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information on Ancient Races,
as, well as, The Blue race




Description: The Blues are said to have translucent skin, large almond shaped eyes extremely sensitive to light and small of stature.

Origin: They claim to be descendants of Noah who traveled to the Western Hemisphere a few centuries following the deluge and discovered ancient antediluvian cavern systems and ancient technologies which had been abandoned by the antediluvians in deep subterranean recesses. They have been encountered mostly in deep cavern-systems beneath the general region of the Ozarks-Arkansas and surrounding regions.

Attitude : These peaceful people may, according to some accounts, be allied to the 'Nordics' and/or 'Blondes'.


Allegedly encountered on the moon by our US astronauts according to John Lear and others.

According to Morningsky (Hopi/Apache dancer) the first alien contact started about 1947 - 1948 with the Greys contacting the U.S. Government to form a treaty with them. Another body of Aliens arrived, called the Blues. The Blues advised the government not to deal with the Greys saying it would only lead to disaster. They told the U.S. to follow your own path. They said they would teach with peace and harmony if men would disarm and listen. The military said no deal. (This information can also be verified through the MJ12 papers MS ) So they left, but a few decided to remain and stayed in Northern Mexico and Arizona and made a treaty with the Hopi Indians. These Aliens are known by the Hopi as Star Warriors. The Greys started monitoring the Blues. So the Blues had to flee the reservation and go into hiding, a few of the Elders went with them.

The Hopi legend is that there were two races, the children of the feather who came from the skies, and the children of the reptile who came from under the earth. The children of the reptile chased the Hopi Indians out of the earth; these evil under-grounders were also called two hearts

Mark Miller

As a student of anthropology some 30 years ago, I stumbled across reference to a former race of humanoids that were blue. Once, in addition to the four known races of mankind, there was a fifth race that dwelled on an unknown continent in the middle of the ocean between Asia and Europe (i.e., North America). This race, the most ancient of all, was called the Blue Moovians. They were very tall, about seven feet, and very thin, and had extremely large heads. They possessed all manners of powers of the mind: teleportation, telekinesis, ESP. One day, in response to a stimulus known only to them, they conveyed to regular humans that they had, through their powers of astral projection, located a planet more suitable to their needs in a far distant solar system or galaxy, and all at once they each and every one disappeared from the face of the earth and teleported themselves there, never to be seen or heard from again. This supposedly occurred about 60,000 BC. --Mark S. Miller


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- TWO INTERESTING BOOKS by my good friend MARY

Living in the Light – Believe in the Magic

Price $25.00 w/Free Shipping and Handling


Living in the Light has been written to establish a meaningful perspective for our daily life and spirituality.
Within these chapters the veils of secrecy shall be lifted exposing certain truths that have been hidden from our eyes for far too long. An integration of psychology, modern science, physics, Eastern and Western religions and plain old common horse sense interplay throughout these pages examine the mystical dynamics of the world we live in.


“Revelations – Truths Revealed “

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In accordance with the Jewish Kabbalists, the civilization of Atlantis was advanced far beyond ours and had brought about their own destruction by disregarding the wisdom of the great teachers, choosing power and materialism over transcendence.
On the back of a dollar bill, one can find a pyramid and the all-seeing Eye of Horus which strongly suggests that not only were our founding fathers the ‘Followers of Horus” but believed it was their destiny to re-build this nation from the ‘ashes of the Phoenix’.
Sir Francis Bacon asserted in his book, New Atlantis, that whatever was going to be built in North America would be Atlantean in its basic archetypal pattern and destiny path, and at some point it would rise to the level of global dominion. Then it would, like ancient Atlantis, have to make a choice between power ‘for the sake of service’ and power for the ‘sake of more power’… and as it decided, ‘the fate of the world would be determined.’

In the writing of this book, it is my desire to enlighten the reader on the true history of North America and our ancestral heritage that took root back when the people of this earth lived together as “one nation…on one continent( before it divided into the continents we have today) …under the ‘Law of One’…”
The United States ‘Pledge of Allegiance’, “One Nation… Indivisible…with Liberty and Justice for All” strongly indicates that our founding fathers not only knew the true history of North America, but believed this country to be the homeland of ancient Atlantis.
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Lester, The Marverick, asked me to post this:

The Psycheans are benevolent human extraterrestrials
who have bases in various places on the planet (Earth).
I found out about them after meeting an ufo contactee
by name of Oscar Magocsi in Toronto,Canada some 29 years ago.
Oscar was a real cool guy & eventually under his guidance
I managed to meet the Psycheans physically...
Well they, the Psycheans look exactly like us
& one characteristic that I noticed
is they are very psychic
& maybe that is why they call themselves the Psycheans.

Since the Psycheans look exactly like us then pretty well
the only way to recognize them is through psychic means
so it's mostly very intuitive quite
psychic humans who manage to recognize them.

The Psycheans are allied with many other human ETs like the Plaedians, the Arcturians or the Lyrians.

Well, Oscar Magocsi eventually wrote a book about his own meetings
with the Psycheans & the book is called
'My Space Odyssey in UFOs".
This book is available from me if someone wants it ($32 Canadian plus $11 shipping).

Some of the Psycheans even became part of our history like
"Jason & the Argonauts". It's more than a legend: it really happened...

Sincerely, Lester - maverick4981@yahoo.com

(Lester came to the meeting in toronto on feb 1/2009)

now, i have never meet Psycheans-and, never heard of them,
however, Lester, is quite an interesting fellow, so, perhaps,
others who follow, ufo stuff, will know of Oscar Magocsi

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Super Spice Secrets: Can This Miracle Spice Stop Cancer, Alzheimer's and Arthritis?

turmeric, curcumin, india, herbs, spices, cancer, alzheimer's, arthritis

By Dr. Mercola


For more than 5,000 years, turmeric has been an important part of Eastern cultural traditions, including traditional Chinese medicine and Ayurveda. Valued for its medicinal properties and warm, peppery flavor, this yellow-orange spice has more recently earned a name for itself in Western medicine as well.

Turmeric comes from the root of the Curcuma longa plant, which is native to Indonesia and southern India, and is widely used as an ingredient in curry dishes and yellow mustard. As research into this powerful spice has increased, it has emerged as one of nature’s most powerful potential healers.

Said Dr. David Frawely, founder and director of the American Institute for Vedic Studies in Santa Fe, New Mexico:

“If I had only one single herb to depend upon for all possible health and dietary needs, I would without much hesitation choose the Indian spice Turmeric. There is little it cannot do in the realm of healing and much that no other herb is able to accomplish.

Turmeric has a broad spectrum of actions, mild but certain effects, and is beneficial for long term and daily usage. Though it is a common spice, few people, including herbalists know of its great value and are using it to the extent possible. It is an herb that one should get to know and live with.”

Turmeric’s Beneficial Effects in a Nutshell

Strengthens and improves digestion

* Reduces gas and bloating
* Assists in the digestion of protein and with rice and bean dishes
* Improves your body's ability to digest fats
* Promotes proper metabolism, correcting both excesses and deficiencies
* Maintains and improves intestinal flora
* Improves elimination of wastes and toxins

Supports healthy liver function and detox

* Turmeric helps increase bile flow making it a liver cleanser that can rejuvenate your liver cells and recharge their capability to break down toxins
* Helps to prevent alcohol and other toxins from being converted into compounds that may be harmful to your liver
* Supports formation of healthy tissue

Purifies your blood

* Stimulates formation of new blood tissue
* Anti-inflammatory: Helps to reduce irritation to tissues characterized by pain, redness, swelling and heat

Contains curcuminoids that fight cancer, arthritis, and Alzheimer’s

* Curcuminoids are potent phytonutrients (plant-based nutrients) that contain powerful antioxidant properties
* Counteract the damaging effects of free radicals in your body
* Relieve arthritis pain and stiffness, anti-inflammatory agent
* Anti-carcinogenic: “Curcumin has been shown to prevent a large of number of cancers in animal studies. Laboratory data indicate that curcumin can inhibit tumor initiation, promotion, invasion, angiogenesis and metastasis.”[1]
* Supports treatment of Alzheimer’s disease: “Because Alzheimer's disease is caused in part by amyloid-induced inflammation, curcumin has been shown to be effective against Alzheimer's. Clinical trials are in progress at UCLA with curcumin for Alzheimer's.”[2]

Curcumin: Turmeric’s Active Anti-Inflammatory “Ingredient”

Most notably turmeric is known for its potent anti-inflammatory properties, which come from curcumin -- the pigment that gives turmeric its yellow-orange color, and which is thought to be responsible for many of its medicinal effects. There are an estimated three to five grams of curcumin in 100 grams of turmeric.

Curcumin has been shown to influence more than 700 genes, and it can inhibit both the activity and the synthesis of cyclooxygenase-2 (COX2) and 5-lipooxygenase (5-LOX), as well as other enzymes that have been implicated in inflammation.[3]

Turmeric’s Cancer-Fighting Properties

In India where turmeric is widely used, the prevalence of four common U.S. cancers -- colon, breast, prostate and lung -- is 10 times lower. In fact, prostate cancer, which is the most frequently diagnosed cancer in U.S. men, is rare in India and this is attributed, in part, to turmeric.

Numerous studies have looked into this potential cancer-fighting link, with promising results. For instance, curcumin has been found to:

* Inhibit the proliferation of tumor cells
* Inhibit the transformation of cells from normal to tumor
* Help your body destroy mutated cancer cells so they cannot spread throughout your body
* Decrease inflammation
* Enhance liver function
* Inhibit the synthesis of a protein thought to be instrumental in tumor formation
* Prevent the development of additional blood supply necessary for cancer cell growth

As for the results of research studies, a study in Biochemical Pharmacology found that curcumin can slow the spread of breast cancer cells to the lungs in mice.[4]

"Curcumin acts against transcription factors, which are like a master switch," said lead researcher, Bharat Aggarwal. "Transcription factors regulate all the genes needed for tumors to form. When we turn them off, we shut down some genes that are involved in the growth and invasion of cancer cells."

A second study in Biochemical Pharmacology also found that curcumin inhibits the activation of NF-kappaB, a regulatory molecule that signals genes to produce a slew of inflammatory molecules (including TNF, COX-2 and IL-6) that promote cancer cell growth.[5]

Turmeric’s Essential Role for Your Liver

Your liver’s primary role is to process and remove toxins carried in your bloodstream. When functioning at its peak, it can filter up to two liters of blood per minute and easily break apart toxic molecules to reduce their toxicity. Your liver is also a crucial part of vitamin, mineral, protein, fat, carbohydrate and hormonal metabolism.

However, poor diet, allergens, pollution and stress can cause your liver to become sluggish, and this can impair its vital functions. This is where turmeric can be a very useful part of your liver support system. Studies have shown that it:

* May increase important detoxification enzymes in your liver
* Induces the formation of a primary liver detoxification enzyme, glutathione S-transferase (GST) enzymes

Turmeric is also a natural cholagogue, a medicinal agent that promotes the discharge of bile from your system. Increased bile flow is important to help your liver detoxify and to help your body digest fats.

Turmeric for Your Heart, Brain and Overall Health

Turmeric inhibits free radical damage of fats, including cholesterol. When cholesterol is damaged in this way, or oxidized, it can then damage your blood vessels and lead to a heart attack or stroke. Therefore, research suggests that turmeric’s ability to prevent the oxidation of cholesterol may be beneficial for your heart. It’s also rich in vitamin B6, high intakes of which are associated with a reduced risk of heart disease.

Meanwhile, turmeric appears to be highly protective against neurodegenerative diseases. In fact, in India levels of neurological diseases such as Alzheimer’s are very low, and studies have shown that curcumin can slow the progression of Alzheimer’s in mice. The compound has also proven capable of blocking the progression of multiple sclerosis.

Further, Professor Moolky Nagabhushan from the Loyola University Medical Center, Chicago, IL, who has been studying turmeric for the last 20 years, believes that turmeric can protect against harmful environmental chemicals, and in so doing protect against childhood leukemia. The research showed that curcumin in turmeric can:[7]

* Inhibit the toxicity of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) (cancer-causing chemicals in the environment)
* Inhibit radiation-induced chromosome damage
* Prevent the formation of harmful heterocyclic amines and nitroso compounds, which may result in the body when eating certain processed foods, such as processed meat products
* Irreversibly inhibit the multiplication of leukemia cells in a cell culture

Turmeric's volatile oils also have external anti-bacterial action. As such, they may help prevent bacterial wound infections and accelerate wound healing. Johnson & Johnson even sells a curcumin-containing Band-Aid in India!

And the therapeutic potential of turmeric and curcumin do not end there. Evidence suggests the spice may also be beneficial for:

* Cystic fibrosis
* Type 2 diabetes
* Crohn’s disease
* Psoriasis
* Rheumatoid arthritis

* Cataracts
* Gallstones
* Muscle regeneration
* Inflammatory bowel disease

Which Type of Turmeric is Best?

For use in cooking, choose a pure turmeric powder, rather than a curry powder. At least one study has found that curry powders tend to contain very little curcumin, compared to turmeric powder. Turmeric is also available in supplement form and for many this is a more convenient method to obtain these health benefits discussed above, especially if they are from a high-quality organic source and if one doesn’t particularly enjoy the taste of curry.

On my recent trip to India I was able to find a company called Organic India that produces probably some of the best Indian herbs on the planet.
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- Interesting work from MARY:

Photo taken by Brad Sutherland while we were investigating the ancient ruins of Aztalan

PHOTOS can be found at:

stone 1
http://webmail.aol.com/41421/aol/en-...Mail&part Id=7

<img src="http://webmail.aol.com/41421/aol/en-us/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=1.21439022&folder=NewMail&part Id=7">
stone 2
http://webmail.aol.com/41421/aol/en-...Mail&part Id=8

stone 3
http://webmail.aol.com/41421/aol/en-...Mail&part Id=9

Zola’s grandson found these artifacts while digging up the soil in her rose garden. The area is south of Aztalan, not far from the Wisconsin and Kickapoo Rivers, in the USA

Reader: Zola

The Beltane Fire Festival is the present day practice which evolved from the ancient ceremonies of human sacrifice to Bel, represented by the sun and fire. Do you know when the custom at the Crow Hollow mound (Kickapoo Valley – See Mary Sutherland’s book ‘Revelations’ on the Sacrificial Mound of Crow Hollow MS) ceased to be practiced? Somehow I know that the bearer of the stone was up there. Why did the powers that be want the stone to be found in my garden at the bottom of a two foot hole dug by my grandson SEAN in order to plant a rose bush?

