Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere

Lorien · 03-21-2009, 01:57 AM

Hypothetical Situation:

Police Forces are Federalized
Supply of Food and Necessities Cut Off
All Monetary Institutions Closed
Loss of Power, Heat, etc.
Armed Soldiers Rounding up "Non Enemy Combatants" and Protesters

And the list goes on....

And so I was thinking...

What will I do if **** does hit the fan sometime soon?
Will I give in?
Will I fight?
What will others do?
What will you do?
What if people like us are detained because we know and seek the truth?
Have any of us really thought about this?
Should we have a common destination to fall back to?
A place to gather kindred spirits and plan a rebellion against the elite?
A place to wait out the storm?

Please, lend me your thoughts.

777 The Great Work · 03-21-2009, 02:05 AM

Great question, i try to keep in mind the phrase,not my will but your will. Under no circumstance, am i takeing the mark. So i'm constantly preparing to enter the portal if thats the creator's will.

waitinginthewings · 03-21-2009, 03:42 AM

Lorien: I too have thought about this quite a bit......& I like the idea of a gathering place for us of like mind to get to, & decide what to do next. I think fighting THPB would be a waste of our energy. So for me I would be conserving my energy for survival & staying sane during the difficult phase. I truly believe that there time now is short, so its a matter of holding our ground, our energy & waiting patiently until we "know" what the next move is.

Dantheman62 · 03-21-2009, 06:05 AM

My simplistic way of looking at it is to just be prepared and try and stay one step ahead!

Police Forces are Federalized= I don't worry about police because I'm not doing anything wrong!

Supply of Food and Necessities Cut Off= That's what growing a garden is all about and getting a water filter!

All Monetary Institutions Closed= I don't have any money anyway, LOL, and that's what the barter system is all about!

Loss of Power, Heat, etc.= Doesn't really matter now because summer's coming up and you don't need it, and you'll have all summer to prepare for winter!

Armed Soldiers Rounding up "Non Enemy Combatants" and Protesters= So don't be a non enemy combatant, and don't protest, just go with the flow!

What will I do if **** does hit the fan sometime soon? = That's where being prepared comes in, I myself am going to my aunts in southern Illinois and meeting up with my brother and sisters. My aunt knows everybody in her town from the judge, to the doctors, to the grocery store owners and managers, to all the liquor distributors, and plus she always has a big garden and lives on a lake!

Will I give in?= No, there's plenty of places to hide because it's a big country!

Will I fight? = Depends, if myself or family's mortality is at stake, yes!

What will others do? = Doesn't matter!

What will I do?= Explained above!

I somewhat disagree with this idea that you need to be in a group to survive.
One of the reasons of this forum is to learn how to survive and I think you need to learn how to survive as if you were on your own, because you might be. If you don't know how to fish and hunt and grow food yet, you better learn and there's plenty of info here and in the Avalon Library.

I'm lucky because that's all second hand for me because I grew up fishing and hunting and camping and all that good stuff, so surviving is going to be the easy part for me. The hard part is just to have to possibly go back to the stone age ways of living, which actually won't be that hard if you're prepared.

And that's my two cents worth! LOL!

giovonni · 03-21-2009, 06:48 AM

Thats a good attitude Dan!

Most of us have been preparing and adjusting too these possibilities for a while now?
The keys words~ I suggest too survival are to stay focused in your (meditative)
manifestations of what you (envision) and would like your future to be> be flexible
and try to maintain a purposeful calmness within yourself

The future is going to be ~kind of~ like this

Dantheman62 · 03-21-2009, 06:54 AM

True gio!, I've always said that life is a carnival, you just have to pick the best ride!

Machinamentum · 03-21-2009, 07:05 AM

Man made Super Ebola.

Machinamentum · 03-21-2009, 07:18 AM

Yep I've been pondering this thought for all my life it seems.

It's kind of sad, growing up, I never had a glimpse of hope for the future until Camelot.

But still when I look out my window at times, I cant help but imagine mushroom crowds over NORAD or a virus plagued world and I'm left to wander a mutated planet side. Kind of a fallout situation. Can't help it.

vipassana · 03-21-2009, 10:00 AM

Sometimes I wonder what will happen to me and my two teenage children when/if things get rough. I'm alone because my family think I'm weird so they avoid me. Despite trying I've never been able to meet any like minded people so I only have acquaintences. I have a water filter, a growing food store and a vegetable garden and an attitude that whatever happens I'll have to stay calm and deal with it. Scary? yes Lonely? yes. Most of the time I just live in the day and keep trying to make a true friend/s. Internet is OK but I'd like to meet people off line.

