For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative

Orion Morris · 10-07-2008, 05:48 PM

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!

Thunderbird · 10-07-2008, 05:51 PM

hehe funny that....

Sarahmay · 10-07-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Orion Morris

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!

AMEN! Thanks for this!!!

mudra · 10-07-2008, 06:10 PM

You missed the " 7th october take it as an opportunity thread ".
It still time to join there and ride on the good vibes.

kindness

mudra

Wellerite · 10-07-2008, 06:21 PM

"We are watching and experiencing a society turning to chaos. That is the essence of change, that outward forces demolish so that the inner idea, the spiritual power, shall be released to re-form. This is the adventure of soul metamorphosis. As we awaken to the truth that we are eternal spiritual beings who can dedicate ourselves to the service of the world as conscious instruments through which the higher worlds can channel themselves, so we expand in consciousness and move into levels of light... this is the challenge and destiny of our time." -Sir George Trevelyan

Chew on that Morris my friend

10-07-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wellerite

"We are watching and experiencing a society turning to chaos.

No here they are feeding and wishing for society to turn into chaos. If enough people scream that the backs will fail on a set day, and many fall for the fear... they will run out and pull their money... and by doing so CREATE the chaos they claim is happening 'beyond their control'

LightSaber · 10-07-2008, 06:19 PM

Agree Orion Morris,

There is much to be said for living in the "NOW." The future will come in it's own time. Take heart knowing that like attracts like (their time will come). We all on this forum know our spirits live past the physical so stop worrying. Be calm, be strong and live in this present moment. Stop letting your consciousness be dictated by what may be a plan to use our thoughts to create "their" will.

Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.

10-07-2008, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris

I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments.

Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news.

People need to chill out!!!
This has happened before and it will happen again!

Thank you for providing the voice of sanity.

You enjoy that cold one, my friend.

Orion11 · 10-07-2008, 06:43 PM

I agree Orion!!!

it seems that alot of people forget.........

that the Universe knows what Its doing......
and everything is going to happen as it should....

chillax eh?

its like a fear monger factory rooun here half the time.. lol

smile or somethin.

cheers Orion M!~ K+
(/|\)

Sanat · 10-07-2008, 07:41 PM

Yea, this forum is no longer a nice place to be. It has attracted a lot of self-serving parasites spreading dis-ease and darkness. The cleanup has really not changed anything. Perhaps the solution is to start charging some money for it. Most parasites would rather find some host that is "free".

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 10-07-2008, 07:49 PM

so your saying god /universe is going to give you an easy ride into a golden paradise. we will just meditate and dream our way into it .. il ike to stike a balance.. learning new info is only fear mongering of your suceptible to fear.. we are adult enough to take what someone says and interpret it ourselves.. if you dont agree wioth an info thread you dont have to look at it..

i think i smell fear somehwere. its not comoing from me tho. i want to know it all , tyhe most diabolical plans and awful acts planned for us.. then i know what to look out for, what to avoid and how i might best prepare to avoid and fight it/ help others. knowledge is power!! some people are a bit fagile on here and are clearly nbot gonna make it if it gets rough and tumble .. good luck to all tho

Orion Morris · 10-07-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

so your saying god /universe is going to give you an easy ride into a golden paradise.

Wow!! I never read anything like that on this thread!

I also think that Oct 7th is almost past... and nothing happened!

How much energy did this whole community waste on the whole prediction?

I for one was a little worried about it....

I am just saying that alot of our energy is wasted on pointing to very terrible realities. I do not think that being ignorant about future possibilites is the way to go about it, but I also think it is a waste for a bunch of computer nerds to sit around and scare the s**t out of eachother all day.
Especially when I bet not even 10% of us could live off the land during the winter time. Like I said before, everybody would be craping their pants if things really got hairy!

10-07-2008, 08:18 PM

I guess the best policy is just to hope that all the systems that keep us in slavery carry on then. Preserve the status quo eh? That way all our kids can have lives just as empty and even more oppressed than ours. And their kids, ad infinitum. Good plan!

