of those that went before.
I must admit i have always had resevations that someone like obama could become president but with all this technology that has been messing with our lives who knows.
Dan Burisch says all these stargates were closed down and to his knowledge they could be but can you really believe that the egotictical big guns in these high offices could live such things alone
I agree with your thoughts. You must look at who is behind the man they call Obama. This will tell you that it is carefully controlled and set in motion based on their beliefs and wishes and not ours. We have a chance to take back control of our future with Ron Paul in my believe but we failed to see the importance of it at the time.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:39 PM   #28
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a possibe out-of-the-ordinary scenario...

THEY try to bring back T1.v83 (or a close version of it), that is A WOMAN is the president. The only woman that is closest to becoming president is Palin, if somehow McCain lets go/looses his seat due to health reason or what not, ect...

somebody check the chart of Palin and Clinton

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Old 09-24-2008, 09:07 PM   #29
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I was just thinking that if I had looked through the looking glass Dan Burisch was talking about, and saw some of the future

AND if, as Bill said, that time is like a river that has a dominent direction, though it could change course, AND then enough of the course changed so that Hillary is most likely not to become president (nor VP, which is just as well as Obama would be fighting to keep his power while she would try to take over)

THEN maybe I would find someone like Palin, who is energetically similiar to Hillary, to get that timeline back on the course I wanted! Now the choice is logical. Just speculating
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:15 PM   #30
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THEN maybe I would find someone like Palin, who is energetically similiar to Hillary, to get that timeline back on the course I wanted! Now the choice is logical. Just speculating
Very good point. Could it be that a particular faction it trying to correct a course that they want to see to fruition? Nudging the future through manipulation of energy?
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:47 PM   #31
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St.Clair mentioned www.neptunecafe.com as one of his resources. When I went there yesterday, someone had posted Obama's 'legitimate, real, birth certificate and chart'...and an article on his prospects for the presidency. I'm wondering if Michael isn't working up his own view of that chart?
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:13 PM   #32
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Hi all

Please forgive my English, it's not my natural language.

Some questions... Dan stated that T2 was avoided and that we are currently in T1v83... ok.

But, even with the looking glass thecnology, how do they know that ?

Have they seen all the others variants ?

How many are there ?

I've read that just a few details are different between variants. How do they tell one from another ?

If we "jumped" from T2 to T1, is it possible to know the exact date ? So that we could "track" the event that made that possible ?

Thanks
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:28 PM   #33
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St.Clair mentioned www.neptunecafe.com as one of his resources. When I went there yesterday, someone had posted Obama's 'legitimate, real, birth certificate and chart'...and an article on his prospects for the presidency. I'm wondering if Michael isn't working up his own view of that chart?



That is a kool website BUT it is NOT a best source

obama was born in KENYA


not Hawaii.


BEST of the best ones are Astrodienst
and Lois Rodden

only verified info respected in Astrology circles

there is no PROVEN chart for bama
its becauise there were so many forgeries
as he is not legally eligible ....


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Old 09-24-2008, 11:34 PM   #34
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What is disturbing in the USA
is that, it appears to be a 2 party platform only ???

when in fact, i do NOT think it is,
or, it certainly, should NOT be, if it is

also, the same right, is on the right,
as, what is on the left side of the equation,
so, a vote either way,
is landing in the same camp !!!

i do NOT think, any president can change the mess

in fact, i think, the best thing to do,
would be, to go back, to individual states,
as, i would bet that would change things in a hurry.

i still believe, that the VP holds more power,
than, the president

and, there are many areas, that are clearly NOT
governed, by the president,
in fact, is it NOT true he does NOT hold certain
levels of security clearance ???

