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The Big Collapse Could Be Very Near
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SUNDAY, MAY 31, 2009 The Federal Reserve appears to be increasingly nervous about the long term bond market. This is serious. How panicked are they? After leaking a story on Friday, they are back at it on Sunday. The Federal Reserve leaked to CNBC's Steve Liesman on Friday that they weren't targeting long rates. Why such a leak? Probably because the Fed did not want to appear impotent in controlling the long rate. So they put out the word through Liesman that they weren't targetting the long rate. Can you imagine what would happen to the markets if it sensed long rates were beyond the control of the Fed? The Fed can of course print money to buy up every Treasury bond in existence, but the inflationary ramifications would be Zimbabwe like, and crush the dollar on international currency markets. Are we near the phase where all hell breaks loose? I have never even answered, maybe, to this question before. It's always been, "no." Now it's maybe. Continues: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com...very-near.html This article posted at Solari.com/blog Treasuries, Dollar ‘Only Game in Town’ as China Buys By Daniel Kruger and Susanne Walker June 1 (Bloomberg) Excerpt: Quote:
This at Market Ticker: The News Unreported In The US: Turbo Timmy Tuesday, June 2. 2009 Quote:
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Thanks for the update, Peace and Love. I have been monitoring the rapid rise of our Canadian dollar since there are a few things I want to order from the US .
It's difficult to keep our minds focused on everything that is happening. Too many other news items come up and distract us from the economic developments that we should be following. |
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It has begun...
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It begun a while ago (last year).
What is happening is more people are realising. Many who were deluded into thinking a recovery was possible still have not realised. A.. |
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Funny thing i posted that the Chinese would laugh at the Americans this morning . Looks like i was on the money here is what I posted this morning in
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12875 Benjamin Fulfords Bog I have to wonder at what they figure the Chinese are going to do , they must know by now that the U.S. will never be able to pay the money they owe in Treasury Bonds to China and china I feel are going to laugh in their faces . The only thing I can think of is they are going to start trading technology for cash or to buy back those bonds I have to wonder if he enjoy`s being the comedy relief during these troubled times perhaps he could borrow a clown suit from McDonalds to help him get his message across Last edited by Northern Boy; 06-02-2009 at 10:35 PM. |
06-03-2009, 01:25 AM | #6 |
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Geithner is already a bozo. He just needs makeup, a red nose and a clown suit.
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From the celebrated Karl Denninger, who was awarded the Accuracy in Media 2009 Grassroots Media Award: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...karl+denninger I love his acceptance speech...
Open Note To Tim Geithner Tuesday, June 2. 2009 In light of China's view of the "safety" of their dollar-denominated investments, your several-times removed predecessor has some words of wisdom for you: Quote:
Do we really need to repeat history in order to learn from it? SOURCE: http://market-ticker.denninger.net/a...-Geithner.html Con of the Century FED UP USA: http://www.fedupusa.org/ Last edited by peaceandlove; 06-03-2009 at 07:25 PM. |
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Does the 'fun' begin today?Look out below?
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No kidding! Here in the US I would guess that more than half if not most Americans think we just hit a little recession and the worst is over. It has not even begun...all those loans coming up for default will hit big this summer/fall.
It is really something to see how shell-shocked some people are when they realize how serious the economic situation is. I realized a long time ago that the US government is bought and paid for by the corporations and wealthy - both political parties are pretty much the same. Folks keep trying to justify Obama's actions as hiring crooks to catch crooks, but I don't see any evidence of that. Geithner and Summers are part of the Wall Street problem and they're foxes guarding the henhouse. The trillions of dollars transferred from the taxpayers into the greedy fat hands of a few bankers is unforgiveable. They spent it on bonuses and lavish parties and yachts, not jobs or services. Just imagine all the great things those trillions (plus the trillions spent on war) could be invested in...becoming a leader in clean energy, creating jobs with a WPA type program and catching up to the rest of the world with Universal Health care. |
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Do you think NAPTHA was a bait and switch scam? We'll buy your goods if you buy our monopoly money! Oops, it's not worth anything. Whose going to be laughing next? I read somewhere about China taking over our National Parks. The CON is ON! Oh, here it is at ABOVE TOP SECRET: National Parks http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread45831/pg1 Excerpt: Quote:
Yez'm, it appears California has 220 Parks for Sale? or will they be Collateral? Schwarzenegger Plan Would Close 220 Calif. Parks By SAMANTHA YOUNG, Associated Press Writer – Fri May 29, 4:58 pm ET SACRAMENTO, Calif. – Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's budget cuts could mean the closing of up to 220 state parks, among them the home of the world's tallest tree and other attractions that draw millions of visitors. Schwarzenegger this week recommended eliminating $70 million in parks spending through June 30, 2010. An additional $143.4 million would be saved in the following fiscal year by keeping the parks closed. Article continues: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090529/...lifornia_parks Last edited by peaceandlove; 06-03-2009 at 08:14 PM. |
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well looking at it from my point of view the parks belong to the American people and if they haven`t agreed with the sale or use of them as a collateral for bad business deals . Also you have never given your government permission to use these as such and they require it to do so. I`m almost positive that that if it were to go to court the Chinese would get very angry. Arnold needs to go back to the Gym he has shown the people of California that he can`t govern. Experiment over the parks belong to the people not the government and you can`t give away what you don`t own
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Hey you should see what our reps are doing here in the state of michigan , last october our house and senate had to approve a balanced budget, our govenor jennifer grandholm said everything had to stay revenue neutral.
