Baby, Young, Mature, Old Souls ... Michael Teachings

[THE eXchanger]

BABY SOULS
6TH LEVEL: Ayatollah Khomeini

YOUNG SOULS
3RD LEVEL: John Calvin, Ivan the Terrible

4TH LEVEL: Catherine the Great of Russia,

Hector Berioz, St. Dominic, Handel, Chopin, Ronald Reagan

5TH LEVEL:

6TH LEVEL: Joan of Arc, Oliver Cromwell, King Charles I of England,
Claudius (Emperor of Rome)

7TH LEVEL: John Glenn (astronaut)


MATURE SOULS
1ST LEVEL:

2ND LEVEL:

3RD LEVEL: Mozart, Desmond Tutu, Dale Carnegie

4TH LEVEL: Mussorgsky, Wagner, Sibelius, Tchaikovsky, Verdi,
Vincent van Gogh, Ingres, Michaelangelo, Miguel de Cervantes, St. Francis of Assisi, W.B. Yeats, Rumi, Leonard Cohen, T.S. Eliot, Shelley, Dostoyevsky, Virginia Woolf, Anais Nin, Victor Hugo, Anne Rice, Barbara Kingsolver, Plato, Michel Foucoult, Bertrand Russell, Immanuel Kant

5TH LEVEL: Botticelli, Michael Jackson, King Louis XIV of France, Prokofiev, Puccini, William Shakespeare, King Charles II of England, King Richard III of England, Sam Neill, Eugene McCarthy, Ringo Starr, Joni Mitchell

6TH LEVEL: Francisco de Goya, Pope Paul VI, Pharaoh Ramases II (Ramases the Great), Joseph Merrick (“the Elephant Man”), Anwar Sadat, Dag Hammarsklod, Franklin Roosevelt

7TH LEVEL: Jacques Luis David, George Fox, Rossini, Jacques Cousteau,
Ralph Nader

OLD SOULS
1ST LEVEL: Igor Stravinsky, Robert A. Heinlein, Andrew Weil, Carlos Castaneda, Christian Slater, Tommy Lee Jones, Gene hackman, Ray Liotta

2ND LEVEL: J.S. Bach, Lorenzo de’Medici, Robert Redford, Whoopie Goldberg, Eric Clapton, Robin Williams, James Taylor

3RD LEVEL: Beethoven, Arthur C. Clarke, George Washington, Harrison Ford

4TH LEVEL: Paul Gauguin, Walt Whitman, William Blake, Mark Twain, Alice Walker, Pema Chodron

5TH LEVEL: Pope John XXIII, Leonardo da Vinci, Carl Jung, Ken Keys

6TH LEVEL: Thich Nhat Hanh, Krishnamurti, Gangaji, Ammachi,

7TH LEVEL: Buddha, Jesus, John Muir, Don Juan Matus, Ramana Maharshi, Anandamayima, Neem Karoli Baba

anyone familiar with
The Michael Teachings ???
a cycled off mid-causal entity group

lots of info on www.michaelteachings.com

[THE eXchanger]

Soul Age Levels
http://www.michaelteachings.com/soul_age_levels.htm

[THE eXchanger]

What are the "Michael Teachings"?

Be kind to each other,
for these teachings mean nothing without agape . . . . Michael

AGAPE = LOVE

http://www.itstime.com/michael.htm

[THE eXchanger]

CELEBRITY CHARTS

http://www.michaelteachings.com/celebrities.html

[THE eXchanger]

yes, that is very true ~ about parents

my brother is a 1st level OLD soul
a warrior cast artisan
(who at 45, hasn't yet embraced his artisan)

my mum is a 2nd level OLD soul
a sage cast server

where my dad, is a 3rd level OLD soul
and, a king cast scholar

So, my parents, are both
one-what i am in role, a sage
and, what i am in essence, a king

i discovered the teachings back
almost 3 decades ago

it is one of the only books,
i ever read cover to cover

http://www.messagesfrommichael.com/book.html

it can be a remarkable way to determine, what you are

troy channels chart at $10.00
at www.truthloveenergy.ning.com
(although, it takes approx 3-4 weeks to get a chart)
he does a very good job, doing them

i am a 6th level OLD soul
King Cast Sage - with priest essence twins/and, task companions (all discarnate spirits)
who work with me, as guides

[THE eXchanger]

The soul incarnates as a personality in order to focus on certain experiences, sometimes called lessons, and in order to focus on these experience a perceptual lens is chosen. Your experience is filtered through your soul age.

Generally speaking, the older the soul age you inhabit, the wider your perception of the universe and others will be, and the more possibilities arise for seeing the universe's interconnection and love. An infant soul can only see others like itself; that is its universe. An old soul has more possibility to see the universe in its infinite beauty - though of course rarely does. All is chosen, including soul age.

Soul Age is a concept that it is possible to use to separate yourself from others with. "She's an old soul", you might have heard as a child when you were talked about. This meant, supposedly, that you were wiser, smarter, more evolved, and closer to enlightenment than others.

The concept of soul age has no "better" or even "closer to enlightenment". You are, at this moment, incarnating in other soul age perceptions in other timeframes and other parallels. But your experience, Now, is within the framework of a soul age.

In the Michael Teachings concept, soul age has nothing to do with being more 'evolved'. All time is Now, therefore thinking of linear evolution is a misnomer. There is no 'better', since you are All That Is.

However, this doesn't mean the concept of the progression through the soul ages is invalid, any more than saying that psychological progression through developmental stages is invalid because no human being is worth more than another. The soul chooses to incarnate with perceptual lenses.

Infant Soul

The main lesson of the infant soul is survival. In this cycle, or sequence of lives, the soul becomes habituated to life in a human body. It is a big shift for a soul used to not being incarnate! It is vastly different than being an animal without a wide range of choices.

The infant soul will tend to live an intense life based mostly in instinct. Sex is mostly about surrendering to unknown urges, whether it be animal urges or society's instruction. An infant soul can life in society, in the wild, or in urban jungles on the street - but will tend to live instinctively.

The life lived here can be described as Simplicity. This simplicity extends outwards in all directions, including inwardly. The infant soul looks at others as "other Me's". There is puzzlement or hostility when differences occur; it is not easily fit into this perceptual framework.

While it seems that an Infant Soul's life is mostly that of fear, there is still trendous joy in simple pleasures simply from the intense presence of simplicity. Because they are survival focused, the joy that comes from simply being present in the body is not lost. They tend to be more present-moment focused than any other age except the manifested old soul.

An example of the evolution of the infant soul might be of the harnessing of individual energies into a collective whole, for survival focus, in a group. This brings lessons on interconnection to the infant soul perspective. A focus is found, energy moves through that channel. The dispersion of this energy creates a union of the individuals so participating that creates in turn chemical reactions within the body that produce hormones that free the self from the confines of the body itself. This freedom transfers again into movement that needs to find an outlet, the closest outlet being the other members of the group. Therefore energies move a second time among the members of this group and produces what results as “the group high” that is experienced by those participating in what is a mob experience.

Other soul ages participating in a mob are often reverting to the infant soul's perspective.

In terms of modern psychology, the infant soul can be linked to Maslow's survival perspective.

Baby Soul
The perception of the baby soul framework has evolved to the point that they can allow awareness of differences of others. There is "me" and "not me", and there is a lack of feeling of safety from this. Expanded awareness is not always joyful; it must be balanced, used, and incorporated, and to do this at this level requires the exploration of safety. In Maslow's hierarchy, that is where this perception resides. In other frameworks, it can be termed "rule-making", for that is a regular expression of this desire for safety.



Young Soul
The young soul's lessons are the epitome of directing outward energy. The lessons involve status, competition, and making an impact on the world. Power becomes a focus. The lessons involve forces exerted from and to you, and finding a balance, often with success as a barometer. This is the height of what is called the "ego", or rather the perception of isolation from All That Is.

While this may sound negative, it is part of the perfection that is soul evolution. Young souls , often believing that this is their "all or nothing" livetime, will tend to throw themselves into their lives and truly enjoy the physicality. They can often get more things done than other soul ages, for the external world is paramount in their perception. There are many tasks which are more suited to young souls than others.



