New Camelot Interview of Dr Bill Deagle (15 Nov 2009)

[mntruthseeker]

I used to follow Alex Jones and he had alot to do with me seeing what was happening. I dont agree with all that he says. But I do not by any means hate him for what he is doing. He is waking up people and lately he has calmed down alot and says not to start riots, etc. So even he is learning to tone things down. We all start somewhere

IMO the aliens are running this planet and have been for a very long time. I also believe that we will win this battle no matter what TPTB's put out there


I say we take all the help we can to wake up the world.

[Lionhawk]

Then there is this saying that we should not judge. I think there are levels of judgment and you should know what those levels are and be able to exercise the ones that you can that do not cross the line. It is one thing to judge what someone says or does, and it is another to judge someone's path. If you can't judge what is best for you then what or how are you going to be able to learn or to be able to choose? If someone is pointing a gun at your head, are you going to sit there in non judgment? But they have grouped all these levels into one context and I find it irresponsible for one to buy that in the context they present it in.

Another thing I find is that many are so brainwashed in their religions and will do whatever it takes to keep their religions alive. A religion being defined as one's own belief system. If their beliefs are not kept alive they feel as though they have nothing to live for. Talk about the roots of fear, there is one of them. I also find many are enslaved by their beliefs that they will often play that discredit card to no end. Never realizing they were free to begin with. Here's a question. If the Doctor is so discredited, why is it that he is still free? And for someone to say that everything he says is a lie, or anyone else for that matter is just out of balance with their own reality. If I can't judge that and stay away from those types of people, all I am doing is enabling the darkside to run over my free agency. It is what you do with the judgment that you have made and how that is I mean is how you react to it. Also have you ever noticed that the ones who are "doing" and that's across the board, like work, gatherings, or whatever activities, these people always become targets by those who are lacking in some area? Usually a feeling (emotional body again) of some type of jealousy or like they are missing out on something. The do'ers are always targeted. Human nature. So when I hear these same people complain and whine and the more they do the more I listen to what they are whining against, because I know then there is truth buried in there. A lot of times it is not what is presented that gets my attention. It is the uproar from those who demonstrate what they don't want anyone to see. And usually, almost every time, it is because of what they fear. So when you hear "that is a fear based message," I have to ask what are "you fearing?" If there are lies on every level then there is also truth on every level. As long as I am detached emotionally from it, then I can make the proper judgment from a place of balance.

If you don't like what you are hearing or watching, then just change the channel and keep your comments to yourself as I might be interested as to what I am listening to or watching. It just might not be for you and the sky isn't going to fall down either way. Let me be the judge of that, because I choose too! The bottom line is it is all second hand information and when people start treating it like that instead of imposing their emotional bodies over it like they do with their religions, one way or the other, to make it come alive with no real foundation to speak from, I will continue to judge that for my own safety and benefit.

Namaste'

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by mu2143

And Deagle message is to get people going into action to get truth out,
you want best you can get. So you know the future is good.

Originally Posted by mu2143

What is goed example
If PTB get the American people to disarm then they can go head with the next step.You want people to get awake, but on the moment I do not see a lot of people awake to the full extend what is realy going on

Some people getting to a level what I call the Alex Jones level that there are NO ET running our plannet. Just getting people to that is already a hard part.

Two good points.

Another leader who denies the ET factor is Alan Watt.

Additionally, with Alex Jones, I'm very disappointed that he is not supporting Continental Congress 2009 to defend liberty when he claims that's what he is all about.

I think you heard Dr Bill say what I heard him say: we need to take responsibility for speaking out to stop wrong-doing in public affairs. Things we pay for with our tax money. Things that are done in our name. Things that it appears that we support and agree with if we remain silent.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

I used to follow Alex Jones and he had alot to do with me seeing what was happening. I dont agree with all that he says. But I do not by any means hate him for what he is doing. He is waking up people and lately he has calmed down alot and says not to start riots, etc. So even he is learning to tone things down. We all start somewhere

IMO the aliens are running this planet and have been for a very long time. I also believe that we will win this battle no matter what TPTB's put out there


I say we take all the help we can to wake up the world.

I just criticized Alex Jones in my last post, but I also give him a lot of credit. When I first understood 9-11 truth, and then I started learning about the Illuminati and the plan to take away our sovereignty, Alex Jones was the only person I could listen to who was as upset about things as I was. And he has taught me alot.

I think if we can stop focusing on the Illuminati does this and the Illuminati does that and start focusing on speaking out about what the truth is and then taking action to reverse the directives handed down to us, we will win.

[mntruthseeker]

well that all depends on how you define judgement. Decision making is not judging IMO

Religion is not part of my world any longer but I do think its funny the way the vatican is trying to change their stories now a days.

