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Old 11-04-2008, 07:26 PM   #26
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Colin, please confirm my thoughts on this.

Everyone... as far as I know adding a new member chat area to the forum would cause a major slowdown of the forum.

This has been discussed since the onset of Avalon's creation and it is known that opening something like this up will do nothing but cause hosting server issues. If anybody has suggestions/experiences please provide to myself, Colin or Gareth.

Thank you Heretic for your IRC suggestion above.

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well I cant take the IRC credit and praise, as that belongs to GaiaLove, but on behalf of GaiaLove I thank you

I think your right concerning the latency issues but it really depends on how much upstream the host here has

IMHO it would have to be another host or a better plan with Avalon's current provider to compensate

as far as it being another host, especially one that is designed for the loads chat rooms bring, a simple link on this site, and some proper decorations, you wouldn't even be able to tell you have left Avalon at all

I am sure there are people here more savvy than I am on this but if no one can enlighten us on this in a day or so I will do some research myself
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:37 PM   #27
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a chat room would be a good solution for posting, but i personally find a lot of valuable information on forums, that would not be possible with a chat room since it is all real time and doesn't record.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:03 PM   #28
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Chat room... bad idea.

People literally chit-chat in chat rooms and tend to say absolutely nothing. You can't search them well, and people get so hung up in the moment they don't stop to think what they are writing. On a forum you can change everything a million times before you post it, and then edit it if it sounds wrong.

Seriously, as sensitive as a lot of people are on this forum I can't imagine what would happen when people start to make their argument but have to keep hitting the Return button... all the while they're trying to state their knowledge or case and people are jumping down their necks because the Poster hadn't finished putting everything up yet.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:54 PM   #29
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Good chat room location= http://www.toolband.com/chat/enhanced.html
There are 6 rooms total.Most of the idiots go into the first room.The rest are empty.It does go down on occasion though.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:04 PM   #30
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a chat room would be a good solution for posting, but i personally find a lot of valuable information on forums, that would not be possible with a chat room since it is all real time and doesn't record.
The Average Chat Client does record. You could post the log file's interesting part after some editing.

On a side note. I have been on irc.2012info.ca # Avalon for a day or so, and no one logged in beside [10:31] <cy_kotic> hey
So this might not be very useful.
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:34 AM   #31
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On a side note. I have been on irc.2012info.ca # Avalon for a day or so, and no one logged in beside [10:31] <cy_kotic> hey
So this might not be very useful.
The network is new and is not populated as of yet, which would explain why it's so quite there at the moment. It would provide the Camelot/Avalon population with pretty much exclusivity. All channels would be related to the topics relevant to people here.

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Colin, please confirm my thoughts on this.

Everyone... as far as I know adding a new member chat area to the forum would cause a major slowdown of the forum.
This has been discussed since the onset of Avalon's creation and it is known that opening something like this up will do nothing but cause hosting server issues. If anybody has suggestions/experiences please provide to myself, Colin or Gareth.
As for the servers and bandwidth, i would pick up the tab for that. I own the ones running now

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I have been wanting this since the day Avalon opened, and there was a thread started then too

I would like one that you can create your own private rooms etc so there can be one on one conversation or small groups discussing something without public interference or judgment

these things exist all over but the good ones cost money for hosting

IRC does have a learning curve to use and software is needed but if that is all there is...
Any user can register their nickname as well as there own channel (room) if so desired. channels can be hidden or public. IRC software is recommended for admin but the existing java based interface is easily used and accessed on the web.

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Old 11-05-2008, 02:43 AM   #32
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click here---------> http://gabbly.com/http://www.project...ead.php?t=6656

the chat will load to your top right hand corner its FREE
the pop up window will stay there and you can surf the site... dont feel like chatting just close the window to the chat this chat works on any web site

or http://home.gabbly.com/

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Old 11-06-2008, 04:45 AM   #33
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You guys are GREAT!

And Gaia....i did stop into your chat room this evening and met Dragaon...was great help...and the funny thing is i have been learning IRC all this week and hadn't checked this thread until tonight.

As for some of the other posters' concerns about what will happen to this forum...well NOTHING of course....this is where everyone comes to read and exchange info...