Swanny · 03-21-2009, 10:22 AM

When people are heading to the food shops I'll be off to buy ply wood to board up my windows

Lorien · 03-21-2009, 01:21 PM

Thanks for the replies so far everyone.

I understand the need to prepare, and I am doing as much as possible. I do meditate and try to maintain a positive outlook on life as much as is possible these days.

However, I'm sure there are others in situations such as mine. I don't have a lot of money to stock up on food supplies, or anything to barter with. I don't have land that I can garden on or any natural water sources near by. I have bills and debt(due to medical issues) that require me to work my ass off.

What happens if we do end up in a situation like Machinamentum said where half of our country is an abandoned wasteland do to nuclear attack or cataclysmic weather or something of the sort? Where do we go?

I'm not being paranoid or freaking out about it, i'm actually quite calm. Just trying to get a feel for reactions to various scenarios.

Thanks again!

AscendingStarseed · 10-30-2009, 11:47 AM

[QUOTE=Lorien;121991]Thanks for the replies so far everyone.

I understand the need to prepare, and I am doing as much as possible. I do meditate and try to maintain a positive outlook on life as much as is possible these days.

However, I'm sure there are others in situations such as mine. I don't have a lot of money to stock up on food supplies, or anything to barter with. I don't have land that I can garden on or any natural water sources near by. I have bills and debt(due to medical issues) that require me to work my ass off.

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I can totally relate to your situation and have very little to stock up or barter either. After watching the last couple PC conferences I decided to do what I could and start assembling emergency supplies piece by piece, I was able to pull together enough to get by for a couple days...but needed a much sturdier backpack, the kind that costs $50. Living in LA I don't have a good coat.

The next day I walked into the Goodwill store and found a killer backpack for $7.99 and a Lands End goose down jacket for $9.99! A couple days later my neighbor gave me two big box's of Nutri-System food, so I pulled the food I thought I might be able to stomach if I was in a pinch and every time I go to the store I pick up a couple things to add to the supplies. Now I have a couple weeks work of food and a fairly well supplied emergency kit.

It's funny how once you make your mind up to do something, the Universe jumps in and backs up your efforts with considerable assistance - if you just pay attention and your grateful for the help. You're obviously doing the work by meditating, so keep throwing your good energy out there and visualizing with good intent and you'll get all the support you need from the intelligent universe, it's always there backing us up with loving support if it's for our Higher good.

Don't let the lack of money fool you, we're moving in a time when our creative ability are intensifying and if we believe in our on power to create, or manifest then it's becoming much easier to create what we need much quicker than before. Don't feed into the lack mentality...

I know, it's hard when your so broke you can't pay attention...but just remember we are always where we're meant to be and that our needs will always fulfilled.

~A~>

Jnana · 10-30-2009, 03:57 PM

Worst case scenario: things remain as they are.

The old must be swept away so that the new can be built. Don't cling to things as they are and be prepared to help build the new. Be true to yourself and live in your heart, not in your mind, and you will find a way through.

I'm finding it increasingly difficult to care about which way the material world turns and all of this who is going to do what to whom stuff. Throw me in prison? Fine, more time to meditate. Kill me? Fine, I hope I get a decent rest before coming back. Torture? That sucks a bit, hopefully I'll be able to leave my body. All of this nonsense is very tiring. Love, compassion, kindness, why is it so hard for people to figure these things out?

AscendingStarseed · 10-30-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnana

Worst case scenario: things remain as they are.

The old must be swept away so that the new can be built. Don't cling to things as they are and be prepared to help build the new. Be true to yourself and live in your heart, not in your mind, and you will find a way through.

I'm finding it increasingly difficult to care about which way the material world turns and all of this who is going to do what to whom stuff. Throw me in prison? Fine, more time to meditate. Kill me? Fine, I hope I get a decent rest before coming back. Torture? That sucks a bit, hopefully I'll be able to leave my body. All of this nonsense is very tiring. Love, compassion, kindness, why is it so hard for people to figure these things out?

Yeah I hear you and no, I'm not materialistic and don't cling to much of anything anymore....but, I do live in LA and when I heard how many earthquake swarms there have been lately, I decided it might be best to get somethings together just in case. Better safe than sorry...maybe if I were in Kansas I could afford to have a more relaxed outlook.

Samarkis · 11-01-2009, 06:32 PM

Ok all.... here is my super concentrated info to survive most crises..........

1. Save what you can for food and medical supplies within yr means........

a) dried beans,rice,alfalfa seeds to sprout,dried fruits and dried soup cubes,some kind of water filter system-preferably with a silverator and reverse osmosis........even if it is only a sports bottle size! You only need to filter drinking and water for washing wounds that is pure.....you can use a t-shirt and a tripod of sticks to filter streams and lakes etc for laundering....

b) eucalyptus & tea tree essential oils,colloidal silver-these will kill most fungus,molds,bacterias,viruses

c) FARMER'S ALMANAC-it has soooooooooo much useful info for survival on the earth!

d) an map atlas , in case you need to get somewhere

e) ropes,strings,threads,fishing lines,scissors,nail clippers,files,pocket knives,screw drivers,plyers,fishing hooks,tweezers,hammer

f) sheets preferably white for MANY purposes!

g) folding tents for you & yr family

these are the bare minimums to survive even if one has to move into nature.......

Most importantly, WE create our realities...........learn how to use yr minds to focus on Light!

Pls read the free e-books on www.michaelsharp.org

you don't have to register to read the free e-books and learn what Humanity is really doing............

Face yr fears and release!

Gnosis5 · 11-02-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Samarkis

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Pls read the free e-books on www.michaelsharp.org

you don't have to register to read the free e-books and learn what Humanity is really doing............

Face yr fears and release!

Hi Samarkis,

I like what he says here: A lot of people say a lot of different things but frankly if the things they say put the power outside of you, then the things they are saying are frackin ********. The capital "T" truth is, the power (and the glory) is within you and as soon as you know that, as soon as you remember who you are, and as soon as you understand it all starts with us, everything begins to change.

The trauma-oriented processes I used to reach my current awakening level have relieved me from the compulson to "put the power outside of myself". Even the Maittreya says we can reach a state where we no longer adhere to "identities" , including his own.

And, yes, as Michael intimates, I did have to go back thousands of years, plus some.

blessings,
gnosis

dolphin · 11-02-2009, 06:29 AM

AscendingStarseed;, that's awesome! yes, i believe the universe provides when you make up your mind.

"ABUNDANCE: the ability to do something when you need to do it. does not have to include money as the definition"...quote from Bashar.

Seashore · 06-09-2009, 01:11 AM

Quote:

...If you don't know how to fish and hunt and grow food yet, you better learn and there's plenty of info here and in the Avalon Library...

Good advice.

pyrangello · 03-21-2009, 02:53 PM

I think this is a 2 fold question, you have 2 scenerios going , The intercity scenerio and the rural community scenerio.

We have all heard of the drum beating of if the yo yo starts to unravel it will be time to leave the city. I've read some posts here of individuals who have limited means . May I suggest networking with a church in a rural area now if you have no other means of maybe another avalon member on this site can send a private email to those with limited resources on a one on one basis in there area for a back up plan. And if none of those work yes your gonna need to dig in and just do as much as you possibly can.

Rural areas , most will come together, I would say most rural areas will help secure there own towns and assist law enforcement when needed , many rural areas are self sufficcient to a certain degree.

None of this will be easy by any means.
Police Forces federalized- Just like D62 said , if your not doing anything wrong
whats the worry there.

Supply/Food - Do what you can , and yes gardens , stock some rice and dried beans / it's cheap and you can mix anything with rice, and some books on creative cooking, lots of soups.

Monetary institutions closed- If the dollar keeps going the way it is , who really cares at that point, there won't be enough people to reposess anything and there won't be any buyers either. And for all the gold talk , you can't eat gold or protect yourself with it.!

Loss of power- kerosene lamps, wood stoves, generator, propane has an indefinate shelf life, lots of matchs , solar option .

Armed solidier rounding up - Everyone knows whats right and whats wrong , well most do , I was thinking about this on the way home last night, we all know there is a certain amount of society that runs the dark side, Thats why we have the legal system and correctional facilities.

If xxxx hits the fans, - stay alert to your enviroment, you already have your plan right? If you don't you need to. I live in a town of 3000 and have another back up plan with another after that. There are a few friends and family to network with but Just like Vipassana said , I have a whole bunch of family members and friends who don't want to hear it , ya and they think I'm wacked too. So be it keep moving forward and stay with the light.

Will I give in - If I see a bus and they want us all to board from a safe place , I think you can figure out that answer.

Will I fight- Communities banding together helping law enforcement in their area for security reasons , absolutely I'll help.

What will others do - Keep it tight, keep it close- buy yourself a short wave radio that you can run off a mini solar panel, it's about $280.00 U.S. That way you can hear whats going on around the world with no power grid. Stay informed and stay focused and help others if you can. Just be reserved as you lend a hand.

Just do what you can do for yourself first and back up for others if need be.
And the most important part thru all of this , pray, and create positive energy.
My girlfriend tells me all the time, were gonna be alright, and shes much more connected than I am.

Dantheman62 · 03-21-2009, 04:55 PM

Lorien, remember it's not always what you have, to barter with, it can also be what you know. I think everybody has a quality that can be useful, whether they know it or not!

Swanny · 03-21-2009, 06:08 PM

My advice is hide stuff, and not all in one place, there will be people that want what you have and will take it if they can, just in case they do you should have most of your stock hidden.
When it calms down a bit then it will be safe to barter and share etc.

blastawaycas · 03-21-2009, 07:18 PM

i think i will try an find DANTHEMAN an move in with him !!!

its a big ocean but i'll get accross somehow !!!
kindest regards dave caster

Dantheman62 · 03-21-2009, 07:59 PM

Oh and I have a lot more than pop guns too!

Karen · 03-21-2009, 08:04 PM

On the Dr. Deagle show a few days ago he said that China thinks that it is China's turn to rule the world. One possible invasion of the USA scenario is they come in and give you a chance to leave, and then for those that stay, they release a weaponized race-specific virus to wipe out the rest. He talked about the genetic engineering they are doing to produce super-soldiers with incredible capacities.

Another source said the USA is so in debt to other nations, they are just going to come in and divvy up the country and China will get the Pacific NW where I live.

China!?! Frack!

All this makes me want to concoct a plan to move to South America while it is still possible to to escape, but I doubt I can pull that one off. And I'm pretty sure the global white hats are busy foiling as many nefarious plots as possible. And I'm pretty sure, I'm stuck right here in Eastern Oregon, feeling like the weirdest one in town.

So for my escape plan, I turned off Deagle and switched to Dan Winter, sacred geometry, creation, bliss, DNA and how to become a star ... and much more.

Dan Winter - The Purpose of DNA (PL)
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...2600B522EA25FD
{English with Polish subtitles}
In part 6 he talks about GMO food and how it may cost you your soul.
Part 7 - there is a beautiful animation of the holy grail
By part 9 he is talking about the borg and the issue of the White Powder Gold, ORME, Ormus that some people are consuming
Part 10 - The gold powder and the "beehive" of the Orion queen culture and "royal" family, reign of terror vs using the song of the blissful heart.
Part 11 - The problem with the white powder consumption is there is no individuation
Part 12 - and with only one source of Phi-re, everyone is phase embedded into total telepathy and you can no longer imagine yourself separate. The white powder gold is external technology.

What makes your heart sing? Bliss is the inside out technology that creates miracles and synchronicity in your life. In a different video series, Winter spoke of a Sufi saying: "Only love bends the light so only love creates." Compassion is feeling outside-in - it is shareable - it is the true "heart of gold" and the effects extend beyond this earth world after death. "Bliss is what makes us stars."

Here is a page, with lots of graphics, about the heart of everything:
http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/p...eartofSun.html

A Powerpoint presentation:
http://www.goldenmean.info/implosionweb/

Film library:
http://www.goldenmean.info/implosionmovies/

dolphin · 06-09-2009, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen

On the Dr. Deagle show a few days ago he said that China thinks that it is China's turn to rule the world. One possible invasion of the USA scenario is they come in and give you a chance to leave, and then for those that stay, they release a weaponized race-specific virus to wipe out the rest. He talked about the genetic engineering they are doing to produce super-soldiers with incredible capacities.

Another source said the USA is so in debt to other nations, they are just going to come in and divvy up the country and China will get the Pacific NW where I live.

China!?! Frack!

All this makes me want to concoct a plan to move to South America while it is still possible to to escape, but I doubt I can pull that one off. And I'm pretty sure the global white hats are busy foiling as many nefarious plots as possible. And I'm pretty sure, I'm stuck right here in Eastern Oregon, feeling like the weirdest one in town.

So for my escape plan, I turned off Deagle and switched to Dan Winter, sacred geometry, creation, bliss, DNA and how to become a star ... and much more.

Dan Winter - The Purpose of DNA (PL)
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...2600B522EA25FD
{English with Polish subtitles}
In part 6 he talks about GMO food and how it may cost you your soul.
Part 7 - there is a beautiful animation of the holy grail
By part 9 he is talking about the borg and the issue of the White Powder Gold, ORME, Ormus that some people are consuming
Part 10 - The gold powder and the "beehive" of the Orion queen culture and "royal" family, reign of terror vs using the song of the blissful heart.
Part 11 - The problem with the white powder consumption is there is no individuation
Part 12 - and with only one source of Phi-re, everyone is phase embedded into total telepathy and you can no longer imagine yourself separate. The white powder gold is external technology.

What makes your heart sing? Bliss is the inside out technology that creates miracles and synchronicity in your life. In a different video series, Winter spoke of a Sufi saying: "Only love bends the light so only love creates." Compassion is feeling outside-in - it is shareable - it is the true "heart of gold" and the effects extend beyond this earth world after death. "Bliss is what makes us stars."

Here is a page, with lots of graphics, about the heart of everything:
http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/p...eartofSun.html

A Powerpoint presentation:
http://www.goldenmean.info/implosionweb/

Film library:
http://www.goldenmean.info/implosionmovies/

thanks karen for the info on dan winters! he's terrific...watching the video now...seems to corroborate what i read from alex collier and bashar

.

03-21-2009, 01:57 AM	#1
Lorien Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Beyond the rim.... Posts: 412	Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Hypothetical Situation: Police Forces are Federalized Supply of Food and Necessities Cut Off All Monetary Institutions Closed Loss of Power, Heat, etc. Armed Soldiers Rounding up "Non Enemy Combatants" and Protesters And the list goes on.... And so I was thinking... What will I do if **** does hit the fan sometime soon? Will I give in? Will I fight? What will others do? What will you do? What if people like us are detained because we know and seek the truth? Have any of us really thought about this? Should we have a common destination to fall back to? A place to gather kindred spirits and plan a rebellion against the elite? A place to wait out the storm? Please, lend me your thoughts.

03-21-2009, 02:05 AM	#2
777 The Great Work Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: At the doors of perception Posts: 2,135	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Great question, i try to keep in mind the phrase,not my will but your will. Under no circumstance, am i takeing the mark. So i'm constantly preparing to enter the portal if thats the creator's will.

03-21-2009, 03:42 AM	#3
waitinginthewings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 1,340	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Lorien: I too have thought about this quite a bit......& I like the idea of a gathering place for us of like mind to get to, & decide what to do next. I think fighting THPB would be a waste of our energy. So for me I would be conserving my energy for survival & staying sane during the difficult phase. I truly believe that there time now is short, so its a matter of holding our ground, our energy & waiting patiently until we "know" what the next move is.

03-21-2009, 06:05 AM	#4
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere My simplistic way of looking at it is to just be prepared and try and stay one step ahead! Police Forces are Federalized= I don't worry about police because I'm not doing anything wrong! Supply of Food and Necessities Cut Off= That's what growing a garden is all about and getting a water filter! All Monetary Institutions Closed= I don't have any money anyway, LOL, and that's what the barter system is all about! Loss of Power, Heat, etc.= Doesn't really matter now because summer's coming up and you don't need it, and you'll have all summer to prepare for winter! Armed Soldiers Rounding up "Non Enemy Combatants" and Protesters= So don't be a non enemy combatant, and don't protest, just go with the flow! What will I do if **** does hit the fan sometime soon? = That's where being prepared comes in, I myself am going to my aunts in southern Illinois and meeting up with my brother and sisters. My aunt knows everybody in her town from the judge, to the doctors, to the grocery store owners and managers, to all the liquor distributors, and plus she always has a big garden and lives on a lake! Will I give in?= No, there's plenty of places to hide because it's a big country! Will I fight? = Depends, if myself or family's mortality is at stake, yes! What will others do? = Doesn't matter! What will I do?= Explained above! I somewhat disagree with this idea that you need to be in a group to survive. One of the reasons of this forum is to learn how to survive and I think you need to learn how to survive as if you were on your own, because you might be. If you don't know how to fish and hunt and grow food yet, you better learn and there's plenty of info here and in the Avalon Library. I'm lucky because that's all second hand for me because I grew up fishing and hunting and camping and all that good stuff, so surviving is going to be the easy part for me. The hard part is just to have to possibly go back to the stone age ways of living, which actually won't be that hard if you're prepared. And that's my two cents worth! LOL!

03-21-2009, 06:48 AM	#5
giovonni Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: within my heart Posts: 1,209	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Thats a good attitude Dan! Most of us have been preparing and adjusting too these possibilities for a while now? The keys words~ I suggest too survival are to stay focused in your (meditative) manifestations of what you (envision) and would like your future to be> be flexible and try to maintain a purposeful calmness within yourself The future is going to be ~kind of~ like this Last edited by giovonni; 03-21-2009 at 06:55 AM.

03-21-2009, 06:54 AM	#6
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere True gio!, I've always said that life is a carnival, you just have to pick the best ride!

03-21-2009, 07:05 AM	#7
Machinamentum Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 413	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Man made Super Ebola.

03-21-2009, 07:18 AM	#8
Machinamentum Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 413	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Yep I've been pondering this thought for all my life it seems. It's kind of sad, growing up, I never had a glimpse of hope for the future until Camelot. But still when I look out my window at times, I cant help but imagine mushroom crowds over NORAD or a virus plagued world and I'm left to wander a mutated planet side. Kind of a fallout situation. Can't help it.

03-21-2009, 10:00 AM	#9
vipassana Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 69	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Sometimes I wonder what will happen to me and my two teenage children when/if things get rough. I'm alone because my family think I'm weird so they avoid me. Despite trying I've never been able to meet any like minded people so I only have acquaintences. I have a water filter, a growing food store and a vegetable garden and an attitude that whatever happens I'll have to stay calm and deal with it. Scary? yes Lonely? yes. Most of the time I just live in the day and keep trying to make a true friend/s. Internet is OK but I'd like to meet people off line.

03-21-2009, 10:22 AM	#10
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere When people are heading to the food shops I'll be off to buy ply wood to board up my windows

03-21-2009, 01:21 PM	#11
Lorien Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Beyond the rim.... Posts: 412	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Thanks for the replies so far everyone. I understand the need to prepare, and I am doing as much as possible. I do meditate and try to maintain a positive outlook on life as much as is possible these days. However, I'm sure there are others in situations such as mine. I don't have a lot of money to stock up on food supplies, or anything to barter with. I don't have land that I can garden on or any natural water sources near by. I have bills and debt(due to medical issues) that require me to work my ass off. What happens if we do end up in a situation like Machinamentum said where half of our country is an abandoned wasteland do to nuclear attack or cataclysmic weather or something of the sort? Where do we go? I'm not being paranoid or freaking out about it, i'm actually quite calm. Just trying to get a feel for reactions to various scenarios. Thanks again!

10-30-2009, 11:47 AM	#12
AscendingStarseed Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 355	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere [QUOTE=Lorien;121991]Thanks for the replies so far everyone. I understand the need to prepare, and I am doing as much as possible. I do meditate and try to maintain a positive outlook on life as much as is possible these days. However, I'm sure there are others in situations such as mine. I don't have a lot of money to stock up on food supplies, or anything to barter with. I don't have land that I can garden on or any natural water sources near by. I have bills and debt(due to medical issues) that require me to work my ass off. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ I can totally relate to your situation and have very little to stock up or barter either. After watching the last couple PC conferences I decided to do what I could and start assembling emergency supplies piece by piece, I was able to pull together enough to get by for a couple days...but needed a much sturdier backpack, the kind that costs $50. Living in LA I don't have a good coat. The next day I walked into the Goodwill store and found a killer backpack for $7.99 and a Lands End goose down jacket for $9.99! A couple days later my neighbor gave me two big box's of Nutri-System food, so I pulled the food I thought I might be able to stomach if I was in a pinch and every time I go to the store I pick up a couple things to add to the supplies. Now I have a couple weeks work of food and a fairly well supplied emergency kit. It's funny how once you make your mind up to do something, the Universe jumps in and backs up your efforts with considerable assistance - if you just pay attention and your grateful for the help. You're obviously doing the work by meditating, so keep throwing your good energy out there and visualizing with good intent and you'll get all the support you need from the intelligent universe, it's always there backing us up with loving support if it's for our Higher good. Don't let the lack of money fool you, we're moving in a time when our creative ability are intensifying and if we believe in our on power to create, or manifest then it's becoming much easier to create what we need much quicker than before. Don't feed into the lack mentality... I know, it's hard when your so broke you can't pay attention...but just remember we are always where we're meant to be and that our needs will always fulfilled. ~A~>

10-30-2009, 03:57 PM	#13
Jnana Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 653	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Worst case scenario: things remain as they are. The old must be swept away so that the new can be built. Don't cling to things as they are and be prepared to help build the new. Be true to yourself and live in your heart, not in your mind, and you will find a way through. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to care about which way the material world turns and all of this who is going to do what to whom stuff. Throw me in prison? Fine, more time to meditate. Kill me? Fine, I hope I get a decent rest before coming back. Torture? That sucks a bit, hopefully I'll be able to leave my body. All of this nonsense is very tiring. Love, compassion, kindness, why is it so hard for people to figure these things out?

11-01-2009, 06:32 PM	#15
Samarkis Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 548	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Ok all.... here is my super concentrated info to survive most crises.......... 1. Save what you can for food and medical supplies within yr means........ a) dried beans,rice,alfalfa seeds to sprout,dried fruits and dried soup cubes,some kind of water filter system-preferably with a silverator and reverse osmosis........even if it is only a sports bottle size! You only need to filter drinking and water for washing wounds that is pure.....you can use a t-shirt and a tripod of sticks to filter streams and lakes etc for laundering.... b) eucalyptus & tea tree essential oils,colloidal silver-these will kill most fungus,molds,bacterias,viruses c) FARMER'S ALMANAC-it has soooooooooo much useful info for survival on the earth! d) an map atlas , in case you need to get somewhere e) ropes,strings,threads,fishing lines,scissors,nail clippers,files,pocket knives,screw drivers,plyers,fishing hooks,tweezers,hammer f) sheets preferably white for MANY purposes! g) folding tents for you & yr family these are the bare minimums to survive even if one has to move into nature....... Most importantly, WE create our realities...........learn how to use yr minds to focus on Light! Pls read the free e-books on www.michaelsharp.org you don't have to register to read the free e-books and learn what Humanity is really doing............ Face yr fears and release!

11-02-2009, 06:29 AM	#17
dolphin Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 277	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere AscendingStarseed;, that's awesome! yes, i believe the universe provides when you make up your mind. "ABUNDANCE: the ability to do something when you need to do it. does not have to include money as the definition"...quote from Bashar.

03-21-2009, 02:53 PM	#19
pyrangello Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 412	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere I think this is a 2 fold question, you have 2 scenerios going , The intercity scenerio and the rural community scenerio. We have all heard of the drum beating of if the yo yo starts to unravel it will be time to leave the city. I've read some posts here of individuals who have limited means . May I suggest networking with a church in a rural area now if you have no other means of maybe another avalon member on this site can send a private email to those with limited resources on a one on one basis in there area for a back up plan. And if none of those work yes your gonna need to dig in and just do as much as you possibly can. Rural areas , most will come together, I would say most rural areas will help secure there own towns and assist law enforcement when needed , many rural areas are self sufficcient to a certain degree. None of this will be easy by any means. Police Forces federalized- Just like D62 said , if your not doing anything wrong whats the worry there. Supply/Food - Do what you can , and yes gardens , stock some rice and dried beans / it's cheap and you can mix anything with rice, and some books on creative cooking, lots of soups. Monetary institutions closed- If the dollar keeps going the way it is , who really cares at that point, there won't be enough people to reposess anything and there won't be any buyers either. And for all the gold talk , you can't eat gold or protect yourself with it.! Loss of power- kerosene lamps, wood stoves, generator, propane has an indefinate shelf life, lots of matchs , solar option . Armed solidier rounding up - Everyone knows whats right and whats wrong , well most do , I was thinking about this on the way home last night, we all know there is a certain amount of society that runs the dark side, Thats why we have the legal system and correctional facilities. If xxxx hits the fans, - stay alert to your enviroment, you already have your plan right? If you don't you need to. I live in a town of 3000 and have another back up plan with another after that. There are a few friends and family to network with but Just like Vipassana said , I have a whole bunch of family members and friends who don't want to hear it , ya and they think I'm wacked too. So be it keep moving forward and stay with the light. Will I give in - If I see a bus and they want us all to board from a safe place , I think you can figure out that answer. Will I fight- Communities banding together helping law enforcement in their area for security reasons , absolutely I'll help. What will others do - Keep it tight, keep it close- buy yourself a short wave radio that you can run off a mini solar panel, it's about $280.00 U.S. That way you can hear whats going on around the world with no power grid. Stay informed and stay focused and help others if you can. Just be reserved as you lend a hand. Just do what you can do for yourself first and back up for others if need be. And the most important part thru all of this , pray, and create positive energy. My girlfriend tells me all the time, were gonna be alright, and shes much more connected than I am.

03-21-2009, 04:55 PM	#20
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Lorien, remember it's not always what you have, to barter with, it can also be what you know. I think everybody has a quality that can be useful, whether they know it or not! Last edited by Dantheman62; 03-21-2009 at 07:59 PM.

03-21-2009, 06:08 PM	#21
Swanny I dont need a label ! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Shire of Wilt Posts: 2,889	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere My advice is hide stuff, and not all in one place, there will be people that want what you have and will take it if they can, just in case they do you should have most of your stock hidden. When it calms down a bit then it will be safe to barter and share etc.

03-21-2009, 07:18 PM	#22
blastawaycas Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Middlesbrough United Kingdom Posts: 229	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere i think i will try an find DANTHEMAN an move in with him !!! its a big ocean but i'll get accross somehow !!! kindest regards dave caster

03-21-2009, 07:59 PM	#23
Dantheman62 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So. Cal. U.S. Posts: 4,205	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere Oh and I have a lot more than pop guns too! Last edited by Dantheman62; 03-21-2009 at 08:22 PM.

03-21-2009, 08:04 PM	#24
Karen Project Avalon Organizer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NE Oregon boondocks, USA Posts: 1,767	Re: Worst case scenario in the U.S. and elsewhere On the Dr. Deagle show a few days ago he said that China thinks that it is China's turn to rule the world. One possible invasion of the USA scenario is they come in and give you a chance to leave, and then for those that stay, they release a weaponized race-specific virus to wipe out the rest. He talked about the genetic engineering they are doing to produce super-soldiers with incredible capacities. Another source said the USA is so in debt to other nations, they are just going to come in and divvy up the country and China will get the Pacific NW where I live. China!?! Frack! All this makes me want to concoct a plan to move to South America while it is still possible to to escape, but I doubt I can pull that one off. And I'm pretty sure the global white hats are busy foiling as many nefarious plots as possible. And I'm pretty sure, I'm stuck right here in Eastern Oregon, feeling like the weirdest one in town. So for my escape plan, I turned off Deagle and switched to Dan Winter, sacred geometry, creation, bliss, DNA and how to become a star ... and much more. Dan Winter - The Purpose of DNA (PL) http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...2600B522EA25FD {English with Polish subtitles} In part 6 he talks about GMO food and how it may cost you your soul. Part 7 - there is a beautiful animation of the holy grail By part 9 he is talking about the borg and the issue of the White Powder Gold, ORME, Ormus that some people are consuming Part 10 - The gold powder and the "beehive" of the Orion queen culture and "royal" family, reign of terror vs using the song of the blissful heart. Part 11 - The problem with the white powder consumption is there is no individuation Part 12 - and with only one source of Phi-re, everyone is phase embedded into total telepathy and you can no longer imagine yourself separate. The white powder gold is external technology. What makes your heart sing? Bliss is the inside out technology that creates miracles and synchronicity in your life. In a different video series, Winter spoke of a Sufi saying: "Only love bends the light so only love creates." Compassion is feeling outside-in - it is shareable - it is the true "heart of gold" and the effects extend beyond this earth world after death. "Bliss is what makes us stars." Here is a page, with lots of graphics, about the heart of everything: http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/p...eartofSun.html A Powerpoint presentation: http://www.goldenmean.info/implosionweb/ Film library: http://www.goldenmean.info/implosionmovies/ Last edited by Karen; 03-21-2009 at 08:07 PM.