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Old 01-01-2010, 05:29 AM   #26
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The Airport Terminal

also known as Mariner 9 #4209-75


There was only ONE image of that area from Mariner 9. They were not very good back then... here is that picture




You will notice that the 'Terminal' is a depression in the ground. To make it look like a 'Terminal' you have to invert it, or emboss it..

Like this...

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Old 01-01-2010, 05:32 AM   #27
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Should we turn this half and half? Moon AND Mars?

Who cares, its not too off topic

One of my favorites is the Mars Metronome:



http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/al...P2432R1M1.HTML

HaHa oops! You're right, sorry, those first few pictures are from Mars, my mistake, I'm in kind of a hurry here, LOL

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Old 01-01-2010, 05:44 AM   #28
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NASA sure are tricksters all right. Whether its Moon or Mars, the cover up is essentially the same.

Here's an interesting lunar anomaly, courtesy ALSJ, Apollo 16 Pan Camera frame 4623:


Note the triangular shape, and especially the shadow being cast.

Here's the same enhanced a bit:




Below I have outlined, circled in red where can you find this anomaly in the original:




Original image: http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16.site-c.jpg
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:44 AM   #29
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Here's a more refined picture of the previous ones...

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Old 01-01-2010, 05:46 AM   #30
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Nice Majorion! I haven't seen those yet! Thanks!
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:06 AM   #31
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Anomalies aren't always the only interesting stuff with regards to planets and moons. Sometimes natural phenomena (if you choose to believe in "natural") can be just as interesting.

Many people don't know about the Orange Soil, discovered by Gene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt of Apollo 17, during their EVA lunar excursion of the Tauras Littrow valley, they stumbled across this rather strange soil, near/at an area named "Shorty Crater", and there's something else, but I'll get to that a bit later.

Here's an original photograph, other than resizing for suitable forum display, I have not done anything to the image:


AS17-137-20984

Now below, when you turn up the color, reduce NASA's usual excessive brightness, turn up the contrast, and bingo, here's what you get:



Original HiRES image: http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20984HR.jpg

You see these stunning colors. Colors that most people wouldn't expect to see, especially on the Moon.

Notice in the foreground, again, that's Shorty Crater, where Mr. Hoagland discovered "datas head" in a succeeding panoramic sequence of the area, it sure puts the skeptics in a bad mood, but I like it:



Note; this is my own enhancement, from frame 21005. Its up to you believe its a head or not, but if you check most of the frames for roll 137, the head is there every time, even from different angles, it's always appears a "head". That's why its a brilliant discovery, IMO.

Here are direct links to all the high resolution frames showing this orange soil, for those interested, there are probably more, but this should do for now:

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20984HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20985HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20986HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20987HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20988HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20989HR.jpg
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-137-20990HR.jpg


More to come later...
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:17 AM   #32
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Thanks again! I really like this one you posted in the moon anomoly thread!

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=17996


This is probably the best LO anomaly ever:

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Old 01-01-2010, 06:23 AM   #33
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Have so much stuff, don't even know where to begin.

I guess my favorite lunar anomalies are to do with the many bizarre backgrounds of the Apollo frames.

IMO, these are clues to something much bigger than simple "scratches" or image "defects" or "pixelation".

Classic example:



Above is an enhanced image of course, but needless to say, the apparent 'architecture' in the background definitely shouldn't be there. All you do is turn up the gamma and contrast a bit, and you'll confirm it's there.

Original HiRES image: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...-134-20382.jpg (2.2 M)
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:31 AM   #34
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Thanks again! I really like this one you posted in the moon anomoly thread!
Thanks for your interest.

I almost forgot about that thread, should probably repost that stuff here, but I'm trying to make some order of all this.

I'm trying to make it convincing for newcomers, in the other thread the majority there were already convinced so it was more like playing around.

Lets up the notch a bit
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:37 AM   #35
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Here's another one with a very odd background. Apollo 14



Or should I say 'backdrop'? Could this actually be evidence of a hoax?

I don't know.

