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12-23-2009, 01:39 PM | #77 | |
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12-24-2009, 12:22 AM | #78 | |
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12-24-2009, 12:32 AM | #79 |
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100thmonkey, as I read your introduction to this thread, I completely identified with you. It's only been sixteen months since I became an ex bible thumpin Southern Baptist christian, and like you, it's had it's freedom giving aspects as well as the "my family thinks I'm nuts" side of it. What I'm saying here is not directed at those who want to blast me for my current belief/nonbelief system, so it would be nice for you to keep your belief blasting to yourself because it means nothing to me. The ones I take notice of are those who are not critical but rather intend to be helpful when responding. If I understood correctly, you were wondering if anyone else had experienced something similar to your life changing course, not to invite others to criticize you. Now that that's out of the way, let me say that I'm very glad that you shared such expressive thoughts openly here, and yes, Avalon does have many beautiful souls that are worthy of your good intentions. When I was jolted from my programming, for awhile I was angry that everything I'd been taught my entire life was a lie, and that Jesus was not coming in the clouds to save me and all those good pew warmers in my church from Armageddon. In an effort to prove that what I was learning was wrong, I went in search of other material to disprove the "new" information. It got worse, as I saw it at the time. No matter what I researched, the fact was that information has been changed, deleted, edited, altered and created throughout history for whatever reasons the ones who fiddled with it had in their plans at the time. This is how I came across Project Camelot and Avalon. I found a video with Bob Dean and Neil Freer, both discussing their beliefs in Zechariah Sitchin's work. As happens with lots of things, I kept reading and watching videos, and Sitchin's name kept coming up, so in order to not feel so ignorant about what was being discussed, I bought 2 of Sitchin's books, The End Of Days and The Lost Book Of Enki. After reading those, I had a completely different understanding of how humans were created and how the biblical stories compared to Sumerian tablets that have been discovered. I have since bought and read 9 other books by Sitchin. They are very deep at times, but to me, spell out the history of our planet in such a way that it makes perfect sense. There are those who will tell you that the Annunaki are reptilian shape shifters, and they are wrong. The ones who say that have NOT read all of Sitchin's material, and therefore have no right to state that opinion. Sitchin is not anti spiritual, in fact he's one of the most enlightened beings I've ever encountered. His work has helped me see things differently, but it does not encourage worship of the Annunaki. I would encourage you to read his work, and start with The End Of Days first (which is the easiest read) then The Lost Book Of Enki. It's kinda backwards as to the order they were written in, but to start with The Twelfth Planet may be a bit boring. I am here if you ever need to discuss your feelings and share ideas with someone who does understand. We are all here to learn and share with others, not to be critical, but to allow each being to follow their own paths and adopt whatever beliefs ring true to them. My heart sends wishes of hope to you this christmas, and I still call it that, even though it no longer has the same meaning it once held for me. Good luck to you in your search.
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12-25-2009, 03:48 AM | #80 |
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Re: Ex-Christian
Thankyou hollylindin (sorry I missed your post)
and happyhollergal. Thankyou for your stories. Yes, I was hoping to meet other ex-c's on the forum when I posted this thread, not just for a pity party or a 'support group', but at least to know that we aren't alone - and also to kind of explain to some who haven't experienced such indoctrination why there might be some strong feelings involved, that may surface in seemingly strange ways on other threads. I don't mind some debate, since that's how I got free in the first place, being fearless in my questioning, as long as we're all open minded and polite. Unfortunately cult's like the Jehovah's Witnesses and Bible Belt fundies are just those kind of closed minded groups, as my family still is too. Although aren't we all proof that people can snap out of just such a funk? happyhollergal, I have looked into Sitchin's work. I'm not so much a fan of the Nibiru stuff though I definitely believe there's truth in the Annunaki/Nephilim interference with human origins. I've noticed Sitchin has a new book also, which is supposedly a kind of summary of his other books to date, so I was thinking that might be a good place to jump in? |
12-25-2009, 04:01 AM | #81 |
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I have the new book, The Earth Chronicles Handbook. I wouldn't suggest buying it to jump in, as it's basically a dictionary with definitions of terms used throughout his other books. I was excited when I ordered it, but disappointed when it came in. Jim Marrs has some really good books out there too if you're interested. It's amazing, he's a journalist who tells the truth.
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12-25-2009, 06:59 AM | #82 |
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"Reading some beautiful spiritual wisdom on a thread here, or a site there, I have in the back of mind, “Oh, I know what a christian would say about this…” which is really the negativity of what ‘my old-self’ would’ve said…
It hinders my development, because everything is not just absorbed in it’s purest form, it has to battle past the outdated filters in my mind. Yes, it takes it’s rightful place in my mind eventually, but somehow the experience has been tainted." I know what you mean but it will get better. Resist the programming and it will fail. |
12-25-2009, 07:11 AM | #83 |
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Re: Ex-Christian
I really shouldn't make this post...but I just can't resist the temptation. Have you seen the South Park Merry F. Christmas videos on YouTube. It's really bad...but I just about died laughing! I won't provide a link. Extreme viewer discretion advised.
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