The "Stone", according to the inscription, is from the late Bronze Age (about 800 -1000 B.C.) much older than the Irish Ogam because it omits the vowels. The only source of reference seems to be the one from Vermont in weathered condition. "The inscription reads "Stone of Bel," but when complete it probably read "Stone of Beltane". Since my stone appears to be "complete". I wonder what Ogam mark would have made it read Bel "tane." The deciphering of the Ogam script is fascinating and beyond my scope, but maybe the message has already been delivered.

(Bel-tone = ‘Bel’ + ‘ton’ from A-ton which would be more accurate than Bel-“tane” unless of course “tane” is simply an anagram used to represent Aton”. Tane= A-ten , with the vowels e and o being interchangeable MS )

What you wrote about the discovery of a stele in Oklahoma with the inscription in Iberian Punic, the same as on the "Stone of Bel", extracted from the "hymn to the Aton" by Pharaoh Akhenaten. I retrieved a book given to me before I left the Four Corners. It's a Sci-Fi novel written by Daniel Blair Stewart and based on Akhenaten, but titled "AKHUNATON the Extraterrestrial King". This is written on the back of the title page:

Genesis, Chapter 6, verse 4:

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children unto them, the same became mighty men, which were of old, men of reknown.

Mary Continues with Part Three:

"The Snake, the Bear, the Smooth White Stone, the Sacred Red Flow-er and most important, I am the Sacred Kingfisher...from the blood who also gave you the Wild Dog which is the Egyptian War Dog, known as the dingo. I am the Living Sun Dance. Red is my hair. Green is my Eyes. Fair is my Skin and hooked is my Nose. I am the Promised Bird King" The Aboriginal of the Finders Rangers have already declared me so. The place where it was declared is a place called BELTANA. To them I am POPPADIDGEEDIDGEE.


The snake traveled the world and finally bit its own tail back to Australia, from where the Lightning Brothers came. These two men were the biblical MOSES AND AARON, but known to the Egyptians as the Pharaohs AHKTANATEN and SMENKARE. They were not the leader of their people, but it was the sacred sister MIRIAMON or MIRIAM, known to the Egyptians as NEFERTITI.

They died in South Australia after deciding not to take the STAR FIRE any longer. (The star fire was a gift from the 'gods' for immortality). They brought with them the LAW and the sacred color RED. The one "outstanding" life form they left behind was the EGYPTIAN WAR DOG, now called the DINGO. (Canari – CAN)

The daughter traveled with the AID OF FLIGHT and moved through Asia to the North of Australia leaving the DINGO and the STORY OF THE SACRED KINGFISHER along the way until arriving in NOVA SCOTIA. She brought the sacred dog to North America along with the Law. In North America the Dingo became known as the CAROLINA WILD DOG. .

The PROMISE OF THE BIRD KING is fulfilled in the Time of Darkness.....from now on the truth will come forth.

"Red is his hair and hooked his nose. Fair is his skin and green are his eyes" The same description as all tribal people throughout the world have...He is THE BEAR, THE SNAKE, THE SMOOTH WHITE STONE, THE EAGLE, THE SACRED KINGFISHER AND THE RED FLOWER CALLED THE ROSE. (http://www.burlingtonnews.net/rocklake4)

“In Fourteen Hundred and Nine Two,
Columbus sailed the ocean Blue,
To prove that the old maps were true”

Interestingly the third line of this childhood verse was conveniently dropped. The third line indicates that Columbus was not the first discover of the Americas - but actually came here using an ancient map of a race long before his time.

Not only in Europe and the Mid-East, but evidence of these people - their travel - their trade and culture can also be traced to the CANary Islands, which links these ancient people through the root CAN in CAN ary and CANaanites.

Most people “assume” that the name CANARY (canari) originated from the discovery of the yellow birds that populated that area. Not true - According to the Latin definition of Canari, it means ’DOG’ (CAN-ine). When Roman ships visited the islands in the Second Century BC, the original inhabitants revered the dog as a 'SACRED BEING' The Romans called these inhabitants of the Islands ' Dog People’. The islanders veneration of the dog resembles the Egyptians belief in ANUBIS, the dog headed sprit guide who led the souls from the material world , through the veil, to the other side into the afterlife. (In Pharaonic Egypt, at Cynopolis, or 'DOG CITY’, literally tens of thousands of mummified dogs were found buried.) This type of dog ritual can also be found in Aztalan, Wisconsin.

Off the coast of West Africa lie the Canary Islands, which became home to the Guanches. The greatest link we have between the Guanches and the Egyptians comes in the form of pyramids. Using the exact model as those found in ancient Egypt and in Mesopotamia, the Guanches built several small step pyramids on the islands, having an east-west alignment.

These people were described as generally dolichocephalic and fair-featured with blond or red-hair. Males stood over six foot tall with their women approaching six feet in height. Their women were beautiful and many of the
Spanish Gentlemen took them for their wives among the population. The belief that the ancient Canarians were a people favored by a great duration of life became popular at the time of the Spanish Conquest. Many of the early explorers, including Columbus, went there in search of the “Fountain of Youth”. ([The Early Inhabitants of the Canary Islands, By Alf Bajocco, 1965 Part IV cont. http://geocities.com/MotorCity/Factory/2583/Canary4.htm, D. Clarke webmaster]

Reference: Jonah G. Lissner

The Guanches worshipped the God of the Sun and of Higher Thought, known to them as “MEN-cey”.
The First Egyptian Pharoahs called themselves MENE-es. Ancient Egyptian Writings speak of the great ‘god/kings’ who came before the Pharaohs, describing them to be men of other lands who became ‘Gods of Wisdom” before migrating to Egypt. One of them was known to them as “THOTH” who was designated by historians and Egyptologists as the “Egyptian God of Writing and Wisdom”. The ancient Egyptians spoke of Thoth as being born in a distant country to the WEST, across the ‘Great body of water”.

A catastrophe occurred which darkened the sun and disturbed the gods, but Thoth led them across the sea to an EASTERN country [Egypt]. Thoth is depicted as the "controller of the Flood," (Leyden Papyrus) and the Theban Recension includes the Island of Flame in the Flood story. (Papyrus of Ani, Chap. CLXXV)

In Chapter LXXXV of the Book of the Dead, Thoth rules the "WESTERN DOMAIN," and by the end of the New Kingdom he is called "LORD OF THE WEST". (Seth, 1912) Thoth is depicted standing in sht htp [the "field of peace" known to the Greeks as the Elysian Fields], holding his writing quill and palette. The question is pertinent: Was Thoth an Atlantean god-king? [R. Cedric Leonard, http://www.atlantisquest.com/Hiero.html]

Proto-Guanche Explorations to the New World

The Asiatic Indians of Central and South America, traditionally referred to as the indigenous peoples of the New World, although increasing evidence is pointing to a multi-cultural pre-Columbian New World of varying ethnic Asiatic groups as well as Caucasians and proto-humanoid beings of more archaic age, referred to the Columbians as QUETZALCOATL, referring to the plumed serpent-god of the heavens which would return in the form of a white, bearded man in the year 1519 CE (by the calendar of the Europeans of the time); this date was venerated by the Aztecs in TENOCHTITLAN as an eschatological date and preparations were made by the court astrologers of the palace of Montezuma for their return. Other tribes of the New World in both Central and South America also venerated these wise, bearded white men for their previous incarnations and flying canoes which had brought culture, peace and prosperity to these regions in the remote past.


Frank Joseph, THE LOST PYRAMIDS OF ROCK LAKE, backs the belief that the God/Kings came from the WEST. He writes of the Egyptians description of a pre-dynastic invasion of the Nile Delta by a 'seafaring people' from the DISTANT WEST . These people were known as the MESUNTIU. The Egyptian word for FOUNDRY is MESNET, so it is safe to assume that these people had the knowledge of metal working.

It was written that the MESENTIU were the people that established Egypt's FIRST ROYAL FAMILY. An event found often in Egyptian Art symbolizes this event in the Falcon Sun God, HORUS, wielding a harpoon from his boat against a hippopotamus. The hippopotamus is the symbol for the pre-dynastic natives.


Reference: Evidence for the Ancestors of the Guanches as Founders of Predynastic Egypt ,JONAH G. LISSNER

According to Jonah G. Lissner, author of “Evidence for the Ancestors of the Guanches as Founders of Pre-dynastic Egypt” there is a clear link to Egypt and the Canary Islands through MEN-CEY. Lissner claims that throughout the Ancient Egyptian history there are references to men of 'other lands' who were GODS OF WISDOM 'BEFORE' migrating to Lower Egypt. One of these GOD KINGS was THOTH, known to the Egyptians as DJEHEUTY, who was given the title, “God of Wisdom, Inventor of writing, Patron of Scribes and the Divine Mediator’. He was depicted as a ‘man with the the head of an Ibis, a scribal palette and reed pen. Thoth was born in a distant country to the West, across the great body of water. Its capital city was by the sea and the land possessed volcanoes. Like Plato's Atlantis, this land had a low mountain or large hill in the center and was sometimes referred to as the “Isle of Flame” (Book of the Dead, Hymn of Rameses IV and Pyramid Texts)

A catastrophe occurred which darkened the sun and disturbed the gods, but Thoth led them across the sea to an “Eastern Country, Egypt.” THOTH is also depicted as the “Controller of the Flood” (Leyden Papyrus) and the Theban Recension includes the Island of Flame in the Flood story. (Papyrus of Ani, Chap. CLXXV)

In Chapter LXXXV of the Book of the Dead, Thoth rules the "Western Domain” and by the end of the New Kingdom he is called "LORD OF THE WEST. ". (Seth, 1912)


Dogs were the only known animal domesticated by the inhabitants of Aztalan. These animals were provided with ritual funerals, including grave goods in the form of intentionally broken pottery symbolizing mourning and the end of physical existence. The dog was likewise revered at Aztalan's sister city, Angel Mounds, located on the banks of the Ohio River in southern Indiana. The Cahokians were also found to share this same culture and reverence towards the dog.


I am sure that most of you have heard the term blue bloods and the pride some take in stating that their families come from this lineage.
But have you ever stopped to consider where this term comes from? Well you are now going to find out!

The reason these First Royal Families were called Blue Bloods is plain and simple - They actually did have blue blood! It was not hemoglobin based which is common in most human species, but copper based. This would clearly indicate that these First Families were not PURE HUMAN BUT HALF BREEDS OR SEMI HUMAN.
Impossible you say...not if you considerer that copper based blood systems exist to this day in some animal species in South America.
It was for this very reason, an ancient LAW was creating stating these First Families were NOT to marry what they referred to as commoners. Not because they were prejudice, but there was problems with HEMOPHILIA with children born outside of the copper based blood line. Hemoglobin and Copper blood systems did not mix.

To Be Continued…


Mary Sutherland

532 N. Pine Street

Burlington, WI 53105

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pilling The Beans: The Trouble with Soy

By Lorette C. Luzajic

It never crossed my mind that soy - a favourite health food - might be toxic and dangerous. It wasn't the first time. Bottled water, margarine, and gluten grains all come to mind. But soy? The wonder bean?

I was faithful to the plant. I'd been a vegetarian for five years and though I now enjoy the multitude of benefits and gourmand delight that meat and seafood offer, I trusted in plants. Soy was something I'd celebrated, along with everyone else in Vancouver, in my hippie years. Later, even the men in my life enjoyed my "I Can't Believe it's Not Meat" stir fries. After moving back into the omnivore's diet that nature gave me, I still loved miso soup for breakfast and made an effort to regularly enjoy soy proteins.

Who didn't? Even Dad's got soymilk in the fridge- it's great for preventing prostate cancer, right? Even people who never got used to the taste- or shall I admit tastelessness- of soy added it in hopes of reaping the benefits of those amazing nutrients. Isoflavones, genisteins, lectins, saponins, and phytoestrogens- don't these wonderful names signal a whole host of cancer fighting, heart disease preventing, cholesterol-lowering miracles?

What if I said that those fancy words are actually toxins and the soya bean is naturally loaded with all of them? What if I told you that big business soy ran campaigns like Soy 2000 to convince us that these antinutrients were beneficial? What if I told you that soy is not a complete protein, is not widely used in Asia, and is incredibly dangerous for human consumption? What if I told you that the Food and Drug Administration lists soy as a poisonous plant?

The thyroid is a tiny butterfly-shaped gland in the throat. The rate of thyroid problems in North America is epidemic, especially among women. It's so common to have a thyroid disorder that it's easy to forget that's not the natural state of being. Because the thyroid regulates the entire endocrine system, the metabolism, and more, it's a very important body part. The most common disorder is hypothyroidism. This means the thyroid does not produce very much thyroid hormone, and the resulting quagmire of ailments is distressing to say the least - exhaustion, overweight, depression, hair that is dry, falls out, or won't grow, brittle nails, anxiety, skin disorders, feeling too hot or too cold all the time, menstrual problems, metabolic disorders, recurring infections, immune system fall-out, and a whole lot of other fun stuff. Untreated thyroid problems, or a thyroid that responds poorly to lifestyle change and medication, are gateways for a whole host of Hellish things from fibromyalgia to cancer.

When I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism many years ago, it was something of a relief, despite the fact I was not thrilled to have a chronic and serious gland problem. But even less thrilling was the depression that had always hovered around me- I'm a cheerful, festive sort of person, and the unshakeable melancholy didn't seem like me. Worse still was the unexplainable weight gain and the exhaustion and picking up every last cold and flu and Bell's Palsy, a lovely thing that damages the facial nerves and has given me the lopsided features some find sexy, and my 'sneer'. Finding a reason for this slew of complaints that forced me take medical leave from work gave me hope for a vibrant future, or at least one I could make the best of.