Original found here: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/...4-64-9193.html

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Old 01-01-2010, 06:44 AM   #36
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One of the most fascinating images I've ever seen, is no longer available on the web, I believe it was a leaked image, on the infamous "spacearchive.net".

But spacearchive, as of the last few days, no longer exists!

Thankfully, I downloaded the image only a few weeks before the archive went offline without notice.

So if anyone would like the original, please just contact me PM or whatever and I'll try to hook you up.

This is another of Hoagland's incredible discoveries, and you talk about ancient ruins, this is one of those good ones, a real shame the source is gone now:





AS17-136-20767

Credit: EnterpriseMission for the enhanced photos.
Source: http://www.enterprisemission.com/NPC-Russia2.htm
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:51 AM   #37
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From the other thread.

Enlarged crop section from classic Apollo 10 image of King Crater:


AS10-30-4356
Credit: NASA


Appears to be a towering structure of some sort.

A refinery perhaps?

Original HiRES image: http://history.nasa.gov/ap10fj/photo...10-30-4356.jpg
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:58 AM   #38
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Getting back to Mars, just for a bit...

We all know NASA tamper the color of Mars images.

Doesn't mean you won't find a real gem, that shows what the sky might really look like on a Martian sunset:



Notice the hint of blue in there, where did that come from?

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA07997
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA07997.tif (Full-Res TIFF, 14 meg)
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Old 01-01-2010, 07:02 AM   #39
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I love these pictures and I don't wish to debate about hoaxers, etc. I just like to look at nice pictures!
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Old 01-01-2010, 07:04 AM   #40
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Should probably include the newest NASA moon image, recently released.

Apparently, they're not gonna try to hide the colors of the Moon much longer:



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Whoa! It looks like Earth by a bit!
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Old 01-01-2010, 07:11 AM   #42
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Lets get back to the anomalies, shall we.



Cropped section from AS16-106-17336

A cylindrical object appears in the background, arrowed.


From the same image, what exactly is reflected in the visor, the other astronaut photographing? or something else?




Original HiRES image: http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-106-17336HR.jpg


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Here's one I've never posted on any forum, its certainly subject to interpretation, but my opinion is, after countless enhancements and really studying this image for a while, I concluded simply, this could be possibly another confirmation of the lunar ruins:

This is the original:



Heres a simple enhancement, the background suddenly shows this really weird "stuff":




Now this is one of the areas you should pay close attention to, and note that this has not been enlarged, rather this is a crop from the original full size:



Is there something really there? Are these shards or glasslike remnants from ancient inhabitants of the Moon? who knows.

Original HiRES can be found here: http://mix.msfc.nasa.gov/abstracts.php?p=1949


I'm done for today, hopefully more tomorrow or whenever...
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Looks like shrub cover or something.
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Looks like shrub cover or something.
Interesting idea, but I think you're focusing a bit much on the 'green stuff'. Could be an airbrush to conceal the anomalies for all we know. Color is not too big an indicator with images like these.

Look at the shapes, the structures, the symmetries, if at all there. That's the kind of thing you look for.

Example, this is from the same image.

Now, directly above the astronaut, you might notice something....



Here I've circled in red what I find very interesting:



I recommend you download the full size image yourself, if you haven't already. Then turn up the gamma (or, backlight gain) maximum, up the contrast a bit, and look very closely.

Thanks for the shrubs idea .You are not the first to suggest that same thing. I have other images for that stuff BTW

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I can see the symmetry as you've highlighted it. Sorry, I am just very tired from work and unable to sleep so there are things I cannot see as easily.

Good photos and keep up the good work.
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Getting back to Mars, just for a bit...

We all know NASA tamper the color of Mars images.

Doesn't mean you won't find a real gem, that shows what the sky might really look like on a Martian sunset:



Notice the hint of blue in there, where did that come from?

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA07997
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA07997.tif (Full-Res TIFF, 14 meg)
Ok I will join in the off topic showcase.
Let me know is these qualify for a real Gem

This area is near the region of Cydonia on Mars.
Download the original Satellite Image here:

The image is about 12.3 megs.

http://carlotto.us/demos/geCydoniaImages/MI48N330E.jpg

These are just a few of the many I have cleaned up.

