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Is voting third party a wasted vote?
Who is your favorite Third Party Candidate? Do you believe it is a wasted vote? Feel free to comment on any of them: Barr, McKinney, Nader, Baldwin There is more than two candidates. Voting Your Conscience for a Third Party Candidate Is Not a Wasted Vote. By Chuck Baldwin Quote:
Chuck Baldwin is a candidate for president of the United States on the Constitution Party ticket. constitutionparty.com Fighting For America's Future...It's Up To You To Protect Your Rights...Constitutional Tax Reform http://constitutionparty.com/documen...ifoldWeb_2.pdf Congressman Ron Paul Endorses Chuck Baldwin 9/22/2008 http://constitutionparty.com/documents/FFAmericaTrifoldWeb_2.pdf campaignforliberty.com Ron Paul Interview about Bailouts and Inflation on CNN 10/17/2008 Congressman Davy Crockett...NOT YOURS TO GIVE...Limiting Government Powers http://www.constitutionparty.com/documents/Crockett_CPweb_.pdf Make a Statement to the PTB that you are not satisfied with your choices...VOTE THIRD PARTY! Last edited by peaceandlove; 11-25-2008 at 11:14 AM. |
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Re: Is voting third party a wasted vote?
hi there, thanks for the post!
I do not feel that voting 3rd party would be a wasted vote, As most of us here are well aware, our votes dont really count, sad but true, however, I think the PTB really do see what the votes would have looked like before being rigged, and seeing how many people voted 3rd party, would be a bit of a wake up call to them.... maybe? lol everyone american could vote 3rd party, and when the polls started showing... no 3rd party candidate would be shown to be winning, regardless of how many voted that way. So, even if the votes wont help elect who the ppl feel should be elected, the people still made a huge statement, imho. It is absolutley CRAZZZYYY to me, that a huge majority of americans have no clue there are other candidates besides the 2 puppets that get all the coverage. and then......... when I mention this to ppl, a very few have said.. "yeah, but they wouldnt have a chance" ... YEAH, cuz they get No coverage!!!! and plus its rigged, but still... the ppl should know. vote 3rd party, unless your not going to vote at all........ in which case id also understand. lol dictatorship disguised as a democracy... the worst kind. |
10-19-2008, 12:37 PM | #4 |
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In The Netherlands we have a parliament consisting of 14 parties.
They have to come to an agreement on many things. It works...it is a true democracy as far as a democracy can work. Poldermodel, google the word and see what you coem up with. Might be interesting for many to read up on.
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10-19-2008, 01:12 PM | #5 |
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Re: Is voting third party a wasted vote?
I wouldn't mind voting for somebody else than the two running for presidency now but I would certainly not vote for the the third guy you mentioned above.
Isn't there another guy to vote for who promisses peace and enough food for everybody? (And of course New World Orgasms?) I would vote for him, that is IF I was allowed to vote. |
10-19-2008, 01:34 PM | #6 |
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Re: Is voting third party a wasted vote?
Not wasted, but misguided sometimes.
In 2000, Gore would have decisively won and not had the election stolen from him if the Green Party hadn't bled votes away. The world would be a different place today if Bush had not been placed in office. So...not a big fan of the third party vote, but it is your right. IF you live in a swing state, however, be careful about your choice. Don't agree that Obama's landslide is a given, you cannot count out racism and a Bubba uprising at this point. |
10-19-2008, 01:45 PM | #7 |
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Maybe you all hadn't noticed, but voting for ANYONE is a wasted vote. Was I the only one who noticed the last 2 stolen elections? The true powers will get their agenda in place regardless of whether Repuglicant or Demo gets elected.
I am way beyond cynical on this topic. We even had voting tampering up here in idyllic New England. It certainly was much more prolific (the election fraud) than just the swing states. |
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10-19-2008, 02:56 PM | #10 |
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The sad truth is, it is too late to consider third party votes now. Should have done this in the seventies, long ago. As mentioned above, the elections now are rigged, stolen. A revolution, that's what you need now to get some change
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10-19-2008, 03:16 PM | #11 |
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amen, stefaan!
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Green Party is best of the 'third parties'
Presidential voting is only a waste of time if you feel that way about it. For me it is a once-in-a-while ritual that is performed, more about mass intention setting. Viewed this way, voting for the best candidate is what is important.
It is surprising that Cynthia McKinney, presidential candidate for the Green Party, has not been mentioned. My long time BS litmus test is whether or not September 11th can be discussed honestly by an individual or organization. That means most all politicians fail. However the Green Party has been cool enough to have a new investigation as part of the party platform for some time. And Cynthia McKinney has a proven track record not just on 9/11 truth but on other important topics too. American Blackout the movie http://www.americanblackout.com/ McKinney addresses the 9/11 Truth audience in nyc Sept 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbgThshtcyk "McKinney Grills Rumsfeld" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU Last election my presidential vote went to Leonard Peltier of the Peace & Freedom Party. Seemed like there was some beauty to voting for a person still wrongly in federal prison. Anyway, have fun voting! |
10-19-2008, 03:49 PM | #13 |
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I guess there will always be those who feel better after performing empty rituals (all religious people, and many new agers come to mind here) but I myself am too much of a realist. I think that if are par of the problem, and yes I think election fraud is a huge problem) that we are only adding fuel to the fire.
