Moonraker

[orthodoxymoron]

Here is a link to Ian Flemming's 'Moonraker': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzRhJznp2V4 Ian Flemming knew a helluva lot. What did he know...and when did he know it? 'Goldfinger' is another example of his inside knowledge. He was in British Naval Intelligence...wasn't he? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Fleming Notice the secret space program, the Nazi-like agenda, the Egyptian statuary, and the Illuminati-like super-rich megalomaniac named Drax (Dracs? As in Draconians?) Hmmmmmmm!

We all want a better world...but some wish to eliminate 80% of Humanity...to create a better world. Check out the Georgia Guidestones. Look at all the religions which teach that only a select few will be 'saved'. (I grew up in one of these groups) Look at the Nazis and the Master Race ideology. Think about the DUMB's for the elites. Think about Zionism and Teutonic Zionism. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfMwK0kCccI Look at the Bible. This stupid theme occurs over and over and over again...throughout history. Star Wars and Masters of the Universe are games which are probably nearly as old as the Universe itself. This game is being planned and played...even as I type. I sort of like the idea of everyone being a member of something like Gizeh Intelligence. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ymoron+threads They'll hate me for saying that...but it's the truth. We can perfect Humanity and the Solar System...without cutting anyone out...or cutting anyone loose. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ymoron+threads I truly want everyone to make it...including the regressives and malevolents. I don't know what the hell I'm talking about...but I mean no harm. Hope springs eternal.

Will we ever learn?

Namaste

[Christo888]

It's a mess isn't it!!!!

I bet the only solution is to put everyone under quarantine until we can all get along.

Oh wait, we already are!!

OK, now what?

[orthodoxymoron]

Here are a couple of alternate endings:

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdUHt...eature=related

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFwnGiu9eV8

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by Christo888

It's a mess isn't it!!!!

I bet the only solution is to put everyone under quarantine until we can all get along.

Oh wait, we already are!!

OK, now what?

What a splendid IDEA...........you are quick

Actually, I do not want to think of all of the above. I rather think of us winning this and sending them somewhere else.......far far away

[orthodoxymoron]

"Megalomaniac" By Incubus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFnnV595byE

"Pinky and the Brain": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJPFSNu_QNs

Apple 1984 Commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhsWzJo2sN4

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania

Megalomania is defined as a psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions. It is derived from the (from the Greek word μεγαλομανία; megalo-, meaning large, and mania) The first attested use of the word "megalomania" is in 1890 as a translation of the French word "mégalomanie". The word "megalomania" does not appear in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)[2] or the ICD. Grandiosity and delusions of grandeur have similar meanings to megalomania and are used in the DSM and ICD as possible symptoms of several mental conditions. A famous quotation by Bertrand Russell gives his interpretation of megolamania: "The megalomaniac differs from the narcissist by the fact that he wishes to be powerful rather than charming, and seeks to be feared rather than loved. To this type belong many lunatics and most of the great men of history."[3] During his final years, and especially after the death of Hephaestion, Alexander the Great began to exhibit signs of megalomania and paranoia.[4] His extraordinary achievements, coupled with his own ineffable sense of destiny and the flattery of his companions, may have combined to produce this effect.[5] Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of a President is a 2004 book by psychoanalyst Justin Frank. The central premise of Frank's book is that President George W. Bush displays signs of poor mental health which makes him ill-suited to rule the U.S. Frank suggests Bush suffers from megalomania, that he is probably incapable of true compassion and shows signs of sadism, and that, as an untreated alcoholic, is in constant danger of a relapse.

[orthodoxymoron]

Are there some good aspects of Drax? He's smart, refined, musical, a long-term planner, decisive, idealistic and utopian (in a twisted sort of way), etc. Could DUMB's, Secret Space Programs, Secret Utopian Plans, etc....really be properly used in the General Public's best interest? At what point do good intentions begin to pave the road to hell? Could Drax be what Hitler might have become after World War II? Did Hitler really become a Drax-like character after WWII? What are the real underlying conflicts and issues in world and universal history?

