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Old 10-30-2008, 08:08 AM   #51
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Some people just don't get enough attention so they have to stir up controversy to amuse themselves.

No one can convince anyone of anything. Just as with perception "the truth" comes from the perceiver. Be pateint and tolerant and let people find their truth at their own pace and in their own mind. I can't imagine someone without an open mind being interested in this forum, unless he or she had alterior motives...Tao
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:59 AM   #52
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I watched the dancer for a while and she moves both ways.
She starts out counter-clockwise, clockwise and back to counter-clockwise.
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:14 PM   #53
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:18 PM   #54
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:41 PM   #55
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Your version of truth is Christian fundementalist. I am not saying that is wrong, but going around and telling everybody that they need to see things from your perspective is very selfish. Your youtube video evidence doesnt hold a candle to the idea that truth comes from the perceiver... Nothing we can say to you will change what you believe to be true and the same goes for your comments to somebody else....
perception of the observer determines the observers truth...
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Old 10-30-2008, 03:04 PM   #56
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Old 10-30-2008, 03:10 PM   #57
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Your version of truth is Christian fundementalist. I am not saying that is wrong, but going around and telling everybody that they need to see things from your perspective is very selfish. Your youtube video evidence doesnt hold a candle to the idea that truth comes from the perceiver... Nothing we can say to you will change what you believe to be true and the same goes for your comments to somebody else....
perception of the observer determines the observers truth...

Hi Orion, he is trying to mix logic with religious fanaticism. It makes no sense, only insanity.

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Old 10-30-2008, 04:44 PM   #58
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:00 PM   #59
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When or where have I ever come out in favor or defense of religion?


You argued with me about christianity and the bible for a few hours yesterday. You seemed to support the word of the bible and discredited the word of the Koran and claimed that Buddhism and Taoism are not religions.

I cant stream video here at work but I assure you arguing with the philosiphy that ones truth depends on ones perception is not going to get you anywhere.
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:28 PM   #60
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:33 PM   #61
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Man in Black: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Arcora: Wait til I get going! Now, where was I?
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:20 PM   #62
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And you know the truth...

your on the enlightened path????

right buddy... that is why you spend all your time on the internet arguing with people at work about how your right and the bible is the best book and your not religious???

seriously..... listen to what your saying



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a. Reading the bible and following it's teachings is not religion. Religion's are corrupted organized bodies that sprung up around the book and I have no religion. The bible is a book of truth's that everyone should read and contemplate before passing judgement on it or on me. So many here rail against this book that they have never read with an open mind.

b. It's too bad that you can't watch the video. Please do when you get home and tell me if you still want to make that statement. (By the way, I didn't say 'one's' truth. I said truth - they are two different things.)
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:28 PM   #63
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So...what happened to the ufo sighting?
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:35 PM   #64
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:36 PM   #65
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No really, what happened to the ufo sighting?
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:56 PM   #66
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Lets get back on topic.

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Old 10-31-2008, 02:33 AM   #67
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No really, what happened to the ufo sighting?

Read here: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5145 then come back to this thread


As strange as this sounds, I saw something similar about 2 weeks ago, but it was late in the afternoon and didn't emit any light.
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:01 PM   #68
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To me... the picture of the dancer is simply a gif that rotates clockwise for a fixed amount of time, then goes clockwise for a fixed amount of time.... then looped.... no real secret or training of brain to come to this conclusion either.... gif's are wonderful, wonderful pics =).
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:29 PM   #69
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To me... the picture of the dancer is simply a gif that rotates clockwise for a fixed amount of time, then goes clockwise for a fixed amount of time.... then looped.... no real secret or training of brain to come to this conclusion either.... gif's are wonderful, wonderful pics =).
Don't think so. I looked at it for a long, long time yesterday and it only went clockwise. Today, it started clockwise, then I cocked my head and focused on something else on the screen and then she changed position. Then she started going half turn one way, half turn the other. I'm much more balanced today, I guess!
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:17 PM   #70
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Well, I see the original poster has left and ACURA has put his/her spin on the subject, completely changing it. I'm sure your ego is enjoying the dance you have created here.
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:22 PM   #71
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I want to remind all members in this thread to abide by the guidelines and keep it civil.

Thank you all.




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Old 11-10-2008, 04:23 PM   #72
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This is footage taken in Germany, we are in Michigan, but this is what we also saw, except when we saw it it was shaped more oval/rectanglish....cool!

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=ft99NFxZPN0
Michigan???? My home town

Lots of fresh water around michigan.... Hmmmm
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Old 11-11-2008, 02:26 AM   #73
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Theresa,

On Thursday, October 30, 2008: @~22:20:00, I was returning home from giving a presentation at UCLA... I felt it went quite poorly, and I was obsessing on my missteps (I went way over the alotted time and got cut off before the best support of my thesis was even presented).

I was driving North on Pacific Coast Highway (1/2 mile away from Malibu Canyon when a bright light flashed in my peripheral vision. Initially, I ignored it.

When I reached Malibu Canyon (my exit), I saw the flash again... then it disappeared. I was so bummed on my presentation that I turned inland... for 1 minute... before I decided "Oh, why not," and I turned around and parked at Malibu Bluffs Park.

I pulled out my 10X80 magnification astronomy binocs and went to the bluffs edge overlooking the Pacific where there were no trees to obscure this massive view.

Well, over the ocean & North of me was this bright orange blob.

"Mars" I thought. Wait, Mars isn't in our sky tonight at this time. Oh, and there are absolutely no planes visible at this exact moment (which is freakishly rare).

I braced the Binocs and trained in on the object.

It was a warm, bright orangish red OCTAHEDRON... plain as day.

Wait, "is this collamination in my binocs?" I wondered aloud. A couple quick adjustments and I retrained on the octahedron... whose image was now as sharp as a razor, and clearly exhibiting a mid "seam," it was a 3 dimensional octahedron of orange red light.

Waves of realization washed over me, yet, I felt unusually calm... even blissful. I am a natural empath (as we all "should" be). This craft was benevolent... just cruising parallel along the beach.

I watched for over 20 minutes as it leisurely cruised North along the coast. Eventually it disappeared over the ocean's horizon... which means it was pretty huge.

As soon as it left, normal LAX traffic resumed... it seemed to appear during a lull.

It was no lantern. It was not my imagination. I have seen a lot in this here town over the years... including several UFO's: the 1st one I ever saw was 1 hour after the 1994 Northridge 6.7 earthquake at 5 in the morning. I lived in Northridge at that time... it wasn't a lantern either.

So, Theresa... you saw what you saw. Non experiencers will never understand until they live through their own REAL experience.

Life is more than we know.
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Old 11-11-2008, 03:44 AM   #74
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errr... I see clockwise... even the shadow suggests a clockwise rotation. Rational explanation for my 'emotional' view of the picture,

It coulda been a UFO, coulda been a flying lantern, coulda been a high-energy plasma discharge from highly compressed granite... who cares. Someone saw something weird and posted it for our consideration. Exchange rationale, sure, but please stop drawing these battle lines.
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:30 AM   #75
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Holy **** the dancer is good practice going from rational to emotional. I had her going back and forth in half rotations!
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