George Carlin, in his stand up routine, used to say that he didn't vote. Instead on election day he stayed home and did something else, he then pretended to touch himself, and said, "at least I have something to show for it WHEN I'M DONE!". |
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We need to reform the party system so that people who do vote third party will have a voice.
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Hi, I'm a Brit' so it's not my election BUT, you people really need to watch a documentary called "Hacking Democracy". got my copy from piratebay but it might even be on Google or Youtube.
After you see that you won't be discussing the finer points of the attributes of candidates, you'll be DEMANDING 'paper ballots or else' !. norman. |
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Here is an link to the video : Hacking Democracy (80 min)
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10-20-2008, 07:44 PM | #19 |
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I think that the waste of your vote is if you votes for one of the 2 parties, they are the same, and "the same" is being pro NWO.
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Re: Is voting third party a wasted vote?
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Another Bailout to Come after Election? www.BobBarr2008.com Dear Friend, As you may know, several of the most senior members of Congress are in tough re-election contests this fall. That's because they voted for the Bush/Obama/McCain Bailout (B.O.M.B.)! Incumbents are being (rightfully so) clobbered for giving away your tax dollars and mine. The BOMB is exploding in districts across America and it is hurting both Republicans and Democrats who voted to give billions of dollars to Wall Street. So why isn't this issue having an impact in the Presidential race? It is! Because Bob Barr, unlike his opponents, opposed the bailouts. Bob has been on news programs this past week defending his stand and pointing out that there is more to come in an Obama administration. (Given that all polls now conclude that John McCain is going to lose, I'm not going to bother addressing what he would do - - not that it would be any different.) In federal races where incumbents voted for the BOMB challengers are gaining ground. As this race for the Presidency focuses more and more on economic issues and the Bob Barr plan for our economy, he will continue to gain momentum. In Washington there is already talk of as much as $1 trillion more in the coming months to be spent. And as Republicans and Independents abandon the McCain camp, there is only one place for them to go. Bob Barr is openly appealing to everyone who recognizes that the BOMB is bad for America. That appeal is working. We simply need to spread the appeal farther and wider. There are 12 days until election day. Your gift of $12, $15, or even $25 today would help us spread that message. Click Here to contribute online or for instructions to give by check. Thank you! Sincerely, Russell Verney Campaign Manager Bob Barr for President P.S. Remember that you can obtain your very own copy of Bob's new book, Lessons in Liberty, by clicking here and providing a gift of $25 or more. Last edited by peaceandlove; 11-25-2008 at 11:15 AM. |
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Re: Is voting third party a wasted vote?
Voting is a waste of time period. Especially since elections are rigged...since the era of Jimmy Carter or much longer.
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10-24-2008, 05:31 AM | #22 |
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Re: Is voting third party a wasted vote?
So we should just accept defeat and stay home on election day? I don't think so. Call me nutty, but I think we can still salvage what is left of this "Democracy" before it's too late.
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10-24-2008, 08:54 AM | #23 |
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LOL defeat from what? I mean really? look up my other posts on THE LAW and see how we can change thins around IF YOU'RE UP TO IT. Otherwise step down and keep herding around w/ the rest. You can try to protest but that's the same as begging for w/e you want. I say LEARN THE LAW. Once you learn common law you will be able to fight and bite back.
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10-27-2008, 05:24 AM | #24 |
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The two party system is a lie from top to bottom. Gore didn't loose because... he took a dive! Gore was a place holder to block others as was Kerry. The "two party system" phrase is a kind of brainwashing. Leading you to believe there are at least two choices when in reality it's just a variation of the same spin run by the same powers. The two party system doesn't elect leaders, it elects actors. So your fundamental premise is incorrect. There will be no real substantive difference voting democrat, republican or for that matter "Natural Law Party". Further more, the "President" is constitutionally not a very important person. It's all smoke and mirrors that create the perpetual illusion that the Feds are important and being preoccupied with the federal level takes your power away from where it is the most effective, i.e. the local elections. Think of what might change if you where mayor or governor or city council rep or state senator or judge etc.. Find the best local candidate or exclude the democrat/republican/natural law and pick randomly from the rest. If only a democrat and republican are running in a local election, pick the one that's not currently in office. Never reelect a politician, it is the seed of corruption. The Illuminati depend on the dependable. That's why they go to such effort to make you think "Seniority" is so important in your congressional representative. That's why they try so hard to limit us the two manageable candidates. They can't corrupt a new crop every couple of years. Truth would find its way back to the people if politicians where turned over every election.
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I keep hearing about how we need to change things and get active...ect...ect.TOO LATE.The avg joe was taken out of the equation years ago.Some still think that a current candidate can make a diff or have an impact.WRONG.They just get assimilated by K street and the 2 billion dollars of lobbyist money that buys the govts policies every year.
John D Rockefeller Sr.-"Anyone can be bought for the right price, and it is far smaller than you can imagine." |
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