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Old 02-28-2010, 07:02 PM   #1
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Has anyone read the Matrix 5 books (or any of the Matrix books by Val) from the Leading Edge International Research Group web site, hosted by Val Valerian. I would be interested in your thoughts on this subject.
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:25 PM   #2
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itís on my long list of Ďto readí books Ė although Iíve not purchased it yet as itís far too expensive even second hand. Any foot notes would be appreciated.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:01 PM   #3
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itís on my long list of Ďto readí books Ė although Iíve not purchased it yet as itís far too expensive even second hand. Any foot notes would be appreciated.
I have all the Matrix books,, but the M5 books is in a whole new arena. It can be very upsetting.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:03 PM   #4
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I have all the Matrix books,, but the M5 books is in a whole new arena. It can be very upsetting.
Horizons, I have it..but still not read it. Tell us something more...
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:22 PM   #5
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I have all the Matrix books,, but the M5 books is in a whole new arena. It can be very upsetting.
I am real intrigued to know more about this.


Thank you K626. All you wrote resonates with me as itís what Iíve intuitively known all my life even though I cannot always articulate it. As a child I knew without doubts that everything around me was not real. I never bought into religion, money or authority for obvious reasons and as far as reincarnation goes, Iíve always saw that as yet another prison system. This books sounds very interesting and I would love to read it but probably when finances allow.

Any more info from the book would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:06 PM   #6
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itís on my long list of Ďto readí books Ė although Iíve not purchased it yet as itís far too expensive even second hand. Any foot notes would be appreciated.
In 1999, the same year the Matrix V Project began, the public was shown the movie Matrix in theaters, which gave a glimpse into the possibilities inherent in technological manipulation of society and individual reality. It left a lot of people thinking about the reality in which we exist on this planet. But, there is a real Matrix that is even larger than anything even hinted at in the movie - a Matrix in which human experience on Earth is but a small part of a much larger picture - beyond society, beyond the planet, beyond the alien paradigms, beyond religion and beyond all belief systems on the 3rd and 4th densities. The "big questions" that people have on this planet - why we're here, who we really are and what life is really about - are not questions that cultures have answers for. There are plenty of "new age" paradigms around, but none of them have any real answers either, which is why people are stuck on "the eternal search" for truth. They won't find it within their Earth-bound personality, within all the paradigms that permeate all cultures on the planet that depend on identification with body and gender, and they won't find it in the paradigms of religion. Where is it, and what is really going on here on Earth?

One of the keys to discovery of the Ultimate Matrix is out-of body experience and long-time observation of what is actually out there, who we really are, and what it means to incarnate in a body here on Earth. Matrix V is all about your Higher Self, who you really are, your journey of self-discovery on this planet, and what's really going on, both here on Earth and in the density levels which lie just outside our 3rd density level. It is not based on beliefs or belief systems. The scope of the material in Matrix V exceeds that of any existing literature, which will become quite evident to the reader. If you identify with your body or your gender, or are comfortable in your "human" existence, do not buy Matrix V. You will not be ready for this advanced material, which is geared toward Advanced, Dominant and Final 3rd density incarnational perspectives. Matrix V is, no doubt, one of the most spiritually enlightening books ever printed, and at the same time to the factions that control this planet - and control anything anywhere - this is the most dangerous information ever released to mankind because it discusses who we really are, what the polarity-based control structures are really about, and the truth about incarnational experience on Earth. It is also a book that concerns accurate information about what is beyond the 3rd density and higher, based on direct observational explorations that have lasted more than a decade. It is a book that deals with the big questions in life - who we are, and why we are here.

It can be safely said that it accurately describes, based on direct observational experience, the nature of the Higher Self and human incarnations, ancient manipulation of human DNA , the genderization of the human body, the mechanics of incarnation and detailed information on the realms which we perceive when we become independent of the body after physical death. Matrix V, in effect, decodes earth reality, as well as the reality beyond the earth experience, in a way that has never been achieved in human literature. Are you a "man" or a "woman"? No. You are an androgynous being using a genderized body for experience. Only "men" and "women" buy into the cultural belief, which promotes identification with the body and gender, and they will continue to revel in Earth life and seek gratification and fulfillment of the DNA programming to which they have become slaves. The actual beginning point of these explorations started experientially with actual exploration of other densities slightly out of phase with ours, using out of body travel, however, the scope of this book far exceeds anything ever completed by Robert Monroe, author of three famous books on the subject, Journeys Out Of the Body, Far Journeys and Ultimate Journey. In fact, Matrix V Gold Edition is so far beyond the material Robert Monroe or any other explorer has ever released that it constitutes a major key for discovery for those Higher Self incarnations that are on the verge of spiraling out of this reality altogether. Think we're kidding? See link below to 32 pages of reader comments.