The doctor suggested a few ways to support my health in addition to simply popping pills. I was mildly surprised that I was told to avoid soy foods. I learned the word 'goitrogen,' read a bit about thyroid-suppressing foods. I stopped eating all soy foods but didn't make a big deal- I also learned that peanuts, broccoli, and cabbage all have thyroid suppressing properties. Those were good healthy plants, too, just something to avoid the way fibromyalgia patients should avoid nightshade plants or celiacs should avoid wheat. Nothing more.

One day, my godchildren's mother was over, and she asked if I thought soymilk was safe for the kids. Safe? Never thought about it. The vegan girl in the circle said enthusiastically, "yes, of course," without question, which bothered me straight off the bat. Soymilk is way modern and loaded with sugar. For those reasons alone, I would have to say I wasn't sure. Julie borrowed a couple of my nutrition books. I had no idea whether soy was bad for everyone's thyroid or just mine, so I said I'd look it up.

I put on my Nancy Drew outfit and began some nutritional detective work. A clue here and there, some secret passages, a couple of bad guys named phytates and lectins later, I realized I was in the middle of a big ol' can of worms and the only way out was through, down the rabbit hole.

It all starts out rather confusingly- after all, hadn't everyone's favourite health dude Dr. Earl Mindell dubbed the nutrition phenomenon, "The Soy Miracle"? Sure enough, Mindell's Soy Miracle assures me (innocently enough, as the year is 1995, before the mother load of research gets unearthed) that soy is a good food for me. In fact, he writes about how beneficial it is to my thyroid. "Soy may somehow stimulate the thyroid gland to produce more hormone," he writes. This is immediately suspect, as the thyroid-lowering connection is well known, well established, and not controversial. A few pages extol the virtues of the perfect protein and cancer fighting wonder food. The rest shows a bunch of groovy recipes like the Tempeh Reuben sandwich.

Sounds tempting - but it sure doesn't take long in my new detective hat to see some suspicious handshaking. The good doctor thanks the United Soybean Board and Soy Foods Association of America straight off the bat for their help. Hmmmm...

Go figure- looks like many of us forgot the obvious adage Mom told us: if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Think about this: who told you that Asians eat a lot of soy, that they have for thousands of years, that they eat it instead of animal protein, and that soy is why they are so healthy? Soy is monk food, and what could be kinder or healthier than a monk's vegetarian diet?

So who said all this? Your Asian family or friends? Not mine. And here's something shocking: none of it is true.

It was one of the biggest industries in the world, soygriculture, who told you this. I thought it, too, but then I realized I don't really know a lot of Asian families intimately enough to know their customs. The ones I do know cook a great deal of pork, delicious vegetables and rice.

Bur Dr. Mindell says, "In many parts of Asia, soy foods are a dietary staple." But simply looking beyond the Soy Board's claims into history and anthropology, it doesn't take long at all to find out that in fact, the Chinese eat massive amounts of eggs and pork, and very little soy.

Mindell touts how Japan enjoys the longest life span, lower rates of colon, lung, breast and prostate cancer. "Judge for yourself," he says. And we did. We were presented with seemingly obvious information, but advertising is what it was. Because the truth is much different, and lower Asian cancer rates just might be from the lack of un-food in Asian diets and the masses of seafood they consume. The Japanese eat a few TABLESPOONS of soy a day as a condiment.

Monk food? Clean protein? The roots of soy are much more humble. Soybeans were used as crop fertilizer and livestock feed. Knowing soy could be harmful raw, the resourceful Asians made an art out of fermenting techniques to make them digestible. Hence, miso and tempeh, the most edible forms of soy, are important arts in Asian history. What about the nice monks? Moby's sarcasm may not be far off- does the high estrogen content in soy messes with testosterone, making monastic life a little easier on the celibate?

Still, what's the big deal? So it's not Asia's star dish. It's still the picture perfect glow of rosy health, right? A complete protein, low in fat, fighting off cancers and osteoporosis, lowering cholesterol, non-allergenic, brain-building, green, low carbon footprint, and yummy, too - right?

Not so fast. Concerned consumers in both the carnivore gourmands and the garden of Vegan groups are starting to suspect the reality might be more like this: gas, bloating, infant starvation, moobs, a whole host of thyroid problems, coronary disease, anaphylactic shock, Alzheimer's, serious endocrine disorders, a range of menstrual abnormalities and 'female problems,' cancer, low or nonexistent libido, puberty before age ten, hair loss and more. Could it really be? Aren't all of these things among the endless problems soy was going to prevent?

Hundreds of doctors and scientists and consumer advocates worldwide are now expressing concern and caution over soy. But one has devoted her research in recent years to the alarming topic.

"In the mid 1990s I started noticing a lot of articles with headlines like the 'joy of soy' or 'soy of cooking' and was entranced by the claims that soy was good for personal health and also the planet," Dr. Kaayla T. Daniel says. "The reality was another story. I was seeing a lot of sick vegetarians and other health conscious people who ate a lot of soy and seemed to be suffering greatly from it. That aroused my curiosity and I began researching the subject."

She is not a messenger for the dairy industry - she is a citizen and scientist concerned with faulty propaganda and real food. She exposed the soy industry's endless dirty secrets in her book The Whole Soy Story: the Dark Side of America's Favorite Health Food.

While the vast sea of information online and in journals is confusing, jargon-riddled and often pits the debate as a vegetarian/meat-eater's one, Dr. Daniel's book is clear, organized, factual, meticulously documented, and explains all the hard words. Though Daniel, as a nutritionist, obviously sees wisdom in our natural hunter/gatherer diet, it's clear that soy is dangerous for meat eaters and vegetarians alike, and that we must all find alternative foods.

If only the problem were one little toxin. But it takes Daniel nearly 400 pages to cover all the info, plus 44 pages of study references, so that we can verify the sources for ourselves. "It was read for accuracy prior to publication by leading MDs, scientists and toxicologists. And my conclusions have certainly been validated by the recent warnings issued by the Israelis, French and Germans," Dr. Daniel says. This is solid science, but thankfully Daniel is also an engaging writer. "The studies come from a wide variety of sources - universities, clinics, FDA's Laboratory for Toxicological Research, USDA scientists, etc," she explains. "Many of the most damning studies were funded by the soy industry itself."

Here's a brief overview of Daniel's findings:

* soy oil was the first and primary profit centre for soy, and soy was largely responsible for the spread of hydrogenated or trans fats

* most soy is genetically modified

* soy farming is wreaking greater devastation on forests, cottage industries, and family farms than the cattle industry. (If you mistakenly thought soy was a bunch of hippie farmers, like I did, Dr. Daniel tells it like it is: "Let's name names. Monsanto, Dupont, Archer Daniels Midland, Solae . . . Nearly all the old hippie companies have been bought up by the big boys. For example, White Wave is owned by Dean Foods. Some of America's largest food companies now manufacture soy foods or use soy ingredients heavily in their products. Think Kraft, Kellogg, ConAgra, General Mills, Heinz, Unilever Best Foods and Dean Foods.")

* soy is a major allergen, and because it is used as filler in hundreds of products including meats and 'vegetable oil,' people with allergies may be at risk

* soy contains goitrogens, which damage the thyroid

* soy contains lectins, which cause red blood cells to lump together and may trigger abnormal immunity responses

* soy contains oligosaccarides, sugars that cause bloating and gas

* soy contains oxalates, which prevent calcium absorption, cause painful kidney stones and vulvodynia, a vaginal disorder

* many plant foods contain phytates and phytic acid, naturally occurring 'pesticides' to keep plants from being eaten while growing. phytates impair mineral absorption, and in fact, remove many minerals already in the body, including iron, zinc, and calcium. phytates in many foods are alleviated by cooking - soy's phytate levels are high and stubborn.

* isoflavones, lauded as natural estrogens, are serious endocrine disruptors, lowering testosterone, causing menstrual disorders, and cancer cell proliferation

* protease inhibitors interfere with digestive enzymes, saponins may lower good cholesterol and damage intestine

* that all of these plant chemicals can have benefits, and do exist in other foods, to varying levels of edibility: that soaking grains and fermenting beans are ancient food prep traditions

* soymilk is far from a natural food: it is filled with rancid fats and high in sugar

* soy cheeses are largely made with hydrogenated oils (safety level of hydrogenated products? ZERO)

* some health problems that may be associated with soy foods are: bladder, prostate, colorectal, thyroid and breast cancer; precancerous lesions; heart disease; type 2 diabetes; malnutrition; stunted growth; flatulence; pancreatic problems; low libido: early puberty; anemia; zinc deficiency; osteoporosis; intestinal damage; mal-absorption and leaky gut syndrome; kidney stones; allergies; infant death; immune system disruption; thyroid disease - and the list goes on.

This isn't the first time we've been concerned. Before the massive health movement of the late 80s and early 90s, all sorts of articles came out about soy safety. But hardly anyone liked the stuff anyhow, and vegetarians had yet to think of it as a food group. Soy decided to get a makeover, and save itself from the financial fallout that was nigh - when it's dirty toxic margarine secrets would inevitably leak out.

"By 1985, there was a considerable body of research from U.S. Government and university laboratories and British government institutions warning of the health dangers of soy foods, particularly to high-risk consumers such as infants and vegetarian women," says Dianne Gregg, writer of The Hidden Dangers of Soy, and survivor of soy-related illness that nearly killed her.

"These were published in scientific journals. In response, in 1985 the soy processing industry in the U.S. held a number of conferences and devised a program, 'Soy 2000,' the intent of which was to aggressively promote soy as a health food when they already knew it contained biologically active levels of toxins. This involved heavy political lobbying of Congress and Federal regulators, a vast advertising program, planting favorable articles in popular and academic media, obtaining huge Federal farming subsidies, and sponsorship of meetings by the U.S Department of Agriculture. The aim of Soy 2000 was to promote to the consumers that soy was a proven health food with no adverse effects. Their claim was that millions of Asians have been consuming soy in large quantities for thousands of years and are all remarkably healthy as a result. American consumers were expected to believe this, and most of us did!"

Soy's first incarnation in North American consumption was also a health food imposter. After millenniums of wisdom where humans used butter or lard or olive oil, good enough for the Bible and good enough for the world, suddenly margarine was "heart healthy" and "cholesterol-lowering." But lately, studies started talking about how heart disease INCREASED from this new artificial fat, hydrogenated margarine, which our body cannot recognize. OF course it did. This was not a real food.

Sound familiar? It is. Those who perceive of soy as innocent and concerned for your health may be surprised at how big a player soy was in the hydrogenation revolution. Most hydrogenated oil was soy. Now, even junk makers like chips and fast food have pulled these artificial fats out of their products. Hydrogenated oils are liquid plastic and they are poisonous. Most governments place safe consumption levels at ZERO.

Clearly soy, which still defends hydrogenation, did not then have our best health interests in mind, just profit. When the tide turned, they turned up the noise on how healthy soy is, and it became a health food, its history in margarine conveniently blotted from public consciousness.

While the health dangers are considerably ominous, not everyone is in immediate danger of death. But Dianne Gregg came within inches of her life.

Gregg had never been a vegetarian, but slim, health-conscious, and staring menopause head-on, she decided to take charge of her health and began eating soy. "I started to include soy protein drinks for breakfast, and protein bars as a snack. For eight years I was constantly nauseous, bloated, and gaining weight each year. I knew something was wrong but the doctors said it was normal and to accept that I was getting older. In April 2003, I had a soy veggie burger for dinner and that is what did me in. This was the first time I had one. The next morning I was rushed to the hospital because I thought I was having a heart attack ? but I went into anaphylactic shock."

"After four days in the intensive care unit, the doctors diagnosed food poisoning, but I didn't agree. By now I weighed 150lbs. That was more than I weighed in my ninth month of pregnancy!"

Dianne went home, and didn't eat much of anything for a while. When she recovered from her mystery illness, she started her day again with her soy health drink. She began having palpitations and other symptoms. Linking the reaction to the soy, she began her internet research, and found that in addition to very common and possibly deadly allergies, soy is implicated in hundreds of deadly or chronic diseases. Other consumers may not be linking their health problems with their health food. So Gregg wrote her book, The Hidden Dangers of Soy (www.hiddensoy.com).

"My intention was not to bash the soy industry but to make the public aware of what the Western version of soy contains, and that if they are not feeling like themselves, or are developing health issues, to try and eliminate soy and see if they don't feel better. In my book, I have testimonials from others with real horror stories that never attributed it to soy products."

Part of the 'hidden danger' is what's hidden. Gregg says that soy is hiding in everything from meat to chocolate to oil, so people hoping to avoid it don't usually do a good job. "The number of processed and manufactured foods that contain soy ingredients today is astounding. It can be hard to find foods that don't contain soy flour, soy oil, lecithin (extracted from soy oil and used as an emulsifier in high-fat products), soy protein isolates and concentrates, textured vegetable protein (TVP), hydrolyzed vegetable protein (usually made from soy) or unidentified vegetable oils. Most of what is labeled 'vegetable oil' in the U.S. is actually soy oil, as are most margarines. Soy oil is the most widely used oil in the U.S., accounting for more than 75 percent of our total vegetable fats and oil intake. It's found in margarine, shortenings, frozen dinners, canned tuna, mayonnaise, breads, cookies, crackers, canned soup, breakfast cereals, and fast foods to name a few."

Gregg says many women keep eating soy in hope of the benefits, and end up with hypothyroidism. While contributors to the thyroid epidemic may include hormonal birth control products, fluoride content in water, stress, and sugar, soy's strength as an endocrine disruptor should not be underestimated. Especially with soy hidden throughout many foods - you can't eat uncooked broccoli, another goitrogenic food, in high quantities by mistake, for example ? even those who choose not to eat soy may be eating a lot of soy!

Another person who is very concerned about thyroid health is Mary J. Shomon, a patient advocate and best-selling author, whose many books on thyroid and autoimmune diseases I have read and enjoyed, notably Living Well With Hypothyroidism. Shomon is not an anti-soy crusader by any stretch. Her research and advocacy is concerned only with the thyroid. She has no vested interest in vegetarian/omnivore battles, soy business practices, or anything else that remotely relates to my story, except as it may or may not affect the thyroid.