Is James Bond 007 a good role model? He's violent and immoral...but heck...he saves the world...and does it with class!

Namaste

[orthodoxymoron]

This Moonraker thread is attempting reentry!

[Phtha]

Ians mother had a last name of St. Croix Rose or rosicrucians

[orthodoxymoron]

I noticed that too, Phtha! I don't necessarily object to secret societies...but I do object to Satanic rituals (especially those which involve human sacrifice)...and to any intrigue or plotting which involves corruption and violence. If people wish to meet secretly...and think deeply about religion, philosophy, politics, world events, future events, etc...this could even be a good thing...especially if they were genuinely concerned about everyone. Unfortunately...from what I've learned...a lot of these secret societies seem to be quite evil and diabolical...especially at the top. They shouldn't kiss Satan's @$$. No one should bow down and worship anyone. Period.

Namaste

[aroundthetable]

Thanks for this link oxy, tonights film sorted

[Phtha]

I agree ortho.
There is no doubt that during certain times it was necessary to talk about many religious and philosophical topics in secret, unless you had a strong desire to be burned at the stake. I personally have no doubt that secret societies were not all malevolent at heart. In fact it seems that the majority of these societies had good intentions... the rosicrucians especially. If anything these secret societies underestimated the power and intelligence of their adversaries, how they infiltrate in silence by befriending and gaining complete trust. Whoever this evil force is, they can turn anybody or any movement into dust the moment they drop their guard... even if just for a second.

Today though... secret societies are no longer needed and the ones that do exist seem to all be quite evil in nature, as good seems to be the ruler now, so evil has to hide, unlike a few centuries past.

[orthodoxymoron]

I have come to appreciate people like Manly Hall, Obediah Harris, and Jordan Maxwell. There is something significantly positive which occurs when people spend their lives studying a variety of religions and philosophies from both the exoteric and esoteric point of view. It's the Dealing with the Devil part that I have a problem with. You know...Satanic Rituals, Human Sacrifices, Child Abuse, Eugenics, Extermination, Corruption...and other creepy things like stuff that goes on in underground bases and locked cathedrals. What the hell is going on here? Or should I ask 'What from hell is going on here?'

Namaste

[orthodoxymoron]

Magalomaniancs Unite!!

1. Dr. Evil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQEm_hI9_cU

2. Adolph Hitler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2Nq...eature=related

3. Hitler vs Jesus (viewer discretion advised) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01USG...eature=related

Namaste

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

He was in British Naval Intelligence...wasn't he? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Fleming Notice the secret space program, the Nazi-like agenda

Moonraker was one of the best Bond films, indeed I'd bet there was some inside info in that flick. However I don't believe the NAZI stuff and "spectre" apply the same way today. Power structures always change over the decades and centuries, remember this movie was at least 30 years ago, if I'm not mistaken.

As I said in another thread, the heroes of yesterday are the villains of today, and the oppressors of yesterday are the victims today.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by Majorion

Moonraker was one of the best Bond films, indeed I'd bet there was some inside info in that flick. However I don't believe the NAZI stuff and "spectre" apply the same way today. Power structures always change over the decades and centuries, remember this movie was at least 30 years ago, if I'm not mistaken.

As I said in another thread, the heroes of yesterday are the villains of today, and the oppressors of yesterday are the victims today.

