The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show

Truthsayer · 10-15-2008, 01:15 PM

Disclaimer:

I accept the existence of UFO, the crop circles and the validity of UFO videos from the Arizona Incident and Larry King July Interviews. 2008.

I also accept that there are a lot of fake UFO videos out there.

Now my beef:

According to David Wilcock whom I acknowledge as one of the more realistic UFO/Spiritual source of information out there as he always attempts to back up his words with scientific data and historical facts, he says that the Oct 14 UFO event would be a """Such a mass visitation, at this stage in our planetary game, would be an absolute tragedy — an irreversibly vast insult to the free will of the overwhelming majority of people on Earth who would see it as a horrific and terrifying event, based on their Hollywood movie conditioning.""""

According to Mike Quinsey from http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/...ke_Quinsey.htm, a channeler who has so far posted channeled messages without any scientific or data backup, he also similarly states that the UFO mothership would "been a shock to their system, over and above the normal reaction to the many sightings that have been taking place with ever increasing regularity. With all of the confusion and chaos already making people tense and worried, yet another matter of mind wrenching capability has created a degree of tension that was not envisaged."

Now the point is, what makes the ETs think that humans will be ready for First Contact 4 years later nearer to 2012?

What makes the ETs think that in 2012, humans will not have a similar fear-laden reactions as the ones they had these past few days?

The excuse of not scaring people away thus the OCT 14 no-show is simply a LAME EXCUSE!

Truthsayer · 10-15-2008, 01:23 PM

From another angle of perspective,

Yes it is true that any ETs who tried to interact with humans and incurred any negative karma will be trapped in the same cycle of rebirth and death as us.

This potential trap also applies to Gods and other Higher Beings.

In other cultures, there have been too many stories of heavenly beings being trapped in the cycle of rebirth and death after coming down to Earth to "explore and help humans."

Where do you think the story of Fallen Angels come from?

What I think happened is that the FOLs which Blossom Goodchild channel chickened out at the last minute because they fear the bad karma of causing some irreparable shock to the weak ones who have their entire belief system turned upside down.

Now the question is, if the FOLs chickened out now, what makes you think that the FOLs won't chickened out 4 years later in 2012?

Look I wanted this to happen alright? No one is more ****** off than me at seeing the fools gloating at the no-show and posting so many spam hate messages about the no-show.

Truthsayer · 10-15-2008, 01:33 PM

Now the real reason behind my beef.

Don't you all find it totally unfair that the awakened humans, which is the majority of forumers on this board, have to suffer so that the unawakened humans and Dark forces can keep their sanity?

If I was an ET commander, I wouldn't have give a damn to the unawakened humans.

Let all the unawakened humans go mad and commit suicide for all I care.

Any unawakened human who is not strong enough to face the truth deserves death and more.

But noooo, instead of worrying about the starseeds, the awakened humans who have sacrificed so much and suffered so much, those ETs worry about the unawakened humans instead.

I mean, do they get their priorities right on who to save first?

Why do us awakened humans have to suffer in order for the unawakened humans to wake up?

What kind of a stupid evolutionary logic is that?!!!

Are you guys not ****** off? I am!

Why should we suffer for the lesser souls?! HUH?!

Why should we suffer for those suckers who gloat at the non-appearance of their rescuers?

God, the irony!

10-15-2008, 01:40 PM

Moving to Project Camelot General Discussion

munkey · 10-15-2008, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthsayer

Now the real reason behind my beef.

Don't you all find it totally unfair that the awakened humans, which is the majority of forumers on this board, have to suffer so that the unawakened humans and Dark forces can keep their sanity?

If I was an ET commander, I wouldn't have give a damn to the unawakened humans.

Let all the unawakened humans go mad and commit suicide for all I care.

Any unawakened human who is not strong enough to face the truth deserves death and more.

But noooo, instead of worrying about the starseeds, the awakened humans who have sacrificed so much and suffered so much, those ETs worry about the unawakened humans instead.

I mean, do they get their priorities right on who to save first?

Why do us awakened humans have to suffer in order for the unawakened humans to wake up?

What kind of a stupid evolutionary logic is that?!!!

Are you guys not ****** off? I am!

Why should we suffer for the lesser souls?! HUH?!

Why should we suffer for those suckers who gloat at the non-appearance of their rescuers?