Location Mars-
N34 deg 30

E 91 Deg



This is a crude land map below.


Mars Is indeed inhabited.



If you study this image closely you can see Saucer shaped craft at the bottom of the Land Bridge. There are 3-4 Saucer craft in what I like to call the parking area. The land bridge is really a set of steps leading up form the parking area to a gate house that is really a mechanical room for calling down the trolley cart to get to the top of the hill.
I know this may sound funny at first but anyone can download these images and zoom in to determin for themselves the truth in my statements.
I have thoroughly investigated these images.






Here are a few enlargments of this area.

These are the saucer shaped vehicles at the bottom of the Land Bridge.


The trolley or lift cart and mechanical area.



Next










A blow up of child on knees holding animal, with another animal at the Childs back. Possibly a dog is standing behind the child on knees, Possibly a cat the child is holding out in their hands. If you look carefully you can see the hind legs of the cat and it's tail.


The following images are also taken from the same satellite image about 2-3 miles in estimate from the above estate.
You can see transportation, structures, housing, and yes Humans.







Closer look at the structure.
It has a pedestal that appears the structure could rotate to adjust for sun.
or this could be a defense structure.









These objects can also be found in the satellite image.
Transportation can be seen with a arched walkway leading to the house in the background.


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Old 01-01-2010, 06:01 PM   #48
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Oh yes Philbert, the original image there is a really good find on your part, definitely qualifies a Gem.

The Cydonia region itself, there's a city under there, and some of the strange shapes you outlined in the beginning, those are possibly ruins and the geometries are quite bizarre.

Honestly, that image is very very good, but only the things you've zoomed in super close I don't interpret the same or agree. Like when you interpret saucers or people or terminals; that sorta thing.

It very well could be that what you describe is close to the concept, but take a step back, instead of zooming in on objects, I think the whole image from a birds eye view speaks for itself. There's some artificial looking stuff down there, I've seen the Cydonia IR and analyzed the raw data myself, there's no doubt in my mind, at least.

All in all, ships or not, I can see what appears to be buildings down there.

BTW, hope you find this helpful, heres a list I compiled of almost all the links you can find Mars imagery:

http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/ (HiRISE Imaging)
http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/hirise/ (HiRISE Imaging Science Experiment)
http://marsoweb.nas.nasa.gov/HiRISE/hirise_images/ (HiRISE Online Image Viewer)
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ (HiRISE Mars Reconnaisaince Orbiter)

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/targetFamily/Mars (Assorted .TIFF HiRes Images)

http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/ (Mars Global Surveyor)

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/images.html (Spirit/Opportunity)
http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/images.html (Spirit/Opportunity)
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/odyssey/gallery/images.html (Mars Odyssey)
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/gallery/images.html (Mars Global Surveyor)

http://themis.asu.edu/ (Mars Odyssey Themis)
http://marswatch.astro.cornell.edu/mars.html (Cornell Mars Image Gallery)
http://www.mentallandscape.com/C_CatalogMars.htm (Soviet Mars Images)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary...th_images.html (Mars Pathfinder Images)
http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/mpf/image-arc.html (Mars Pathfinder Directory)

http://mars.esa.int/ (ESA - Mars Express)

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/gallery.php (Phoenix Mars Gallery)
http://ida.wr.usgs.gov/ (PDS MGS/MOC Image Collection)
http://crism.jhuapl.edu/index.php (Compact Reconnaissance Imaging Spectrometer for Mars)
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ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS PIX!!!
Thanx!
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[QUOTE=Philbert;213215pixel that is going to move across the footage, come up from the moon and lands on the Command Module is not a defect in the film or hair or scratch.
Also defects in film will not constantly through 300 frames,


Philbert and Friends,

It's good that we have this dialogue and agree to disagree on certian points without any personal attacks. Actually, we're on the same page regarding moon and planetary scrutuers. Other clips you have posted are better, In my opinion.

A few things I'd like to clear up. I said "a few frames" not 300 and I used the "human hair" term only as an example of the many difficulties that arise in making (especialy celluloid) copies of motion pictures. Also, pixels never move - but specks do.

