Does anyone use a pendulum to access higher knowledge?

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by uboslav

Interesting. I had also heard that astral forces or beings in other densities can manipulate this. Has anyone else heard this?

To me its obvious they can. Activities of this nature will always provide a path for them so long as the necessary karmic conditions are in place that allow them to do so. (IE: you have perhaps bought deceit on yourself by being deceitful, etc etc)

Purity, protection, love, calmness, clarity, positivity, guidance etc are the defensive tools

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[MargueriteBee]

I recommend keeping a diary of your questions so you can refer back to them accurately. I have to do that because I'm kinda forgetful nowdays.

I also get no war with Iran and no physical polar shift in my lifetime.

Hope for the best, prepare for whatever.

[Sanat]

If you are dowsing for "the future" with pendulum, rods or Hawkins muscle calibration method it is good to remember that it is no longer a question of simply yes/no. It will always be a probability. There are an infinate number of possible futures/timelines at any given moment that all has some probability to manifest ranging from 0.0001% to 99.9999%. Anything you can conceive of must have some probability to manifest (or has already manifested) at some given point in time (past or future) otherwise you could not even imagine it...

Here is the statement I use: "Event X has more than Y % probability to happen/manifest before date/time Z". Increase the Y factor until you get a negative response and you will have a "prediction".

[d3stined]

Hi

Pendulum work is amazing and can be really rewarding... a few things...
when "asking" a question, rather make a statement its much more effective, so instead of "are my keys in this room ?" state "my keys are in this room" and wait for the reply...

you can also test the accuracy of your pendulum, "my accuracy is over 50%, 60%"... etc... until you find your accuracy, you will find the more you practise the better your accuracy will be.

Also you need clean energy when using your pendulum so refrain from alcohol or drugs for about a week before using it...

lastly referring to the map of conciousness, you can only ask questions that calibrate on a level over 200, anything under relates to the ego and you will not get accurate results. ie you cant dowse for the winning lotto numbers

keep dowsing

[Sanat]

Originally Posted by d3stined

Hi

Pendulum work is amazing and can be really rewarding... a few things...
when "asking" a question, rather make a statement its much more effective, so instead of "are my keys in this room ?" state "my keys are in this room" and wait for the reply...

you can also test the accuracy of your pendulum, "my accuracy is over 50%, 60%"... etc... until you find your accuracy, you will find the more you practise the better your accuracy will be.

Also you need clean energy when using your pendulum so refrain from alcohol or drugs for about a week before using it...

lastly referring to the map of conciousness, you can only ask questions that calibrate on a level over 200, anything under relates to the ego and you will not get accurate results. ie you cant dowse for the winning lotto numbers

keep dowsing

Yea, the stronger your connection to Source the more accurate results you will get. There is a lot of good advice on how to optimize results here:

http://consciousnessproject.org/page.asp?PageID=16

Lotto numbers would be impossible no matter what because they are based on "random" future events with the same probability for each number if all is fair and squere (but I see your point of course). However, it is possible to calibrate the odds on for example soccer/football games or perhaps boxing matches before the games start. Thus you can beat the bookie! This is not "cheating" but simply the best method of determining odds because Existance takes everything into account. If the star player broke up with his girlfriend or was drunk last night etc. all is taken into account when the odds are calculated, and thus you get the most accurate odds there is! To get most accuracy you would have to calculate them as close to deadline as possible of course... Probably fun if you are keen on gambling. Find some match etc. were your odds and the bookie odds are way off and...go for it!

[uboslav]

I guess the trick is here make sure that your vibration is closer to what source is and you will get a more accurate response. So meditating prior to using the pendulum would probably be a good idea I suppose? Anything to get you inline with source.

[Connecting with Sauce]

Yes I tried with my pendulum for the lotto numbers didn't work

I also calibrated myself and it said 520ish...

I found recently with mine you can ask : Yes / no but also greater than and less than...

The last to I found recently. You have to say show me a YES. Show me a NO etc.

For me

yes is a diagonal upper left \ to lower right
No is clockwise rotate

Greater than anti clockwise rotate
Less than diagonal upper right / to lower left

Hope that helps

ps where you spiritually need to know an answer I have found it to give you alternative answers for your development shall we say. I was asking it questions about my Dad's health when he had cancer etc but I was in fear of him dying and that is 100 so there you go.