Majorion...have you watched all of Joseph Farrell's, Jim Marrs', and Richard Hoagland's interviews on Google and You Tube? Have you read 'SS Brotherhood of the Bell', 'Rise of the Fourth Reich', and 'Dark Mission'? I'm thinking that there are Zionist and Teutonic Zionist Underground Bases and Secret Space Programs. I'm a Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom supporter...but there will probably have to be massive defections from the other two groups for our side to be successful. Plus...Sirius, Orion, the Pleiades, and Alpha Draconis would probably have to go along with it as well. Regarding 'Moonraker'...the faces and names change from generation to generation...but the principles and concepts remain the same. Power seems to be God in this Universe...rather than Ethics. This is probably why the bad guys and gals seem to win more often than not. This is why I like the idea of Constructive Competition, Positive Response Ability, and Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...because once this is in place...the good guys and gals win...and the bad guys and gals get locked-up for a long, long time. I want to look up in the sky...and know that there is Law and Order.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Majorion...have you watched all of Joseph Farrell's, Jim Marrs', and Richard Hoagland's interviews on Google and You Tube? Have you read 'SS Brotherhood of the Bell', 'Rise of the Fourth Reich', and 'Dark Mission'?

Oh hell yes!

Though I'm extremely interested in the subject of NAZIs, I still strongly disagree with some of the conclusions.
And re: "Farrell", I consider myself my own "scholar".

I'm thinking that there are Zionist and Teutonic Zionist Underground Bases and Secret Space Programs.

I don't know what Teutonic means, but I agree there is a very real and mostly unknown and unpublicized threat which is Zionism. Dunno about underground bases or space programs, but they seem to enjoy harvesting organs. So I wouldn't put a top secret human experimentation program or other evil stuff past them.

Regarding 'Moonraker'...the faces and names change from generation to generation...but the principles and concepts remain the same.

Exactly.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by Majorion

Oh hell yes!

Though I'm extremely interested in the subject of NAZIs, I still strongly disagree with some of the conclusions.
And re: "Farrell", I consider myself my own "scholar".

I don't know what Teutonic means, but I agree there is a very real and mostly unknown and unpublicized threat which is Zionism. Dunno about underground bases or space programs, but they seem to enjoy harvesting organs. So I wouldn't put a top secret human experimentation program or other evil stuff past them.

Exactly.

If you haven't already watched this Farrell/Camelot interview...it's worthwhile! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wJboIFKCFU

Here's an Alex Jones / Jordan Maxwell clip on the subject of Teutonic Zionism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfMwK0kCccI

And Jim Marrs and 'Rise of the Fourth Reich'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2v0cu8pQOc

Namaste

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

If you haven't already watched this Farrell/Camelot interview...it's worthwhile! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wJboIFKCFU

It was a great interview, but I still disagree with him on a major point. See my post here to read my point of view.

Here's an Alex Jones / Jordan Maxwell clip on the subject of Teutonic Zionism: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfMwK0kCccI

I am less convinced of a 'current' nazi super power than contemporary conspiracy theorists like Maxwell are leading us to believe, although there are undoubtedly cabals that exist with a similar supremacist mindset. In other words, there is little to nothing going on today that I can blame nazi's for.

And Jim Marrs and 'Rise of the Fourth Reich'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2v0cu8pQOc

Jim Marrs is talking about the 'evolution' of the nazi mindset into today's American power structure. I think this is evidently clear with the right wing christian extremist cabal and zionist lobby groups that have by and large dominated american politics and dictated U.S foreign policy for the better part of the last 40 years.

BTW, nice avatar, kinda miss the old one though.

[orthodoxymoron]

Perhaps the Secret Societies should form Megalomaniacs Anonymous.

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

[orthodoxymoron]

Here is a music video regarding the illusion of power. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-aWR_UwZnU

[orthodoxymoron]

What is it going to take to make Responsible Freedom, Constructive Competition, and Positive Response Ablility the Modus Operandi of a Brave New Solar System? I don't have problems with the marketplace and competition...but I have huge problems with irresponsibility and violence. There are admirable qualities in the villains of 'Moonraker' and 'The Godfather' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJr92...eature=related but what is it going to take to keep things from going to hell in a big way? How do we keep our exuberance rational? Why is this so hard? What would Allen Greenspan say?

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom