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Old 10-29-2008, 02:36 PM   #1
Malletzky
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Smile Your truth is my truth too!!!

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post my following thoughts.
But I could have posted this anywhere on this forum as reply to any thread, it would suit to any discussion.

What is it about???

As in all parts of our life, there is allways the duality. We humans have to deal with it, if we like it or not! We know of:

day-night
life-death
light-dark
rich-poor
pro channeled material-vs. channeled material
my truth-your thruth


just to mention a few of many !!!!

The same you can observe here at PC or PA forum in every thread as well.

There is allways the discussion of "you being wrong, as my (or any other) thruth is the real one"! Sure, there are a lot of realy useful and precious informations here. But let us not judge about what is useful / precious or not.

I think you'll agree with this.

Why don't we humans (are we all humans ???) just stopp with this ???
Many of you will agrree, that we're here on this planet right now (and have been here maybe in some other lives before), to learn what duality is.

To learn that your thruth should be my thruth as well !!!!!!

To learn to respect the opinion of the other !!!

To respect each other, as we should respect ourselves !!!

To finaly stopp fighting against each other, but work together to find a solluton for a better tomorrow !!!

To recognise that if I accept YOU the way you are, I have accepted ALL that is !!!

To recognise that the only way to enlightenment and ascencion is to reunite both parts of duality !!!

To LOVE Each other, as we should LOVE ourselves !!!

I should go on and on now, but to make the long story short:

Don't matter what you think to be thrue, you're right. It is thrue !!!

When you know it, you'll feel it.

And when YOU feel it, I will feel it too !!!!

And it will become MY TRUTH TOO !!!

As we're all connected, whether we like it or not.

So once again, stop wasting your so precious energy fighting here against each other.

This Forum is a way to precious to misuse it for this.

I will see you all, when we'll not be here any more

Love you all!!

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Old 10-29-2008, 02:40 PM   #2
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Thank you for that

Peace & Love to all
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Old 10-29-2008, 02:47 PM   #3
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... has to be better than the current Fascist State


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B_AZKe_Hg8Y

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mUk0HH...eature=related

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk1WkmioQvA

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjyvkR0bGQ

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u6uw7506xMw

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qUu_l7skOVE

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S27yitK32ds

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vsiADdmoh3E

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GszPwqRFb5Q

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUkxvfL_eE

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=YiqVHiJMgfM&NR=1

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Old 10-29-2008, 02:49 PM   #4
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I agree full heartedly !!!!
Thanks for the great post
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Old 10-29-2008, 02:54 PM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sebring1963 View Post
... has to be better than the current Fascist State
if the word fascist here is a kind of hint, sorry to dissapoint you...

..I'm not a german...
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Old 10-29-2008, 03:55 PM   #6
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Truly great post Malletzky!!!!!!!!!!

Come down under for a visit sometime!!! lol

You sound like you'd fit in just fine in my neck of the woods!!!

Its people like you i'd want in my GROUND CREW anyday

Seriously tho - i really do believe that we are right we we are all needed to be in this time around the life cycle - and just because i'm in Australia right now - ive seen all the reports of tsunamis and sea level risings etc etc and still i feel content to stay right where i am - NOT because i am blind but because as a HUMAN - i am ready willing and prepared to make a stand against whatever!!

I wont bow down i wont conform - but i will trust my inner conviction to stand up for what is my right as a human - no more no less.

best wishes

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Old 10-29-2008, 03:57 PM   #7
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you know I worked hard at a post just like this and got to a point and just stopped because I really have no room to talk myself

my post was going to be called:

My god can beat up your god...

The whole point of my post was just like yours but rather long winded.

I used the religion angle because that is where most of the division seems to be other than witness & evidence interpretation. Jesus Christ is such a controversial subject right now and people are discussing/arguing in many threads about it right now. Some are preaching and hijacking threads while others are being down right rude and ridiculing others who are on a different path.

I find it fascinating that despite all of our different backgrounds and religions, we still ended up here and are talking about the SAME issues and then plugging them into our paradigms. We all come from totally unique backgrounds. It is only logical to assume that we will also have unique interpretations of the material while plugging it into our own personal and uniques paradigm. How can our views be really THAT different if we all find ourselves here, drawn together by the Project Camelot interviews and other testimony.

thats an amazing thing isn't it? We are all much more similar than different. Most of the religions people bicker over are saying the same exact thing using different ideologies to define them. Some people just cant get past the differences in the religions to see how similar they all are.

I have personal experience in walking this path for decades. And have had friends who used to be on the same page I was. Years pass and so much has happened to me to put me on a different path, and when I call my friends up to try to persuade them of my new finding, I find that they too are also into the same research themselves. They came to the same conclusions as I did, from a totally different viewpoint. It is astonishing and it still makes my jaw drop sometimes.

This is remarkable and I believe it is a symptom of the nature of the path. No matter what path we cling to, we will still end up in the same place other paths lead to given enough time.

When the human spirit is driving, all paths lead to the same place. Once you reach the top of the mountain you see all the other paths that lead to it. Some paths are longer, some harder, some more dangerous, some easier, some look almost impossible, and all seem to be independent of the other. Yet they all lead to the same summit of understanding.

We walk on a path, made of paths. We find ourselves changing views and moving from one path to another as if we have outgrown the old path towards another. The new path offers us new views that replace or satisfy a desire to know the answers we seek. No one path has all the answers.

No path is evil or misguided as long as the spirit is driving the person. I see alot of people trashing Christianity, yet I wonder how many of those people were once Christian themselves. I bet we can all relate in a exponential manner if we put aside the differences and decide to talk in the same spiritual language as others if we happen to know it, instead of focusing on the differences alone.

I suspect this has alot to do with the amount of venom in the criticisms I read, as if the person is reacting to their own past and not the person their comments are aimed at. A self loathing that is transfered onto the old path that failed them. Respect for the self is needed too I think, respect for our past and the mistakes we feel we made to get to our current paradigm. Do not forget nor hold contempt for the mistakes and errors we all made to get where we are, nor punish others for making those same mistakes for that IS the path.

people are just too damn sure they have the answers or they would not be pointing out others mistakes anyway. Yet 4 years from now I guarantee we will look back on what we know with the same disdain and rejection and we will see those who follow that path we consider archaic as foolish and misguided. Unless we have risen above such things. I say rise above it now.

I am not exempted from this phenomenon and I seriously doubt anyone else here is too.

You not only have to have respect for the poeple, but for their path as well, or we will be constantly embroiled in comparison and a need for supremacy.

In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves. - Buddha


my 85 cents

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:06 PM   #8
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Heretic - a very well thought out and very well expressed post!!!!

My compliments to you.

Every thought is worth hearing and if even ONE person gains something from that then it is worthwhile!!!

Much love

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:30 PM   #9
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Heretic-thanks for posting your thoughts in such a beautifull manner.
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Old 10-29-2008, 05:09 PM   #10
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Great topic!

My truth = my truth

Your truth = your truth

There are only degrees of resonance, there is no intersection.

There is no oneness in truth. Many perspectives contribute to the expanding whole which facilitates limitless creation.

Duality consciouness is an affect of the limitations of our created language.

Another way to think about this.

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Old 10-29-2008, 10:04 PM   #11
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Quote:
Duality consciouness is an affect of the limitations of our created language.
Limitations of language and existence of Ego.
The Ego is the Yin to the 'spiritual self's' Yang.

Each "truth" you believe is only your truth...on this plane.
Any argument you might add to support your truth comes from ego alone.

While the truths we know on a soul level require no argument, because they can not be proven with solid physical evidence.

Excellent thread.
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