It has been a well-documented fact for decades that soy foods lower thyroid hormone (Drs Doerge and Chang, FDA, Division of Biochemical Toxicology, for starters, and more from 50 years of diverse sources). But the Soyfoods Association of North America is not very concerned about my health. They cheerfully tell me, "Like other plant foods that contain goitrogens, soy can be part of a healthy diet." (Cooking broccoli or peanuts destroys their lower levels of goitrogens, but cooking soy does little to remove them.) They tell me that soy does not cause thyroid problems in healthy people (though even small amounts of the food in a daily diet have been shown to slow a normal thyroid.) They tell me to get enough iodine, which is fair enough, and to take my medicine in between meals so that the soy won't affect the absorption.

Shomon says, "I think that you need to consider the messenger. The soy industry has a vested interest in promoting soy, and downplaying any potential negatives. Again, some soy can have a place in a healthy diet, but stick with the fermented forms you find in Asian foods, like tempeh, tofu, miso, and use it, like the Asians do, more as a condiment." She says, " if over-consumed, especially in its processed, isoflavone-heavy forms, it can have detrimental effects on thyroid health. Soy is a goitrogen, a food that has the ability to slow down the thyroid gland. In some people, over-consumption of soy can trigger a thyroid condition -- or aggravate an existing one."

For the record, I contacted the Soyfoods Association of North America by telephone and email to ask about these claims and to ensure fair storytelling as a journalist whose only vested interest is the truth, not profit or ideology. No representative from any of the soy boards returned my contact.

By far one of the most thorough, informative and wide-ranging info portals on soy danger is Soy Online Services, in New Zealand. Associated with Dick and Valerie James, the content-heavy site shows no agenda but to help people dismantle the confusing array of information. No membership, no fees, no hidden agenda- just the facts, ma'am. Dick James has been correcting misinformation for years, writing letters to governments and health providers on his own time and own dime. His formidable efforts to spread his truth are honourable- Dick has never taken a dime for this time, or for Soy Online Services.

For the Jameses, it all began when his prized parrots began getting sick and dying after switching to miracle-soy-based-bird-food, he decided to get to the bottom of the issue and found astounding horrors surrounding soy foods. A dear young friend also died somewhat mysteriously, and that's how they started researching soy. They launched a legal investigation to get to the bottom of the bird-food issue, as well as the human health implications, and so began Soy Online Services.

Dick James is a man who has generously given his time and energy to educating people about their health. He says it's a "fallacy is to think that vegetarianism equates to soy consumption. It does not." Vegetarians used to eat a wider spectrum of food. Because of marketing and industrial politics, soy is everywhere, even in bird food.

The internet is abuzz with theories hoping to defame the cozy circle of soy opponents, many whom, like the James', are affiliated with the Weston Price Foundation (www.westonaprice.org.) Dr. Kaayla Daniel serves on the board of directors. The foundation follows the nutrition research of Dr. Weston Price, a dentist who wandered the globe studying the diets of diverse people. The foundation heavily encourages traditional diets based on animal foods and vegetables. Their agenda doesn't scare me away: I have a deep respect for the Weston Price research, and these people work hard to advocate safe, humane farming practices, chemical-free food, and old fashioned methods of fermentation and soaking. The diet may sound funny to those used to boxes and cans, but any student of world cuisine or of history and anthropology can tell these are hardly off the wall. Dr. Daniel says, "The Weston Price Foundation is supported by membership dues and private donations and receives no funding from the beef or dairy industries. We recommend an omnivorous diet that includes free-range eggs, grass-fed meat and raw dairy products from happy, pastured cows, but such products do not come from factory farming operations or corporate agribusiness. We support small farmers, humane treatment of animals, sustainable and organic agriculture and the consumer's right to obtain fresh healthy foods directly from local farmers."

The good sense of sustainable and humane farming and traditional food preparation get lost in the extravagant propaganda. "It's all about money. Soybeans were first heavily grown here for the soy oil? the one used most often in margarines and shortenings. But once processors took the oil out of the soybean, they had a lot of soy protein left over. The question was whether they should take it to the landfill and pay to dump it or turn it into another profit centre. Soy protein would make an excellent fertilizer, but unfortunately the chemical fertilizer companies had that market cornered. It is used as a primary ingredient in animal foods, but there are limits on how much they can safely feed to animals... It was initially hard to sell people on the idea of eating soy because it was perceived as either a poverty food or a hippie food. Then marketing experts changed the image of soy to an upscale 'health food.'

And that dear readers, is why all of us think this toxic waste, not healthy enough for animal feed, is a wonder food.

Not everyone is as concerned about phytic acid or lectins as Daniel, James, Gregg and myself. Dino Sarma is a passionate vegan chef with a degree in biology. Though vegetarianism was not historically synonymous with soy-eating, it is now, and Sarma's cookbook, The Alternative Vegan, was the only one I could source that was vegetarian and soy-free.

"Most vegans in the USA and Europe don't really bother with actual vegetables," Sarma laments. "Alternative Vegan is so named because it provides an alternative to your typical vegan cookbook, where it seems like soy and other meat/dairy analogues are so pervasive that non-vegans often feel that you can't eat a vegan diet without them."

Sarma's lively cookbook is teeming with inspiration from India- stuff he learned from mom. He has a flair for international cuisine, and likes to be able to recognize how his food started out. He recalls fondly the markets in Chennai, where people, vegetarian or not, ate a variety of produce. "I can remember the boisterous shouting of the vendors?the sheer amount of colours and smells that surrounded me. I also remember the stunning variety. Spinach did not mean a selection of one or two types of leaves?more like ten or fifteen, each season. ..Squashes and gourds abounded. Jackfruit, lychee, mango, papaya, guava, grapes?the long bananas, the short skinny ones?." Sounds like paradise to me, too.

Most of his recipes are meals simply put together from the produce aisle. He likes to keep things cheap, and he likes to avoid weird ingredients you can't pronounce. There were already more than enough soy cookbooks flooding the market. And while Sarma is not impressed by pricey, flavourless soy 'meats,' he didn't avoid soy because he finds it unhealthy. "Most of my readers aren't really all that concerned about soy, and just like simple, tasty, healthy food," he says. He doesn't worry about getting enough soy for protein. "All food contains proteins in varying amounts," he says. "Get enough calories, and your protein will take care of itself? Eat a varied diet, including lots of whole grains (brown rice, whole wheat berries, millet, quinoa, amaranth,) dark green leafy vegetables (mustard greens, kale, collard greens, radish greens, wild spinach), fresh vegetables, fresh fruit, and some beans, nuts, and legumes to round out your meals." I highly recommend Sarma's book to anybody: vegetables are not just for vegetarians!

As a science major, he's heard the words phytates and saponins before. "If I were to get scared of everything with saponins, I'd also be avoiding yucca, tomato, grapes," he says. Phytates, lectins, these are "commonly found in animal feeds." As for saponins: "Again, the high levels of saponins is found in the feed for dogs, but hasn't been really linked to human food."

Sarma believes in living compassionately and says going vegan is one of the best things he ever did for himself and the world, but that he doesn't ever see a reason "to be a jerk about it." He likes to educate people through colourful produce and joyful eating. And while he does not cook with soy in The Alternative Vegan, he says he has yet to see study against soy that convinces him. When I ask him what he believes, he says, "I don't like to use the word 'believe' when it comes to scientific data. Upon examination of the sources of the soy scare, I sincerely question the motives, the research methods, the data collection methods, the statistical analyses?and the funding organizations."

Amen. Exactly. And after I did, you can be sure I will enjoy wonderful vegetables of every kind, but I will never touch anything- not chocolate, not tuna fish, not salad dressing- that contains unfermented soy, ever again- and as for fermented, I love my tamari on sushi, but that's about all I'll risk.

After the margarine debacle, soygriculture just got lucky. Other food issues like mercury in fish or pesticide-riddled oranges were their own issues, not a spiritual war between two opposing camps. Soy just happened to be there, pumping its health-makeover propaganda just as the vegetarian-meat debate revved up. That debate won't ever be resolved, because people all over the world eat all kinds of different weird things, from insects to blubber to nothing but olives. The vegan versus omnivore question has nothing to do with soy, which is bad for both groups.

But the soy market saw a perfect opportunity to pit big business against two groups that consisted of citizens with a similar concern- what to safely put in our mouths. Soy conveniently became an emotional, spiritual issue: saying soy is bad is the same as saying 'you shouldn't be a vegetarian.' But it isn't. It's just saying soy is bad for you, same as soda or sugar are bad for you. Except that soy might be worse!

If you only read one thing on the topic, make sure it's Dr. Kaayla Daniel's expose. "It's sad that so many people feel that all information must be financially motivated. The truth is that neither I nor New Trends Publishing has ever accepted any funds from the beef or dairy industries or from any government agency."

Meanwhile, Big Soy is happily pocketing everyone's money while they defend one of the most deceptive businesses of all time. Dr. Daniel says many- meat eaters and vegans- have read her work. " I think they owe it to themselves and certainly to their children to educate themselves. Many who have taken that step have come back to me with thanks."
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Timeline Bleedthroughs and Guide Changes

From the Journals of DL Zeta

On Sunday, January 26, we had a solar eclipse in Aquarius. In the
weeks prior to the eclipse, the event kept filtering into my
consciousness. I knew my intuition was trying to flag my attention,
but I couldn't devote much mind space to it due to the increasing buzz
about an impending ice storm. My time was consumed with buying
supplies, doing laundry and preparing for a possible power outage. In
the chaos of preparing for the impending storm, I overlooked the fact
that we'd had an eclipse in Aquarius just before Hurricane Ike swept
through here in September.

But I'm getting ahead of myself. First I want to talk about the ice

The Ghost of Ice Storms Past

The night before the ice storm began, I revisited my memories of the
last major ice storm we had here on December 25, 2000. That storm
began early Christmas morning. Iced in alone and without electricity
throughout the holiday and for the next few days, I began to
experience a "timeline bleedthrough" in which I received the vision
for a new way of being that included possibilities beyond anything I
had imagined. To make this shift, I needed to clear out emotional
"static" -- old fears and programming from the past.
Synchronistically, that ice storm provided me with the opportunity to
confront emotional trepidation around holidays and severe weather -
particularly icy weather. It allowed me to face fears of isolation,
particularly in a desolate environment, and ultimately, physical
death. These were all deep, primal fears dredged up from the
suffering well of collective consciousness.

What happened that icy December in 2000 amounted to a dark night of
the soul that allowed me to "rebirth" my consciousness and awaken to
the wealth of assistance available in the realm of the "unseen" -- the
realm of spirit.

Nine years later, my memories of that time are cast in a glow of
appreciation and gratitude for the life-changing rite of passage the
storm afforded me. I'm grateful and blessed each day by the emotional
freedom, inner strength and spiritual connection I've begun allowing
into my life in the years since that time of ice.

As the ice storm of January 2009 bore down, I doubted it would have
anything approaching the impact of that storm in 2000. I was pretty
certain the same circumstance wouldn't wield the same power.

One thing I haven't mentioned is that there was an eclipse the day of
the December 2000 ice storm. I didn't know it in 2000. In fact, it's
something I found out nine years after the fact. We'll come back to
that in Part 3.

The Ice Storm of 2009

The morning of January 28, I woke to the sound of ice on the roof. A
light rain the night before had turned to sleet and freezing rain. I
woke the moment the electric grid went down. At first, I experienced
an inevitable resistance, impatience and bristling against the
inconvenience. But this all quickly turned to awe and dread of the
powerful forces of nature. For the second time in just over four
months, I felt myself in the sharp teeth of clashing energies.

In the Wake of Hurricane Ike

It in the four months since Hurricane Ike swept through on September
13, leaving a trail devastation in its path, I have found blessings
and healing.

I know everything that's happened has been in accordance with divine
perfection. In the months before the storm, I began receiving visions
of a new living space that would allow us to grow and expand in ways
that are aligned with our spiritual purpose. Inside the space there
would be a greenhouse where Peter could grow vegetables and herbs year
round. There would be a sound-proof audiovisual room where we could
create CDs and DVDs for the ever-growing number of people we work
with. There would be an exercise room where we could focus on
fitness, even in the coldest part of winter. There would be an area
for a hot tub and massage table for relaxation and renewal, a garage
to house our cars, and a writer's loft, a space for inner listening
and writing. By July of last year, I was making drawings and mapping
out the design of the building, not knowing how and when this building
would come to be.

The morning after Hurricane Ike brought the two largest trees on our
property down onto our carport and shed, I stood in the carnage
feeling the weight of the loss. Amid it all, a strong, clear voice
said "Now we build." Three days after the hurricane, we bought a
steel building online and began the cleanup and foundation work to
bring the vision of our building into being. Every step we took -
from dirt work to foundation to erecting the building and putting up
interior walls - brought a healing and renewal. As the New Year
began, I found myself in a place of peace and gratitude.

Even as the dust settled in the wake of Hurricane Ike, a new event was
brewing on the horizon. There is no doubt we are entering new and more
intense weather patterns. Some attribute it to shifting energies
preparing the way for 2012. Some say it is global warming. One thing
I'm certain of. Each experience we undergo contains a message. To
receive the message, we must embrace the experience, open to its
message and receive it with an open heart and mind. I call this
process "surrendering to the storm."

