Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**

[Chris Parson]

Originally Posted by Circlewerk

I see you focus on what you don't like, which is the messenger instead of the message..
Anything you DID find positive?

about what? zeitgeist addendum is amazing. i just don't like carl sagan or his smug voice.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by Jenny

And again I merged 1 more thread...

Thanks guys!

Jenny

just want to say you are really on the ball when it comes to moderating & merging. you are doing a great job.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by Chris Parson

he's a lying liar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAUCr9OorXU

Carl was one fo the most inspiring people to walk the planet. Do some reserch. Read Contact, Pale blue dot or Cosmos.

Sagan did think it plausible that governments were misleading their citizens about UFOs, and that "some UFO reports and analyses, and perhaps voluminous files, have been made inaccessible to the public which pays the bills ... It's time for the files to be declassified and made generally available."

Dont be so negative. If a beliver like myself can admire Sagan, even given his skepitcal views on ufology, then I dont see why he should be labled a liar. He is only stating his opinion. big difference.

love & light.

[bennycog]

we must all be doing something right if these guys can get this information out and not be killed.
who are all the people associated with this doco?
who is funding this doco?
now we have all seen this documentary. we need to look at all people involved and quickly. we need to see the credibility of those involved to help us know that what is in this to be true. the proof in this doco is immense i know. there is probably not much time left to figure it all out, (if most other threads are to go by). if you wanted total love, truth, and pure light to break through, we need to discuss these and every issue. remember this whole project was created for the ground crew.
The ground crew is supposed to help people wake up by teaching or calming those that have not woken. Those asleep are not going to think love and being calm will save us.
Therefore it needs to be broken slowly to them. and our investigations into this documentary might just be our only way to communicate. so bound together ground crew.
benny

[bennycog]

one of the people involved in the documentary is.

Jaque Fresco. he has a website called simpleology.com.
in this website he is teaching people how to draw, and tells them to use this teaching to make money.

i think this needs to be explained as he is asking everyone to get away from the monetary system.

Roxanne Meadows (another person involved in the documentary) backs him up on this website.

I understand that we have to make money in this society, at the moment, until we are self sufficient. i think we just need to hear from these people as to why they participate in helping others participate in globalism.
benny

[bennycog]

http://www.prahlad.org/gallery/krishnamurti.htm

the guy talking in black and white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Carlin

comedian quoted.

Thanks...i watched it yesterday.....wow it gave me hope for our future again !!!!!!!

[bennycog]

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/sources.htm

lists all involved.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

bump...

[Chris Parson]

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

Carl was one fo the most inspiring people to walk the planet. Do some reserch. Read Contact, Pale blue dot or Cosmos.

Sagan did think it plausible that governments were misleading their citizens about UFOs, and that "some UFO reports and analyses, and perhaps voluminous files, have been made inaccessible to the public which pays the bills ... It's time for the files to be declassified and made generally available."

Dont be so negative. If a beliver like myself can admire Sagan, even given his skepitcal views on ufology, then I dont see why he should be labled a liar. He is only stating his opinion. big difference.

love & light.

if you take anything burisch or wilcock has to say seriously about looking glass, then sagan was clearly informed about it all.

and i've got a carl sagan book on my shelf right now. demon haunted world. its all about how each and every one of us on this forum is delusional and hallucinating.

[Zynox]

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

I actually love Sagans voice. i find it rather trance like.

Trance is one tool utilized to impregnate mind memes, mind-fu*ks and all forms of mental parasites. Once we enter trance, we are susceptible to suggestions, as many religious ceremonies and rituals have adopted ~

~ love and namaste, my sisters and brothers ~

[Zynox]

Originally Posted by Chris Parson

iits all about how each and every one of us on this forum is delusional and hallucinating.

I accept that my experience may be perceived as that of an inmate in an asylum, however, I have been spitting out my meds after the orderly leaves the room, soon, as all the residual toxins clear, I'll be outside the hallucinatory realm ... and, the War in Heaven will be more clear ... white hats, black hats or free-soul > I Choose Free Soul (Magi, creative in imagination) ...

~ love and namaste my sisters and brothers ~

[cakewhole]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...95921912&hl=en

[Kundaflower]

My dear seva,

Nice that you put this here...
I think biggest gift in this is the simple explanation of the monetary system..

Explanation of imperium building section was ok..

" Weapons of mass creavity " ok... list here...

1. expose the bank cartel
2. boycott the news
3. boycott the military
4. boycott the energy companys if possible...
5. reject the political system
6. create critical mass..

I didnt like so much tecnology religion kind of preaching...
I think there is other solutions for that...who want..

Otherwise better than first zeitgeist..

kundaflower..

[Zelphael]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05277695921912

Or at www.zeitgeistmovie.com


A must watch. This film is meant to tell us the answers to the problems the first film revealed. I'm about it watch it now.

[AndyH]

This should perhaps be made a sticky?
One of the best (if not the best) truth vids I've seen thus far.
At this present time of economic crisis, showing this to others would be a real hard hitting eye opener.
I'm going to be emailing this link to as many people as possible (using bcc of course).
My own personal opinion is that we are on the brink of a change in conciousness...from power to ethics. It merely takes a critical mass.

[Theresa]

just want to post a consideration of this film.

A patriot friend of mine said that the promoter of the film festival in LA recently that featured this film is connected to the UN.

He found that info by following the links from this website www.zeitgeistmovie.com. His take is that they may be "highjacking" this film for their luciferian agendas, as in using it in "reverse psychology."

The only way I could imagine that would serve them is in their plan to emerge as the "white knight" to save humanity after they "punish" or expose the bad guy front men, ie, banks, politicians, when they are done with them.

Just something important to consider.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by Zynox

Trance is one tool utilized to impregnate mind memes, mind-fu*ks and all forms of mental parasites. Once we enter trance, we are susceptible to suggestions, as many religious ceremonies and rituals have adopted ~

~ love and namaste, my sisters and brothers ~

I didnt say sagan put me in a trance! Jesus, thats a jump! Are you suggesing that I was in an actual trance? get a grip amigo! :LOL: I just like the meter of his voice.
You cant say anything on here without it being interpreted to the nth degree!

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by Chris Parson

if you take anything burisch or wilcock has to say seriously about looking glass, then sagan was clearly informed about it all.
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Right, once again, thats a massive leap & I cant see your logic at all. How did you reach the conclusion that Sagen was "clearly informed about it all".

What has that got to do with wilcock or burisch? (The least 2 convincing of the camelot witnessess IMO) Please explain. Otherwise your comments just seem totally unrelated.

I also have demon haunted world. Its a great book! You seem to have missed its point.


Anyway, this is all going horribly off topic.

[Chris Parson]

rather than moving all the zeitgeist threads into one that doesn't even say zeitgeist in the thread title, why not at least change that thread title to say zeitgeist so we don't get a new thread every hour that gets moved

[Chris Parson]

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

Right, once again, thats a massive leap & I cant see your logic at all. How did you reach the conclusion that Sagen was "clearly informed about it all".

What has that got to do with wilcock or burisch? (The least 2 convincing of the camelot witnessess IMO) Please explain. Otherwise your comments just seem totally unrelated.

I also have demon haunted world. Its a great book! You seem to have missed its point.


Anyway, this is all going horribly off topic.

all the looking glass stuff seems to be 'hidden in plain sight' in contact.

even if sagan was not informed, he's still delusional and CONVINCED that there's never been any ET contact and there's never been a demonic possession and there's never been telepathy, etc etc.

i just don't think anybody can be that smart and that deluded.

i don't like him.

[elirien]

Originally Posted by bennycog

http://www.prahlad.org/gallery/krishnamurti.htm

the guy talking in black and white.

about krishnamurti:

http://www.gnosticteachings.org/the-...shnamurti-case

notice that this is a theosophic society page, whom were behind aryanism and their 'mistress' helena petrovna blavatsky's book "the secret doctrine" was one of adolf hitler's most favored ones.

addition: the writer of that paper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael_Aun_Weor

(..)Into the 1960s, he continued to write many books on topics, such as Hermetic Astrology, Flying Saucers,[21] and the Kabbalah. However, he also wrote sociopolitical works such as the Platform of POSCLA, a Latin-American Christian Socialist Party, which attacks the doctrines of Marxism-Leninism and any other aspect of "Materialistic Atheism". Members should be well versed in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion [24] and have a profound knowledge of Buddhist egolessness [25] and Yoga Ahimsa[26] to eliminate the Secret Enemy (the cause of war) from the macrocosmic social milieu: the personal life.(..)

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Originally Posted by Chris Parson

all the looking glass stuff seems to be 'hidden in plain sight' in contact.

even if sagan was not informed, he's still delusional and CONVINCED that there's never been any ET contact and there's never been a demonic possession and there's never been telepathy, etc etc.

i just don't think anybody can be that smart and that deluded.

i don't like him.

You are still making a leap. Hidden in plane sight? Come on man!
You are adding 2 and 2 and getting 5.
Carl spent years speaking with physicist Kip Thorne about how long distance space travel would be possible for research for his book Contact. They came up with the Einstein-Rossen Bridge mechanism that is used in contact. It has NOTHING to do with stargates, Burish & so on. Because you don't like him, you are twisting facts to fit your agenda of him being a liar.
Carl has said some incredibly profound things. If a contactee like myself can admire the man, even given his sceptical views on ufology, then I think you should be able to go back and give him another chance.
Just because he has a different truth to your truth or my truth it does not make him a liar. That he is a liar is YOUR assumption and betrays your biasness.

Also, I see you totally ignored the quote from Sagen I posted where he says its likely the governments of the world may be holding back UFO files.

RIP Carl. You are much missed.

[Chris Parson]

i hold sagan responsible for this bizarre wave of science zealots who have no regard for common sense. they are so certain that "strange things do not happen" that they dismiss any and all evidence immediately and without scrutiny. sagan assures them that they are completely safe and sound in their assumptions.

don't make me start quoting this book


my suspicion is that he was informed. just like you said. he said it is likely that the government was hiding stuff. he probably knew a lot more than that. doesn't change the fact that he influenced the collective psyche in profoundly negative ways.

you might miss him, but he would still say this entire forum is collective insanity and that we're all deluded and hallucinating.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

"he influenced the collective psyche in profoundly negative ways."

How can you say that..?! Sagan was an inspiration to millions. I have no idea why you posted that photo either. Baffled.

If you want to talk about those that are so certain that "strange things do not happen" that they dismiss any and all evidence immediately and without scrutiny, the look no further than Michael Shermer.

Anyway, its clear you are unwilling to even consider changing your mind.

Lets just agree to disagree & leave it at that.