If you've ever seen at the very end of a Hollywwod flick "Color by Delux." Delux was/is essentially Twentieth Century Fox's film processing lab - full post production facillity and archives. My brother was their chief engineer for many years before he went to Lazer Pacific when Kodak bought Lazer to be tech ready for the now unfolding, global, ULTRA high def digital broadcast AND theater output. Now, due to the economy thing, he's temping with ABC, NBC or whoever beeps his phone. I saw first hand a painstaking process:

Even through the processing and editing rooms are highly temp and humidity controlled, the back side of film is like an a vinyl record - in the cleanest of rooms, movement generates a static charge that can pull clothing fibers off a tech's shirt and unless the editing or other hardware is sophisticated enough to have a back-up, self film cleaning unit, tiny little dots appear and disapper.
I'm not saying that that is what is in the first NASA clip you posted, I'm just saying "camera artifacts" are something to consider regard SOME anomalies.


#4.Evidence of a manufactured fake horizon,

I have no clue as to why they would bother using a fake horizon when simpley leaving the real one in place would be easier and give the shots more credibility. Could the film have been shot through the NASA craft window? (the round portal frame getting in the way?)

*****

Many false presentations are out also. I did watch the video link you had posted here, and as much as this is going to hurt it has to be said. Many false video of U.F.Os have been created using cgi.
Another thing is that the video you posted shows a definite phenomenon in the footage that can not be identified. But the sad thing is that it has no credibility. It is a video shot by citizen here on earth.

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"...a video shot by citizen here on earth."

Ahem... ever heard of Project Camelot? It contains videos shot by citizens here on plenet Earth. I'm afraid it's the best we can do, for now.

The Santa Monica clip has already be studied for CGI and no evidence of that was found. Unfortunatly that analytical clip was taken off U-Toob or is very hard to find, but it does exist.

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That could be a government experiment or technology that was caught on the film in your link.

Remember false flags are used here on the people to confuse.

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I agree, but ANYTHING can be a government experiment at this point.

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Trust me there is plenty to put together, just not many people can work with the film archives.

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My bro and a woman I breifly dated and who is on my facebook worked with the raw footage of the Discovery Channel, Nat. Geo. and about one quarter of the entire A-list film and TV product (in one respect or another) in the Engish speaking world (that's one reason they got five Emmy's in a row). As Kerry Kassidy can tell you, post-production is highly problem intensive until that precious "final cut" is "in the can" (for the producer and distributors) and the negetives with a master positive go to archives.


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Sorry your posted video link is just not a smoking gun to me there just is no smoke to follow.

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There is a small luminous orb that dashes benieth the main object from left to right. These have also dashed undernieth the Space Shuttle just befor or after very convincing ET caft sightings that have baffled the crew... then the video is just down by Houston, NRO, NSA or?

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Again the things you claim to have seen could be of government projects.


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Nope. I have seen BOTH. My main sighting WAS NOT government... the military intels would show up AFTER the events, stumbling over themselves, nearly crashing their unmarked choppers together. Years later I had tall blonde contact similiar as to what Miriam Delecado experienced, but I was not aboard a craft (others saw orange discs nearby... I saw flashes of light... then proceeded to have my mind blown... ultimatly for the better. I just finished a 300+ page book about it all and need to edit it down for publishing)


I need to close as I just got home after a very eventful (almost TOO eventful... threre's a party in the hills that is STILL going on!) New Years wing-ding.

Thank you for stimulating these trembling, post-temporal lobe siezure hands to work. Re; the brain thing. I WAS NOT having one at the time of my sightings or contact. To me, if that is suggested, it would be as offensive and redundant as the old "weather balloon/swamp gas/sleep paralysis" cop out.

Actually, I could use some good sleep paralysis (with the fear factor) right now.

May 2010 be a better year for us all,

Paul

PS. For those who have acess, go to my profile to see the kind of patch my uncle used to wear in the spookyland of western Nevada. I had my first off-the-consensual-radar experience there when I was about 10 years old.

PS.2. The Adams Family from Outer Space had a very difficult holiday season. The silence is DEAFENING.
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