Next: Messages of the Ice, Part 2: Surrendering to the Storm

To view photos of the 2009 ice storm, visit the photo page at our
website, http://www.celestialvision.org
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Hello Friends, It is the time of the year where we yearn for the
warmth of the sun as the bear, feeling the depletion of body fat knows
it must soon search for food. Yet knowing that it's life is in
jeopardy if it leaves the den, the dreams go on. This is the
crossroads of consciousness and the time to determine what our goals
are in this year. Prior to the spring equinox we have to decide what
our movements are placed in ideology. What I use is both media
statements, channeled information, and staying in the moment as much
as I can. This circle allows me to understand all of my emotions and
to be honest I am looking for an intellectual debate. I am bored, as I
post many things and rarely have any responses. I am bored because so
many souls are in a given box although many have the lid open. I
listened to Bill Maher and this morning Alexandra Pelosi. Rarely do we
have a democratic leader in Congress and a daughter who sobbed when
McClain lost. The true intellectual debates are very subliminal in the
crossroads but these two truly represent a great part of our country's
mind and it's worth reviewing the highlights. The bear's mind is
seeking expansion which is where we should be. However given the
economic environment the country is entering a 'Protectionist
Government'. Buy America, the stimulus package addresses the wounded
and bleeding. Bill Maher spoke on many subjects including the Michael
Phelps bong incident and shopping in a grocery store. But he advanced
those ethics by saying how the Republicans, who spent like crazy over
the last eight years have the gall to oppose the spending ethic of the
new democratic domination in Congress. Alexandra Pelosi then came to
the stage and in a pure feminist style represented the conservative
needs of this country. It's all about pace you see, which is why I
play golf. The better the pace of my swing the better the shot
becomes. The better pace of my mind, the better results of what I
determine. Daytime TV had a breakthrough and published a gay wedding
between two women. If you really are looking for realized
consciousness, this makes no difference, Michael Phelps bong hit
makes no difference, because the bear knows it all a dream. I know it
feels real, but the reality of our excursion through this experiment
is the the dream world is real, the waking world is the illusion. The
bear teaches us that though we crave the stimulation of the material
world, it is only temporary, like a drug and has little lasting effect
on our soul unless we know what to chose as a truth. The maze of
truths are many, the ones we choose have to be carefully considered.
We have to sort out the impressions of ideas that come to us and the
ones that affect our attitudes and opinions. One is a passive
response that provokes intuitive thought, the other is plaintive
thinking where one represents it's opinions of like and replies. The
position of the bear at this point in the circle is no rebuttal. Just
passively collect ideas and give yourself time to formulate a new
consciousness. Then the ideology of the media graciously falls apart
and you have a spiritual nature the continually migrates and places
new truths about it like a wreath of a new awareness. Namaste Peter


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and, this is something, i do NOT like to post

but, this is a reality,
whilst many of us, live like roses

there are some,
who as a result, of who we elect,
live like thorns

soon, i hope, we all choose to be a piece of peace

here goes:

In the rubble of Jabal al Rayas
Gaza families struggling to survive in homemade shelters


and, you know,
the worst part, is, that we, the people,
do NOT want this,
and, yet, those who we elected to speak for us,
are, NOT doing that eloquently

it makes my heart, very sad

and, the worst part, the choices of a few,
are, NOT the choices of a many,
and, all of us, are in this together

What can we do, to be,

a piece of peace....

whatever, it is,
that, you believe, that you know, that you can do,
it is a time, for action, massive action
it is needed, in this The Pivot of the NOW

In the rubble of Jabal al Rayas
Gaza families struggling to survive in homemade shelters


if you can watch this,
without crying,
if you can believe this,
could NOT happen to you,
and, your town - it truly is time,
to give ourselves, a good shake,
to live, in a word, such as this,
is an honour, and, a privledge,
Gaia, the most beautiful world of all

and, yet, these horrific acts,
are done by spineless, and, weak people,
who know NOT, what it means,
to have a heart !!!

These are people, just like, you and, i are people

This war, and, all wars, on this earth,
must come to their end !!!

This is NOT what any type of Creator,
or GOOD GOD, ever intended...

ghandi was a wise one,
it is time, ""to be the changes, we all wish to see in this world"

and, do it NOW
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- The Red Haired Race and the Stone People

Mary Sutherland @ Copyright 2009

Part One:

The early gods had their own monarchy, with laws of succession similar to our own and had built a global empire upon the Earth, with great cities, temples and monuments and mighty nations established on several continents. The period of their global rule was the “Golden Age”, the period the Egyptians called “The Zep Tepi” (The First Time), a time when the gods watched over man directly, like a shepherd over his flock. The symbol of this world monarchy was depicted as an eye hovering over a throne. This same eye can be found adorning the United States dollar bill, presented as the missing capstone of the Great Pyramid, underneath which are written the words "New World Order." There is no doubt, this "New World Order" is the global monarchy that our Founding Fathers intended for this nation to participate in all along…symbolized by a pyramid as a representation of an ideal and perfectly ordered authoritarian empire.

The ancient stories tell us that the early gods created a slave race of man. According to the Sumerian legends, the gods created mankind to "bear the yoke of the gods." Seeing man as nothing more than domesticated animals, they furthered their breeding program by creating a hybrid race of “Shepherd Kings” to watch over their flock. This was accomplished through the fusion of the genes of selected humans with those of the "gods".

The quasi-human offspring of the gods were attributed with remarkable traits. They lived for thousands of years and were capable of levitation, dimension-hopping, clairvoyance and other magical powers…all a product of applied eugenics. “Selective unions gave the race the opportunity to breed outstanding magicians whose gift of natural perception and understanding and whose ability to access the “Otherworld” helped to produce and guide brilliant kings.

The Merovingian monarchs, also known as the Grecian Annodoti, the Sumerian Annunaki or the Celtic Tuatha de Danaan, were called the long haired sorcerer Kings and were said to have been able to heal by the laying on of hands, communicate clairvoyantly and telepathically with animals. It is rumored that they each carried a distinctive birthmark in the form of a red cross either over the heart, or between the shoulder blades. Their powers were said to emanate from their long hair and extended to everything they possessed, even down to the tassels on their robes. Many times they are found symbolically depicted with wings, horns and fish scales, which is indicative of power and royal blood.

Many of of these hybrids were described as taking the form of giants, dragons, and sea monsters, while others were said to have been born with a fairly normal human countenance, of which runs the Holy Grail Bloodline.

The first of the kingship line was King Nimrod who ruled with his wife Semiramis, The woman upon whom all goddesses were based. Although Nimrod’s empire spanned the globe he was most known for his building of Babylon and the “Tower of Babel”. Nimrod was the biblical Cain and a Merovingian “Quinotaur”, the mythical ancestor of the Merovingian kings.

The Merovingian bloodline originated during the time of Atlantis, through their founder, King Merovee, who is said to have been the spawn of a "Quinotaur," a giant fish or a sea monster, who raped his mother when she went out to swim in the ocean. Here it becomes clear why he was given the name "Merovee," being that “mer” in French means “sea” and in some traditions, Atlantis was known by the name “Meru” or “Maru”.

North America can be connected to Atlantis and the race of Atlanteans can be connected through the Sumerian titles of "Khat," "Kad," and “Gad”, denoting god/kings. The word "Khatti" is associated with their race and the region that was their capitol was known as "Amarru," which means "The Land to the West". Atlantis became an alternate term for “Amarru” or “Meru”. The land of the gods was symbolized by a “Lion” which represented royalty. America (A-MERU-ka) could thus mean “homeland of the royal god/kings of Atlantis”.

Semiramis, like Venus, was a love goddess, nicknamed the “Mother of Harlots”. She acted as the headmistress of the temple prostitutes, who performed sacred sexual magic in the tower, which was built to represent the sacred world mountain. This sex rite, still practiced by secret societies and occultists today, was known as “pyr”, meaning “magic fire”, and was employed as a symbolic union of the elements of fire and water- male and female energies. This rite of sexual alchemy, which was also ceremonially performed by Semiramis and Nimrod, is secretly referred to by occultists with the Latin phrase: “Rex igne redit et coningo gaudet occulto” meaning “The king returns with fire and rejoices in his hidden bride.”

Replicas of the sacred or world mountain, of which the Tower of Babel was one, can be found all over the world, in the pyramids and stepped ziggurats of the ancient world - from China to Cambodia, from Egypt to North America. All were built to embody the union of the male and female energies of fire and water. They were either built on an island, or surrounded by a moat, or connected to an elaborate system of fountains and they usually contained a sacred fire which burned perpetually at the temple’s peak. In fact, the word “pyra-mid” itself means “fire in the middle.” Often they would have a secret system of tunnels built underneath them, like under the Giza pyramids, or under the temple of Maccu Pichu, to represent the infernal caverns of the world mountain. Like the Tower of Babel, they often consisted of seven steps - seven being the number of godly perfection - and sometimes each step was painted with one of the seven colors of the rainbow, forming a “rainbow bridge” to Heaven - which was indeed the main function of the temple. In fact, the Sumerian word for ziggurat is “duranki”, which means “the binding of Heaven and Earth”, and the word “Babylon” means “gateway of the gods.” Furthermore, in the “pyr ritual” which was performed in a temple’s inner sanctum, the priestess was referred to, in Latin, as “Ianua Coeli”, meaning “Gateway to Heaven” indicating that the ritual (spiritual) mirrored the pyramid or temple (physical).

Every culture has a myth about the sacred world mountain, such as Mount Meru in the East, or Mount Olympus in the west, where the peaks (often twin peaks – 11) reach to the heavens. It is symbolically placed in the “center of the Earth”, the world axis, marker of the celestial pole about which the world turns. It is also Paradise, where the gods live in immortality. And they live not just on the mountain, but in its caverns, which are said to reach down into the very depths of Hell. According to the stories, the mountain is often volcanic and is usually surrounded by a body of water, sometimes with four sacred rivers issuing from its peak. This makes the whole scene a perfect union of the four elements: water (the sea and rivers), fire (the volcanic material within), earth (the mountain itself), and air (the lofty summit of the peak, reaching into the heavens). This mountain is universally remembered as having been a refuge for both gods and men during the Deluge, which is another myth common to all cultures. According to some versions, the mountain was so high that the floodwaters could not submerge it and those who occupied it (the gods) remained safe. In other versions, such as the Judeo-Christian, it is this mountain that was the first dry land Noah, the pilot of the ark and hero of the Flood story, rested upon. In mythology, the Ark is most often occupied by a divine couple, such as Isis and Osiris. In the Greek myth these two were called Deucalion and Pyrrha.

Pyrrha’s name is related to the root word for fire, “pyr.” In fact, both Deucalion and Pyrra are directly related to Prometheus, who first brought fire to Earth. Pyrrha is said to have been named so because of her “fire-red” hair. Deucalion foresaw the Flood and built an ark, which eventually washed up on the peak of Mount Parnassus, the highest peak in the world, and the only bit of land not covered by water. When the waters subsided, they repopulated the planet by magically creating people out of stones, which were cryptically referred to as “the bones of our mother”, i.e. Mother Earth. This race of men was called “the Stone People”, who had exceptional talents, strong physical constitutions and were credited for rebuilding civilization up from the mud and slush of the Deluge

The North American Oneida Indians call themselves ‘the Onyota’a”ka, which means ‘the Stone People’. To this day, each Oneida village gathers at a large rock they call the “sacred tree” to conduct their ceremonial activities. Hiawatha's Belt" was composed of five figures. In the center was the sacred tree, which looks very much like a “pyr-amid”

The symbolism of the belt represents the five original tribes.
From left to right they represent the:

Seneca, the keepers of the Western Door;
Cayuga, the "people of the marsh (reeds)" and "keepers of the Great Pipe”, made from the sacred red stone, which symbolizes “The Old Red Land”;
Onondaga, who were the "name bearers" who kept the wampum belt that contained the history of the Iroquois;
Oneida, the "stone people" symbolized by the Great Tree; and lastly the Mohawk, the "keepers of the eastern door".

The obscured past and folklore of North America is littered with myths of an ancient white race that inhabited the lands prior to the Native American Indians. The “Book of Mormon” describes them as race of Nephite. This could all be easily dismissed as fantasy and far-fetched myth if not for one major obstacle.......the evidence! The American mid-west is covered with pyramids, ceremonial mounds monoliths, and massive land sculptures representing sacred animals and symbols. As modern science and anthropology try to attribute these structures to the American Indians and their ancestors, it is the American Indians themselves that bluntly state..."those structures were here when we arrived"

To Be Continued…. (in part 2)

Reader Response to Part One of “The Red Haired Race and the Stone People”

For those that missed Part One Please Contact me and I will re-send

Reader: Frederic Anderson (One Feather)

So, you’re saying that because of “white superiority” the great constructions of the Maya, Toltec, Aztec, Inca, Hopi, Anasazi and Hopewell cultures had to be created by whites, not American Indians? As an enrolled member of the Potawatomi Nation who has spent a number of years collecting the legends and spiritual ritual of the People, I find it somewhat bizarre that you’re unable to give credit to the indigenous peoples of the Americas. My grandfather was the first member of my family to move away from our reservation but he instilled within me a deep respect and admiration for the First Nation and their unique culture. Perhaps you should spend some time at Cahokia where the very essence of the People can be absorbed and intuitively realized… you might be surprised at what you discover there.

Or even in the woods and meadows of S E Wisconsin and N E Illinois...


To express ‘superiority over any race’ is not my intent. This article is merely an attempt to shed light on the true history of North America and its entire people. The history of North America was created from fallacy, leaving its people with no roots to grow from and blind to the greatest cover up in the history of mankind. The Native American Indian is but one fraction of the all that became victim to an ‘elitist’ society whose intent was –and is – to keep mankind in servitude to them and the gods they follow. Continuing with this article, I will share with you and others information that I have compiled on the history of the Stone People, Mound builders , Native American Indian and how government changed history to fit the political agendas of those days.

Ekwabet(Watching Over) Potawatomi

(On the forced relocation of the original inhabitants of the Fox River Valley

by the White Man in the 1830s)

“Listen, for I speak but once ….”

As I gaze across the waters of the shimmering Fox River, I see the

smoke of thousands of teepees where I once saw only gentle prairies

and lush forests abundant with game.

Many moons ago, my people were among the first voices

to be heard in this land. We came to live in peace with nature.

We hunted and fished. We married, bore children, and died at our appointed time.

The bones of my people mingle here with the earth. We loved this valley.

It was with great sadness that we had to leave our home. We were few

and the settlers were many. The spirits of my ancestors have never left

this great valley, and occasionally you may glimpse our shadows or

feel our presence as we tread silently along the shores of our beloved Fox River.

Our final prayer as we left our land was that you would love this

valley as much as we loved it. We were one with the earth, sky, and water.