God, the irony!

slow up.
There are no ET commanders.
the ships are collectives and every being on the craft is in themselves part of the craft as well as being seperate from it,
They didn't show because they are not meant to show themselves yet.
It does not matter if you believe or not, weathere you are on a higher concious level or not,
They did not show because no one is ready for a large showing.
Small craft being seen every now and then is enough for now.
They are there watching.
Have a look at the sky at night and you will find a strange phenominon happening more and more.
Usually a piece of the sky looks like it has been cut out.
What do you think that might be?

possibly a craft that appears invisible ?

Don't stop believing in ufo's, some people watch night after night and see nothing, others see numerous events.
we see what we are meant to see and we don't see what we are meant to see

Don't ask yourself, who am I or what am I doing here?
ask yourself "why am I?"

Jenn · 10-15-2008, 01:53 PM

I agree... shtuff happens, and we deal with it.
There was the big lightship that hovered over downtown
Montreal in 1990 for about 3 hours and all hell didn't break loose,
only one (French) paper printed it,
years later it was on unsolved mysteries.
If nothing spectacular happens in the next few days,
it is going down in my books as a tactic
to increase ridicule and give the debunkers some
new muchly needed material to go on deunking.
1. The Peckman "Alien In The Window" video (we never got to see),
2. The Bigfoot Hoax,
3. Oct. 14th event
= Cannon Fodder!
We must be getting closer to the truth!

UFO over Montreal downtown, Canada, 1990 (video 1)

UFO over Montreal downtown, Canada, 1990 (video 2)

This is a case I would like to hear follow up on, of the witnesses and their feelings about it now.
It happened during my abduction years and not far from my home at the time.

PEACE!
~Jenn

10-15-2008, 01:59 PM

I get the gist of what you're saying but I am not sure why you're so angry at the fact that this visitation did not take place. Are you saying that we are suffering because we just want out with it and basically justify what we have known all along, so as to silence those who ridiculed us?

As far as D. Wilcock is concerned, I understand his viewpoint in respect to the question of free will. If it happened en mass, 'they' would be transgressing that universal law and that is why it did not take place.

I also dont believe ET's will descend on us in 2012, the dimensional shift is about us and our transformation and not some doomsday/independance day scenario.

Peace out

Harper · 10-15-2008, 02:20 PM

hello Folks,

There is no shortage of energy in this wee discussion. I want to ask all who were disappointed what exactly you want to be SAVED from? Isn't this just a replacement of the idea of a saviour in god form to a saviour in Alien form?

If you have learned nothing but one thing from all of the videos, discussions etc.... its that we decided to be here now. HERE not out there .........The saving if it is to occurr is not as sexy as some would hope in a giant unveiling of anything, its the unveiling of the knowledge that we are without limits of any kind if only our brainwashed souls would get out of the way. The unveiling is YOU. You, all of us are here to finally breakdown the frontiers that we have set up for ourselves. It is our light not our darkness that scares us.

You are Immense , you are the universe, YES YOU !

Average Joe · 10-15-2008, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthsayer

Now the real reason behind my beef.

Don't you all find it totally unfair that the awakened humans, which is the majority of forumers on this board, have to suffer so that the unawakened humans and Dark forces can keep their sanity?

If I was an ET commander, I wouldn't have give a damn to the unawakened humans.

Let all the unawakened humans go mad and commit suicide for all I care.

Any unawakened human who is not strong enough to face the truth deserves death and more.

But noooo, instead of worrying about the starseeds, the awakened humans who have sacrificed so much and suffered so much, those ETs worry about the unawakened humans instead.

I mean, do they get their priorities right on who to save first?

Why do us awakened humans have to suffer in order for the unawakened humans to wake up?

What kind of a stupid evolutionary logic is that?!!!

Are you guys not ****** off? I am!

Why should we suffer for the lesser souls?! HUH?!

Why should we suffer for those suckers who gloat at the non-appearance of their rescuers?

God, the irony!

This may surprise you but I actually agree with the entirity of your 3 posts.

The unawakened would soon waken if a big mother ship showed up.

I also think many people who don't believe in ET would actually take it better than we think.

We need to bring disclosure forward.

