Tree of Life

[ashton3625]

Hello all! My name is ashton and im 18 years old at the moment and i wasnt really sure if this was posted before so i figured i would start it up!

My believe is that cannibas is the tree of life... well the physical form.

7 leaves.... It has the potential to save our economy in every shape and form. From clothes to oil and from oil in actual recreational use. its obvious you can have too much of a good thing but if u can find the right balance i believe it brings you closer to the light, because... to figure out what the tree of life is you must know wat life is. And life is now... wat else brings you more into the now than that? Maybe it makes your eyes red for a reason... close them! You forget things for a reason too... things dont matter they are non reality. you can completly indulge in the now.

But there also must be a non physical form which is most likely the chakra system or the tree of life in kabbalah.

it has been very helpful in my awakening process...

let me know wat you think!

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[arcora]

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[ctophil]

Originally Posted by ashton3625

Hello all! My name is ashton and im 18 years old at the moment and i wasnt really sure if this was posted before so i figured i would start it up!

My believe is that cannibas is the tree of life... well the physical form.

7 leaves.... It has the potential to save our economy in every shape and form. From clothes to oil and from oil in actual recreational use. its obvious you can have too much of a good thing but if u can find the right balance i believe it brings you closer to the light, because... to figure out what the tree of life is you must know wat life is. And life is now... wat else brings you more into the now than that? Maybe it makes your eyes red for a reason... close them! You forget things for a reason too... things dont matter they are non reality. you can completly indulge in the now.

But there also must be a non physical form which is most likely the chakra system or the tree of life in kabbalah.

it has been very helpful in my awakening process...

let me know wat you think!

First of all, the "Tree of Life" is not a physical tree. It's a Spiritual Metaphor. Secondly, the use of drugs is never the way. You may feel high with the added warm and fuzzy effects; but it will confuse you and destroy you. I have had a couple of "friends" in the past who think they have ascended to "new levels of consciousness and spirituality" with Marijuana. Not even close. Maybe closer to the Kingdom of Satan I give you that. Because the occult often use drugs for their blood rituals. Think about that one.

-Phillip

[Orion11]

wow,

You should educate yourself ctophil,

That is absolutely rediculous.

and please dont say your educated on the subject,

if you were you surely would not say what you did.

unreal.

think about that one.

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by Orion11

wow,

You should educate yourself ctophil,

That is absolutely rediculous.

and please dont say your educated on the subject,

if you were you surely would not say what you did.

unreal.

think about that one.

I already know the capabilities of Cannabis. What I'm talking about is the thought of using it to reach "higher" levels of life and spirituality. It's not the answer and never will be. Like I said, it's only a tool of deception from the devil. Some people use it just to get high; while "Christians" and other people use it to try to find a deeper meaning of life and to find the way to happiness. Wrong and wrong again. It will only cause a "corruption" in your mind and spirit.

-Phillip

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by ctophil

I already know the capabilities of Cannabis. What I'm talking about is the thought of using it to reach "higher" levels of life and spirituality. It's not the answer and never will be. Like I said, it's only a tool of deception from the devil. Some people use it just to get high; while "Christians" and other people use it to try to find a deeper meaning of life and to find the way to happiness. Wrong and wrong again. It will only cause a "corruption" in your mind and spirit.

-Phillip

Ctophil, wrong and wrong again. One the tree of life CAN be seen as a physical manifestation. This is something I realized on my own without your so called books! Imagine a tree, any tree. It's roots are in the ground, Earth, one of the four elements. The branches are in the Air. The branches/leaves experience Fire through sunlight. The roots experience Water in the ground through rain. If you learn the basics of the four elements, mainly the Greek understanding (where also you get some of your beloved translations Philip), you can also directly apply it to this idea and understand it even further. At the heart of the tree is aether, your conscienceness or life. You can then even view this tree as a rough infinity symbol with the branchs and roots reaching out and then meeting at the base or trunk. The upper part of the tree is masculine reaching out into the sky, or terra, the masculine spirit. The lower part is feminine reaching out into the ground, or Gaia.

I can even go further in how much creation can be understood within the Tree of Life but I may just start to lose people when I get into the mathematics. Otherwise the Tree of Life is metaphorical and physical, one in the same.

Two, FACT: If it was not for marijuana I would not be having this discussion right now. I would of gone to MIT, got a masters in Aerospace engineering, and would be designing bombs for Lockheed Martin to blow up little kids in Iraq. Instead, it started me on a path of enlightenment. It helped me develop socially. FOR NEGATIVE THINGS IN ONE LIFE (IMO, pot is a tool, and like any tool in the wrong hands...), CAN CAUSE A CATALYST FOR CHANGE AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF A LESSON.

I will make a brash statement, but I am one of the leading if not the best at my art form in my home state, and one of the leading artists in all of New England in this art. IF IT WASN'T FOR DRUGS I WOULD BE SKINNY, UNMUSCULAR, OUT OF SHAPE, AND IN BAD HEALTH.

