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[BROOK]

I guess I will direct that question to his thread...but you all get the idea

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Someone even went so far as to attack his character.

That person then went on to claim that he is an emanation of Zeus incarnated on Earth... hmmm God-complex anyone?

I want Jacks thread back.. put it in the 'Subscription Only Section' nobody looks there anyway.

Karen's thread on 'what happened to Jack's thread' has comments disabled! There was only one thing in your post I wanted to comment on karen: the bit that said "members who promote their own philosophy will be unsubscribed"
How can one even have a discussion here without espousing their own 'philosophy'?

eXchanger, Brook, futureeyes, Jack... pm me with constructive online revenue venture ideas and advice anytime. I am here to LEARN all ways of maximising my potential to SERVE others.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Luminari

That person then went on to claim that he is an emanation of Zeus incarnated on Earth... hmmm God-complex anyone?

I want Jacks thread back.. put it in the 'Subscription Only Section' nobody looks there anyway.

Karen's thread on 'what happened to Jack's thread' has comments disabled! There was only one thing in your post I wanted to comment on karen: the bit that said "members who promote their own philosophy will be unsubscribed"
How can one even have a discussion here without espousing their own 'philosophy'?

eXchanger, Brook, futureeyes, Jack... pm me with constructive online revenue venture ideas and advice anytime. I am here to LEARN all ways of maximising my potential to SERVE others.

I agree whole heartedly

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Luminari

That person then went on to claim that he is an emanation of Zeus incarnated on Earth... hmmm God-complex anyone?

potential to SERVE others.

JZEUS

[BROOK]

I didn't want to point fingers...but ....

[Luminari]

Yes respect to Tone3Jaguar aka "Zeus" you are a valued member of the forum as is everyone.. just try and understand your recent thread from everyone else's perspective, it is certainly a bold claim.. which you are entitled to.

Thats what makes freedom of speech and interacting with other people so great and FUN!

No seriously, please dont be upset with me for making such an obvious commentary, If I told you I was really Osiris you might be a tiny bit amused.

We are all gods.. only rare few of us ever awaken to that.

PEACE

[blastawaycas]

HALFWAY ROUND THE WORLD
WHAT DO YOU SEE
LOOK UP AT THE SKY
THE VERY SAME AS ME

STARS AND SUN
MOON AND WIND
THE POWER TO HEAL
NO RIGHT TO STEAL
NO RIGHT TO KILL
OR LIE AND HATE
SNIPERS ON ROOFTOPS
LIEING IN WAIT

MANKIND IS ONE WAY
THAT IS A FACT
ONE WAY TO EXTINCTION
A RUNAWAY TRAIN
A PROJECTILE OFF COURSE

CAN WE CHANGE IT
I THINK SO
MY SOLUTION BEHOLD
PUT WOMEN IN CHARGE
LET THEM TAKE COMMAND
DOWNING STREET
THE WHITEHOUSE
ARMIES AND NAVIES
IN EVERY LAND

I KNOW YOU WILL LAUGH
SCOFF AT MY WILL
BUT MY SOLUTION IS SOUND
WOMEN DON'T KILL
WOMEN DON'T CHEAT
THEY WON'T START A SCRAP
THEY MAY NAG YOU
BERATE YOU
MAYBE A BITCH SLAP

THE NUCLEAR BUTTON
WILL NEVER BE PRESSED
THEY LOOK GOOD ON TELLY'
ALWAYS WELL DRESSED
DIPLOMACY WILL ALWAYS
BE THE ORDER OF THE DAY
HIGH STREET SHOPPING
SPENDING YOUR PAY

BUT A WOMAN WOULD NEVER
CAUSE HOLOCAUST
WARS AND FAMINE
CHILDREN AND LOST
HUNGER AND HORROR
WOULD BE A THING
OF THE PAST


KINDEST REGARDS DAVE CASTER

[BROOK]

Point in case...it was his attack of Jack that was unfounded, and without merit. Jack has been on this forum for a very long time...his contribution to this forum has been very enlightening...I value his input as I'm sure others do, and recoginize that there was no need to attack in that manner...hence the reason for this thread

[Dantheman62]

[BROOK]

I just want to get back to the meaning of this thread...and that's to find solutions...not find reasons to sit idle, while the PTB set the tone...we have to get things resolved, and the best way to do that is to find ways to combat the problems, and Network to get the problems resolved in a positive way...Jack was on that track...if you cannot see that then you must be in that frame of wallowing in the muck...you need to get out of it and start working to resolve the issues.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Jack...you're looking a little flat

[judykott]

Dan you crack me up

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Luminari

I want Jacks thread back.. put it in the 'Subscription Only Section' nobody looks there anyway.