Lets see, we have the 2cd highest paid legislative body in the country, get elected to the house or senate 80k a year for 112 days of work , $1000.00 a month travel expenses, and after 5 years as a bonus you get free medical for the rest of your life. Yepppiee , I'm thinking about running. Here's the best part , the state government body are so talented with their 52 billion dollar state budget that they couldn't even balance it last october, so the most creative thing they could do here was raise taxes on the businesses. Oh and they gave everyone working for the state a 1% increase on their payroll just to clinch the next election. Now last december 7 months ago the state owed 1.2 billion to the feds for the unemployment bank, or borrowed money, or chinese money, or maybe it's non-printed money soon to be like pre-natal. In just 7 months time we are now at 2.15 billion to the feds. Our unemployment is 13% but if you factor in before the clinton administration's fudging the formula factors add another 8% on top of that. And I here up in the upper peninsula its in the 30%+ range. Oh yea I forgot if you are on the unemployment roles here in this state its a minimum 19 months of collecting. I ran into a guy last week at the store and he works in the small city I live in . He said he had 25 families come in and fill out change of address forms, all 25 were moving out of state. If your looking at what big government can do for you, look no further , just take a look at our democratically controlled house, senate, and governor. I really think that is why Hillary never came to this state to campaign , because it was a mirror image of what it would have been like in washington d.c. There wasn't any role model here. Legacy costs for this state in 5 years will be 10 billion dollars a year for state entitlements, think we can give california a run for their money?? By the way Texas has 2.4 times the population than michigan and their part time legislatures recieve $8000.00 a year for doing their part, the right thing, serving their state as a public servant, not a career! |
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FEVER I AM Commentary today...
WEDNESDAY, 3 JUNE 2009 Quote:
by Jim Willie, CB. Editor, Hat Trick Letter | June 2, 2009 Excerpt: Quote:
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Latvia has become the first EU country to face a sovereign debt crisis after failing to sell a single bill at a $100m (£61m) treasury auction, prompting fears of a fresh storm in Eastern Europe as capital flight tests currency pegs. By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Published: 7:52PM BST 03 Jun 2009 The central bank has been burning reserves to defend the lat in Europe’s Exchange Rate Mechanism, but markets doubt whether Latvia has the political will to carry through draconian cuts in spending – or whether such a policy even makes sense at this stage. Tremors hit bank shares in Stockholm and triggered a sharp fall in Sweden’s krona. Swedbank, SEB and other Swedish banks have $75bn of exposure to the Baltic states, and face cliff-edge losses if the pegs snap. Article continues: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...rn-Europe.html And again from Karl Denninger today: Heh Bernanke - YOU ARE A CLOWN! Wednesday, June 3. 2009 What the hell is this nonsense? Chairman Ben S. Bernanke Current economic and financial conditions and the federal budget Before the Committee on the Budget, U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, D.C. June 3, 2009 http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsev...e20090603a.htm Excerpt from Testimony by Bernanke Quote:
IF Bernanke was a true independent central banker, and IF he believed the first word that he was speaking, he would force fiscal restraint by refusing to buy any more MBS or Treasury debt. Rates would move up, but this would put a 1990s-style bond market slam-hold on President Obama's and Congressional "drunken-sailor style" spending binge. I only look at what people do - a good part of the time what people say is in fact exactly the opposite of what they're doing, because they are trying to goad you into doing something stupid so they can say "Sold To You!", sticking you with the bag. I will buy that Bernanke is serious about his so-called "urgings" when he withdraws the idiotic attempt to support both MBS and Treasury issuance. Perhaps - just perhaps - this speech is a warning - Ben has been reading some Tickers and listening to some Chinese folks, and is starting to get concerned that a bond market implosion may be in the offing - and he has no intention of being the one caught holding the bag when it blows up. Funny how it only took Ben two years beyond when I started screaming about this in public to figure it out! SOURCE: http://market-ticker.denninger.net/a...-A-CLOWN!.html Last edited by peaceandlove; 06-05-2009 at 02:34 AM. |
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Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 12:21pm HAST California will run out of cash in 14 days Pacific Business News (Honolulu) Hasta la Vista Baby! |
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