For the last few thousand years, the planet has been in a young soul period. We are now beginning the transition into the mature soul age, in which the average soul age of those on the Earth will become mature.

Mature Soul
Moving away from the experience of separation and competition that is the stereotypical expression of the young soul. In this framework, a deeper level of exchange is possible between souls. There is more capability to receive energetically than in earlier perceptions, and this can open up a whole new can of worms, that of esteem.


Because of the opening up of the world, there is more openness to energetic sensitivities and psychic awareness, even if it is not fully conscious. The mature soul can experience others as they experience themselves. These inputs can be overwhelming at times and can take many lifetimes to balance.

The mature soul age, being the 4th in the sequence, is on the neutral, assimilation axis.



Old Soul
The old soul's lesson have to do with being. This is the last cycle normally experienced on Earth. (The next two can show up here from time to time, but never on demand.)

The perception of the old soul is about expansion beyond immediate family into the universe as a whole. It is the first cardinal soul age, which is why the shift turns to being. There is an awareness that the old soul is All That Is. There is an awareness that separation does not truly exist. There is an awareness, even in conflict, that you are the other person who riled you up so much, which can bring out laughter.

This, of course, is only possibility. Old souls can also be stuck, holding on to the perceptions of earlier soul ages, or simply exploring the immediate surroundings from an old soul perspective. The more expanded perception means a wider range of choices, and these are seen in the old soul. Some live as simply as infant souls, some may be on the board of a corporation, and some may choose lives that complement learning about being and interconnection, such as certain arts, gardening, or cultivating wine.

The expanded perception also mean that the veil between lives is lessoned. While memories of past lives are not always conscious, there is a greater sense of knowingness that can create competence in many areas, even in those not aligned with the role.

The stereotype of the old soul in the western culture is arrogant and intellectual. Intellectual centering can help with investigating believe structures about the universe and All That Is, but old souls have all centerings, as they have all overleaves. There is nothing "younger" about being emotionally centered and passionately going to extremes of excstacy and despair. This is part of the physical plane, and one of the major lessons of the physical plane is to love it as it is. The old soul will simply have more resources at its disposal in the surrender that is this love.

The old soul level brings a more reserved yet gentle love of others. Expectations are greatly diminished, and what is left is a more pure sense of playful interaction between people on many levels, not the least of which is cellular. Some of the urgency regarding receipt is gone, and with that is left more wonder and more awe at the hugeness and complexity of the entire universal concept that is Love.
Through this soul age, much of the entire “heaviness" of the physical plane can be transcended, at least for moments, as the people so involved become aware of Self in all its greatness and connectedness. Experiencing this, even for momentary periods, leads often to rapid growth due to the perceptual changes that occur during the interaction.

Transcendental Soul
The transcendental soul appears on Earth when a reunited Entity from the Astral Plane or the Causal Plane brings its energy to the physical plane through another soul. An immense amount of energy is brought to bear. These souls are rarely seen and usually provoke great societal changes through their energy, awareness, and perspective. They can be known in history, such as Gandhi or Mohammed, or not.



Infinite Soul
The infinite soul is a manifestation of the Tao brought to the physical plane. They do not perceive separation, and bring the full teachings of the Tao through their being and energy. The amount of energy involved in the manifestation can be compared to an impending supernova. Jesus, Buddha, and Lao Tsu were manifestations of the infinite soul.


http://www.polarisrising.com/soul-ag...teachings.html

[THE eXchanger]

monads we play out:

*Classic External (relationship) Monads

Teacher/Student;

Parent/Child;

Imprinter/Imprinted; Siblings (brother/brother, brother/sister, sister/sister);

Husband/Wife;

Leader/Follower;

Attacker/Victim;

Healer/Healed;

Rescuer/Rescued;

Integrator/Eccentric;

Hopelessly Loving/Hopelessly Loved;

Passionate/Repressed;

Dependent/Independent;

Pivotal Facilitator/Facilitated;

Slovenly/Meticulous;

Passive/Aggressive;

Adept/Apprentice;

Artist/Patron;

Deserter/Abandoned;

Profligate/Tempered;