Karen's thread on 'what happened to Jack's thread' has comments disabled! There was only one thing in your post I wanted to comment on karen: the bit that said "members who promote their own philosophy will be unsubscribed"
How can one even have a discussion here without espousing their own 'philosophy'?

eXchanger, Brook, futureeyes, Jack... pm me with constructive online revenue venture ideas and advice anytime. I am here to LEARN all ways of maximising my potential to SERVE others.[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Jack and I chatted about his project today, and we thought it might be best to just start a new thread when he gets a proper write up done. I think the biggest problem was his choice of subject line. He told me it's like instead of giving a person a fish, teaching them to fish.

What? Comments were disabled? Maybe because I posted it in announcements. Gee I didn't know that - duh. No wonder no one ever replied to any of those announcements I made. I just didn't know where his thread had been before it was moved.

Yes, PM me too about any ideas about making some money yesterday. I just want to work from my home office. I love to do research - ask me a question and I'm off to find the answer. [Except sports - I don't care for the spirit of competition - I like cooperation and helping, not beating the pants off someone or some team.]

I will accept any help, ideas, brainstorming to soften up those guidelines a little bit - cause I am running out of steam on this volunteering for the last 10 or15 years. And then we could present the finished product to Kerry for her approval - she's got enough on her plate.

Love is us,
Karen

[Dantheman62]

BRING BACK JACK CAMPAIGN GOING GREAT--THANKS TO YOU

The Bring Back Jack campaign is in full swing—thanks to folks like you! Jack’s story should air on a broadcast of “60 Minutes” at the end of this month.

Citing what we know are trumped up charges, the Bush administration has placed Jack on “administrative leave” from his job as moderator.

Bush and his forum-industry friends are retaliating against Jack, the moderator.

Jack has filed a lawsuit against Bush for his illegal retaliatory actions. In the lawsuit, Jack’s attorney, Jason Huber, alleges that two Bush officials, John Caylor and John Correll, were instrumental in developing a plot to punish Jack for exposing problems in the forum. CAYLOR HAS RECENTLY RESIGNED! MAYBE HE DIDN’T WANT TO TALK TO “60 MINUTES.”

For more on what you can do to help Jack, and for pictures of our January action on Jack’s behalf, click here.

Also, the Friends of the Forum Coalition will have information on more you can do for the Bring Back Jack campaign at F-Day (see below), so please come out. JACK IS GOING TO GET AN AWARD AT THIS EVENT!

www.HaHaHa/dantheman.comedy/LOL

[BROOK]

He's got a full campaign going on...here are some of the
Logos on tee shirts

his campaign speech

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by BROOK

I guess I will direct that question to his thread...but you all get the idea

I guess that was a bad idea...he took what I said as a personal stab...which it was not meant to be...seems he's been having trouble on his thread...and took my question as a part of the troubles he was having...it was truly not meant that way... Guess I got between him and someone else who were having trouble and he took it the WRONG way. I don't even know what the WATCHER was all bent out of shape for

See what I mean about this stuff...you ask a simple question and it gets all blown out of proportion.

[Northern Boy]

After reading this thread I ventured to Mary Elizabeth Crofts site and found this piece she wrote in October of last year , It ties in very well with what some of the members here are saying . so I thought I`d post it here


Here We Go, Again.