Do you really look at the world and think it's in good working order, benefiting us all? Do you think you're going to wake up one morning and everything is suddenly going to be hunky dory, the masters of greed and starvation and diseases and economic slavery all suddenly replaced by thousands of King Arthur's without anything collapsing first?

If so you have more than enough positivity for all of us

10-08-2008, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunrunner

Preserve the status quo eh? That way all our kids can have lives just as empty and even more oppressed than ours.

The most intelligent post on this thread.

Newliving · 10-07-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Orion Morris

I also think that Oct 7th is almost past... and nothing happened!

Urban Survival's analysis at http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm makes interesting reading.

Scroll down to When's this a "Crash"?

Sherab · 10-07-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Orion Morris

Wow!! I never read anything like that on this thread!

I also think that Oct 7th is almost past... and nothing happened!

How much energy did this whole community waste on the whole prediction?

I for one was a little worried about it....

I am just saying that alot of our energy is wasted on pointing to very terrible realities. I do not think that being ignorant about future possibilites is the way to go about it, but I also think it is a waste for a bunch of computer nerds to sit around and scare the s**t out of eachother all day.
Especially when I bet not even 10% of us could live off the land during the winter time. Like I said before, everybody would be craping their pants if things really got hairy!

This post is priceless!! roflmao!!!

I agree 110%...with a 10% boost for the humor. Keep it up Orion!

Orion Morris · 10-07-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

i think i smell fear somehwere. its not comoing from me tho.

figures... it is never our fault

Carol · 10-07-2008, 08:23 PM

Sometimes when looking at some threads it appears someone is shouting fire. Or someone else sees perhaps a child playing with matches and goes into a panic thinking Fire. These posts can serve a purpose if they are used to shift into a prevention mode. If there is a fire, call the fire department. Here it is calling upon our community spiritual light brigage to focus their positive energy and intent on a specific event and/or potential to help alter the outcome.

Often times, when this has been done and a new outcome did occur, the community at large may just say... well it didn't happen, so it wouldn't of happened, so what's the big deal.

There was this one research article where a group of monks went into a very high crime area and began to meditate for a period of months. Throughout the entire time they were there meditating crime decreased. This was statical data gleened from various police reports.

Positive intention at the group level works. Often it is the unseen spiritual influence that generates miracles. I suspect our Avalon community stepped up to the plate to join in a global prayer to shift the negative potential in a different direction. Yup... that's what I felt on the inside.

Newliving · 10-07-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Carol

There was this one research article where a group of monks went into a very high crime area and began to meditate for a period of months. Throughout the entire time they were there meditating crime decreased. This was statical data gleened from various police reports.

Positive intention at the group level works. Often it is the unseen spiritual influence that generates miracles. I suspect our Avalon community stepped up to the plate to join in a global prayer to shift the negative potential in a different direction. Yup... that's what I felt on the inside.

I know this to be true, having been part of large groups of Yogic Flyers in the 1980s, when statistical analysis proved the benefits of 'increased coherence in collective consciousness' in a given area where the number of Flyers was more than the square root of 1% of the population. So yes, let those who can, do.

For those who can't, or won't, a different approach is helpful, I feel, and that's where 'service to others' may take a more practical, hands-on role, in whatever ways one feels so inclined or able. Every little helps?

dragonfly · 10-07-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Carol

Positive intention at the group level works. Often it is the unseen spiritual influence that generates miracles. I suspect our Avalon community stepped up to the plate to join in a global prayer to shift the negative potential in a different direction. Yup... that's what I felt on the inside.

Yeah

Doesn't anyone want to consider that perhaps we thwarted it ourselves? Slowed it down at least. I don't think they are going to give up until they throw out the last card, but we sure can make a difference. I beleive we have, and the more of us waking the more power we will have. Please, let's stop arguing. Nobody gets anywhere proving themselves. Unless you live to feed ego. That's ok. I prefer truth. Itegrity. Life!

We are here to share and empower one another. Pretty simple and caring I would say.

Seva · 10-08-2008, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Carol

Sometimes when looking at some threads it appears someone is shouting fire. Or someone else sees perhaps a child playing with matches and goes into a panic thinking Fire. These posts can serve a purpose if they are used to shift into a prevention mode. If there is a fire, call the fire department. Here it is calling upon our community spiritual light brigage to focus their positive energy and intent on a specific event and/or potential to help alter the outcome.

Often times, when this has been done and a new outcome did occur, the community at large may just say... well it didn't happen, so it wouldn't of happened, so what's the big deal.

There was this one research article where a group of monks went into a very high crime area and began to meditate for a period of months. Throughout the entire time they were there meditating crime decreased. This was statical data gleened from various police reports.

Positive intention at the group level works. Often it is the unseen spiritual influence that generates miracles. I suspect our Avalon community stepped up to the plate to join in a global prayer to shift the negative potential in a different direction. Yup... that's what I felt on the inside.

I feel that aswell

alot of groups were doing focused meditations. also being aware of something changes the outcome like schrodingers cat. All the things they are planning, were planning, but then a new thing in the mix, people are awake now, mind you they are cranky as hell but atleast they are awake. And maybe that makes a HUGE difference, you cant sneak up on the AWAKE - im speaking of the effects on the general populace.

about the negative stuff, well on one hand you wanna know you need to know, its like knowing where the dog pooped on the lawn so you dont step in it. but i did feel sick to my stomach after i listened to deagle and that feeling went on for 2 days. fear can freeze you. depends on what you do with it, this place for example is putting forth a avenue for solution, as in yes all this sucks and yes all this is happening but we can do this to counter act it. It is resistance to the helplessness this fear can lead u to.

Im sure 99% of us are not ready in anyway for it hitting the fan. Im not and that drives me nuts when i hear stuff like what deagle said. and i sure do feel a sigh of relief as it turns oct 8th LOL but im here, and im working with others who want to be a solution, as fumbling as it feels now, im driven to study permaculture, increase my knowledge of alternative healing methods, wherever i feel it pull me to learn. and networking with others. keeping my mind focused on the solutions the true intention of what this place is for what keeping me grounded right now.... best it can...

so many other places have fallen into fearmongering and bickering i hope that does not come to this place. actually it cant lol becasue we dont have time to play those games anymore

and many here feel that. BIG HUGS TO EVERYONE

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 10-07-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Orion Morris

figures... it is never our fault

ive no idea what your getting at .. but whos fault ect ect blah blah about whatever is useless to go into..

as for nothing happening,in the usa nothing happened,in the uk however it was quite eventful. it was the start of the end of our banking system. 300 000 people had £4billion frozen in an icelandic internet bank. the 2 major uk banks had a meeting with the treasury today. barclays rbs and lloyds/tsb are gonna be bailed out/nationalised.. october 7th was indeed a landmark day.

will i dwell on it ? NO. would i rather know whats going on? YES i admit im slack, ive still got food stocks to get and a water filter and some survival clothing.. im not quite as prepared as some on here so im still happy to get more info as required..

Orion Morris · 10-07-2008, 08:49 PM

I am sorry if I came across wrong...

Honestly I just got my first teaching job and for the first time I am able to make a difference and see it on a daily basis. I also have to serve weekends in jail because of a d.u.i that I earned last year sometime. I worry that if things go to hell here like economic crash followed by looting and possibly martial law that I woudl be stuck in jail. I dont know how many of you have actually had your freedom taken from you physically but it will change what you appreciate. I do not want to be stuck in the clink when anything happens because I have a feeling that they will just keep all the inmates there. I put off the last two weekends because I was worried about all this talk about october 7th and then nothing happened. Then today when I got on avalon everybody was still talking about everything that "could" happen. I know that no matter how prepared we are it is going to hurt for everybody when this system that we ARE all addicted to right now collapses under our feet.

I want to change the system more than anything right now...
But for those of you who believe that our thoughts manifest into reality then I feel like it is pointless to point out all these horrible possabilites. I am not saying that all of them are not relevant to post...

But I do believe that some people are just sifting through news and finding scary conspiritorial stories and posting them on here to self satisfy....

Then look at all the predictions and false theories that have been posted that we have wasted our thought on....