We are the Neshnabek, the “People” of the Valley.

Mary Sutherland
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Mary Sutherland Copyright 2009

“There were approximately twenty five million inhabitants in America when Columbus ‘discovered’ it;

They were living in societies which in limited respects were ahead of Spain.”

(The God-Kings and the Titans, James Bailey)

The biblical Enoch was known to be the ‘Establisher of Adam’ and Adam is the divine universal manifestation of God, setting up the Adamic cycle of six thousand years, beginning with himself and Enoch, ending with the ‘return of Jesus Christ’. Enoch received and established the wisdom of Adam who lived 930 years and survived the completion of the Pyramid by almost 400 years. (Joshua, in turn, became the establisher for Moses and Paul became the establisher for Jesus.)

Enoch was a Master Builder, the architect for the Great Pyramid in Egypt as well as the pyramids built in Central, South America and Mexico, where he was known as Quetzacoatl, Kulkulcan, and Itzamna. The Southwestern Hopi of North America knew him as the ‘Giver of the Great Fire Clan Tablet’. Enoch told them that when their great white brother, ‘Bahana’, returned they were to seek him out in the land called ‘Masauwa’. (Masauwa is the phonetic spelling of Missoula).

The ‘Book of the Hopi’, prophases that after the Fire Clan migrated to their permanent home, a time would come when they would be overcome by a strange white people. These people would force the Fire Clan (Hopi) to develop their land and lives according to the dictates of a new ruler or they would be treated as criminals and punished accordingly. Enoch told them not to resist but wait for their lost white brother to return. He would be called Pahana (Bahana) and would return to them the missing corner piece of the tablet, deliver them from their persecutors and bring in a new and universal brotherhood of man.

Enoch traveled up the Mississippi River crossed over the Wisconsin River and went into the state of Wisconsin. Here was where the chocolate-colored granite was being mined to make such holy relics as was used for the Ark of the Covenant, in the Holy of Holies and the Capstone of the Great Pyramid. From Wisconsin, he journeyed south, teaching the people the religion of the ‘One True Invisible God – the Wakan-Tanca’.

When Mormon founder Joseph Smith was 14 years old, he claimed to have had a vision of the two Christs. He saw the Father and the Son as two separate people and called them ‘Baha'u'llah’ and ‘Jesus’. In another vision, Smith saw Christ returning to a Temple located in the Rocky Mountains of North America. Up until the time of his death, Smith directed his people to go to the Rocky Mountains "to prepare the way" for the return of Christ.

The Mormons (Latter Day Saints) believe that the resurrected Jesus ministered to the giant Nephites in America. Christ appeared in the temple and allowed their congregation to see and feel his wounds on his hands and feet. According to tradition, the messiah stayed with them for several days, teaching, healing and giving them the commandments.

The Hopi Indians refer to the Round Towers (Watchtowers) as the ‘Snake Houses’. In a narrative describing the origin of the Snake Clan, the wife of the culture hero ‘Tiyo’gives birth to a brood of serpents. The Hopi version describing the serpent being ousted out of the Garden of Eden can be found in the story of Masau’u (Hopi god of death, the earth, and the Underworld-- also spelled Masau or Masaw) and the ‘Snake Mother’. Masau tells ‘Snake Mother’ that her children can no longer live in their homes because they have bitten and killed the Hopi. For their punishment, they will now live under rocks and holes in the ground. The Snake Houses, which were built for them, should never be destroyed and the coming generations should know of the snake’s doom and the loss of their home. However, the reverence the Hopi still give the Serpent people can be found in the following:

“When the snakes were all collected and they were gathered together at night, they took the first snake they had found and washed its head and gave it the name Chüa (he of the earth) and decorated it with beads and earrings. Then the Youth [Tiyo] opened a bag and gave the people cotton and beads and said as the snakes had brought rain the people should now be happy and content, and on every celebration of the Snake Festival good things would be given to them.”

“Chüa” is the Hopi name for the worshipped serpent that initiated their biennial rain ceremony, still performed in Arizona’s high deserts. This name is similar to “Chna,” an English transliteration of the Greek word referring to the Phoenician ‘Land of Canaan’. The biblical ‘Anakim’ were giants, known to have come from Southern Canaan and the ‘giant’ Nephilim were called the ‘Sons of the Anakim’. The Anakim were known to have long necks, adorned with necklaces. The Hopi offerings of earrings and necklaces are particularly significant because the Hopi term ‘naaqa’ means ‘turquoise necklace’ or ‘ear pendant’. Their word ‘Anaaq’ means ‘ouch’, an interjection used to express the pain caused from the ‘bite of the serpent’.

The Hopi and Pueblo cultures of the Rio Grande are descended from the Anasazi. Early American travelers in the Southwest were astounded to find ruined cities and vast cliff dwellings dotting the desert landscape. After examining the ruins, it seemed that the people who had once lived there had simply walked away, vanishing without a trace. The ruins were found littered with beautifully painted pottery, grinding stones, baskets, sandals hanging on pegs, and granaries full of corn. The Navajo Indians reference them as ancient enemies and avoid the ruins, believing them to be inhabited by chindi, a western version of the djinn.

The Anasazi were--so the findings suggested--peaceful farmers, and they attained astonishing results in engineering, architecture, and art. The center of this cultural flowering, from the tenth century to the twelfth, seems to have been Chaco Canyon, New Mexico. Chaco is marked by immense stone structures, some up to four stories high, called Great Houses. The largest, Pueblo Bonito contains some six hundred and fifty rooms and its construction required more than thirty thousand tons of shaped sandstone blocks. The Chaco Anasazi also built hundreds of miles of roads that stretched out from Chaco Canyon across the landscape in arrow-straight lines. They erected shrines, solar and astronomical observatories, irrigation systems, and a network of signaling stations. They constructed more than a hundred Great Houses outside Chaco Canyon, spreading them over fifty thousand square miles of the Four Comers region of the Southwest.

Many of these outlying Great Houses seem to have been connected to Chaco by the radiating pattern of roads. Archeologists today call this cultural explosion "the Chaco phenomenon." But the phenomenon ended abruptly around 1150 A.D., when a vast collapse apparently occurred, and Chaco, along with some of the outlying sites, was abandoned.

It would seem that the North American Indian ‘Snake Houses’, Babylonian WatchTowers, Irish and Scottish Round Towers have a common link to a Serpent Race - The ‘Knights of the Round Temple’.

Burrows Cave, located in Illinois, is another living testament to the ancient people. The Cave was found while Russell Burrows was walking along a path and literally stumbled onto the opening. As he fell, he dislodged a massive stone that, if it had not jammed, would have flipped over and deposited him into a stone chamber that was 12 feet deep. (The stone had then been designed to turn over and seal the intruder permanently into the chamber!)

The cave was a mausoleum or ancient library filled with skeletons and grave furniture, weapons and urns. Carvings were found, depicting the Egyptian dog or jackal headed god, “Anubis". One of the images depicted a "dog " deity in priestly regalia, wearing a bishop-styled hat decorated with a solar emblem. The deity has been identified as the god "So-Bek-Ra", who is so pictured on a temple by the Nile. The figure stands, as the lone representative of an ancient priesthood, against an advancing enemy army. Also found were many carved heads, mostly warrior profiles, wearing Greek, Roman and Egyptian headgear. There are even images of an ancient race wearing feathers and facial designs, some showing clear Meso-American style headdress. Amongst them are ancient mystical and sacred designs, as well as maps, pictures of ships and non-indigenous animals. Astonishingly, one of the carvings portrays the god “Pan”, holding his pipes and consorting with a nymph. Another stone (as well as an ancient metal coin) excavated from the cave depicts the image of an elephant underlined with Hebrew characters.

Archeologists have collected evidence of an elaborate and uniform Earth/Sun religion, associated with the building of flat top temple mounds. These pyramid-like mounds, which carried a permanent fire at the top, contained a variety of art, impressed on copper and stone, depicting animal-headed deities, crosses, swastikas, and people in ceremonial dress performing rituals.

A stone in a dry creek bed in New Mexico, discovered by early settlers in the region, is one of the most amazing archaeological discoveries in the Western Hemisphere. The Ten Commandments, written in ancient Hebrew script, is engraved on its flank! In ‘The Origins and Empire of Ancient Israel’, author-historian Steven M. Collins points out that the “Las Lunas Stone” inscription was written in the same style as the Hebrew inscriptions on the Moabite stone, dated to about 1,000 B.C.

Ancient tablets were found bearing old Hebrew inscriptions, with a man deplited on the front of the tablets holding what resembles the Ten Commandments. These tablets were unearthed in 1860 from an earthen mound in Ohio.

Literally hundreds of inscribed Phoenician, Celtic and Basque stone grave markers have been found in Susquehanna Valley of Pennsylvania, dated to 800-600 B.C., over 2,000 years before Columbus!

An Ogham inscription (the language of the sea people) was found near the Texas Rio Grande River, giving record that the Egyptian-Libyans under the rule of king, Shishonq, had visited North America. The inscription translates as ““A crew of Shishonq the king took shelter in this place of concealment.” The Holy Bible names this king as “Shishak” (Shishonq), describing him as a king of Egypt who invaded the Kingdom of Judah during the time of Rehoboam, son of Solomon, after the kingdom of Israel separated from allegiance to the throne of David. He was a mighty king and plundered the Temple and riches of the kingdom of Judah (see I Kings 14:25-26).

More evidence of early Hebrew-Phoenician presence in North America is found at Mystery Hill, named for the ‘mystery’ over the origin of a large temple observatory site of about twenty acres discovered by early colonial settlers near North Salem, New Hampshire. It included shrines with dedications to the god Baal, a Phoenician-Canaanite deity condemned by the God of Israel. Radiocarbon dating of the site shows that it was inhabited as far back as the second millennium and earlier.

It seems clear that Iberian and Punic speakers were living in Iowa in the 9th century B.C. based off evidence found in 1877 near Davenport, Iowa. Found in an earthen mound was an ancient stele containing a combination of inscriptions of three languages Iberian-Punic [related to Phoenician/Hebrew], Egyptian, and ancient Libyan. During the time of King Solomon of Israel, the leading world alliance of the time was a triple alliance consisting of Israel-Phoenicia, Egypt, and Libya! “The date is unlikely to be earlier than about 800 B.C., for we do not know of Iberian or Libyan inscriptions earlier than this date. (Barry Fell, America B.C) The Iowa stele indicates that the “triple alliance” begun in the days of Solomon, between Israel, Phoenicia, and Egypt/Libya, continued on into the 800s B.C. It probably lasted until Israel was carried away into captivity in 721 B.C. by the growing Assyrian empire. The Bible states plainly that the northern kingdom of Israel, ruled by Ahab, was still “in bed” with Phoenicia during his reign, around 850 B.C. Ahab married the daughter of Hiram, king of Tyre, a woman by the name of Jezebel, a priestess of the Baal-Astarte abomination. The Jewish encyclopedia tells us that Ahab was a very powerful king – one of the four greatest kings of all history! According to the Targum Sheni, four kings reigned over the entire world. They were in order: Solomon, Ahab, Nebuchadnezzar, and Cyrus of Persia. The Aggagah declares that Ahab was one of three or four kings who will have no portion in the world to come (Sanhedrin 10.2). Over the gates of Samaria he placed the inscription: “Ahab denies the God of Israel.” Influenced by his wife Jezebel, he became an enthusiastic idolater like none before him. He left no hilltop in Israel without an idol before which he bowed. He substituted the names of idols for the divine Name of God in the Torah. Ahab is said to have ruled over the “whole world” and “his dominion extended over 252 kingdoms”

(Encyclopedia Judaica, “Ahab,” vol.1, p.439) In the 800’s B.C. , Israel was still a very powerful kingdom, and the triple alliance forged by Solomon with Phoenicia and Egypt was still going strong, in the hands of Ahab. An inscription noting this alliance, by being in three languages of the three kingdoms, found in Davenport, Iowa, attests to the fact of this continuing and powerful entente. Ahab was the most powerful monarch in the world during his time and the triple alliance brought Israel great wealth and might.

Writes Steve Collins:

“A date of 800-700 B.C. for this stele confirms that the triple alliance of Israel, Egypt and Phoenicia lasted long after the lifetime of King Solomon. The Bible records that the ten tribes of Israel forsook worshiping the Creator God after Solomon’s death, and adopted the religious customs of Egypt, Tyre and Sidon.
Biblical accounts show that Israel and Phoenicia were still very closely allied during the reign of King Ahab of Israel (circa 850 B.C.), and there is no evidence that their alliance suffered a breach until approximately 721 B.C., when Israel ceased to be a nation in the Mideast. Therefore the Iowa stele showing that these ancient nations were still working together around 800 B.C. in the New World is consistent with biblical accounts”

In addition to these discoveries, another stele exhibiting the ancient Egyptian-Libyan script was discovered on Long Island in New York. Dr. Barry Fell states that it also probably dates to around the ninth century B.C

Another amazing discovery was made in Oklahoma, where a stele was found giving reverence to the gods Baal and Ra. Its inscription is an extract from the “Hymn to the Aton” by Pharaoh Akhenaten.

Although the dating of Akhenaten is purported to be in the 13th century B.C., new Egyptian dynastic dating methods indicate he was much closer to 800 B.C and he is believed to have been “Solomon”. This Oklahoma stele is written in Iberian-Punic, a language descended from Phoenician-Hebrew, and Barry Fell declares that it is “scarcely older than 800 B.C.”

Evidence suggests the North American mound builders placed Temples at locations that formed an interlocking grid matrix, producing geometric patterns in the shape of five pointed stars. Uncovering the mysteries of these mounds and their builders may be the greatest discovery of the millennia. Josiah Priest, 'Antiquities and Discoveries of the West', argued that the mounds were built by the Lost Tribes of Israel, Egyptians, Greeks and others. William Pidgeon's ' “Tradition of De-Coo-Dah “(1858), states that Chief De-Coo-Dah told him of an ancient race of mound building people who were much more numerous than the present Indians.