A fellow sent me a link to Conscious Media Network which is interviews with people who tell us about the latest psychology, science, healing techniques, etc. – all fascinating, ‘good’ news. I truly enjoy this website. One can choose to whom to listen for 1/2 to 1 hour or so. Brilliant interviewer; brilliant website: consciousmedianetwork.com

The picture I saw at the first of this video seemed to be one from Nazi concentration camps – bodies strewn into pits… you’ve seen them… we’ve all seen them. I scanned the video … a few minutes at the beginning, a few minutes here and there, and the last several minutes, waiting for the solution to all the horrors this video swore we were all about to encounter. There was none. The entire video was “fear propaganda”. Someone had hacked this lovely, enlightening, often amusing, interview website. So, I rang them and emailed them to apprise them that their site had been hacked and, it seemed, I was the only one who knew this.

Regina, the beautiful woman who does the interviews, responded: ”Yes, we did put it up in response to viewer requests. A couple of them are rather highly connected (former MI6 and CIA) and felt it important to put it up with a warning, which we did do. I have some serious reservations about it as well as it leaves one feeling hopeless, which is not what we generally do. This is why we said on the page that we have no way of verifying the source. Still…..the question is “Is there truth in it?” Perhaps another question is “Even if there is truth in it, do we need to know?” Please let me know your opinion on both of those questions, I would appreciate it.”

Her most alarming comment … did you notice it? … was, “… in response to viewer requests, a couple of whom are rather highly connected - former MI-6 and CIA.” This jumped out at me and my first question to her was, “How do you know they are “former”?” I suspect they are on Goebbels’ team. [Goebbels was the Nazi propaganda expert who had learned from Bernays (Freud's nephew) about how to manipulate the people simply by using fear. They knew that when people are in a state of fear, they are highly suggestible and obedient]

Here is what so many people are missing: We create that which is on our minds and which is connected to an emotion – any emotion – because all emotions boil down to either ‘fear’ or ‘love’ and it doesn’t matter which. If emotion is involved, we will manifest that which is on our minds, whether we want it or do NOT want it.

The propagandists want, on our minds, that which THEY want. So, they toss out precisely what they want us to think about. Whether we agree with it, disagree with it, fear it, love it, whatever, they do NOT care, as long as it is in our minds. Television is the best means by which they repetitiously instill what they want us to spend our time thinking about. Presently, I notice they want us to think that we have a choice in the matter of the next CEO of the corporation called USA, Inc. which has absolutely nothing to do with us because the CEO will be “appointed” by the psychopathocracy, not “elected” by the people of a country with a similar name.

In my article, “The 144,000″, I mention that if one is not part of the solution, he remains part of the problem, by continuing to promote, i.e.: cause people to think about, what the psychopathocracy wants us to think. (see the definition of psychopath: “… has deficits or deviations in several areas: interpersonal relationships, emotion, and self-control.” (All corporations have been proven, brilliantly, in the documentary film, “Corporation”, to be psychopathic. Most likely, so are the “suits” who live by their policies.) So, these are NOT people whom we want suggesting to us where to put our attention.

Only when we stop giving these psychopaths our power, will they stop doing what they do. They NEED us to create for them that which they cannot. They have neither the numbers nor the frequency/vibration to create for themselves. (They also have not the means to create commercial energy – something we all know). They are emotionless; and emotion is required in order to create. They NEED our attention, our energy, our time! They NEED us to keep thinking about what we do NOT want so that we will create that which is on our minds which is only what THEY want. If we watch TV, if we react to their threats, if we believe in Revelations, they will get what they want – FROM US. They are using our unique gift of emotion in order to get us to give them what they want. If we comply, if we fall for this deception, we are digging our own graves. We already know these ‘people’ cannot be trusted, so why promote what they want us to do for them? Why do their dirty work for them? If we bumped into a psychopath in the street, we would walk away from him, not tell the next passer-by that which he has spewed out to us. Yet, this is precisely what is happening every time someone sends an email full of the nonsense that these aberrant entities are propounding, if we do not offer a solution to go with it. Since the solution is: not to send the email in the first place, let’s stop all this nonsense which continues to waste people’s time, attention, energy, and emotion not to mention putting it out into cyberspace where anyone can happen upon it. This stuff is tantamount to ‘child porn’, in fact, worse, because child porn is just another promotion of the psychopaths, via those whose minds were open to it. It is the pervert who created it; all the psychopaths did was to inject the concept, via propaganda, into his mind. Same as those who sell drugs to kids. The drug-pusher did it but at the behest of the psychopaths who are the real promoters of the drug biz…. same with kids shooting kids… well, the list is endless.

When will people catch onto How the Mind Works, How Energy Works, What Causes the Manifestation of the Physical? The mere fact that I am giving this matter my time, attention, energy, and emotion, right now, is contrary to the entire point I am making. What a conundrum! Yet, I feel as if it is required of me in order to get through to unconscious people – those who are still protesting that which the psychopaths WANT us to protest. I’m not suggesting we remain unaware; I am suggesting that we notice it and move onto where WE want to be. Do not allow anyone to cause you to deviate from your path. If we truly know who we are, none of this will affect us; we’ll simply be able to say “no” and walk away.

Abraham uses a great analogy. I am at a buffet for a meal and I notice that lima beans are being served. I hate lima beans. Do I rant and rave and complain and then get every patron in the place to sign a petition to stop the restaurant from serving lima beans? Or do I simply pass them by knowing that they are not for me and choose another vegetable? Some people actually WANT lima beans – believe it or not – so lima beans are fine … FOR THEM. Since lima beans are not something I would choose, I do not give them my attention, my time, my energy, or my emotion.

I ask that you all think about what you are emailing and, if you do not offer a solution to whatever you suspect is “wrong”, which immediately proves you have judged the matter, aka, already given it your time, attention, energy, and emotion and, hence, a life of its own, then you remain part of the problem and, as yet, are NOT part of the solution. What is it you want? I suspect that I know what it is that most of you who pass along this dreck and arrant nonsense want. Your ego is driven by the desire to be recognized, in these cases, to be known as the one who knew first, the one who knows what is ‘really’ going on in the world, the one whom everyone will recall as, “He told me about that months ago; I sure wish I had listened to him, then.” This is grandiosity, egotism, and the scourge of what is keeping us from ascending into our higher selves. It is holding us back spiritually.

Are you quite certain that this is what you prefer? Or do you prefer simply to be rid of all this ****!? Only you can do it – by NOT giving it your attention, time, energy, and emotion. Incidentally, if you think I am exempt from this, think again. Years ago, I was as ‘guilty’ of this as the next fellow. I managed to GET OVER IT! This is how I know what is going on in the minds which have yet to make the leap into knowing who they are. Please, think through what it is YOU truly want and focus on only that. Create for yourself and your fellows, only! – not for those who intend to harm us by using, against us, our own power, talent, and creativity.

We MUST begin to function at a higher vibration/frequency than the psychopaths. Remember when your mother told you to “ignore your taunting older brother”? Well, my mother told me that and it is true; he did go away. I’m not suggesting that he quit taunting me, I am saying that I essentially rose above it; I began to function at a higher vibration where he simply could not reach me. Nothing needed to be said, no protests, no fights. It was truly a win for me to realize that anyone who would treat his little sister like that was emotionally unsound. My knowing this afforded me the emotional resolve to shift ME – not him. No doubt, he is still doing what he does best but I don’t know about it because the result of my shift to a higher frequency was, simply, his disappearance from my life.

For those of you who still think that we have to tell as many people as we can about what horrors are going on, I put forth, for your consideration, this: What we see going on in the world is the RESULT of our thinking. We don’t get to vote on the way things are; we already did. Do people have a right to know? Yes, however, since we don’t know which of the billions of possible future outcomes will manifest, it is ludicrous to presume the worst. Since we do know that fear of circumstances causes manifestation of more fearful circumstances (think ‘downward spiral’) than if there were no fear, let’s put our attention onto how we want things to be. We can change our minds about anything and, thereby, alter the outcome. If you are familiar with Lynne McTaggart, you’ll know that the instant we make any choice, billions of future possibilities are eliminated and billions more are created. Remote Viewing was developed by the military for THEIR purposes – NOT altruistic purposes. Knowing that infinite possibilities already exist, what the military did was to have participants’ minds, individually, focus on the outcome which the military wanted to create in order to suit their agenda. Since more people focusing on one thing meant more energy, it increased the possibility of that particular outcome. This tells us that we can do the same thing. This is quantum physics/mechanics. The observer observes not what is observed but, rather, what the observer brings to the observation. The more agreement we have, the stronger we are. Everything is the way it is because someone said so and someone else agreed to it. So, when we have rogues out there putting their attention onto an outcome that does not suit us, they are working for the psychopaths, not for us. We are all responsible for our experiences. Make your experiences what YOU want, not what the psychopaths want.