I will be opening a room in paltalk for Avalon chat....when it is setup i will post the link and some instructions on how to proceed....the ONLY reason i suggest paltalk is because the program has voice so people can talk instead of type...and thats great for staying on topic and easier then typing...at least for me LOL...

peace

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Old 11-06-2008, 05:36 AM   #34
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http://2012info.ca/chat/ -- this one is easy, and, simple

if someone would chat, it could be fun
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Old 11-06-2008, 06:20 AM   #35
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They have a chatroom already on these forums buts its hidden
If this is true it's not impressive. I know a few sites that are popular and have a perfectly functional chatroom without problems. One in which you can still hide if you want (in which you can make secret rooms). So why not? It doesn't require moderation. Nor ruin the forum and it's not a lot of hassle with the right software. An efficient chatroom speeds communication up between users considerably allowing others to get to know each other much more quickly. I'm skeptical it would slow down the forum. Chat software is avaliable that would contain all the needed requirements I'm not technical about it but I'm sure others would be capable. Everyone here basically wants one. So much so they are creating their own chatrooms lol.

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I wouldn't call a chatbox a moderation tool. It's a chatbox. Even if we are not allowed a say in the chat, there is no reason why it can't be public unless there is something to hide. Making it secret seems illogical it would only encourage abuse. If anything with moderation you want the contrary, transparency.

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Old 11-06-2008, 12:31 PM   #36
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Being Irish one of the first threads we opened was 'the pub' which works a bit like a chat room, everybody feel free to call in http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5907 oh, and we have a great juke box
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:40 PM   #37
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I suggest that the people in favor of a chatbox organize themselves and DO it.

Post the link and let people decide to join or not.

What is keeping you?


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Old 11-06-2008, 01:15 PM   #38
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Definitley yes yes yes . Please .
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:44 PM   #39
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I suggest that the people in favor of a chatbox organize themselves and DO it.

Post the link and let people decide to join or not.

What is keeping you?


Free will, free choice.

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Interesting. You already have a chatbox in secret. That would be two chatboxes. But our public one would not be connected to the site you are suggeting a link? That is not the same if it's not inbuilt into the forum it becomes a seperate thing altogether. The difference is clear isn't it? We don't have the tools nor the permission to make a chatroom inbuilt into the forum it's for the owners.

It certainly is up to everyone to sort a chatroom out if they want one. Take it into consideration there is a demand on this particular site though. If I made that much effort I'd make my own site in that case.

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Old 11-06-2008, 01:50 PM   #40
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We have a very small chatbox for obvious reasons. It is a moderation tool. We need that.

and stop being so secretive...grinn.
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Old 11-06-2008, 02:53 PM   #41
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I'm chatting with folks now in

via web: http://2012info.ca/chat/

or with a client: irc.2012info.ca


more and more people are trickling in

good times
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:21 PM   #42
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A chat room can not be moderated, edited or deleted. Once someone says something in a chat, it is out there for all to hear. The logs can be edited, but the original message still goes through.
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:34 PM   #43
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We have a very small chatbox for obvious reasons. It is a moderation tool. We need that.

and stop being so secretive...grinn.
I agree, a moderator chat interface is essential on a forum like this. The members are free to join the one set up and growing at the links I and later Heretic posted for the 2012info chatroom
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:56 AM   #44
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someone was asking how to find the chat


via web: http://2012info.ca/chat/

or with a client: irc.2012info.ca


so, i am slinging it to the top
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Old 11-11-2008, 02:05 AM   #45
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someone was asking how to find the chat


via web: http://2012info.ca/chat/

or with a client: irc.2012info.ca


so, i am slinging it to the top
THAT is not the point.. When are you logging in?
There is a chatbox named #Avalon on that server also beside #2012

At your sevice M'Lady
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Old 11-11-2008, 02:08 AM   #46
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THAT is not the point.. When are you logging in?
There is a chatbox named #Avalon on that server also beside #2012

At your sevice M'Lady
i shall log on NOW sir

& be a good sport for 51 minutes LOL
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Old 11-11-2008, 02:14 AM   #47
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i shall log on NOW sir

& be a good sport for 51 minutes LOL
(I'm not going to ask how you knew. )
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Old 11-11-2008, 02:17 AM   #48
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PC, PA forums seems to me are rapidly evolving. And that's why careful Moderation is so important I think. Tip of the hat to PC/PA Staff. <-that's an ebe.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:12 PM   #49
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I was away the last few weeks as I drove across Canada twice on a business trip. (avoid Canadian road trips in winter folks) T'is good to be home. I noticed the chat room has barely been used. Anyone have any theories as to why? I still feel that real-time conversation is as important a medium for us as a forum like this one is, one compliments the other.
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:18 AM   #50
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I was checking it daily there for a while

sometimes irc.2012info.ca would be down, and I couldn't get in

then occasionally I could get in and no one was in the channel

I would stick around a bit sometimes and found no one would show up

I just figured all the drama here had something to do with it

so I never said anything about it

I will start popping in again
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