I just feel like we need to laugh and love a little more... maybe throw a party.. while we can!!

undetected · 10-07-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Orion Morris

But I do believe that some people are just sifting through news and finding scary conspiritorial stories and posting them on here to self satisfy....

Sure some people do that. But try to imagine how tough the moderators' job is, walking on the line between "weeding out the bad users" and "censorship." You ban anyone posting negative stuff, you get accused of choosing what messages you want here and denying freedom, blabla. You leave them be and you get other users complaining about these users. Not easy to handle all that imo, especially considering how many new posts appear every minute.

Let's just tough it out and deal with whatever people post. Take what you like, ignore the rest. And let the mods do the moderating. You can't have a "perfect" forum on this imperfect planet.

Racsouran · 10-07-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by undetected

Sure some people do that. But try to imagine how tough the moderators' job is, walking on the line between "weeding out the bad users" and "censorship." You ban anyone posting negative stuff, you get accused of choosing what messages you want here and denying freedom, blabla. You leave them be and you get other users complaining about these users. Not easy to handle all that imo, especially considering how many new posts appear every minute.

Let's just tough it out and deal with whatever people post. Take what you like, ignore the rest. And let the mods do the moderating. You can't have a "perfect" forum on this imperfect planet.

i would never take the responsability of being a mod in any forum, not just this one.

10-07-2008, 05:48 PM	#1
Orion Morris Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 416	For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative I was looking at all these posts and it seems like alot of us have some kind of apocolyptic death wish. The threads are directed towards negative topics and scary thoughts. Even some of the ones that are positive are almost dissapointed that nothing has happened today on October 7th. I personally am pretty happy that I can go home tonight and crack open a cold one. We are watching the stock market crash with excited comments. Seriously whats up? Why would you want to see everything in such chaos? I am guessing more than half of you would wet your panties if it actually did get crazy. You wouldnt know what to do without your damn computer. I just think it hypocritical of us all to say that a positive reality is created by our thoughts and then this whole fourm is about fifty times more negative then the f**kin news. People need to chill out!!! This has happened before and it will happen again!

10-07-2008, 05:51 PM	#2
Thunderbird Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 309	Re: For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative hehe funny that....

10-07-2008, 06:10 PM	#4
mudra Avalon Spiritual Mother Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 4,919	Re: For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative You missed the " 7th october take it as an opportunity thread ". It still time to join there and ride on the good vibes. kindness mudra

10-07-2008, 06:21 PM	#5
Wellerite Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Perfect Moment Posts: 76	Re: For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative "We are watching and experiencing a society turning to chaos. That is the essence of change, that outward forces demolish so that the inner idea, the spiritual power, shall be released to re-form. This is the adventure of soul metamorphosis. As we awaken to the truth that we are eternal spiritual beings who can dedicate ourselves to the service of the world as conscious instruments through which the higher worlds can channel themselves, so we expand in consciousness and move into levels of light... this is the challenge and destiny of our time." -Sir George Trevelyan Chew on that Morris my friend

10-07-2008, 06:19 PM	#7
LightSaber Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 9	Re: For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative Agree Orion Morris, There is much to be said for living in the "NOW." The future will come in it's own time. Take heart knowing that like attracts like (their time will come). We all on this forum know our spirits live past the physical so stop worrying. Be calm, be strong and live in this present moment. Stop letting your consciousness be dictated by what may be a plan to use our thoughts to create "their" will. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.

10-07-2008, 06:43 PM	#9
Orion11 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,098	Re: For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative I agree Orion!!! it seems that alot of people forget......... that the Universe knows what Its doing...... and everything is going to happen as it should.... chillax eh? its like a fear monger factory rooun here half the time.. lol smile or somethin. cheers Orion M!~ K+ (/\|\)

10-07-2008, 07:41 PM	#10
Sanat Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 413	Re: For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative Yea, this forum is no longer a nice place to be. It has attracted a lot of self-serving parasites spreading dis-ease and darkness. The cleanup has really not changed anything. Perhaps the solution is to start charging some money for it. Most parasites would rather find some host that is "free".

