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ahhhhh, niice find bro, thanks! much as i dislike 'harming' Selene, if their gonna do it.. i hope its gonna be sweet to see!! lol Last edited by Orion11; 06-19-2009 at 10:07 AM. |
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Hi Dantheman62,
You just answered a quetion in my mind about the discrepancies of the date I said the moon bombing project would be launched and when it was actually launched. NASA had to wait in line. Also your findings bring in to question the validity of the NASA mission if allies have already done the very same thing, even if their end game was different. Just as the Cosmonauts use the International Space Station, could NASA have used the other crash landings to find out if ice particles exist or not. After all, the US is strapped for cash at the moment and the money spent could be used for other more urgent things (like paying off my credit card! ) It could well be that NASA is sending the object to the moon to show the others that it is capable of 'bombing' long range also, a sort of space wars if you like and for the public eye it is merely looking for ice particles. Could it be that there are some sort of precious material on the moon and everybody is racing to find out if it really exists to claim the moon as sovereign territory? The US is wanting to place a permanent base on the moon by 2200. Why? Other space stations can be used as 'stepping stones' to go further afield, like to Mars for example. Your post asks more questions than why is NASA the last in line, the question needs to be asked as why is everybody doing it? Best regards, Steve Quote:
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The second mission, the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite (LCROSS), aims to answer whether there is water on the Moon - either in the form of ice or hydrated minerals. It consists of two elements: a shepherding spacecraft and a Centaur upper stage rocket.
After being guided to a permanently shadowed crater at the Moon's south pole by its shepherding spacecraft, the Centaur rocket separates. LCROSS will crash a rocket into the lunar surface Hitting the Moon at more than 9,000 km/h (5,600 mph), the 2,200kg Centaur will kick up a huge plume of debris which could rise to 50km (30 miles). It is expected to excavate some 350 metric tonnes of lunar material. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8107197.stm |
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Alfred Lambremont Webre The planned October 9, 2009 bombing of the moon by a NASA orbiter that will bomb the moon with a 2-ton kinetic weapon to create a 5 mile wide deep crater as an alleged water-seeking and lunar colonization experiment, is contrary to space law prohibiting environmental modification of celestial bodies. The NASA moon bombing, a component of the LCROSS mission, may also trigger conflict with known extraterrestrial civilizations on the moon as reported on the moon in witnessed statements by U.S. astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong, and in witnessed statements to NSA (National Security Agency) photos and documents regarding an extraterrestrial base on the dark side of the moon. If the true intent of the LCROSS mission moon bombing is a hostile act by NASA against known extraterrestrial civilizations and settlements on the moon, then NASA and by extension the U.S. government are guilty of aggressive war which is the most serious of war crimes under the U.N. Charter and the Geneva Conventions, to which the U.S. is subject. The U.N. Outer Space Treaty, which the U.S. has ratified, requires that “ The moon and other celestial bodies shall be used by all States Parties to the Treaty exclusively for peaceful purposes. The establishment of military bases, installations and fortifications, the testing of any type of weapons and the conduct of military manoeuvres on celestial bodies shall be forbidden.” 98 nations have ratified and 125 nations have signed the U.N. Outer Space Treaty. end of quote viking |
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As if it was not enough that they mess up the earth...
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Hi iain140285,
Personally I think NASA is looking for a lot more than water on the Moon. There are minerals that we don't have here on Earth which could be deemed as 'precious' and I think that big corporations are seeing how these things can be exploited, not to mention the huge amount of cheese! Best regards, Steve Quote:
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So if I have the maths right the kinetic energy is therefore 6.87 x 10^9 J
Gonna make a big bang! A.. |
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http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seatt...-civilizations NASA moon bombing violates space law & may cause conflict with lunar ET/UFO civilizations. U.S. astronauts, NASA employees, Soviet scientists, NSA confirm the extraterrestrial presence on the moon There are confirmed reports of an extraterrestrial presence on the moon, both from U.S. astronauts who have visited the moon, from NASA employees, from Soviet scientists and observers of the NASA moon visits, and from witnessed NSA (National Security Agency) reports on a moon based on the far side of the moon. One report states that, “In a 2006 television documentary, ‘Apollo 11: The Untold Story,’ Buzz Aldrin admitted for the first time publicly that the astronauts saw UFOs on their trip to the Moon, but they were not allowed to discuss this information on the live audio feed to NASA. He stated that he felt it would have caused a ‘panic.’” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6QNz...layer_embedded Last edited by micjer; 06-23-2009 at 01:28 AM. |
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Maybe they're trying to break through that hard crust.
