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Old 10-29-2008, 02:57 AM   #1
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Default A thought on shifting planes

Sorry if this sounds weird in the sense that I'm copying it off another board I posted it on. This is my first post on this message board and perhaps this will get better feedback here. I am aware I type a lot, thanks for your patience if you read into it.


I would say in regards to an afterlife, the idea would make me define what a life is, an after-life... before-life? If anything, this life of ours seems so limiting and experiences like Astral Projection / Out Of Body Experiences have helped me define what I accepted as my existence.

There's a good book that covers that question, its a very light book, easy to read, mostly on techniques called "Leaving the Body".

In this book (or a related article, I can't remember), this guy did a test, he astral projected into his bedroom, and blew out a candle in that room, then woke himself up. What he realized was that when he woke up, the candle was still lit.

During my own experiences, I noticed that even though I thought I was projecting out of my body, into my house, (it looked and felt that way at first).. I then realized there was some differences. I remember hearing the voices of my family talking and I was hesitant to go upstairs, thinking they might see me as a ghost and I wouldn't know how to deal with it. I went into the bathroom and noticed some differences, some things that weren't there in my physical world, like a house coat, shampoo bottles, which I then proceeded to levitate with my mind. This was out of place since this bathroom had no shower, only the upstairs one did. I won't go over the full experience and the differences, but there WERE differences.

The whole experience had a different feel that was nothing like dreaming to me. It felt so weightless, stress-free, vibrant and I'll tell you this.. I thought this experience was strange, but when I woke up, clicking back into the physical existence I thought felt even stranger. At that time, it seemed that on all aspects, the waking world is the strange one, its a heavy place, and also weighs heavy on our minds. My mind felt so confined.

The soul projecting? I'm not sure, that is what do you define as a soul? I would say it is a matrix of code, a form of energy, a lens/focusing point for something that transcends logical design and a limited vantage point. I would suspect that our soul, or consciousness is a program like everything else of dual nature, that is to say it is a frequency, it is binary.

Next I would ask myself what does it mean to project if I'm also asking myself what does it mean to be "here".

By that thought, if the astral plane was another reality/dimensional layer of our consciousness, I could understand how one could teleport around seemingly, through a network of planes, if we exist on a single point.

There is no distance, only what our mind perceives. That's my thought, and that is also why I feel there is no danger in astral projection, which is why we'll never get "stuck out of body".

I believe the "real" world is as much a dream as the astral plane could be perceived to be. It's just that this real world has such a feeling of limitation, like we're boxed in. It really makes us feel like we live in this little cube and can't conceive of an existence otherwise.

Aside from that, in this book they did a test where this guy went out of body, and looked in a box in another room and told the scientists what was in it. It can be looked at like remote viewing, that is receiving images into the pineal gland, or the BROW CHAKRA, receiving this energy.. but I believe with projection, its like remote viewing only you actually go there in a sense.

This book also talked about reports of seeing people while projecting (looked like ghosts with the silver cord I guess), and this to me implies a couple of things, like one theory I had about ghosts.

We have our normal perceptional range, which is limited by the individual. In our known EM spectrum alone, we aware that we perceive a very small fraction of that, and I would go so far as to saying the wavelengths could be infinitely large or small. I think why ghosts are perceived as translucent or fading in and out is because they are drifting into this transitional phase between realities. When I would go out of body, I saw a couple figures, energy manifestations of my own fears I assumed, but what I realized was they got more visible as I slipped out more and more, and started to disappear as I retreated back into myself. I would compare this to the ghost case.

I think to some degree we are actually projecting an energy of some sorts because of how drained a lot of people feel after doing this... I remember in one plane, I had no voice, and the more I tried to yell, the more tired I felt.. When I woke up, i was dragging my body around all day until maybe 3 in the afternoon. The same thing happened in my next experience but I was less tired. Now a-days I don't feel the drain. I still don't quite understand, but I believe energy is involved here, and it exerts itself if we let it. I think our understanding plays a strong role.

This.. silver cord, I have never seen it, neither has a friend of mine who lucid dreams/projects quite regularly..or rather..is consciously aware of it. We both agree that it seems like a limited concept, a fearful/protective influence. I still think that it could very well be another method of projection. It is believed that we have many subtle layers of consciousness, energy bodies. I have heard someone call this cord biological before, and I thought that was interesting since people in the "real world" report seeing this cord off ghostly looking projectors in their home, even though argueably..they aren't really there, (referring to differences of scenery in astral projection),.. this comes back to what I was saying about ghosts, and why I think ghosts are often unaware of our presence, let alone their own state of existence. I think being a ghost could be compared to a dream that just doesn't easily become lucid for some. That lucidity or realization is what makes us move on and realize we have the freedom to do what we want, but more then that, we have our own purposes to fulfill.

Back onto the concept of fading in and out and this silver cord, I was thinking about ectoplasm.. a sort of manifestation of spirit energy that fades in and out just like the ghosts and this is what I think of...

It is speculated that life on this planet began as a pile of goo, amino acids and proteins. I think of a puddle of goo as the building blocks, and i think of ectoplasm... if this plane of existence is a dream plane in a sense like all the rest... I picture it like this... this spirit/creation energy vibrates outwards and as it vibrates to this frequency, this reality, it enters this reality and manifests, this creative spirit energy turns into "matter".. matter of course just being a label to a state of energy.

There has been reports of physical interactions with ghosts and this is what I think of... there energy transitions over into our "reality plane".. and their energy assumes a state of matter.

So yeah, what I wanted to illustrate was, what does it really mean to live? Is there an after-life or just a difference state of consciousness? Do we just exist on a single point?

I look at the physical body as an expression of energy, a concept of the mind, something that goes beyond the brain... the brain just being a control center and interface, a representational/expression of the mind energy. People's body's reflect certain astrological characteristics, I believe all that we are is an expression of something beyond form. Its interesting how chakra energy centers are linked to the endocrine system of the body. It's interesting how I can use various sounds and beliefs to affect my body, and the world around me. When I think of the idea of everything being vibrating energy at the core level, then I don't see any true seperation.. I look to astrology, and nature, and see everything as a dance, there is no truly individual action that is exempt from the flow of nature, our thoughts are one, but it's our individual energy that filters how we think. With this all in mind, I don't find psychic powers, telepathy and telekinesis in our "physical world" to be a stretch. And to touch on the "one-mind" idea.. we could look at our conscious minds as being the steam off our subconscious. We identify so much with is conscious mind yet few of us are aware of the brilliance of our subconscious. I've been reading Dolores Cannon's "The Convoluted Universe" book trilogy, and in this book she does past life regression to people and records what they say. I find it interesting how she could find people who have little interest or experience with science fiction, and once they are in this state, the things they all say are incredible. I feel it's learning to communicate with the subconscious like this would be one definition of psychic intuition. I truly feel there is much to this one-mind, or oneness concept. The very idea that all creations are like a lens, or filter of this universal mind to view oneself from. It's like we're all cells in the same body, and we try to understand our entirety from a single cell's viewpoint, and expanding that viewpoint.

I just see everything as intelligence, flowing energy, truthful nature, and duality. I no longer define what goes on in or outside of something, I just see it all as one in the same.

I want to keep this focused on afterlife and astral projection, so I won't get into my feelings about physical expressions of energy, such as our bodies, or any forms.

I was going to try and discuss my thoughts on why we live, and the purpose of time but I'm away from home where things are peaceful and thoughts are clear! Those topics are too vast, i'd rather try and explain them well. So instead I'm just giving an observation and a case for alternate levels of existence.

Thanks for reading
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