We WILL prevail. We must learn and know that it can be done ONLY from a spiritual, vibrational perspective. We must rise to a level where the psychopaths simply cannot go. What we intend for ourselves has NOTHING to do with them. It has to do with what WE want and where WE want to go. “Ignore them and they’ll go away” sounds trite, simplistic, and juvenile, yet, it is accurate… with one caveat. We do have work to do, yet, it is ON OURSELVES. We must quit giving our resources to them and start to use them for ourselves … whatever it takes to shift our emotional, spiritual, mental, and vibrational space/time to where/when they cannot go.
Let’s stay focused on what WE want - not what ‘they’ want from us. We must get our attention off commerce. Let’s all do what we love to do and serve our fellow man by doing it. Trust me, somehow, we’ll be taken care of …. and we don’t need to know how.

My final plea: Everything…. EVERYthing that has EVER been planned, attempted, and implemented, thus far, has NOT accomplished our intent of healing the problems of this planet. The psychopaths are STILL running the world AND most of us. Is it time to quit digging deeper in the same hole and think laterally for a solution? The ‘everything’ I mention refers to intending to change something outside ourselves – people, circumstances, institutions, policies, legislation, …. even nature. Shall we now take a look at the cause? Shall we now look to the true point of power? Those are WE. We are at cause and we are the power; nothing and no one else. We are the only entities which can be changed and we are the only ones who can implement said change. Hop to it!

Mary Croft - October 2008

[BROOK]

I could not agree more Giving your attention to it and doing nothing to solve the situation is the worse thing you can do

[avyaktam]

I think you make a good point there boy (or is it Mary?).

One of our strongest advantages is that we can resonate on a higher frequency than the psychopaths. A lot of the energy they use is stolen from humanity.
(see all the ritual sacrifice etc.) If we could stop this they just would fall flat.
Still we have to be informed on what is going on. I guess we have to learn to become detached in doing so.

And it is a bizarre phenomenon that when somebody sincerely tries to do something creative/positive he very often is attacked. Maybe it is the old trying to preserve itself.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by avyaktam

I think you make a good point there boy (or is it Mary?).

One of our strongest advantages is that we can resonate on a higher frequency than the psychopaths. A lot of the energy they use is stolen from humanity.
(see all the ritual sacrifice etc.) If we could stop this they just would fall flat.
Still we have to be informed on what is going on. I guess we have to learn to become detached in doing so.

And it is a bizarre phenomenon that when somebody sincerely tries to do something creative/positive he very often is attacked. Maybe it is the old trying to preserve itself.

Bizarre indeed....and your right...they would fall flat

Being informed is one thing...consumed is another... especially without a solution

[Jack]

Thank you guys for your support, really, thank you.

I'm delighted that there are those of you who see where im going with this. Like ive said to anyone who has contacted me already, the whole idea of paying the €1 which seems to be the sole reason for any controversy was to express commitment to the project. It had a nice ring to it. Join the €1 club and you are joining a club of people who's main focus in life is to become succesfull in many different areas which i feel is neccesary for us to effect any change on this planet at this moment in time. Money is essential right now, and hopefully that will change but until it does we must use it as a tool to get us where we want to go.

My first article for anyone who joined the club would concentrate on what they themselves can do to make an extra few hundred euros a week both using the internet and the non virtual world. Which in some cases would only mean buying a few add newspapers and basically just opening yourself up to the opportunities that are abundant if looked at with the correct attitude.

I want to help people become succesfull and teach them what i have found to work. And anyone who lives by the philosophy of being positive, truthfull and always helping others will open themselves up to the unlimited possibilities and the natural flow of the universe. Enough people thinking and acting like this will be a force to be reckoned with and no recession could stop them heading in a positive direction.

This project will continue. Anyone who has had doubts about it soon had those doubts fade away when i presented my case a little bit clearer.

Thanks for your help guys, thats the whole point of this. To help one another and to be there no matter what as we try as a team to get the ground crew moving in the direction they feel is right in their hearts.

@ Dantheman & Brook, lol! Thanks for your help guys, and thanks for the campaign posters


Namaste

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Jack

Thank you guys for your support, really, thank you.

I'm delighted that there are those of you who see where im going with this. Like ive said to anyone who has contacted me already, the whole idea of paying the €1 which seems to be the sole reason for any controversy was to express commitment to the project. It had a nice ring to it. Join the €1 club and you are joining a club of people who's main focus in life is to become succesfull in many different areas which i feel is neccesary for us to effect any change on this planet at this moment in time. Money is essential right now, and hopefully that will change but until it does we must use it as a tool to get us where we want to go.

My first article for anyone who joined the club would concentrate on what they themselves can do to make an extra few hundred euros a week both using the internet and the non virtual world. Which in some cases would only mean buying a few add newspapers and basically just opening yourself up to the opportunities that are abundant if looked at with the correct attitude.

I want to help people become succesfull and teach them what i have found to work. And anyone who lives by the philosophy of being positive, truthfull and always helping others will open themselves up to the unlimited possibilities and the natural flow of the universe. Enough people thinking and acting like this will be a force to be reckoned with and no recession could stop them heading in a positive direction.

This project will continue. Anyone who has had doubts about it soon had those doubts fade away when i presented my case a little bit clearer.

Thanks for your help guys, thats the whole point of this. To help one another and to be there no matter what as we try as a team to get the ground crew moving in the direction they feel is right in their hearts.

@ Dantheman & Brook, lol! Thanks for your help guys, and thanks for the campaign posters


Namaste

A natural flow of the universe.....is what we need...this is the part that struck me the most in your thread Jack
Becoming a force to be reckoned with was the second thing...strength
We need to get strong to combat the forces we're up against

[Lunaris]

Ahahahahahhaaa!!!

You guys are hilarious!!

I knew the second jack posted that thread he would get pooped on huge!

It took you guys this long to see how negative and close minded this forum is???

If i could of cancelled my membership i would of..if i could of taken my donations back i would of...

Most of the time everyone just ignores me anyway...

Jack is my first friend on this forum...and the first and pretty much only one that has even cared to listen to me and care...

So yeah...

I guess i am just waiting for my membership to lapse out...

I even tried donating the rest of my membership time but i got ignored on that too!

Welcome to project denial!!!

Its so fun!

[Dantheman62]

Well first of all Lunaris, Jack didn't get pooped on huge like you put it, only by 2 or 3.
I don't care if the forum is negative or close minded, I think that's really in the eyes of the beholder honestly.
I'm here to learn as much as possible because 8 months ago this was all new to me.
I see you've posted 143 times, I've been ignored a lot more than 143 times and I don't lose any sleep over it.
You can call it project denial, I call it project wake up.
For me it's all about being one step ahead of the norm.

[Jack]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Well first of all Lunaris, Jack didn't get pooped on huge like you put it, only by 2 or 3.
I don't care if the forum is negative or close minded, I think that's really in the eyes of the beholder honestly.
I'm here to learn as much as possible because 8 months ago this was all new to me.
I see you've posted 143 times, I've been ignored a lot more than 143 times and I don't lose any sleep over it.
You can call it project denial, I call it project wake up.
For me it's all about being one step ahead of the norm.

I dont think she meant it like that man, a lot of people were confused when the post came down, ive got more people asking where it went and wanting to be a part of it then ive had complaints. But the idea is still there and im still going to persue it. But with the help of the people who have already been in touch with me im sure we can make this project even better if we work together at perfecting it. Its an open source kinda thing, a work in motion.