The Underwater Pyramid and Dog Worship of Aztalan, Wisconsin

An area near Lake Mills, Wisconsin, was one of the bases of operation for the early Tyranenian miners and traders of the Copper mined in Michigan’s Upper Penisula, dating back to approximately 3000 B.C. During that time, the Wisconsin site was known as ‘Tyranena’. From Tyranena, the traders traveled down the Rock River to the Mississippi River and then down to the Gulf of Mexico.

Lake Mills acknowledged Tyranena and its people by setting aside some land for a park, giving it the name Tyranena Park. The Park is located on the north end of Rock Lake. The quiet wooded trails lead you through ancient glacial drumlin kettles and beautiful views of Rock Lake, where a pyramid lies under its waters. From our calculations, mining operations ceased in or around 1200 B.C. with the Tyranenians leaving the area. Before leaving they flooded the site, leaving a lake to protect their secrets and the dead they left behind.

Mining operations began once again in or around 900 A.D. From the Yucatan and surrounding areas, up the Mississippi and into southern Illinois the Mayan miners and astronomer-priests came. They established their point camp in Tyranena, but renamed it Aztalan. A pyramidal city, Cahokia was used as the center for their intercontinental trade. This second operation lasted until around 1300 A.D.

“In Fourteen Hundred and Nine Two,

Columbus sailed the ocean Blue,

To prove that the old maps were true”


Interestingly the third line of this nursery rhyme was conveniently dropped…but as you see this particular line points out that Columbus was ‘not’ the first discover of the Americas - but actually came here using ancient maps made by a race long before his time.

We can now connect the ancient Wisconsinites via their travel, trade and culture to the CANary Islands through the root CAN, a derivative of the word Cain or Canaan.

Many assume that the name Canary (Canari) Islands originated from the discovery of the canaries found populating the island. But, according to the Latin definition of Canari, the word actually means 'DOG', (CANine).

When the early Romans made their first visit to these islands in the Second Century B.C., the natives revered the dog as sacred. Thus, the Romans began calling these natives the ‘Dog People’. The islanders’ worship of the dog mirrors the Egyptian veneration of Anubis, the dog- headed god who led the souls from the material world, through the veil, into the after life. In the Egyptian City of Cynopolis (Dog City), literally tens of thousands of mummified dogs were found buried. Evidence to the veneration of the dog has also been found in Wisconsin, at Aztalan.

To Be Continued (in part 3)



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Peggy comes to Montreal every year for the annual SSF conference. She has a group here and has more classes in the Laurentians for her students after the conference. I went to her 2 day seminar last year. Interesting energy healing technique, and at this point scientifically proven, with a world wide following.
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Mike Heiser, PhD, Biblical Scholar on UFOs' . PART 1: (10:02)


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Bosses of a publishing firm are trying to work out why no one noticed that one of their employees had been sitting dead at his desk for five days before anyone asked if he was feeling okay. George Turklebaum, 51, who had been employed as a proof-reader at a New York firm for 30 years, had a heart attack in the open-plan office he shared with 23 other workers.

He quietly passed away on Monday, but nobody noticed until Saturday morning when an office cleaner asked why he was working during the weekend.

His boss, Elliot Wachiaski said: "George was always the first guy in each morning and the last to leave at night, so no one found it unusual that he was in the same position all that time and didn't say anything. He was always absorbed in his work and kept much to himself."

You may want to give you co-workers a nudge occasionally.

Source: New York Times article

The moral of the story:
Don't work too hard.
Nobody notices anyway.

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i'll be back on the 23rd of Feb/2009

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yup ... kill them, with love -- to us, its what we run on, it is the only thing,
but, to those, who are silly enough to send these energies, its a poison !!!

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Post Comparison- The Forgotten Races of North America and the Earthen Mounds
Manipulation of North American History
The Holy Records of North America

Chapter One of “Revelations – Truths Revealed” by Mary Sutherland

The Holy Records of North America

While effort and time has been spent in far away lands,
tracing time worn trails, breaking through hardened lava of volcanic ruins, sifting through the dust of the Egyptian catacombs
records lie scattered in every state,
legibly written on the surface of the soil,
in the earthen mounds, effigies, ruins and the Herculean embankments of North America.

Many of the ruins of the Old World countries shadow in comparison to North America’s magnificent ‘artificial’ hills and waterways, constructed from the labor of a ‘forgotten’ people.

The historical significance behind the earthen mounds should never be undermined. The earthen mounds were ‘altars of earth’ and were not only recognized, in biblical times, as a holy place but were universally used as an ‘abiding record’. They stand today not only as testament of the antediluvian age of man but to provide us with the first records of man during and after the great cataclysms.

In the days of Adam, sacrifice was offered unto the lord.”
It was then written, “As soon as the waters of the flood receded, Noah built an altar upon which to offer sacrifice unto the Lord.” This being the first work of Noah, in his advent from the Ark, it would date the custom of the construction of altars to ‘antediluvian origin’…a time ‘before’ the flood.

It is biblically recorded that during the migrations of Lot and Abraham - by divine authority - an ‘altar of earth’ was to be built at each place of sojourning and wherever any circumstance of importance occurred.

“An altar of earth shalt thou make unto me; and shall sacrifice thereon thy burnt-offering and thy peace- offering, thy sheep and oxen. In all places where I record my name, I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee.” (Exodus 24-26).

‘In the days of ‘Peleg’, Noah divided the earth between his sons, Shem, Ham and Jephet and they were to go forth and multiply. Africa was given to Ham, the temperate zones to Shem and the frigid zones to Japhet. In every zone they occupied we find the earthen mounds… in a great variety of form and arrangement.

The Berber Project by the late Dr. Barry Fell (Professor Emeritus of Harvard University) states that the Vikings believed North America was, at one time, a peninsula of North Africa. Herodotus described a place ' beyond the Pillars of Hercules where the Carthaginians traded for precious metals. He wrote that the local natives used ‘smoke signals’ to communicate over long distances. (An obvious reference to an ancient custom the Native American Indian adopted from the ancient people.)

We also find historical evidence and the significance of the earthen mounds and temples in Numbers 33:53 where it is recorded that the Israelites were commanded by their god to pluck down and destroy the monuments, temples and statues of the idolaters that built ‘high places’ and worshiped pictures.

By the 1880’s, due to the fear of discovery brought on by an increased interest in archeology, the establishments of Christendom ordered
that all archaeological excavations be brought under
the strictest control, with all funding and undertakings first being approved by the designated authorities.

In 1891, the Egyptian Exploration Fund was established in Britain and, based off its first page of Memorandum and Articles of Association; the modus operandi for modern archeology was established – ‘to promote excavation work for the purpose of elucidating or illustrating the Old Testament narrative.’ This meant if something was found supporting written biblical history, the public would be informed. If the discovery and its information did not ‘support the church’s interpretation’ it was ‘shelved’.

From the desires of James Smithson to create a legacy for himself, the Smithsonian Institution was born. Smithson died in 1829, leaving his fortune to his nephew James Henry Hungerford, stipulating that if Hungerford died without an heir, his inheritance would be passed over to the United States Government to be used for the increase and diffusion of knowledge. Hungerford died in 1835, without an heir,
and the United States Government inherited more than a half million dollars. However, due to some controversy, t
hey did not ‘officially’ accept the money until 1846.

In 1881 the Congress of the United States gave $5000 to the Smithsonian Institution to conduct archeological excavations
for the study of the pre-historic mound builders and their earthen works.

Mr. Wills de Haas of Wheeling, who had studied the Grave Green Mound in Moundsville, West Virginia, was the first to be put in charge of the project. After a year he resigned and was replaced by Cyrus Thomas who continued the project until 1890. By the completion of the project in 1890, over 2000 mounds and earthworks had been studied in the eastern United States.

The Smithsonian wanted to re-write history by suppressing
any evidence that gave credibility to the School of Thought
known as ‘Diffusion’, which is a belief that throughout history there was an interaction of people with world wide travel and trade.

Their goal was to replace ‘Diffusion’ with ‘Isolation’, creating a history whereas civilizations were born and existed, with little or no contact between them. With this new thought, they maintained that even contact between the civilizations of the Ohio and Mississippi Valleys was non-existent except on a rare occasion. This new teaching was not only false but ridiculous, when you consider that the river system reached to the Gulf of Mexico and these civilizations lived as close to each other as the opposite shore of the Gulf.

Manipulation of the history of North America and its cultures was perpetuated through the historical fabrications of their appointed archeologists and historians, based off the political and religious agendas of the time. In an attempt to instill racial bias against the Native American Indian, early American and European archaeologists carefully selected Native American skulls that depicted a being of inferior intelligence. These skulls would then be used as a teaching aide to demonstrate the superiority of the European over the Indian. Scholars would then follow up by disseminating this written propaganda. An example of this can be found in the words of an important government official and popular writer, Henry Schoolcraft (1793-1864), who was ironically married to a woman who was half Native American Indian.

“The Indian has a low, bushy brow, beneath which a dull, sleepy, half-closed eye seems to mark the ferocious passions that are dormant within. The acute angles of the eyes seldom present the obliquity so common in the Malays and the Mongolians. The color of the eye is almost uniformly a tint between black and grey; but even in young persons it seldom has the brightness, or expresses the vivacity, so common in the more civilized races.”

By 1882, the political agenda had changed and there was no longer an interest or desire to profile the Native American Indian as a savage or an intellectually void people. Being that the public opinion of the Native American Indian was very low, they opted to use the Smithsonian archeologists and historians to once again manipulate historical facts and change the history of North America and its cultures.

The Smithsonian created the Bureau of Ethnology and Executive John Wesley Powell hired Cyrus Thomas to head up the fieldwork.

By 1894, Cyrus Thomas muddied the waters of our history again by publishing the Report on the Mound Explorations of the Bureau of Ethnology, proclaiming that the mound builders were ‘not’ a vanished race but the ancestors of the Native American Indian. From that point of time, any focus of pre-existing cultures prior to the Native American Indian was squelched. Once the question of the identity of the mound builders was directed away from any pre-existing advanced cultures, the archeologists then blindly focused all their attention on the development of North American Indian cultures- regardless of validity. On a positive note, however, by linking the living factions of the Native American people with the more ancient mound building people, a faintly successful preservation of the mounds came about.

Native American Indian Tradition Speaks
on the Survivors of Atlantis in North America

The Berber described the inhabitants of Atlantis as wealthy in gold, silver, copper and tin. Not content with these riches, they launched a military invasion of other lands, cut short by the Great Flood that drowned their homeland.

The Atep, Siouan name given to the calumet or ‘peace pipe’, is the single most sacred object among all Native American tribes and smoked only ritually.

It was given to them by the Manitou (Great Spirit) immediately after a catastrophic conflagration and flood destroyed a former world or Age, which was ruled over from a “big lodge” on an island in the Atlantic Ocean.

The survivors were commanded by the Great Spirit to fashion the ceremonial pipes from Catlinite (pipestone), a mineral found only in the southwest corner of Minnesota (Pipestone National Monument) and Barron County (Pipestone Mountain), in northwestern Wisconsin. According to legend, in these two places alone, the bodies of the drowned sinners had come to rest, their red flesh transformed into easily worked stone. The bowl of the ceremonial pipe represents the female principle, while the stem stands for the male, signifying the men and women who perished in the flood. Uniting these two symbols and smoking tobacco in the pipe was understood as a commemoration of the cataclysm and admonition to subsequent generations against defying the will of God.

‘Atali’ lives in the memory of the Cherokee as the home of their ancestors before the Great Flood. The Cherokee called their ancestors ‘Atsilagigai’, which is a rendering of the word for ‘Atlantean’. The Cherokee word ‘Atsilagigai’ means ‘Men from the Place of the Red Fire’ (volcanic island).

The Mississippi Choctaw Indians speak of a time when their people were invaded by the ‘Na-hu-lo’ or ‘The Horned Giants’. The Choctaw described them as a white race of giants with red and blonde hair. These giants wore an extra layer of heavy skin, which made them impenetrable to their arrows, spears and war clubs. The invaders were said to have been cannibals and feasted on the bodies of their enemies.

The Choctaw also tell of yet another race of men who they called the ‘Na-hon-lo’. These people were also of large stature, with fair complexion, linking their origins to the place of the rising sun or the East. Unlike the other group, they were peaceful and tiller of the soil. According to W. D. Funkhouse, Professor of Zoology, author of Ancient Life in Kentucky, these people domesticated the great mammoth and used them as beasts of burden. The mammoths were closely herded and were responsible for breaking down and devouring the forests, creating the prairies that exist today.

The Chippewa, Sandusky and Tawa Tribes also tell of the existence of ‘bearded’ giants. According to Jonathan Brooks, his father, Benjamin Brooks, lived with the Indians for fourteen years and became well-acquainted with their language and traditions. Benjamin told his son that, according to their accounts, the first to occupy this country was a giant race with black beards. Later, another giant race came to the land and either killed or drove off the race of black beards.

Ohio Native American Indian traditions retain the story of two separate races of humans that pre-existed their culture. One was the archaic people, described as having slender bodies and long narrow heads. The other group was the Adena people, described as having massive bone structure and short heads.

The Keetoowah relate the story of a race of giants, known as the Ani-Ku-Tani, a clan of priest-kings and religious aristocracy. The Kutani came to abuse their powers and started oppressing the Keetoowah, taking the best their society could produce and forcing the Keetoowah to build their mounds for religious temples. Not only were the Kutani greatly feared but their oppressive taxation and arrogant domination became deeply resented. This eventually led to warfare resulting in the extermination of the Kutani.

Robert Conley, author of The White Path, writing of the massacre of the Ani Ku Tani, stated that the victory over the Kutani was a hollow one. Without the structure provided by the Kutani, the society of the Real People (Cherokee) collapsed with infighting and increasing violent squabbling. The Kutani had provided them with protection and the Cherokee were left vulnerable to Suwalis, another group who were seeking power over the region and its people. Conley stated that at least one of these priest-kings survived the massacre. He was taken captive by the Cherokee, knowing that he was the only person alive that still carried the knowledge of the great secrets of the ancient priesthood along with a sacred writing that brought physical shape to the language.