The Meteorite Craters Are All Too Shallow Scientists tell us that the craters on the surface of the moon were caused by the impact of meteors or comets. There are also meteorite craters on earth. According to scientific calculations, if a meteorite of several miles in diameter hits the earth or the moon at a speed of 30,000 miles per second, which is equivalent to one million tons of dynamite, the depth of the crater it creates should be four to five times that of its diameter. The meteorite craters on earth prove this to be correct. Yet the craters on the moon are strangely shallow. For example, Gagrin Crater, the deepest one, is only four miles deep, although its diameter is 186 miles. With a diameter of 186 miles, the depth of the crater should be at least 700 miles, instead of 4 miles, which is just 12% of the diameter. This is another scientific impossibility. Why is it so? Astronomers are unable to come up with a perfect explanation and they don't seem to want to either. They know that a perfect explanation would overturn established theories. The only explanation is that the moon's crust is composed of a very hard substance four miles beneath the surface. The meteorites have failed to penetrate this hard layer. Then, what is the very hard substance? |
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India Moon probe 'malfunctions'
India's first mission to the Moon has experienced a technical problem, India's space research officials say. A sensor of the unmanned Chandrayaan-1 spacecraft has "malfunctioned" and steps have been taken to ensure it is able to continue its work, they say. But the possibility remains that the mission may have to be cut short. Chandrayaan-1 was launched last October and is regarded as a major step for India as it seeks to keep pace with other space-faring nations in Asia. Scientists belonging to the Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) said that the "vital star sensor" of the spacecraft had "malfunctioned". "The mission is safe, but its lifespan may be affected," Isro spokesman S Satish told the BBC. For the moment the spacecraft has been placed on a higher orbit, but officials say this could affect the quality of the photographs being sent back. The unmanned Chandrayaan-1 spacecraft was launched into space from southern Andhra Pradesh state. CHANDRAYAAN 1 1 - Chandrayaan Energetic Neutral Analyzer (CENA) 2 - Moon Impact Probe (MIP) 3 - Radiation Dose Monitor (RADOM) 4 - Terrain Mapping Camera (TMC) 5 - Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3) 6 - Chandrayaan 1 X-ray Spectrometer (C1XS) 7 - Solar Panel India sets its sights on the Moon In Pictures: India Moon mission The spacecraft is on a two-year mission of exploration. The robotic probe will orbit the Moon, compiling a 3-D atlas of the lunar surface and mapping the distribution of elements and minerals. "We have already got useful information from the pictures beamed," said an Isro official. But he said the "quality of the pictures" had been affected because of the malfunction. Powered by a single solar panel generating about 700 watts, the Isro probe carries five Indian-built instruments and six constructed in other countries, including the US, Britain and Germany. The mission is expected to cost 3.8bn rupees (£45m; $78m), considerably less than Japanese and Chinese probes sent to the Moon last year. But the Indian government's space efforts have not been welcomed by all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8155120.stm |
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575012,00.html
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Now Google's promoting the water. It's a bit mysterious. Oh well. ____________________________________ Nasa's lunar crash landing fails to raise moon dust The Guardian, Saturday 10 October 2009 Nasa scientists had anticipated that the impact would throw up a six-mile-high cloud of lunar dust and rock which could be scanned for evidence of frozen water. But after the collision at 12.31pm today, no sign of the plume was spotted, even from the second stage, which crashed nearby four minutes later. The Nuclear Attack on the Moon and Its Aftermatch – Lion! The $98 million ‘ nuclear bombing raid’ on the moon was supposed to create a six-mile high cloud of dust that would be visible from small telescopes on the Earth. Last edited by no caste; 11-14-2009 at 08:27 AM. |
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There was a little dust plume.
2009 October 10 LCROSS Centaur Impact Flash Credit: NASA, LCROSS Mission Team Explanation: This mid-infrared image was taken in the last minutes of the LCROSS flight mission to the Moon. The small white spot (enlarged in the insets) seen within the dark shadow of lunar crater walls is the initial flash created by the impact of a spent Centaur upper stage rocket. Traveling at 1.5 miles per second, the Centaur rocket hit the lunar surface yesterday at 11:31 UT, followed a few minutes later by the shepherding LCROSS spacecraft. Earthbound observatories have reported capturing both impacts. But before crashing into the lunar surface itself, the LCROSS spacecraft's instrumentation successfully recorded close-up the details of the rocket stage impact, the resulting crater, and debris cloud. In the coming weeks, data from the challenging mission will be used to search for signs of water in the lunar material blasted from the surface. |
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Makes no sense to me at all! Didn't somebody already confirm ice? If not then that means that all of those countries that have crashed something into the moon, none of them did any tests for ice, but they tested for everything else! Atmosphere, soil composition, mapping the surface, and gravity tests, but not water? LOL
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I'm glad it's not only me. It makes me feel better.
I still can't figure earth out. Last edited by no caste; 11-14-2009 at 10:02 AM. |
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2009 November 18
Water Discovered in Moon Shadow Credit: LCROSS, NASA Explanation: Why is there water on the Moon? Last month, the LCROSS mission crashed a large impactor into a permanently shadowed crater near the Moon's South Pole. A plume of dust rose that was visible to the satellite, although hard to discern from Earth. The plume is shown above in visible light. Last week, the results of a preliminary chemical analysis gave a clear indication that the dust plume contained water. Such water is of importance not only for understanding the history of the Moon, but as a possible reservoir for future astronauts trying to live on the Moon for long periods. The source of the lunar water is now a topic of debate. Possible origins include many small meteorites, a comet, or primordial moon soil. |
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