10-07-2008, 07:49 PM	#11
pineal-pilot-in merkabah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 1,153	Re: For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative so your saying god /universe is going to give you an easy ride into a golden paradise. we will just meditate and dream our way into it .. il ike to stike a balance.. learning new info is only fear mongering of your suceptible to fear.. we are adult enough to take what someone says and interpret it ourselves.. if you dont agree wioth an info thread you dont have to look at it.. i think i smell fear somehwere. its not comoing from me tho. i want to know it all , tyhe most diabolical plans and awful acts planned for us.. then i know what to look out for, what to avoid and how i might best prepare to avoid and fight it/ help others. knowledge is power!! some people are a bit fagile on here and are clearly nbot gonna make it if it gets rough and tumble .. good luck to all tho

10-07-2008, 08:18 PM	#13
Steve_G Guest Posts: n/a	Re: For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative I guess the best policy is just to hope that all the systems that keep us in slavery carry on then. Preserve the status quo eh? That way all our kids can have lives just as empty and even more oppressed than ours. And their kids, ad infinitum. Good plan! Do you really look at the world and think it's in good working order, benefiting us all? Do you think you're going to wake up one morning and everything is suddenly going to be hunky dory, the masters of greed and starvation and diseases and economic slavery all suddenly replaced by thousands of King Arthur's without anything collapsing first? If so you have more than enough positivity for all of us

10-07-2008, 08:23 PM	#18
Carol Project Avalon Hero Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Big Island, Hawaii Posts: 2,008	Re: For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative Sometimes when looking at some threads it appears someone is shouting fire. Or someone else sees perhaps a child playing with matches and goes into a panic thinking Fire. These posts can serve a purpose if they are used to shift into a prevention mode. If there is a fire, call the fire department. Here it is calling upon our community spiritual light brigage to focus their positive energy and intent on a specific event and/or potential to help alter the outcome. Often times, when this has been done and a new outcome did occur, the community at large may just say... well it didn't happen, so it wouldn't of happened, so what's the big deal. There was this one research article where a group of monks went into a very high crime area and began to meditate for a period of months. Throughout the entire time they were there meditating crime decreased. This was statical data gleened from various police reports. Positive intention at the group level works. Often it is the unseen spiritual influence that generates miracles. I suspect our Avalon community stepped up to the plate to join in a global prayer to shift the negative potential in a different direction. Yup... that's what I felt on the inside. __________________ Aloha, thank you, do jeh, toda, arigato, merci, grazie, salamat po, gracias, tack, sukria, danke schoen, kiitos, dank u, mahalo nui loa Images to nourish the spirit: http://mistsofavalon.invisionplus.ne...&showtopic=198

10-07-2008, 08:49 PM	#23
Orion Morris Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 416	Re: For a bunch of people who are preaching positivity.. you sure are negative I am sorry if I came across wrong... Honestly I just got my first teaching job and for the first time I am able to make a difference and see it on a daily basis. I also have to serve weekends in jail because of a d.u.i that I earned last year sometime. I worry that if things go to hell here like economic crash followed by looting and possibly martial law that I woudl be stuck in jail. I dont know how many of you have actually had your freedom taken from you physically but it will change what you appreciate. I do not want to be stuck in the clink when anything happens because I have a feeling that they will just keep all the inmates there. I put off the last two weekends because I was worried about all this talk about october 7th and then nothing happened. Then today when I got on avalon everybody was still talking about everything that "could" happen. I know that no matter how prepared we are it is going to hurt for everybody when this system that we ARE all addicted to right now collapses under our feet. I want to change the system more than anything right now... But for those of you who believe that our thoughts manifest into reality then I feel like it is pointless to point out all these horrible possabilites. I am not saying that all of them are not relevant to post... But I do believe that some people are just sifting through news and finding scary conspiritorial stories and posting them on here to self satisfy.... Then look at all the predictions and false theories that have been posted that we have wasted our thought on.... I just feel like we need to laugh and love a little more... maybe throw a party.. while we can!! Last edited by Orion Morris; 10-07-2008 at 09:05 PM.