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Old 02-08-2010, 09:28 AM   #351
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Until we are all free,
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:28 PM   #352
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In a world where you are constantly
asked to be 'committed,' it is liberating
to give yourself the license to be a dilettante.
Commit to nothing. Try everything.

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Old 02-09-2010, 02:20 AM   #353
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It is not so hard, Gnosis. Try...
Dang it! I see what you are saying now, and it was sooo simple -- I simply took my hand off the lid that I had put on myself and by transference on everyone else. We all floated up and out, effortlessly. Just let go, be me and let others be "me"s.

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Old 02-09-2010, 02:21 AM   #354
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Commit to nothing. Try everything.

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Old 02-09-2010, 09:05 AM   #355
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Dang it! I see what you are saying now, and it was sooo simple -- I simply took my hand off the lid that I had put on myself and by transference on everyone else. We all floated up and out, effortlessly. Just let go, be me and let others be "me"s.

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Old 02-09-2010, 09:36 AM   #356
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Caged Bird

A free bird leaps
on the back of the wind
and floats downstream
till the current ends
and dips his wing
in the orange sun rays
and dares to claim the sky.

But a bird that stalks
down his narrow cage
can seldom see through
his bars of rage
his wings are clipped and
his feet are tied
so he opens his throat to sing.

The caged bird sings
with a fearful trill
of things unknown
but longed for still
and his tune is heard
on the distant hill
for the caged bird
sings of freedom.

The free bird thinks of another breeze
and the trade winds soft through the sighing trees
and the fat worms waiting on a dawn-bright lawn
and he names the sky his own.

But a caged bird stands on the grave of dreams
his shadow shouts on a nightmare scream
his wings are clipped and his feet are tied
so he opens his throat to sing.

The caged bird sings
with a fearful trill
of things unknown
but longed for still
and his tune is heard
on the distant hill
for the caged bird
sings of freedom.


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Old 02-09-2010, 08:07 PM   #357
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The state can't give you freedom, and the state can't take it away. You're born with it, like your eyes, like your ears. Freedom is something you assume, then you wait for someone to try to take it away. The degree to which you resist is the degree to which you are free...

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Old 02-10-2010, 04:14 PM   #358
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I stand here on the summit of the mountain. I lift my head and I spread my arms. This, my body and spirit, this is the end of the quest. I wished to know the meaning of all things. I am the meaning. I wished to find a warrant for being. I need no warrant for being, and no word of sanction upon my being. I am the warrant and the sanction. Neither am I the means to any end others may wish to accomplish. I am not a tool for their use. I am not a servant of their needs. I am not a sacrifice on their alters.

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Old 02-11-2010, 10:35 AM   #359
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"(He) mourned mankind, and the blindness of men, who thought that the Kosmos had rules and limits that would shelter them from their own freedom. There were no shelters. There were no final purposes. Futility, and freedom, were Absolute"

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Old 02-11-2010, 02:28 PM   #360
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like freedom ... it is found within
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:29 PM   #361
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I prefer liberty with danger than peace with slavery.

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Old 02-12-2010, 04:17 PM   #362
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Just living is not enough', said the Butterfly,
'One must have sunshine, freedom, and a little flower.


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Old 02-12-2010, 08:23 PM   #363
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Old 02-14-2010, 02:47 PM   #364
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We live in a world in which people are censured, demoted, imprisoned, beheaded, simply because they have opened their mouths, flapped their lips, and vibrated some air. Yes, those vibrations can make us feel sad or stupid or alienated. Tough sh.t. That's the price of admission to the marketplace of ideas. Hateful, blasphemous, prejudiced, vulgar, rude, or ignorant remarks are the music of a free society, and the relentless patter of idiots is how we know we're in one. When all the words in our public conversation are fair, good, and true, it's time to make a run for the fence."

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Old 02-15-2010, 10:03 AM   #365
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Real freedom is freedom from the opinions of others.
Above all, freedom from your opinions about yourself.


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Old 02-16-2010, 11:16 AM   #366
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In riding horses, we borrow freedom.

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Old 02-16-2010, 09:14 PM   #367
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The most wonderful aspect of the universal scheme
is the action of free beings under divine guidance.

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Old 02-16-2010, 10:06 PM   #368
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:55 PM   #369
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There can be no real freedom
without the freedom to fail.


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Old 02-17-2010, 11:52 PM   #370
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Confucious said, "Failure is the father of success".
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:52 AM   #371
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Fear arises through identification with form, whether it be a material possession, a physical body, a social role, a self-image, a thought, or an emotion. It arises through unawareness of the formless inner dimension of consciousness or spirit, which is the essence of who you are. You are trapped in object consciousness, unaware of the dimension of inner space which alone is true freedom.

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Old 02-18-2010, 11:02 PM   #372
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To paraphrase and put a different twist on it, beings seem to be very uhappy when they do not have some possessions and some problems regarding the things they possess or wish to possess. They seem to be terrified of being nothing and having nothing but the holes between the particles that compose objects.

There are spiritual practices that restore the being's ability to have nothing but spaces, and wherein problems are conscious apparencies.

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Old 02-18-2010, 11:11 PM   #373
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Thanks for posting the Eckhart Tolle quote Oliver

We are formless before birth and after death we are once again un-manifest.
So there is no need for worry, tell that to the ego
If there was nothing to worry about the ego would invent something.

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Old 02-19-2010, 08:32 AM   #374
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Gnosis and Greybeard, thank you for your insightfull contributions.
Postings like yours keeps me engaged to this thread.

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Old 02-19-2010, 08:49 AM   #375
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