Swanny · 10-15-2008, 04:30 PM

They disguised the ships as clouds and you have to say Alabama 3 times in order to see them

BeaTnik-BandiT · 10-15-2008, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harper

hello Folks,

I want to ask all who were disappointed what exactly you want to be SAVED from? Isn't this just a replacement of the idea of a saviour in god form to a saviour in Alien form?

As long as humanity thinks like this, Nothing will change.
We have to get rid of victim mentality.
We are not enough mature yet as a species to make contact.

We are the ones who can save ourselves.
Change comes from within.

salute.

BeaTnik-BandiT · 10-15-2008, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oversoul7

As far as D. Wilcock is concerned, I understand his viewpoint in respect to the question of free will. If it happened en mass, 'they' would be transgressing that universal law and that is why it did not take place.

That is correct.

salute.

whitecrow · 10-15-2008, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthsayer

Don't you all find it totally unfair that the awakened humans, which is the majority of forumers on this board...

I have to ask: what on earth makes you think THAT?

whitecrow · 10-15-2008, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harper

There is no shortage of energy in this wee discussion. I want to ask all who were disappointed what exactly you want to be SAVED from? Isn't this just a replacement of the idea of a saviour in god form to a saviour in Alien form?

Thank you. This is a matter of faith. It's taking on the dimensions of a new religion. I have nothing against religion, except that for many it's a trap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Average Joe

If you have learned nothing but one thing from all of the videos, discussions etc.... its that we decided to be here now. HERE not out there .........The saving if it is to occurr is not as sexy as some would hope in a giant unveiling of anything, its the unveiling of the knowledge that we are without limits of any kind if only our brainwashed souls would get out of the way. The unveiling is YOU. You, all of us are here to finally breakdown the frontiers that we have set up for ourselves. It is our light not our darkness that scares us.

We're scared of action, of self-reliance, of trusting each other. We don't want to leave our comfort zones...the self-contained, insulated little cubicles we've spent the last few generations in.

Time to break out of all that, folks.

MargueriteBee · 10-16-2008, 05:56 AM

This whole thing looks more and more like a psych operation. Just look at where your focus is. All of the treads on this topic have been a great distraction.

Everything is distraction...

Truthsayer · 10-19-2008, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitecrow

I have to ask: what on earth makes you think THAT?

The need for a soul to evolve will drive an individual to boards like this.

Treckie · 10-19-2008, 11:20 AM

Invasion of free will? ye right.
In that case the masses will never be ready, and it will never happen.

10-15-2008, 01:15 PM	#1
Truthsayer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 133	The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show Disclaimer: I accept the existence of UFO, the crop circles and the validity of UFO videos from the Arizona Incident and Larry King July Interviews. 2008. I also accept that there are a lot of fake UFO videos out there. Now my beef: According to David Wilcock whom I acknowledge as one of the more realistic UFO/Spiritual source of information out there as he always attempts to back up his words with scientific data and historical facts, he says that the Oct 14 UFO event would be a """Such a mass visitation, at this stage in our planetary game, would be an absolute tragedy — an irreversibly vast insult to the free will of the overwhelming majority of people on Earth who would see it as a horrific and terrifying event, based on their Hollywood movie conditioning."""" According to Mike Quinsey from http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/...ke_Quinsey.htm, a channeler who has so far posted channeled messages without any scientific or data backup, he also similarly states that the UFO mothership would "been a shock to their system, over and above the normal reaction to the many sightings that have been taking place with ever increasing regularity. With all of the confusion and chaos already making people tense and worried, yet another matter of mind wrenching capability has created a degree of tension that was not envisaged." Now the point is, what makes the ETs think that humans will be ready for First Contact 4 years later nearer to 2012? What makes the ETs think that in 2012, humans will not have a similar fear-laden reactions as the ones they had these past few days? The excuse of not scaring people away thus the OCT 14 no-show is simply a LAME EXCUSE!

10-15-2008, 01:23 PM	#2
Truthsayer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 133	Re: The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show From another angle of perspective, Yes it is true that any ETs who tried to interact with humans and incurred any negative karma will be trapped in the same cycle of rebirth and death as us. This potential trap also applies to Gods and other Higher Beings. In other cultures, there have been too many stories of heavenly beings being trapped in the cycle of rebirth and death after coming down to Earth to "explore and help humans." Where do you think the story of Fallen Angels come from? What I think happened is that the FOLs which Blossom Goodchild channel chickened out at the last minute because they fear the bad karma of causing some irreparable shock to the weak ones who have their entire belief system turned upside down. Now the question is, if the FOLs chickened out now, what makes you think that the FOLs won't chickened out 4 years later in 2012? Look I wanted this to happen alright? No one is more ****** off than me at seeing the fools gloating at the no-show and posting so many spam hate messages about the no-show.