Edit: I wanted to make a note. I'm not saying I take drugs like steriods to make me in shape no no. I was writing that also out of frustration and really didn't read it. What I meant is a certain drug induced experience led me to take a specific path, such as pursuing that art. I do not need that drug to engage into that art.

[arcora]

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[GregorArturo]

One thing Arcora, I ate that fruit some time ago and it sure was delicious! However, most universities today teach it through Plato's Republic, known as the Allegory of the Cave. It is considered to be one of most important philosophical concepts on the planet, and has survived for 2,500 years. Plato was by no means in the grasps of Lucifer.

Two, you need to remember some people do not recognize heaven and hell. I am not saying they do not exist, or that I myself put faith into such concepts, what I am stating is on the board you are the minority in your beliefs, and I do not mean that negatively, by no means. And with that regards, most people will not even answer such a question. So if you want people to address your notion, I recommend rephrasing it

As for myself, I live in the infinity, and will always be apart of the infinity. And that can be proven in any classroom on the planet in under ten minutes. Just give me some chalk.

[arcora]

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[GregorArturo]

Thank you Arcora for the rephrasing However, one note, on this forum those are not popular in the metaphorical sense, everyday Christian America yes, but not here. If you reference positive or negative polarities, good or evil, it would work much better as heaven and hell describes places or locations in which that is present. Heaven and hell turn those intangible concepts into something tangible, which many of us disagree with here.

Of course, one would lean toward 'those that want to be free'. However, I myself do not follow anyone. Nor do most people here. We follow our hearts and intuition, that 'warm fuzzy feeling' you guys tend to shoot down. If it wasn't for that 'warm fuzzy feeling' I among others probably wouldn't be having this discussion as we may have gone down another path, or worse, we'd be dead.

It's amazing how close you can get in a car accident sometimes. I mean you don't always want to follow that traffic light. When it turns green, sometimes it's good to wait just a second more.

Thanks warm fuzzy feelings

[arcora]

xxx

[GregorArturo]

Hey Arcora, don't put youself down like that. I don't think you're ignorant, I think Philip your buddy is only because of some outrageous statements while refusing to discuss them in an appropriate manner. You my friend are much more honest, open minded, and respectful We can BOTH learn from understanding each others views.

In the answer to your question, that's a touchy subject. I really cannot say I devote my life to anything. In my beliefs, if you wanted to relate it to the Law of One (In all honesty, putting petty human terms on such metaphysical beliefs I don't think does it justice), they are one in the same. The way my mind works, I really cannot even comprehend such a question as I do not see a difference between the former and the latter.

At the moment, my only devotion I could say is the pursuit of knowledge, or universal truths, and understanding those concepts, and then implementing those concepts into my physical reality. I reconcile that with my numbers for the most part

Here's a short little sweet story. There's a savant from England who was blessed with ability to do complex mathematical calculations in his head, and does not see numbers as symbols as we do, but only shapes. It is in these shapes that he can see patterns. For that is all math is, along with life, is the relationships of different entities with each other which brings forth patterns. Because without those differing entities to relate to, you are back to one! It all comes back to one. Anyways, when the boy sees (well he's in his twenties now) the number pi, or 3.14159... (So beautiful mmmm), he says he sees one of the most beautiful things he has ever witnessed in his entire life experience, and he views it from within There's a documentary about him too that's absolutely wonderful. He calculated pi to the 25,000 digit on his own!

[PodWORLD]

Some savants see complex numbers as colours too which must be a beautiful experience.

It's interesting that more people see God as an ethereal force all existant as that's how the civilisations of the past viewed it. Pantheons were tools of the elites to administer the different walks of life.

I've enjoyed your discussion as even with your different points of view you all show intellect, respect and humanity. Welcome attributes.

[arcora]

xxx

[ashton3625]

Wow this thread got out of control. So much negativity hah. To me... marijuana is and was a tool. It is not the answer... the answer is inside you... not outside. Here are some points id like to talk about though..

Marijuana is not a drugs. At all. Mearly a plant.

It does not have to be smoked and i once read it could be turned into an oil based form which was used in annointing kings and such. But still not sure if that is true.

It does not corrupt your mind at all hah. Its not harmful except if u smoke it.. just like if u smoke ne thing else in the world it will be harmful to your lungs.

I believe it brings you closer to the light. But will not get you to the light. Natural 'drugs' can help you see things clearer but if you depend on them and do not 'awaken' they will lead your ego to crazy places.

Life is just different when you can recongnize your ego. Things dont matter so much ne more. I just dont understand why these forums turn so negative. Have you ever listened to Bob Marley? Im pretty sure he smoked and... he helped change the world in many ways. If you dont know how to use marijuana as a tool... then it is using you rather than u getting the benefits. But regardless... the non-manifested tree of life seems to be much more of a key : ) Dont worry about a thing... this is my message to you.