[enigmatus]

i have used the pendulum for many years. i usually use it to locate lost articles. the most astounding of which was a lost phone number, written on a tiny scrap of paper..
i usually ask the pendulum to point me in the right direction, by swinging in the direction of the item in question. i will do this from two or more different places to triangulate on the general location. in this instance, i had the location narrowed down to my dresser. now, it has three drawers, all of them full and containing many small articles. i asked the pendulum "is xx's phone number in the top drawer of my dresser?" answer - no. "is it in the middle drawer?" answer - no. "is it in the bottom drawer?" answer - yes. "is it in the right side of the drawer?" answer - no. "is it in the left side of the drawer?" answer - yes.
sure enough, i open the drawer, go to the left side, pick up a few large obstructing objects and spot the number, on a tiny folded piece of paper. i had not seen the number in a couple of years.
could i have subconsciously known where it was and unknowingly influenced the sway of the pendulum? it's possible.. but i like to think that it was acting independent of my influence and providing accurate responses to pointed queries.
just an experience i felt like sharing.

[uboslav]

Originally Posted by enigmatus

i have used the pendulum for many years. i usually use it to locate lost articles. the most astounding of which was a lost phone number, written on a tiny scrap of paper..
i usually ask the pendulum to point me in the right direction, by swinging in the direction of the item in question. i will do this from two or more different places to triangulate on the general location. in this instance, i had the location narrowed down to my dresser. now, it has three drawers, all of them full and containing many small articles. i asked the pendulum "is xx's phone number in the top drawer of my dresser?" answer - no. "is it in the middle drawer?" answer - no. "is it in the bottom drawer?" answer - yes. "is it in the right side of the drawer?" answer - no. "is it in the left side of the drawer?" answer - yes.
sure enough, i open the drawer, go to the left side, pick up a few large obstructing objects and spot the number, on a tiny folded piece of paper. i had not seen the number in a couple of years.
could i have subconsciously known where it was and unknowingly influenced the sway of the pendulum? it's possible.. but i like to think that it was acting independent of my influence and providing accurate responses to pointed queries.
just an experience i felt like sharing.

That is a very inspiring story. I have yet to use the pendulum to recover something. I guess the answer is always within ourselves! I'm gonna have to lose something so i can try this

[ori]

I use the pendulum for many years now, especially to make energy maps of lands before building and detect the earth grids and geopathy.
It is just a tool, the answer comes from our body, I wouldn't mix entities with this, or ask who is moving the pendulum.
It works exactly as muscle testing or kynesiology.
Helps us become aware of what our body detects and feels.
For more about it: www.whitemagicway.com/dowsing.html

[Kimmie]

Uboslav, It's great to see you have started this thread. I just joined the Orgonite Social Group, and have enjoyed every post on it and the info it offers....now I see you come into my life again on here!!

My husband and I both bought Pendulums about a month ago after we were introduced to using them. We bought them on our first crystal buying trip. We have really enjoyed planning what crystals we will put in the orgone pieces we are making.

Last night we went to visit a friend who works at a machine shop....and not only did we get the metals...we also found out he has an interest in making them with us and has knowledge about working with crystals and pendulums.

It amazes me how we get drawn to like minded people!!

I just glanced through the postings here, as I am rushing out the door, yet I want to come back and read each in detail.

I'm interested in how you identify who it is you are connecting with. Someone spoke about speaking to her Mom as well as Her Spirit Guides.

Thank you all for the info...I'm off to my grandsons 2yr B'-day party!!

Much Love, Kimmie



So I have to ask...how do you use the pendulum to "test" the finished pieces?

[macrostheblack]

I have just found a free copy of Candlelight by T Lobsang Rampa on the net. All you budding pendulum users will find it quite useful including me too.

Macros

[Leadman]

I found this very useful when I started.

I hope the attached file works o.k. ( bit of a muppet with computers!)

Please feel free to scan it etc, there is nothing dodgy.

[macrostheblack]

