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01-23-2010, 08:13 AM | #1 |
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My thoughts for the day....
It seems as though people have their beliefs about what their world is about. If others do not believe the same, they fight (in one form or another). I feel that what is behind the fight is the desire or survival need to get as many people into agreeing with one's reality in order to give it substance or make their reality more solid. When many people believe the same thing, that thing becomes more solid and concrete, eventually the thing becomes a trap which magnatizes others to it and so becomes solid manifestion more quickly and more intense. The more I believe what others want me to, the less real is my own true reality that I create. It is overrun because I focus outside of myself by being in agreement with others. I choose to not accept other's beliefs. I choose to discover my own. I choose to disagree. |
01-23-2010, 08:32 AM | #2 |
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I disagree too!
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01-23-2010, 08:50 AM | #3 |
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Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
Buddha To find your own truth ..that's what your heart is all about Love from me mudra |
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Decide the way you wish to decide, accept what you see is ok to your reality, do it the way you wish to do it, form it the way you wish to create it.... Last edited by Spregovori; 01-23-2010 at 10:46 AM. |
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01-23-2010, 09:30 AM | #5 |
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i agree with you margueritebee ...
we are all different instruments ... always should we listen to the tune of our own hearts ... and in doing so ... together we can play beautiful music within the symphony of universal love ... |
01-23-2010, 09:44 AM | #6 | |
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Great powerful statement me I find it hard to disagree with the Buddha Our life is the creation of our mind - Buddha In the sky, there is no distinction of east and west; people create distinctions out of their own minds and then believe them to be true - Buddha Let's us rise up and be thankful , for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let' us all be thankful - Buddha |
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01-23-2010, 09:48 AM | #7 |
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this is ****, i disagree entirely... LOL
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he does not linger with those who
have a home or with those who stray. wanting nothing he travels alone. buddha so i agree to dissagree too we must find our own path, not one that is walked by another love m x
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01-23-2010, 01:26 PM | #9 |
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Great thought, beautiful approach.
We all know the truth, and we all have to rediscover it in our own ways. All of our greatest teachers have told us this, I disagreed, and then found the answers to be true for myself. Don't take my word for it, although my word is good in my eyes, it may not be for you. In light, of love Shaynard |
01-23-2010, 04:10 PM | #10 |
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My approach to the so called truth is that you have to explore it from all angles.
For example the chemical composition of our planet gas, liquid and solids. I don't think we should just confine ourselves to 3 dimensional solids. ie. the written word. I love to explore and challenge my reality. In your journey each one of us will find some things that will resonate unfortunately fanaticism clinging to belief as to think that everyone should believe the same thing this for me is dangerous and has cause more problems than solutions. You are the master and teacher of your own Journey and destiny. At least we can help each other in that journey and maybe we will meet somewhere along similar thoughts , emotions, values, experiences and the many facets of our lives. I have thrown my beliefs out the window many times. Now imagine 100 yrs down the road I think our ideas about truth will be very different at least I hope so. Misspelled word. Okay is spelled palabra in spanish is truth bound by one language, culture or does it adjust to the version of truth according to a particular culture. For example I often wonder if aliens believe in Jesus, Buddha, Mohamed etc. Is it universal or is it confined to planet earth ? Last edited by Frank Samuel; 01-23-2010 at 05:23 PM. |
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Dr David Hawkins said " Respect all but give devotion only to God" We dont have to re-invent the wheel, there is a path- paths to follow in our own way. We do have to show discernment in what we chose to believe Chris |
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01-23-2010, 05:09 PM | #12 |
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Well said.
When 1 or more people hold your beliefs, you've created a REALITY by consensus or con-sense-us. What I think we are all looking for is the ACTUALITY of things... what IS. This is why I think it is good people share their realities and are challenged on them, much good can be gleaned from a good argument, I think each of us holds a piece of the puzzle, we just need to dig deep to find it, and being challenged to think differently is a good start... at least... this is my 'reality' on it. And thats right. Don't beLIEf anything, we don't need to, we have the ability to KNOW. Last edited by Phtha; 01-23-2010 at 05:17 PM. |
01-23-2010, 05:36 PM | #13 |
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Let's agree to disagree then
No , wait ! We're at it again... we can't possibly agree with you Margarit...or we'll fall into the problem you describe. So we'll have to disagree with you. But that means we're agreeing, right? Oh, shoot! You're twisting my melon, man Can't I just love you, instead? Then you can think what the hell you want. It's much simpler this way! lololol. K |
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to agree or disagree ... that is this question ... i like your answer kula ... LOVE ... after discussions ... debates and discernment ... LOVE always prevails doesn't it ... agree? love to you kula ... |
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Good one Kulapops, you make me laugh!!!