If you are at a position in life at this time where you seek more than what is around you in the controlled, idiotic culture we live in, more than religions, channeling, alien contactees, belief systems and the pathetic body of knowledge on this planet, Matrix V is for you. For more than two years, we have been leaking some of the information out to the public, who have responded with questions, and a tremendous body of follow-up material has developed which enhances the main series of segments which are collectively called Information for Very Advanced, Dominant and Final Incarnations.

The Second Edition of the book came out in August 2001. It featured 146 segments with 300 Q&A on the material. After 2 years have elapsed, the 600 page third and final edition (the GOLD EDITION) was released in March 2003. Much more advanced, the book has more than 340 segments (including 50 never before published), 439 Q&A on the material and a large 862 line-item index. Matrix V GOLD EDITION is the most advanced material available on the planet for those predisposed to evolving perspectives."
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:14 PM   #7
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K626, thank you very much, I am starting to read it
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:24 PM   #8
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Get it here http://pdfdatabase.com/matrix-v-gold-edition.html

Just tried one of the links but you have to be a member so I wont bother
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:27 PM   #9
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Get it here http://pdfdatabase.com/matrix-v-gold-edition.html

Just tried one of the links but you have to be a member so I wont bother
Thanks for the link Swanny - but the membership isn't free but it's a lot less than the cost of the book. I'll keep a note of the link for later on.
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:34 PM   #10
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Found a link where you can read excerpts for those who are interested.

http://www.cco.net/~trufax/matrix5/excerpts/

http://www.cco.net/~trufax/matrix5/segments/



Also a long running thread on Matrix 5 on David Ickeís form;

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43831

Better get reading.
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:49 PM   #11
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Found a link where you can read excerpts for those who are interested.

http://www.cco.net/~trufax/matrix5/excerpts/

http://www.cco.net/~trufax/matrix5/segments/



Also a long running thread on Matrix 5 on David Ickeís form;

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43831

Better get reading.
This thread you posted has some really good info on it, and I am not finished reading it yet. It is good to read what other readers have said about the M5 project. It is truly a different kind of read. I'll have more to say later...
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:29 PM   #12
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Old 03-01-2010, 12:30 AM   #13
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there are pdfs of all the volumes floating around if you know where to look. try googling, it won't take long. in the meantime, some may find this critical review of the book pretty funny:

http://www.energygrid.com/spirit/2008/05ap-matrixv.html

This is a good review from a certain perspective. I will say the the M5 project will challenge you in new ways and make you THINK more then you might have otherwise. At this point I will not state as to the validity of the work - it is what it is - it could be the most profound work you have read or the most dangerous books ever written, or fall somewhere in-between. It is the reader must decide.
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:37 AM   #14
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there are pdfs of all the volumes floating around if you know where to look. try googling, it won't take long. in the meantime, some may find this critical review of the book pretty funny:

http://www.energygrid.com/spirit/2008/05ap-matrixv.html
i see you are also merged with your Higher Self he looks just like my Higher Self too!!
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Old 03-08-2010, 04:02 AM   #15
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"Females - The current thrust by American and other western females for domination over males is Orion Empire instigated. This is like a cat wanting to become a dog, a tree wanting to become a fish and so on. The purpose of the female gender (from the simultaneous point of view) was to have a totally different experience than the male, not to have an equal experience. This 'same experience idea is sequentially incarnating trait and seeks to undo the simultaneously incarnating path. The current female problem is one of the most serious threats to the simultaneously incarnating paths on earth today. On the other hand, it is one of the most important features of the Orion Empire and the sequentials' objective in the game.....You cannot escape the game and graduate to higher matters until you are aware of this problem and your body has overcome the alien DNA commands to 'serve the female'...

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Huh??

I must admit after my casual perusal of this material, I am a bit confused by this particular. Does this 'shim' presuppose the male experience to be the standard by which the female seeks a 'different' experience, the male being the prime reality...or what exactly is shim getting at here...

this sounds like buggery-at least this part, some of it is kind of interesting, I will say.
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Old 03-08-2010, 04:24 AM   #16
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I met some real females, not in western countries but, for example, some groups of Somali women -- females with female power, not females with male power. But this is simply bowing to the experience of polarities as i now choose to experience within the polarity of darkside and lightworker. All polarities, dualities get merged, and I suppose I simply go to a place where they do not even exist.