...So, to work a pendulum, we must have a
human body, an alive human body at that. You cannot tie a
pendulum to a hook and expect it to work because there would
be no source of current.
Nor would it be of much use if we could tie our pendulum
to a hook and supply it with current because the current has to
be in pulses varying according to the type of action desired.
Just as in radio we have high notes, low notes, loud notes, and
soft notes, so with a pendulum we must have the necessary
current variation to do ‘the necessary’.
Who is going to vary the current? Well, the Overself, of
course. That is the brightest citizen we have around us, you
know. After all, you who read this are just one-tenth conscious,
so, knowing yourself, just think how brilliant you would be if
you could call in the other nine-tenths of consciousness. You
can certainly enlist its aid, the aid of the sub-conscious. The
sub-conscious is brilliant; it knows everything that you have
ever known, can do everything that you could ever do, and can
remember every single incident since long before you were
born. So if you could touch your sub-conscious you would get
to know a very considerable amount of things, wouldn’t you?
You can touch your sub-conscious—with practice and with
confidence.
The sub-conscious can also contact other sub-conscious
minds. There are truthfully no limits to the powers of the sub-
conscious mind and when the sub-conscious mind is allied to
other sub-conscious minds, then indeed results may be
achieved.
We cannot just ring up a telephone number and ask to speak
to our sub-conscious because we have to look upon that Mind
as being something like a very absent-minded professor who is
constantly sorting knowledge, storing knowledge, and acquiring knowledge. He is so busy that he can’t bother with other people. If you pester him enough in the politest way, then he
may answer your summons. So first of all you have to become
familiar with your sub-conscious. You see, the whole thing is
that the sub-conscious is the greater part of you, the much
greater part of you, and I suggest that you give your sub-
conscious a name. Call him or her whatever you like so long as
it is a name agreeable to you. Supposing it is a male, then you
could (purely as an illustration) use the name ‘George’. Or if it
is the sub-conscious of a female, then you could say ‘Georg-
ina’. But the whole point is that you must have some definite
name which you link inseparably with your sub-conscious. So
when you want to get in touch with your sub-conscious
you could say for example, ‘George, George, I want your help
very much, I want you to work with me, I want you to-
(here you specify what you want), and remember, George, that
really we are all one and what you do for me you are also
doing for yourself.’ You need to repeat that slowly and care-
fully, and with very great thought. Repeat it three times.
The first time ‘George’ will probably shrug his mental
shoulders and say, ‘Oh that pestiferous fellow, bothering me
again when I’ve got so much work to do,’ and ‘he’ will turn
back to his work. Next time you repeat it he will pay more
attention because he is being bothered, but still he won’t take
any action. But if you repeat it a third time, ‘George’ or
‘Peter’ or ‘Dave’ or ‘Bill’ or whoever it is will get the idea that
you are going to keep on until you get some action, so he will
give a metaphorical sigh and help.
This is not fantasy, it’s fact. I claim to know quite a lot
about it because for more years than I care to remember I have
done just this. My own sub-conscious is not called ‘George’, by
the way, but a name which I do not reveal to anyone else just
as you should not reveal to anyone else the name of your sub-
conscious. I never laugh or joke about it because this is deadly
serious. You are only one-tenth of a person, your sub-conscious
is nine-tenths, so you have to show respect, you have to show
affection, you have to show that you can be trusted because if
you do not gain the co-operation of your sub-conscious then
you won’t do any of the things that I write about. But if you
practice what you are reading, you can do the whole lot. So
make friends with your sub-conscious. Give him or her a
name, and be sure that you keep that name very, very private
indeed.
You can talk to your sub-conscious. It is better if you talk
slowly and repeat things. Imagine that you are telephoning
someone on the other side of the world and the telephone line
is a bit poor, you have to repeat yourself, you have quite a
difficult time making yourself understood. Your listener at the
other end of the telephone line is not an idiot for having diffi-
culty in understanding your message, but general communi-
cations are bad, and if you overcome the difficulties of com-
munications you can then find that you have a very intelligent
conversationalist, one who is far more intelligent than you are!...

From Candlelight.

Macros

They are but "tools" and should not be given importance beyond that. The true power and answers are within yourselves. If you use them as a tool then they will aid you, but if you pour your personal power into them, they will lead you astray.

[macrostheblack]

Originally Posted by sleepingnomore

They are but "tools" and should not be given importance beyond that. The true power and answers are within yourselves. If you use them as a tool then they will aid you, but if you pour your personal power into them, they will lead you astray.

...Hence, trying to use it for lotteries etc will render the pendulum useless.

Glad the Rampa text has helped.

Macros

[tone3jaguar]

I have been using the pendulum very successively with, nutrient managment for horticulture, spiritual issues, and material research behind the viels.

I must caution anyone embarking with this type of work. You must have a way of keeping negative influinces from skewing your results. Earthbounds and entities have a tendency to be attracted to those who are communicating by expanding thier consciousness. So you should have a way of dealing with this before you begin.

To tell a long story shortly, when I first began with the pendulum I did not understand that I had been born with genetics nessesary for effecient communication with higher dimensions of consciousness. So when I started using the pendulum, in a very short time I was in way over my head. I even accidentally channeled a negative entity with out even realizing I was doing it. If I had not had my aunt to turn to for bailing me out I would shurely have gone mad. This all happend because I assumed that if my ententions where innocent that nothing bad could happen.

I still to this day use the pendulum often. However I can tell you that the lottery numbers are next to impossible to pin down.

[Katherine]

Hi all.....

Very interesting that this thread is still going.