NOW, if we look back ...who allowed those laws
to change

(maybe a movie star president ???)

i think there are a lot of bills that get stuffed
into 4000 page documents, that almost NO one
on earth, could get at 4pm; and; have them read
by 10am, the next morning--
and, vote intelligently on them
it is NOT possible

also, what are the laws,
pertaining to a president having to have been born
in the usa ?

let's say the old bush, was NOT an amerian,
but, was elected a president,
would NOT every law, he inacted,
have to be taken out of the books ???
(if it could be proven, he was NOT born in the usa)

there's an interesting book on
the history of bush right here

http://www.the7thfire.com/bushPrefaceTC.htm

have many people read it ???

there also was a very interesting series on you tube

called

Bill & Hillary Clinton: Their Secret Life -

part 1 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0-HkVcMOSw

part 2 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls9yD...eature=related

part 3 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qetpi...eature=related

part 4 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo5yF...eature=related
part 5 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9szhm...eature=related
part 6 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G1T4...eature=related
part 7 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1r65...eature=related
part 8 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJsrU...eature=related

part 9 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LWc...eature=related
part 10 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjwp8...eature=related
part 11 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVjM...eature=related
part 12 of 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2oTg...eature=related

enjoy it

love
susan
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:50 AM   #35
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Yes as you say exchanger there are more than 2 running for office and behind the scenes, i am english so there for i don't understand the whole American election system but what i can see are people elected or as i have said before picked to be in these higher places even before birth,placed in authority positions to play out the game that the real powers push forward.
This stands the same in Britain also, at the moment Gorden Brown our labour leader seems to be struggling against the tide of things.
Was he merely a puppet taking over the reins of Tony Blair i think so.
But then his ego thought he could become Tony and basically take over where he left off.
I don't feel sorry for any of these so called political men, they are sworn in to take office, they know what has to be done.
Be it there downfall or not.
I'm not sure about the timeline situation though,changing the Hillary scanario because as far as i can see feminine, male what ever gender they are they are still working for the power figures.

The problem with this earth is that we have been taken over by an alien force that thrives on power,greed and control, in a perfect world there would be no control over others but a union of such where everyone is equal.
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:16 PM   #36
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The sad thing is this: yes, we do have more than a two party system, but unfortunately or bought and paid for media only covers the "chosen" candidates. Note the lack of mainstream coverage that Ron Paul received. Plus, has he ever been allowed in any televised debate? It is more than obvious that we are shown what they want to show us and; therefore, our choices are limited to the two that they give us (more or less).

It's like a parent who offers their little girl a choice of the blue dress or the pink one. Maybe the little girl want to wear jeans but that's not really an option. With the electoral college, even if the little girl picks the blue dress the parent can give her the pick one because, well, majority rules.

Please pardon the extreme use of analogy.
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:35 PM   #37
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Could Clinton still come back? Internet buzzes with rumours Biden will be replaced by Hillary as Obama's running mate

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...ning-mate.html

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The internet is buzzing today with the rumour that Barack Obama's gaffe-prone running mate Joe Biden will drop out of the race for health reasons - to be replaced by Hillary Clinton.

John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate has created so much interest in the Republicans that Mr Obama will have to make a radical move to regain momentum, the argument goes.


Mrs Clinton could be just the key. Mr Biden, who had surgery in 1998 to repair two brain aneurysms, would drop out after the vice presidential debates due to be held on October 2, according to the claims - leaving the way open for the former First Lady.
Today, there was a man arrested near Obamas home who was "looking for a job"

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Authorities say a man arrested near Barack Obama's Chicago home told police officers he wanted to speak with the presidential hopeful about getting a job.

...

when police searched his car, they found a .40 caliber pistol, a bulletproof vest and ammunition. Sengstacke was charged with unlawful use of a weapon by a felon and criminal trespassing on state land.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/...ljv8XpNvcDW7oF

Keep that in mind and re-read Bill Ryans post:

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If there is a weird twist of fate and circumstances somehow conspire (or people conspire!) to enable Hillary to be on the ticket after all - then head for the hills, because we will be in trouble. The probailty of this, though, looks very low indeed. It's not zero - because weird things CAN happen - but may be less than 1%.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...96&postcount=8

If these pieces fall into place, "head for the hills" as Bill said.

Bill could you elaborate a little more if possible??

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