As a spirit who is aware of its androgynous nature I still feel a need to experience being a true feminine -- it does me no harm.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:17 AM   #18
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As I like to offer different perspectives and let Consciousness decide - I also offer this Link...

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/valerian.htm

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Old 03-10-2010, 02:24 AM   #19
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As I like to offer different perspectives and let Consciousness decide - I also offer this Link...

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/valerian.htm

"A: Whoa! Calm down! Patience! We are trying to tell you something important, and you keep asking questions. We have told you many times to communicate with each other and network and share ideas, because that is how you LEARN and PROGRESS! But, you are beginning to rely on us for all your answers, and you do not LEARN that way!!!!!!! "

SOUNDS LIKE GOOD ADVISE SO FAR...
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Yes - I agree and as I took a greater look at the Material - I found certain "Issues" with It (Matrix 5) Myself. 43% of getting it right seems about right and while I haven't read It in detail (Matrix 5) by any stretch of the word - The Impression I got was to discern very heavily with this one. A Bad recipe is a bad recipe pure and simple. Try to get most of a recipe right and see how delicious that Meal turns out - LOL...



Addtionally - It would seem that only the Rich or those who can afford the Book are on a "Final Incarnational Experience" - No ?

That said - I could not find this eBook for DL (other than bitorrent). Now while I did find outlets that would send it to Me snailmail - The Price was ridiculous and only enforced My Impression of It as posted. When I have to pay for something that will enable Me and more importantly - The Human Race - To be Free of all of this BS and finally Progress - I get Red Flags instantly...

>Steps down off soap-box<

That said - To all others willing - Do as Thou Wilst...

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Yes - I agree and as I took a greater look at the Material - I found certain "Issues" with It (Matrix 5) Myself. 43% of getting it right seems about right and while I haven't read It in detail (Matrix 5) by any stretch of the word - The Impression I got was to discern very heavily with this one. A Bad recipe is a bad recipe pure and simple. Try to get most of a recipe right and see how delicious that Meal turns out - LOL...



Addtionally - It would seem that only the Rich or those who can afford the Book are on a "Final Incarnational Experience" - No ?

That said - I could not find this eBook for DL (other than bitorrent). Now while I did find outlets that would send it to Me snailmail - The Price was ridiculous and only enforced My Impression of It as posted. When I have to pay for something that will enable Me and more importantly - The Human Race - To be Free of all of this BS and finally Progress - I get Red Flags instantly...

>Steps down off soap-box<

That said - To all others willing - Do as Thou Wilst...

...or if you were meant to have it you would find a way

Yes indeed, much discernment is needed. But then again in the day and time we live in we should discern everything.
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But then again in the day and time we live in we should discern everything.
I would even add to this by saying as You Increase - Your Discernment MUST...

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I am more interested in the beings who are above him. He talks about "Higher Self", but so far I see no reference to the All-that-is and our connection with it.
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I am more interested in the beings who are above him. He talks about "Higher Self", but so far I see no reference to the All-that-is and our connection with it.
Val did not write M5, he edited and published it, someone else going by "The Author" did. It is nothing like the other Matrix books that were by Val.
The Author does not believe in an All-That-Is. His stand is that our own Higher Self is the only god there is. And there are thousands of HS's having thousands of incarnations in the third density. When the HS is finished with this "game" it will spiral up and outta here to even higher densities for more experiences. But you would have to do a through read to really see all the info, which he says comes from his HS.
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Val did not write M5, he edited and published it, someone else going by "The Author" did. It is nothing like the other Matrix books that were by Val.
The Author does not believe in an All-That-Is. His stand is that our own Higher Self is the only god there is. And there are thousands of HS's having thousands of incarnations in the third density. When the HS is finished with this "game" it will spiral up and outta here to even higher densities for more experiences. But you would have to do a through read to really see all the info, which he says comes from his HS.
Perhaps something new is afoot, something that has never before been achieved in all the previous cycles of static -- an all knowing, all loving all powerful being, innocent AND wise, e.g., us. Perhaps no longer swept up in the cycle of re-birth of static.

In all my hundreds of hours of "looking" I have not yet met one higher self or bigger more powerful being (no matter how enlightened) who did not have polarity issues and traumatic incidents, right up to the point of their first individuation from the static. Have seen only false, polarized gods-unto-themselves. I think all of us played that role.

Perhaps I have to look further back.
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