Innocent/Sophisticate;

Promiscuous/Impotent;

Master/Slave;

Player/Pawn;

Defender/Defended;

Hidden/Disclosed;

Slander/Slandered;

Jailer/Prisoner;

Tandem Monad;

Love Monad

per Troy, www.truthloveenergy.ning.com

MaMaS~KitSi-Nu~Susan says:

Then, the heart_link monad

At that point,
the two souls, play out the heart Link,
and, they will do so,
knowing, full well,
that they have lived through,
each/and, every monad above,
playing out, both sides, of the equations,
and, they will have done,
everyone of them,
each to the other
as, it is necessary,
to play out,
each and every side, of all monads,
in order, to create,
an equation,
that, can hold the balance
that, can hold the substance
that is necessary
that is required
to embark, on a heart_link.

each and, every 30 monads
(that are mentioned above)
you will excute/you will play out
all 30 Classic External (relationship) Monads
prior to the entering of The Pivot of a Heart_Link

You will have done;
everything,
each to each other
absolutely; everyone of them;
you will have played out,
both sides of the equations
to achieve, the status,
that is necessary to enter into
a heart_link monad,
for it is,
the 'grand' accumulation,
of all, that has existed,
between time, and, between space,
between 2, or more souls,
that interact, in each of the monads,

The heart_link,
it is seen,
as, the "grand finale", so-to-speak.

it is, where the 'sum total'
of all the exchanges
of all the lessons,
that were learned,
come full circle, into a balanced round,
so, the eXchange of two souls,
can successfully work towards,
the completion of a 'heart_link',
this is a monad,
that is entered into,
pre-natally, and/or,
it can be entered into,
with NO pre-natal agreement,
at the 'old soul' level...

the choice to enter into one,
brings the totality of all that was,
into the pivot of the now,
of all, that is,
balanced, and, completed between two fragments(souls)
and, brings it all back together again
to eXchange
one, to the other
with a balance of
true force, and, true power
where both fragments (souls)
enter into it,
on equal footing,
it is the singular,
most forceful,
and, most powerful monads
that two souls,
will ever play out together
it is where,
fullness, and, richness
come to meet,
richness, and, fullness
and, truly much comes to gather more

Susan / Michael Entity

[Humble Janitor]

Very fascinating subject. I'd love to find out what my soul is.

[Gnosis5]

Oh, Okay, if I understand correctly then the term "monads" is equivalent to what I call fixed polarities or dualities, and in my system, Clearing unfixes them so that one can have full freedom of expression between both opposing ends. I have spent a good year doing that.

best,
gnosis

Originally Posted by eXchanger

monads we play out:

*Classic External (relationship) Monads

Teacher/Student;

Parent/Child;

Imprinter/Imprinted; Siblings (brother/brother, brother/sister, sister/sister);

Husband/Wife;

Leader/Follower;

Attacker/Victim;

Healer/Healed;

Rescuer/Rescued;

Integrator/Eccentric;

Hopelessly Loving/Hopelessly Loved;

Passionate/Repressed;

Dependent/Independent;

Pivotal Facilitator/Facilitated;

Slovenly/Meticulous;

Passive/Aggressive;

Adept/Apprentice;

Artist/Patron;

Deserter/Abandoned;

Profligate/Tempered;

Innocent/Sophisticate;

Promiscuous/Impotent;

Master/Slave;

Player/Pawn;

Defender/Defended;

Hidden/Disclosed;

Slander/Slandered;

Jailer/Prisoner;

Tandem Monad;

Love Monad

per Troy, www.truthloveenergy.ning.com

MaMaS~KitSi-Nu~Susan says:

Then, the heart_link monad

At that point,
the two souls, play out the heart Link,
and, they will do so,
knowing, full well,
that they have lived through,
each/and, every monad above,
playing out, both sides, of the equations,
and, they will have done,
everyone of them,
each to the other
as, it is necessary,
to play out,
each and every side, of all monads,
in order, to create,
an equation,
that, can hold the balance
that, can hold the substance
that is necessary
that is required
to embark, on a heart_link.