The only good thing about religion is it did keep many on the straight and narrow so to speak. Gave some people consciousness

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

Then there is this saying that we should not judge...

Good post!!

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

The only good thing about religion is it did keep many on the straight and narrow so to speak. Gave some people consciousness

Kept em in fear too
Not necessarily the best thing if you want to be sovereign

[mntruthseeker]

Fear is one I forgotten .....how silly of me...............I feared hell for too many years that I have thrown the idea out of my mind so forgot about that

[Seashore]

Okay my understanding from the interview is that Dr Bill believes that pandemic/vaccinations are for the purpose of chipping us rather than population reduction.

I presume that this would have to be done through the vaccine, correct?

[Northern Boy]

Then there is this saying that we should not judge.

I believe in the end you judge yourself and what type of life you lived and how you treated others.

[mntruthseeker]

that is something I don't agree with. What is happening is too many of us are waking up and refusing the vaccination period.

I dont believe the chipping is going to happen either even though TPTB's would love that. They lost control already

In Minnesota last Saturday they were giving free shots to children ages 5 to 12 that were healthy..................LOL The turnout was described as a "trickle" came in and they had more workers there then patients. Also when the new mediator asked how much vaccine they had left they refused to answer him.

I absolutely love it. Now they say all the Santas need to be vaccinated and I pray they tell them what to do or where to go

I listened to the interview and yes he did say and I'm sure thats true but it isn't going to happen. Listening to anything just makes me stronger in my decision of non compliance.

All and all there are some people that are great followers of Dr Deagle that will listen to him that may not follow anybody else. So its a good interview IMO.

Get the words out there

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

that is something I don't agree with. What is happening is too many of us are waking up and refusing the vaccination period.

I dont believe the chipping is going to happen either even though TPTB's would love that. They lost control already

In Minnesota last Saturday they were giving free shots to children ages 5 to 12 that were healthy..................LOL The turnout was described as a "trickle" came in and they had more workers there then patients. Also when the new mediator asked how much vaccine they had left they refused to answer him.

I absolutely love it. Now they say all the Santas need to be vaccinated and I pray they tell them what to do or where to go

I listened to the interview and yes he did say and I'm sure thats true but it isn't going to happen. Listening to anything just makes me stronger in my decision of non compliance.

All and all there are some people that are great followers of Dr Deagle that will listen to him that may not follow anybody else. So its a good interview IMO.

Get the words out there

When you say that is something I don't agree with I don't know what you mean...

What I was posting was a statement that the Illuminati are trying to chip us rather than reduce the population with pandemic/vaccinations.

I think it's not working, as well. I am very, very encouraged by the stories I hear of people wising up about vaccines.

But I think we need to remember that we might get forced somehow. Any thoughts about smart things we can do to make sure forced vaccinations don't happen I will appreciate - things other than simply refusing to volunteer. What are we going to do if they institute "voluntary with consequences" if you don't show up. Guess we'll just accept the consequences...

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

I believe in the end you judge yourself and what type of life you lived and how you treated others.

Hi Northern Boy! I haven't seen you in a long time.

I'm thinking that on the topic of judging maybe we all can agree that on the forum, when we post, we shouldn't make personal judgments about the posters we are responding to. It kind of smacks of a personal attack, which is against forum rules.

As far as judging ideas, though, that's our job here. We must speak our truth and others should respect our right to express it.

Did I just change the subject? I didn't mean to if I did...

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Seashore

This is what the controllers of the world should be doing: placing surge protectors on all the power grids of the world. It would only take 200-300 million investors. The breakdown of society from a breakdown of the grid is anticipated to cause more deaths from starvation, etc. than an air-born plague.

I've been thinking about this. I hear Dr Bill saying that the major threat re. earth changes is a solar mass ejection or even a sunspot coupled with the collapse of the magnetosphere. But there are two remedies that people, if they were on board and working on this, could do: prepare to quarantine themselves for 30-60 days and the above re. surge protectors.

We focus so much on the Illuminati. But I think a greater problem are the minions of the Illuminati. If they would wake up and smell the coffee and take action, things could change.

How can we reach the minions of the Illuminati and get them on our side?

[Barron]

Hi Seashore.
The vaccine is indeed about population reduction too!! Think "sterilisation".
I can back this up with hundreds of articles but most of this info is already on this site in one way, shapre of form.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Barron

Hi Seashore.
The vaccine is indeed about population reduction too!! Think "sterilisation".
I can back this up with hundreds of articles but most of this info is already on this site in one way, shapre of form.

Yeah, Alan Watt talks about it alot. So does Alex Jones.

I think they're all right. The Illuminati do want to chip us with the vaccine so they can have total control over us.

But at the same time, sterilization brings about a decrease in future generations; they gotta make sure we don't outnumber them too much.

[Seashore]

Dr Bill actually said intervention of a solar mass ejection, didn't he?

I have never heard him say anything like this before.

He did say that, right?

[Barron]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Dr Bill actually said intervention of a solar mass ejection, didn't he?

I have never heard him say anything like this before.

He did say that, right?

Yes, he has said that before and he is probably bang on the money. As there was also a report of someone high up in the military/industrial complex who was very technically qualified being given a project to work on - which was , what to do when the USA has a complete power blackour or melt down f the grid. (Not "if" but "when") - interesting. Personally, i think we should all be prepared to live without power. Such as cooking on gas, having matchs, candles torches, and basic emergency survival supplies. Esp water.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Barron

Yes, he has said that before and he is probably bang on the money. As there was also a report of someone high up in the military/industrial complex who was very technically qualified being given a project to work on - which was , what to do when the USA has a complete power blackour or melt down f the grid. (Not "if" but "when") - interesting. Personally, i think we should all be prepared to live without power. Such as cooking on gas, having matchs, candles torches, and basic emergency survival supplies. Esp water.

What I mean is an intervention by higher beings. Or did I misunderstand? Can higher beings interfere with a solar mass ejection?

[Lionhawk]

I thought I had my bearins mixed up. What a relief to have the one that I resonated with show up finally in this thread. Thanks Barron for showing up!

All I can say on the judgment, discernment, making choices card is that it operates on several levels. We should keep that in mind when applying our opinions. It is not one size fits all type of thing. Crossing that line is usually an emotional reaction and often leads to bad decisions concerning consideration of others. It always seems to come from a place of lack of whatever.

I think anyone regardless of their credentials who takes the risk to expose these agendas is putting their life on the line and this out weighs any bureaucratic standard. I've seen people who have no degrees whatsoever have better integrity standards than the ones who do have degrees. All the paperwork for titles is a scam anyways by the rulers to begin with. I had a business and anyone who has will tell you that it is a scam of fictitious malarkey just to title something so that it can be used to suck the money out of you. Your sweat and tears. They give you nothing in return. So whoever said that credentials are really worth anything doesn't know the real scope of it. Just because you seem to be debunking anything using whatever discredit card you are using and hiding behind the very organization claiming such an authority just tells me how credible that is.

I think I have my bear ins straight now. hahahhaa

Blessings people!

[dolphin]

focus on what you want your reality to be. where thoughts go, energy flows.

deagle sells a future of ills and negative realities...and he profits from them. to me he's no "prophet" as he claims. and once again using religion to further his cause. he was completely wrong last year. i fell in that trap listening to him a year ago and my life fell into turmoil and fear.

he manipulates your own personal power so you focus on the negative which in turn creates negative frequencies. you will attract those negative frequencies to you...believe in a healthy body, a healthy earth, a healthy soul.

[Thunderbird]

Found this*translated from Russian concerning Ukraine black lung pandemic:


Based on autopsies, we have come to the conclusion: it’s not pneumonia, but cardiopulmonary insufficiency and cardiogenic shock... The virus enters directly into the lungs, there is bleeding... Antibiotics should not be used...
Why do we have such a high mortality rate in the country?
Because people are going to pharmacies to get medicine instead of going to their doctors to be treated... No it is not pneumonic plague. It’s all nonsense... antibiotics do not help... Those with strong immune systems will survive. People with weak immune systems will succumb to the illness... Face Masks provide 30% extra protection. Wearing glasses gives an additional 10% protection, that is 40%, because the virus penetrates the mucose membranes.
The Head of the Chernivtsi regional forensic bureau, Professor Victor Bachinsky M.D.*makes a strong statement: all the victims of the virus in Bukovina (22 persons aged 20 to 40 years) died not from bilateral (double) pneumonia, as previously thought, but as a result of viral distress syndrome, i.e. the total destruction of the lungs. We caught up with Professor Bachinsky, to find out how he came to this conclusion, and how people can protect themselves from this disease.
Professor, you said earlier that the virus, from which many people have died – is a mixture of types of parainfluenza and influenza A/H1N1. How do you cure this disease?
The question of how to treat this virus is not up to me. I am a pathologist. I just found out what it is and made an exact diagnosis. It is important to provide the correct treatment based on diagnosis.
There are strict protocols and standards of treatment in medicine. If a doctor treats a patient who dies, their relatives can make a complaint that they were not treated properly (misdiagnosed). The Ministry of Health has set the protocols and standards of treatment for each diagnosis. If diagnosed correctly, the treatment should be correct...
In the Chernivtsi region 18 people have died. We studied all the history and evidence from this disease, preclinical, clinical, resuscitation. When we perform an autopsy organs and tissues have histological studies (cell analysis) and we concluded that it was not pneumonia, and has no relation to pneumonia whatsoever.
These results are the foundation to ensure that doctors who treat this disease all over Ukraine, change their tactics and standards of care.
Can this new virus be cured?
It depends on the immune system. If a person’s immune system is strong, they will overcome it. There are people who carry this strain of H1N1 and remain on their feet and don’t even realise they are sick.
Antibiotics definitely should not be taken. Antibiotics are the reason we have such a high mortality and infection rate in this country, because people go to the pharmacy, describe their symptoms to the pharmacist and ask for drugs. They buy antibiotics, take them, this lowers their immune system and as a result they become sick. If prescriptions were required to buy these medications, like in other countries, this would not have happened. It is the ability to buy antibiotics over the counter without a prescription which has done so much harm to the State.
During autopsies, what did the lungs look like? Were they really black, which gave rise to so much talk of pulmonary plague?
No, they are not black... This is not pneumonic plague. It’s all nonsense. Pneumonic plague has a very different morphology. We have, for example, 60 thousand people who became sick and 23 have died. With pulmonary plague, we would now have a mortality rate of 59 thousand...
This is a viral attack that destroys the lungs.
It turns out that not only in Bukovina, but also throughout the Ukraine people did not die from pneumonia, but from this toxic strain?
Yes, It’s not pneumonia! This destruction of the lungs. This strain is very toxic, and if the immune system is weak, there is bleeding in the lungs. In the lungs there is a tiny structure – acinus, which looks like a bunch of grapes. When you breathe, oxygen enters this tiny “bunch of grapes” ( pulmonary alveoli ). On the surface of the acinus are the capillaries, where red blood cells saturate with oxygen and give blood, which supplies all tissues and organs in the body.
And once the virus enters the lungs – hemorrhaging begins immediately in the acinus. A continuous hemorrhage... It takes several hours. In the blood fibrin is formed, and from it – giolinovaya membrane, resembling a plastic bag. It envelops the acinus, and the person breathes in oxygen, but it is not transferred to the tissues. And people just gasp. There is a cardio-pulmonary insufficiency and cardiogenic shock. People die of cardiogenic shock. And there is no pneumonia. Pneumonia – an inflammation, which is treated with antibiotics. Antibiotics cannot help at any stage. There should be absolutely different treatment.
And how about Tamiflu – does it help?
This is not an antibiotic, it is an antiviral drug, which should be applied on the second or third day of the disease. But you can not use Tamiflu as a preventitive, because it is toxic.*
What are the best measures to resist the disease? Is it advisable to use a mask, garlic, vitamin C?
The primary method of prevention is a face mask. This give 30% extra protection. If you wear glasses [goggles]*– it is 40%, because the virus enters through the mucous membranes.
It is necessary to improve the human immune system. Not only now, but in general. Garlic, onions, wild rose, viburnum (guelder rose), raspberries, citrus fruit, honey, and other fruits and vegetables – whatever you want. Those with a strong immune system will survive. Those with weaker immune systems will succumb to the disease.
We have a lot of people in Ukraine who like shopping at the open markets. If we can avoid open markets, the less people will be in contact with each other and more lives will be saved.
You have contacted the Health Ministry and advised them to review the standards for treatment of patients. What did they say?
We sent them all our data, the necessary protocols and standards of treatment, our diagnosis. But it is clear that decisions cannot be instantaneous.
And why until now has nobody else known about this disease? What were the leading specialists in the Ministry of Health doing all this time?
Perhaps this is due to the fact that there are scientists who are working on a purely theoretical basis. And there are scientists who have seen the autopsy results. I practice as head of the regional forensic bureau and as a professor. The fact that we have established this diagnosis – it is not just to my credit, and this is not my personal opinion. This is the opinion of specialists, morphologists and doctors in Bukovina. There are five professors in our group – I just head the group.
Professor Victor Bachinsky, M.D.*is a coroner in the Chernivtsi region of Ukraine.*He also teaches*at the Department of Anatomical Pathology and Forensic Medicine of Bukovynian State Medical Academy.
Original interview in Russian by Anna Yashchenko published by Unian: www.unian.net/rus/news/news-346721.html

[Northern Boy]

I thought I read on this thread where some said they were going to get a new Beagle thanks for the post T-bird

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Thunderbird

Found this*translated from Russian concerning Ukraine black lung pandemic...

Here's a thread on that (but there have been no responses):

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17630

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Northern Boy

I thought I read on this thread where some said they were going to get a new Beagle

?