[arcora]

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[being]

The tree of life is, always has been and always will be the Kabbalah.


http://www.gnosticteachings.org/cour...roduction-pt-1

http://www.gnosticteachings.org/cour...h-introduction

http://www.gnosticteachings.org/the-...e-the-kabbalah

[ATYT]

Originally Posted by arcora

Shedding the ego is imperative. In order to do it, one must give up all attachment to earthly things - including medicinal herbs.

THIS IS GOLD . i second this with my life.

[taomation]

One thing is for sure. You produced a provocative subject. I believe that anyone who shoots down an idea without really considering it first isn't doing it justice.

Most if not all psychedelics, put you on what I call the other side of the veil. They allow you to a take a "trip" into spirituality, but as with any "trip" you have to come down and then take another trip. That's why it is not sustainable. The native Americans would do peyote to peer into the spiritaul world, but they would take two years to cultivate themselves and the plants by praying to them and then when they would take the Peyote they might have a vision that set a path for the rest of thier lives. There was a purpose.

Sometime people need to gain a glimpse of the destionation so that they may set out for it, ulitmately with a better way of creating a permanent residence in spirit rather than just a "trip".

May I recommend serious meditation as a way of creating a permamant and truly mind altering alternative...Tao

PS I think that I like others in this concersation are not just one one side or the other. I have smoked casually in the past and had visions on other organic hallucinagens, now I meditate. It is to my knowledge, the only activity that can alter the neuro nets in your brain and bring the mind into true balance.

[Greg10036]

Hi Ashton. The tree of life is a unified energetic matrix. It is based upon the superimposition of Plato's Solids in a tesselated matrix. What is referred to as the tree of life is the bisection of the nodes on a two dimensional plane. Depending on how many tesselations are utilized in a given matrix, you can create from one to thirteen. Any tesselations greater than thirteen will yield stub solids, or Johnson Solids that can be either right or left handed depending on construction. Mind altering substances get in the way of understanding and performing these matrices. Peace.
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[Delphi]

i can't resist offering another view of the tree of life. Sorry if it's a bit gory but when I gave birth to my son at home, the pattern of blood vessels on the placenta looked like a tree and it had quite literally given life to my child.
love to all

[Edward Alexander]

arcora: Thanks for the background information and for expanding on what you mean and believe and have experienced. That puts you in a new light for me and I can say I can understand the things you mention there.

Personally I'm not trying to say there is nothing divine, or no good or bad etc, actually quite the opposite: There IS good out there, and the Divine Laws are here for all of us, no matter if we believe in them, know of them, or not.

There are good entities out there to help and assist us and try lead us towards greater understanding and insights, to see the bigger picture and the connections, which I've been experiencing for many years, decades really, myself now.

What you call God seem to be what I call Goodness, or the Positive Energy. This is there to help and guide and protect us, and so are we ourselves, we need to understand our own being and we'll be free - we can learn to distinguish negative influences from positive ones and we are all influenced by both at many levels through our consciousness in our daily - and nightly - lifes.

For me, Jesus was a normal man, that spent time on spiritual development, traveled around and found various systems of spirituality he practiced that helped him gain what is popularly called Enlightenment. There's been many such individuals through time. And there still are, and we can all reach that level of being ourselves.

He was not more a Son of God than anyone else, we are all Daughters and Sons of God - he had just evolved spiritually more than most.

When it comes to GOD, GOD is a conscious Source that embraces everything that exists, and everything exists within the consciousness of God. Nothing can exist outside God, as that would make something Above God and thus that other element would have to be God. So, there exists many gods, deities, demons and devils, all within the Source of the Consciousness of the TRUE GOD.

It is possible to connect to the Source and gain great insights, understanding and knowledge on everything about existence and all within it, but communication with God as a "conversation", is not something I see as probable as it is potraid by the Bible and Prophets etc, and other people who claim to be in contact by God and "speaking" with Him. For me, those are most likely in contact with other entities.

Best wishes,
-ea

[Edward Alexander]

You must not confuse the biblical "god" with The True God Above All, whom is the Source of All Existence.

For starters, in the bible it mentions GODS, in plural, just study the original hebrew version of the bible.

It is better to reign and serve at the same time, reingn in your own creation, and serve those there as good you can.

Lucifer and Satan are also two different entities, as many other entities that has been widely connected with Satan / The Devil. Just like GOD was several different entities originally.

Study sumerian religious belief, that's what christianity and the bible is inspired from, it is the Source and has more original truth to it that the later perverted and modified bible which was created to keep you - the people - as obedient slaves to the Masters , The Church and Government - and in ignorance of your true spiritual being, the other creator entities / gods out there, and the potentials we have.

It is not about worshipping any Gods at all, not Satan not "God" - but to find your OWN true inner being and expand your capacities and realize what YOU are in this existence, WITHIN God.

-EA

[arcora]

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