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01-23-2010, 06:42 PM | #16 |
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There is something behind the obvious,
something behind the control, something behind the program, like two sides of the same coin. One side is the established: religion, work, school and war. The other is a story of a golden age coming once more. But there is something else, something more beyond it all. Beyond the visible sky of clouds, something beyond what others believe is there. |
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experiencing there own reality. It is not my job to change that merely just to inform those who choose to be informed. I was at a party last night, when someone brought up the 2012 movie . I walked up to them and briefly explained to them 2012 is nothing more than a shift in consciousness of the planet as a whole. They all seemed puzzled, because they also watched the conspiracy theory show on it and have never heard anything besides the doomsday scenario. I find it almost impossible to explain things to people since, I see the world from multiple angles and they do not. I referred them to Esoteric agenda, because it really captivates people. If they watch it they do if they don't they don't. |
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I see the point you are making, it's just that I am not as familiar with belief as I am with Faith=certainty, and I have had so many clearing sessions now that I have learned to put my faith or certainty into what I am seeing, which tends to knock out a lot of priorly held beliefs, therefore I tend to look at "believe" as a poor substitute for looking and seeing what one sees. My self-development path has me on the watchout for anything that smells or looks like or talks like or walks like -- a fixed polarity, and in the course of this discussion I think I just saw another one for my notes, thanks blessings, gnosis |
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01-23-2010, 10:39 PM | #20 | |
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My personal answer to that riddle is that the 'something else' is one consciousness at the bottom of things (see John Hagelin's explanation if you're interested http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...lin#post215328 post #636 - that is my current view) which also links everything together. That is (at the moment for me) a very neat and tidy view which ultimately explains love and ego... the feeling of connection (unity) and separation. But that is my own personal answer. Ask me in a year and it will have modified. I can't know what the truth is, can I? But we are all searching for the answer to the very paragraph you wrote. For some, they find that answer in Whistleblowers and end of days calamities...because their experience to date tells them that that is their truth. That 'something else' for them may well be the sensing of a global conspiracy outside of themselves, or aliens they have never met but heard of, or a cataclysm that they know of but people won't wake up to. All these things involve believing there is something bigger out there - and maybe my belief in love an unity is just as fallible as everyone else's pet theory. We're not supposed to 'get it', we're supposed to die trying. Perhaps that's the point of existing. Perhaps all of our truths make up the reality - and not just my version or any one else's. K Last edited by Kulapops; 01-23-2010 at 10:52 PM. Reason: added link |
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01-24-2010, 02:43 AM | #21 |
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My gut is telling me that all the spiritual stuff is simply the spiritual side
of the matrix. What I see is a flat disk within a transparent globe. The globe is the matrix. On one side of the disk is the material and all that it is, and on the other side (of the veil?) is all of everyone's spiritual beliefs that have become manifest there (the afterlife) due to thoughts/beliefs. The more we agree with each other here in matter the more it becomes real in the spiritual. Is that why everyone's truth is valid? So what is outside of the globe? Last edited by MargueriteBee; 01-24-2010 at 02:46 AM. |
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Sometimes it feels like a thread of pure light. Like small threads in the great big blue sky, one goes thru me and that energy feels like home, like everything is as it should be. Just once in awhile....
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01-24-2010, 11:54 AM | #23 | |
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01-24-2010, 02:33 PM | #24 |
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I'm happy that we can have a thread that says this. After all, if we all thought the same thing, we wouldn't progress.
It also reminds me of Voltaire: 'I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.' |
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Truth is basic but we humans have try to make it complicated to control the masses. It does not matter what type of religion it is . Where there's humans
controlling other humans by the so call word of truth there's always corruption. Many of the so call books we treasure will be works of fiction in the future. Just another opinion, no offense to anyone. Each sentient being is free to choose and do as he will with his or her life as long as you respect the freedom of others to do the same.A rainbow is beautiful because of the many different colors you perceive. Each persons journey of discovery is ultimately value by that person and interpreted by others. Thus the interpretation never does justice to the original version, you and your own discovery of your connection to this vast beautiful thing we have yet to understand. |
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