A while ago I decided to use my pendulum in another way. I held it over a map of the area/province where I live and asked it to confirm (Y/N) if it was a 'safe haven'. Well, what a wake up call. It confirmed that all cities and most towns were NOT safe. In fact there were very few 'safe' areas. As I recall there was one reservation that was OK, and a few 'pockets' of safe areas throughout the mountains. Anyway..... try it and see what results you get. Happy hunting.

Love & Light
K

[lotusflower]

Someone mentioned the I ching earlier..can someone explain how this works?

[Peace2all]

This is just what I have been looking for... We have orgonite cloudbusters / towers all over our house and its amazing. What I was seeking was how to make a pendulum device? Crystals, chain or what is needed to make your own?

We are finding new ways to tune into our orgonite, finding things, attracting rain, blue skys / no chemtrails, peace energy, dreamtime, birds love it. We also used affirmations and love frequency 528 in it.

But would love advice on pendulums and also how to BLOCK any negative feedback from orgonite etc. Hubby very sensitive to it, especially in dream time. Cheers all Pep

[tone3jaguar]

You can also book dowse in a library or book store to find the info you need.

[capreycorn]

great thread,

i`m no good at using the pendulum..trying to figure out in which direction the little thing is turning makes it already turn the other way before i know what`s for real..i think it`s more for women who got the feel.

a dowsing rod is more stable for me . but haven`t done anything else with it yet than detecting water underground.

a friend of mine uses i ching with coins! and has made some nice decisions with it. i read an i ching book and found it too difficult for my taste.

dowsing for books (without a gadget) is something i do, when "time is running out"..an absolute champion at book dowsing is little guy who doesn`t even know the alphabet yet..

dowsing for me needs some kind of "limiting frame" or piggyback ...in other words...either i need a dowsing rod to get a clear indication or i dowse with the eyes a certain area like a room or a bookshelf... a gigantic shopping mall or big city like rome was the limit so far...but that was more like "following my nose"..(the bigger the area the more precisely i need to know what i`m looking for...in a library the target description "interesting","intriguing" and "pleasure to read" will do)

dowsing is something everybody can do..but finding the most suitable technique is up to the individual.

[freedom dove]

I would strongly caution anyone using a pendulum to be sure that you have researched the subject well. As someone else has mentioned, its use is very much like muscle testing. I started muscle testing in early 2006. I was quite ill at the time and unfortunately I didn't read up on it before starting. This was a really bad idea.

There are many things involving pendulums and muscle testing that you should be aware of, such as interference from discarnate entities or spirit attachments. Also, just knowing how to do it correctly will save you a lot of hassle. I went through a lot of hell because I didn't know any better.

You could learn a lot from a dummy (namely me!), so I want to link you guys to a couple threads that I've written so that you can get an idea of what pitfalls to avoid. They are a little long, but I urge you to take the time to read them carefully if you're serious about dowsing or muscle testing. The biggest piece of advice I can give you is to always know what your "yes", "no", and "no answer" signals are before starting. This is really important.

I think that muscle testing is better than using a pendulum because, as someone noted, you will get an answer quicker than if you wait around for the pendulum to start and stop. That is tedious, IMO. Also, if you're using pendulums, you must be certain that it's clean. Most pens are constructed using crystals and they can hold previous energies that you don't want. If you must dowse instead of muscle test, please do yourself a favor and clean it thoroughly by letting it sit in a container of sea salt for a few days. This will neutralize the energies that may have been picked up by the previous handlers, be they from the maker or a salesperson. You can make your own using string and a button, for that matter. This will ensure that you're not getting interference from crystals. Stones and crystals are not a bad thing per se, but they can impart a certain energy that you might not want. Personally, I trust muscle testing way more than pendulums.

Okay, this first thread I made last year at NR before Tom closed the forum. Here you can read the background story of how I started. I ask you to please go to the second thread that I'll link before you try muscle testing, though, as I learned a few more things after I made that first post. The second one is a recent thread that I made at OM, with actual instructions on how to test properly. There is much to be learned from other's mistakes. Please do your homework, and good luck!

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5594

http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/i...ay&thread=3750

[GenerationIke]

I did a long time ago. But you do have to be careful with the information you receive. I don't know if you believe in good and evil spirits. But maybe you can believe in sprites or pixies, those that like to confound you or play tricks on you and they certainly can do that through the pendulum.

Please be careful.

[macrostheblack]

Originally Posted by GenerationIke

I did a long time ago. But you do have to be careful with the information you receive. I don't know if you believe in good and evil spirits. But maybe you can believe in sprites or pixies, those that like to confound you or play tricks on you and they certainly can do that through the pendulum.

Please be careful.

GenerationIke, this is all correct and its strange as Ive just talked about the same subject in another thread about Ouija boards.

Macros