each and, every 30 monads
(that are mentioned above)
you will excute/you will play out
all 30 Classic External (relationship) Monads
prior to the entering of The Pivot of a Heart_Link

You will have done;
everything,
each to each other
absolutely; everyone of them;
you will have played out,
both sides of the equations
to achieve, the status,
that is necessary to enter into
a heart_link monad,
for it is,
the 'grand' accumulation,
of all, that has existed,
between time, and, between space,
between 2, or more souls,
that interact, in each of the monads,

The heart_link,
it is seen,
as, the "grand finale", so-to-speak.

it is, where the 'sum total'
of all the exchanges
of all the lessons,
that were learned,
come full circle, into a balanced round,
so, the eXchange of two souls,
can successfully work towards,
the completion of a 'heart_link',
this is a monad,
that is entered into,
pre-natally, and/or,
it can be entered into,
with NO pre-natal agreement,
at the 'old soul' level...

the choice to enter into one,
brings the totality of all that was,
into the pivot of the now,
of all, that is,
balanced, and, completed between two fragments(souls)
and, brings it all back together again
to eXchange
one, to the other
with a balance of
true force, and, true power
where both fragments (souls)
enter into it,
on equal footing,
it is the singular,
most forceful,
and, most powerful monads
that two souls,
will ever play out together
it is where,
fullness, and, richness
come to meet,
richness, and, fullness
and, truly much comes to gather more

Susan / Michael Entity

[THE eXchanger]

yes, that would be called 'shovelling the 5th level' stuff !!!

(it isn't necessary to copy-postings-i am sure, people can read up
and, through to find stuff ) ???

but, yes, those are the 30 standard monads/there are a few others too

love/susan

(who will attempt to condense the stuff on iS/and, TM - although it does bring about
much debate, in the minds of many)

maybe, if we can keep michael /and soul stuff here

and, maybe, if we can keep earth history/and, cycles-on that other thread

it will help many of us

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

yes, that would be called 'shovelling the 5th level' stuff !!!

([snipped]

Yup, that's pretty right on, and I had no prior knowledge of Michael Teachings before I started my work, and neither did another Old Soul I am working with on the same material. It's so nice to now why I am not normal (giggle).

love,
gnosis

[THE eXchanger]

somewhere on this thread, is new info on "m"-gnosis5

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

What are the "Michael Teachings"?

Be kind to each other,
for these teachings mean nothing without agape . . . . Michael

AGAPE = LOVE

http://www.itstime.com/michael.htm

Today, after a particularly unusual session I started to take a look at and feel what it is like to love without attachment or desire. It was a new freedom. I can't say it is stable, but at least a peek of what's ahead.

Gnosis

[dolphin]

hi exchanger, i read the michael teachings/books many years ago. the book even talks about soul age of nations. usa is considered to have the most young souls. switzeraland has the most old souls. makes sense. young souls are about materializing material "things", aquiring wealth, new technology etc. mature souls like the finer things like wines/the making of, gourmet foods... and old souls don't fuss too much, they tend to not be too ambitious w careers as they've gone through all that many previous lives. they tend to be ones taking care of gardens.

it's amazing how even the kind of pets one has reflects your soul age! what's also interesting is that your parents can be younger in soul age than you (their offspring). so when there is a large gap between partners, this may reflect chronological age but not soul age.

it's all very interesting to think about. they say though that one tends to hang out w their own soul group age.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by dolphin

hi exchanger, i read the michael teachings/books many years ago. the book even talks about soul age of nations. usa is considered to have the most young souls. switzeraland has the most old souls. makes sense. young souls are about materializing material "things", aquiring wealth, new technology etc. mature souls like the finer things like wines/the making of, gourmet foods... and old souls don't fuss too much, they tend to not be too ambitious w careers as they've gone through all that many previous lives. they tend to be ones taking care of gardens.

it's amazing how even the kind of pets one has reflects your soul age! what's also interesting is that your parents can be younger in soul age than you (their offspring). so when there is a large gap between partners, this may reflect chronological age but not soul age.

it's all very interesting to think about. they say though that one tends to hang out w their own soul group age.

Switzerland sounds marvelous! Any other "old soul" countries or locales? I live in Toronto, Canada and I don't think it is "old soul", except perhaps for the "cottage country" crowd, lol.

[THE eXchanger]

every chart i checked in my family/and extended family born in canada
all of them, were old souls (WHICH surprised me)

[TheObserver]

I'm sorry but i am a little uncomfortable with soul rankings, it may lead to a caste system.
Remember it's said that Jesus hung out with the so called low life drunks and prostitutes
to relax after arguing all day with the self-righteous priests at the temple!

[THE eXchanger]

jesus was a 7th level old soul - til he ascended

ironically; there are NO short cuts

[THE eXchanger]

and, also - no soul age/is better than any other soul age

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

jesus was a 7th level old soul - til he ascended

ironically; there are NO short cuts

When it is said he ascended, did he ascend from the Messianic Plane to the Buddhic Plane?

Gnosis

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by TheObserver

I'm sorry but i am a little uncomfortable with soul rankings, it may lead to a caste system.
Remember it's said that Jesus hung out with the so called low life drunks and prostitutes
to relax after arguing all day with the self-righteous priests at the temple!

I concur, it can be a play for status and feed one's ego and personally I have to be cautious about that. In another sense, though it is a relief to "know thyself" instead of futilely trying to fit in with, say, a nation of young souls when one is an old soul. As an old soul I was constantly wondering how these young souls could do what they are doing and not have their consciences hurt like heck because I know mine would, lol.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by TheObserver

it's said that Jesus hung out with the so called low life drunks and prostitutes
to relax after arguing all day with the self-righteous priests at the temple!

it's said-is often proven, to be a lie

or, the words of a parott / or repeater

[THE eXchanger]

a lot of 5th level old souls - commit suicide
and, 6th level old souls - go insane

[Gnosis5]

Yes this old soul went insane and came back -- at least twice this lifetiime :-)

Part of my clearing work was seeing the mechanism I installed way back pre-history and how initially it served me. There is nothing bad about being able to causatively mock up insanity or depression, etc., just "bad" when one puts it on subconscious automaticity, in other words a neurotic or psychotic compulsion.

Now I can be causatively insane and Hubby knows it and he better step to it and haul some water and chop some wood!!!!

Reminds me of the Old Testament story of when David got into a situation where he realized that the only way to come out alive was to fall off his horse and start convulsing and frothing at the mouth. It turns out the people in that region thought someone who did that was "holy". Now can you see how being insanse might be a sane thing to do at times?

The best thing, imho, that an Old Soul or perhaps any age soul, can do for themselves is Clearing work that unfixates them from their polarities, and from what I'm seeing we all have piles of automatic polarities that really restrict our freedom of choice and freedom of choice of expression and limit our goals.

My hubby is an example of an Old Soul who has not done much Clearing work this lifetime and has piles of neurosis embedded in him so that he can hardly enjoy life. Me, a "Cleared" Old Soul just stands there watching him with emotions of incredible boredom, pity. Old Souls can die in their own psychic stink if they get lax on clearing themselves. On the bright side he is making plans to reach the initial "Clear" state once his new business is further established.

The ironic thing is that Hubby is such a "magical" being and with so much suppressed ability that once he does hit the "All Clear" button he will most likely be a being of at least and most likely greater magnitude than myself. Then I will have to scurry to match him.

[Jacqui D]

Thank you Exchanger i will look on and await your speculation on this matter.
I would like to add here i do not feel this is the case of identifying who is higher than who.
We are all here or where ever, on planet or off, we all learn as exchanger says there is no skipping these densities, some have however but they do not learn.
They will not sustain that level because they have jumped through and not learnt the lessons at hand.
those who jump are mainly those who by ritual think they can and in deed feel they have the knowledge to do this, but then find themselves dis connected so to say because they can not resonate with the others on that level,the group consciousness.
I look at it this way, the older the soul the more knowledge and experience can be given to those who are beginning.
The story of Jesus dwelling among those some who feel lower than him just says exactly what i have explained and that is, it does not matter what soul level you are but the higher level teachings can give comfort and love to all. Jesus was a great teacher of this he regarded himself on the same level but he gave his knowledge and love to all.