10-15-2008, 01:33 PM	#3
Truthsayer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 133	Re: The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show Now the real reason behind my beef. Don't you all find it totally unfair that the awakened humans, which is the majority of forumers on this board, have to suffer so that the unawakened humans and Dark forces can keep their sanity? If I was an ET commander, I wouldn't have give a damn to the unawakened humans. Let all the unawakened humans go mad and commit suicide for all I care. Any unawakened human who is not strong enough to face the truth deserves death and more. But noooo, instead of worrying about the starseeds, the awakened humans who have sacrificed so much and suffered so much, those ETs worry about the unawakened humans instead. I mean, do they get their priorities right on who to save first? Why do us awakened humans have to suffer in order for the unawakened humans to wake up? What kind of a stupid evolutionary logic is that?!!! Are you guys not ****** off? I am! Why should we suffer for the lesser souls?! HUH?! Why should we suffer for those suckers who gloat at the non-appearance of their rescuers? God, the irony!

10-15-2008, 01:40 PM	#4
Colin Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show Moving to Project Camelot General Discussion

10-15-2008, 01:53 PM	#6
Jenn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gaspe Coast Quebec Posts: 61	Re: The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show I agree... shtuff happens, and we deal with it. There was the big lightship that hovered over downtown Montreal in 1990 for about 3 hours and all hell didn't break loose, only one (French) paper printed it, years later it was on unsolved mysteries. If nothing spectacular happens in the next few days, it is going down in my books as a tactic to increase ridicule and give the debunkers some new muchly needed material to go on deunking. 1. The Peckman "Alien In The Window" video (we never got to see), 2. The Bigfoot Hoax, 3. Oct. 14th event = Cannon Fodder! We must be getting closer to the truth! UFO over Montreal downtown, Canada, 1990 (video 1) UFO over Montreal downtown, Canada, 1990 (video 2) This is a case I would like to hear follow up on, of the witnesses and their feelings about it now. It happened during my abduction years and not far from my home at the time. PEACE! ~Jenn

10-15-2008, 01:59 PM	#7
oversoul7 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show I get the gist of what you're saying but I am not sure why you're so angry at the fact that this visitation did not take place. Are you saying that we are suffering because we just want out with it and basically justify what we have known all along, so as to silence those who ridiculed us? As far as D. Wilcock is concerned, I understand his viewpoint in respect to the question of free will. If it happened en mass, 'they' would be transgressing that universal law and that is why it did not take place. I also dont believe ET's will descend on us in 2012, the dimensional shift is about us and our transformation and not some doomsday/independance day scenario. Peace out

10-15-2008, 02:20 PM	#8
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show hello Folks, There is no shortage of energy in this wee discussion. I want to ask all who were disappointed what exactly you want to be SAVED from? Isn't this just a replacement of the idea of a saviour in god form to a saviour in Alien form? If you have learned nothing but one thing from all of the videos, discussions etc.... its that we decided to be here now. HERE not out there .........The saving if it is to occurr is not as sexy as some would hope in a giant unveiling of anything, its the unveiling of the knowledge that we are without limits of any kind if only our brainwashed souls would get out of the way. The unveiling is YOU. You, all of us are here to finally breakdown the frontiers that we have set up for ourselves. It is our light not our darkness that scares us. You are Immense , you are the universe, YES YOU !

10-15-2008, 04:30 PM	#10
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show They disguised the ships as clouds and you have to say Alabama 3 times in order to see them

10-16-2008, 05:56 AM	#15
MargueriteBee Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 216	Re: The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show This whole thing looks more and more like a psych operation. Just look at where your focus is. All of the treads on this topic have been a great distraction. Everything is distraction...

10-19-2008, 11:20 AM	#17
Treckie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cymru (Wales) Posts: 68	Re: The excuse of not scaring people away thus the UFO no-show Invasion of free will? ye right. In that case the masses will never be ready, and it will never happen.