Many believe that Prophet Joseph Smith visited the Cherokee in the early 1800's and heard the story of the Ani Ku Ta Ni. It was there that he learned they possessed a writing system and a written record of their history and genealogy.

In 1825, Tuscorora David Cusic wrote, “The Ronnongwetowanca were a powerful tribe of giants and had a considerable habitation. After having endured the outrages of these giants for a great long time, the people banded together to destroy them. With a final force of about 800 warriors, they successfully annihilated the abhorrent Ronnongwetowanca.” According to Cusic, this happened around 2,500 years before the arrival of Columbus in America.

Ancient Miners

“Look for the country of Aztalan, the original country of the Aztecs, as high up at least as the 42nd parallel north; whence, journeying, they at last arrived in the vale of Mexico. In that vale the earthen mounds of the far north become the elegant stone pyramidal and other structures whose remains are now found.” H. P. Blavatsky

The Megalith Builders (4500- 1500 B.C.) were a race of people, erased from our history, who had achieved a knowledge of the sciences far superior to ours today. Traces of their culture in the Americas can be found in the stone structures they left behind during the Bronze Age.

According to an article in the November 1948 issue of Atlantis, Dr. P.L. Collignon’s hypotheses is that the Rhesus negative (Rhneg) Basques were one of the many groups of refugees from Atlantis. Archeologist Sykes, stated in an article he wrote on Blood Groupings in the July 1959 issue of New World Antiquity that the Rhesus negative factor was introduced into Europe thousands of years ago by a migrating people. Although we find a small percentage of rhesus negative people spread throughout Europe; we find a high percentage among the Basques, the Albanians, and Guanches of the Canary or Fortunate Isles.

Approximately 3000 B.C. mining operations began at Tyranena, an area near Lake Mills, Wisconsin. This became one of the bases of operation for the early Tyranenian miners and traders of copper mined in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. From Tyranena, the traders traveled the Rock River to the Mississippi River and then down to the Gulf of Mexico. The Tyranenians ceased mining operations around 1200 B. C. and left the area. Before leaving they flooded the site, creating a lake to protect their secrets and dead left behind.

In acknowledgement of Tyranena and its people, land was set aside for a park in Lake Mills and given the name Tyranena Park. The park is located on the north end of Rock Lake, which hides the pyramids under its waters.

According to the lunar date given in Plato’s dialogues and the Egyptian records, Atlantis was destroyed in the month of the Goddess Hathor, which corresponds to November 1198 B.C. date.

Approximately 900 A.D. Aztec astronomer-priests and their miners again established a point camp, at the abandoned Tyranenian settlement. Naming the settlement Aztalan, it became a center for their intercontinental copper trade. Around 1300 A.D. they ceased operations and moved southward to Mexico. According to Baron Humboldt, when the Spaniards overran Mexico it was inhabited by a people known as the ‘Azteekin’ or ‘Aztekas’ who were usurpers that came from a country in the north, known as Aztalan. Its location was north of the forty-second degree of north latitude.” (He further examined hieroglyphs or pictures in the Mexican or Azteka manuscript, which depicts this migration.)

H. P. Blavatsky, wrote in The Secret Doctrine, that Baron Humboldt said, “Look for the country of Aztalan, the original country of the Aztecs, as high up at least as the 42nd parallel north; whence, journeying, they at last arrived in the vale of Mexico. In that vale the earthen mounds of the far north become the elegant stone pyramidal and other structures whose remains are now found.”

Dr. Barry Fell, Bronze Age America, cites a passage from the Harris Payrus claiming that some of King David’s huge stockpile of copper ore, used for the building of King Solomon’s Temple, came from the Phoenician's North American trading routes:

After the defeat of the ‘Sea People’, Ramses III, Pharaoh of the XX Dynasty (identified with Plato’s Atlanteans) declares in the Harris Papyrus:

“I sent out an expedition to the land of ‘Ataka’ for the great foundries of copper which are in that place. Our transport ships were loaded. Having located the foundries loaded with metal, loaded as myriads upon our ships, they sailed back to Egypt, arriving safely. The cargo was piled in stores as hundreds of thousands of the color of gold. I let the people see them like marvels.”

Frank Joseph, author of The Lost Pyramids of Rock Lake, explains that Ataka is an Egyptian linguistic inflection of the Atlanteans’ original name for Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. The prefix ‘At’ was often used to designate Atlantean holdings.

Plato describes them as pre-eminent miners of the world’s highest-grade copper.

Ramses mentions ‘foundries’, which suggests that large-scale mining operations existed throughout the Upper Great Lakes area. After the Atlanteans (sea people) were defeated and captured by Ramses, they divulged the location of their copper sources in North America. The Egyptian ships then ventured a transatlantic crossing. He does not indicate any trade negotiations or military operations in Ataka, but simple seizure of the vast amounts of copper, as though there was no one there with whom to barter or fight.

According to an article in the November 1948 issue of Atlantis, Dr. P.L. Collignon’s hypotheses is that the Rhesus negative (Rh Negative) Basques were one of many groups of refugees from Atlantis. Archeologist Sykes, stated in an article he wrote on Blood Groupings in the July 1959 issue of New World Antiquity that the Rhesus negative factor was introduced into Europe thousands of years ago by a migrating people. Although we find a small percentage of rhesus negative people spread throughout Europe; we find a high percentage among the Basques, the Albanians, and Guanches of the Canary or Fortunate Isles.

Aztalan’s ancient miners’ veneration of the dog links them to the people of the Canary Islands and Egypt.

The root ‘CAN’ is a derivative of the word Cain or Canaan and is Latin for Dog. (CAN-ine)

After the early Romans made their first visit to the Islands in the Second Century B. C., they began calling the natives ‘dog people’ due to their worship of the dog. This type of worship mirrors the Egyptian veneration of Anubis, the dog-headed god who led the souls from the material world, through the veil, into the after life.

In the Egyptian City of Cynopolis (Dog City), tens of thousands of mummified dogs were found buried.

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Thursday, February 19, 2009

Hi Mary, Thank you for the newsletter.
I would like to send you my comments below regarding what this author writes as an example of my concerns for people who read this.

The pyramids were used by these evil gods and not by ordinary people.
The pyramids were very possibly built for just what the author is writing about, but they were built by and for the evil gods we refer to as Nordic Aryan Alien "Fallen Watchers," "Reptilians" their giant offsprings etc., to be used by them for all sorts of purposes, not to mention traveling in and out of our dimension. The kings who worshipped these gods were human hybrids. Most of us who DO OUR HOMEWORK understand that they were never used as tombs. They were disabled for a very important reason Mary REMEMBER THAT.

Remember ordinary human beings were victims of these entities and their giant off springs. These evil entities are at war with each other. The Battle of Armageddon is a war between these gods with their ruling human hybrid kings ordinary "Sleeping Sheeple" tossed into the mix today.

The wonder of this undiscovered technology draws us in with awe and wonder, however they are the evil satanic forces that have kept humanity in a sort of prison camp environment on earth. Jesus (Yashua) referred to the reptilians as "Snakes" and the Grays as "Scorpions." He told the Jews and Israelites that they were worshipping evil gods.

Please be careful, you are playing the games with these evil gods and I am worried about you. O.K.



While it may be evident that the ancient builders built the pyramids and energy focusing structures on the grid points and bands in order to stabilize and harvest energy, it is equally important to know that these sites were also used for “spiritual consciousness”. These pyramidal machines helped attune people to the necessary vibrations in order to make a “DIMENSIONAL SHIFT CHANGE!”


THE USE PEOPLE WITH HYBRID BLOODLINES, TO DO THEIR BIDDING. Through the study of DNA, science of today is beginning to understand the science of the ancient stone people. Today’s opinion on DNA, the ancient cabalistic "Tree Of Life" portrayed in the Biblical Torah, is now coming to be viewed as a “live vibrating structure”, rather than a fixed tape recording. Many scientists now regard DNA as a “shimmering, waveform configuration, able to be modified by light, radiation, magnetic fields or sonic pulses”. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HAD THEIR BLOODLINE MODIED WHO CARRY THE “SERPENT BLOODLINE” FACTOR.

ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THOSE PROMOTING THE TORAH AND THE CABALISTIC TREE OF LIFE ARE PROMOTING THE “ALIEN AGENDA’S” THESE TORAH WRITERS WERE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THESE EVIL ENTITEIS THEY WRONGLY CALLED GODS WHEN THEY WROTE THE TORAH AND WHEN THE RULED OVER THE RELIGIONS IN ISRAEL. The ancient Enochians described this to be our first language, a true language of light, known as “Hiburu”. According to the Enochians our first language, “Hiburu”, was a true language of light, coursing through our very nervous system with alphabetic forms emerging from the phosphene flare patterns of the brain. (The same shapes, in fact, born of a spinning vortex) Encoding the natural waveform geometries of the physical world, Hiburu becomes a harmonic language, mimicking the waveform properties of light. The “keys” to the vibratory matrix of reality itself became known as the “keys of Enoch”. The Enochians described sonic equations, encoded within the ancient mantras and god names, capable of directly affecting the nervous system and producing profound effect of healing and higher consciousness states


In describing the "language of Light" affecting our DNA, the Enochians further go on to tell us that today’s human DNA, like the ancient ones, will soon be altered and we will evolve beyond our present terrestrial form.


Thank you for your comments….and yes I will be careful


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Hi Mary,
Thank you for the article. You have some interesting points in it that I want to take time to review. Especially the rh neg. Hyperborean continent origin.

MARY'S Response,

Yes we have talked quite a few times in the distant past Mary.

I have been busy trying to launce my own website which is not working yet. I am also trying to write a book in the process so I am not talking with people on line these days.

I am very aware that the “Alien Agenda Serpent Bloodline” version of facts
is all over the net regarding the origins of their hybrid Rh Negative bloodline. I simply want people to realize there are two very separate Rh Negative bloodlines groups, one belonging to Jesus (Yashua) and the Nazarene descendents and the other bloodline group that is the “Serpent Bloodline” which is a hybrid line that was bred with
and bred into the PURE Rh Negative bloodline.

Most people publish the flawed data on line that takes the reader back to the Basque, French and Spanish connections for the “Serpent Bloodlines” with out realizing that the bloodline that migrated into these areas, were the ones who bred with the original Scandinavians, which were the Serpent Bloodlines. They were transported into these areas by the “Sea People” and took up residence in Spain, France and the British Isles long after the Scandinavians settled in the areas.

What I find online are people who write a sort of “Copy Cat” article using the data, which promotes the “Serpent Bloodline” data.
Sir Laurence Gardner, (a practicing hybrid himself), has drawn people into this same web of misinformation, disinformation and lies while he promotes his Rh Negative “Serpent Bloodline” version of facts.

YOU Wrote:

I don't know if you read H P Blavatsky's "Secret Doctrine" but she gives information there on what you are studying.

Mary's Comments:

Yes Mary, I am familiar with her work. I do not trust all of her works because she associated with agents who promoted lies, misinformation and disinformation and because she used spirit guides as a source for some of her data.

I don’t disagree with everything she writes about, I am just very picky about her material, however she has opened the door in many very important areas.

If we are living in the End Times than we have to be very suspicious of what goes on in dark rooms, behind closed doors, etc. These guides appear to be “Evil Spirits” pretending to be the “Good Guys.” Many of them are the Nordic Aryan Alien “Fallen Watchers,” or the souls of their hybrid Nephilim, who are looking to in body and exploit human beings, the reptilians are also constantly terrifying human beings and these groups are at war with each other. All of these evil groups have sub groups who work from other dimensions and they are all the enemies of human beings. All FALSELY CLAIMING to be aliens when they are actually demonic other dimensional entities that have a LONG TRACK RECORD of terrorizing and murdering human beings through out history.

So much of the data coming from people who are visited by these guides, or have visions and dreams, which they report on, have experiences that are simply not accurate. Jesus (Yashua) told us to TEST EVERY SPIRIT. Now I am no longer a Christian so I don’t want to sound religious here but I do consider myself to be a Nazarene Gnostic and as such I DO MY HOMEWORK instead of FOLLOWING THE CHRISTIAN VIEW POINTS (which are seriously flawed) and the NEW AGE ALIEN AGENDA CAMPS (who follow these evil guides).

I also rely on science, archeology, astronomy, history, legends, Nag Hammadi documents and in same cases myths in order to DIG FOR THE TRUTH.

In the last 10 years it has become obvious that the New Age and Christian view points dominate the web and neither of these groups DO THEIR HOMEWORK they seem to play COPY CAT games, which represent the view of those groups. None of them DIG DEEPER and come out of their BOXES. It is depressing to go on line these days and then what I most often find at the top of the Goggle search’s are the bloggers who do the same thing. I just thought it was time that someone puts data out their that represents a more true path to what is happening in our world.

I don’t mean to sound like I am on a Soap Box here; I guess I am just venting my frustrations. I am concerned for people who simply fall in line with these two groups with out realizing that both groups are promoting flawed beliefs. It is so much easier to LET THE PACK
lead and fall in line as a “Sleeping Sheeple.”


I think my answer can best be given by using the words of Thoth from the Emerald Records:

The Emerald Tablets:
"In the form of man moved they amongst us, but only to sight, were they as are men.

Serpent headed when the glamour was lifted, but appearing to man as men among men.

Crept they into the councils, taking form that were like unto men.

Slaying by their arts the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er men.

Only by magic could they be discovered,
only by sound could their faces be seen.

Sought they from the kingdom of shadows,
to destroy man and rule in his place."

Your writing is quite correct and it is VERY IMPORTANT to learn “HOW TO DISCERN THE SPIRIT”

The greatest “defense” the Devil (Dark Forces) has is in the fact that most people don’t believe in him (them)

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it may, or it may NOT be, what we believe, however, we thought
the content of it, was interesting
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Dick Stuphen is on this radio show

Soul Agreement with Best Selling Author Richard Sutphen

Dick Sutphen is a bestselling author of 19 New Age books. He offers hundreds of mind-programming CDs to improve your life or manifest psychic experiences. At professional hypnosis conferences, he instructs medical professionals in how to use his life-changing techniques.http://www.dicksutphen.com

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