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Lance - good to hear there are people aware of ibogaine here. I found it the most hard-core psychedelic I'd ever done... and it lasts 24 hours compared to say Amazonian Ayhuasca that's 8-12 at most!! PM me with an email address if you want. I'm interested in what's going on in Canada with re to this. |
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09-25-2008, 05:52 PM | #28 | |
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To be honest, there isn't much going on with ibogaine right now. Sandra Karpetas (http://www.maps.org/ibogaine/) whom was running a clinic about 3 miles down the road from me...is in Russia setting up a clinic there. She will be back in December and it might get up and running again. |
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09-26-2008, 04:01 AM | #29 |
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Ibogaine is fairly amazing & undoubtedly being suppressed.
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09-26-2008, 12:30 PM | #30 | |
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Ibogaine however does not seem to "stop" addiction to opioids, cocaine, alcohol nicoteen etc - more it offers a rare "window" for users to take a step back and stop a little more easily. One more thing - I found ibogaine created one of the strongest [and most weirdly, darkly humourous!] synchronicity flows ever for the few days after taking it. It was like walking round in 2 meshing dimensions. I think his [Howard's] site is http://ibogaine.org Link for more: http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=257 |
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heh, so typical of this thread's build to get derailed
Ibogaine from what i heard in 2006 potentially resets receptor sites in the brain & if the datas correct causes the excess receptors developed throughout the addiction process to shed in a drastically short period of time as opposed to the standard 6+months. Quote:
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I still remember that nasty back firing neuron frying feeling of the come down. in short: certain substances if ingested in a high doses will extend duration drastically and others may only add intensity to standard duration. I feel its baffling just how much we DONT know about how the brain is using these compounds. Their is much speculate & some evidence they play roles in Death & dreams. I've moved on from using drugs to numb out & stopped using psychedelics which seem to be a polar opposite to "numbing out" since its over amplifying every feeling & beyond quiet literally by overloading the synapse with those back crazy firing neurons giving non existing sensory output etc. psychedelics, i feel i've learned all i could have hoped to at this point from those teachers. Humans can access those dimensions naturally but much less diluted though meditation & spiritual means. Love & Light, Last edited by FrostyMcunicron; 10-05-2008 at 09:10 AM. |
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Honey take honey... an excellent antibiotic and nutritious as well. And don't forget toilet paper... If you need all that medication... I GUARANTEE you won't know what to do without toilet paper |
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10-06-2008, 11:01 PM | #33 |
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the best is sprouting seeds......they grow 10x their size !!!!
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10-07-2008, 03:31 PM | #34 |
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Good question.
Radiation and heavy metal poisoning: Lecithin Pectinates lots of C Apples- lots of them. They absorb heavy metals. RNA/DNA uses with kelp for metabolism. Sea Kelp in all forms. Stabalizes metabolism and absorbs heavy toxins. Digestion and parasites: Clarkia-green hull black walnut, comfrey, and wormwood paipane-used for spinal pain also Betaine Hydrochloride- great for digestion, allergies, joint and spinal pain. raw cider vinegar virgin olive oil lugols consumable iodine Lots and lots of C-10K mg/day. C complex- hesperidin/rutin/flaxin. Iike Solgar bioflavinoid. Expensive but the best. Infections: garlic cloves for topical, capsules internal Lots and lots of C- C powder for topical wounds Echinacea Metabolism and endocrine RNA/DNA Sea kelp Dong Quai Fo Ti Blood purifiers and thinners: Red clover Cayenne pepper caution with these. |
10-07-2008, 05:28 PM | #35 |
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Tea tree oil. Lavender oil. Cannabis. Oils of rosemary, eucalyptus, peppermint. Honey. Cinnamon. Grapefruit seed extract. Grapeseed extract. Echinacea and goldenseal. Graviola. Potassium iodide tablets. Multivitamins. Ibuprofen, percoset, vicodin, any painkillers I could find. Enteric coated, nonrefrigerated probiotic capsules. Oregano oil. Aloe vera. Activated charcoal capsules. Bentonite. Pine tar and turpentine. Castor oil. Water purification tablets. Snakebite kit. OK, I'll quit...I actually have all this stuff sitting around or packed away. I know the native food plants fairly well, the medicinal plants less well. |
10-07-2008, 08:38 PM | #36 | |
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A few weeks ago I had a journey with acid (not sure how many micrograms, seeing as the source gave it to me by using an eye-dropper on a sugar cube) that lasted 20+ hours. The most intense trip I've ever had, having experienced previous trips with acid, shrooms, salvia, e, morning glory and vilca. Even more far out than the intense salvia trip in which I lost all awareness of my body and was quite disturbed by the subsequent stories of things I had done in my friends house while I was *out* (apparently I really frightened some people). However, this trip was even more integrative and mind expanding than the salvia one, particularly because of something I and the friend I was tripping with decided to do: We sat down in my garage, turned off the lights, and stayed in complete darkness for a bout 2.5 hours. We figured out the time component later because when we were in it there was absolutely no awareness of time OR space. There was no difference between closing my eyes or opening them. My friends voice was an intelligence projected from some unassessable space, and the only thing keeping me connected to the idea that we were people with bodies. Otherwise we were flying high in the void. Best way to do a high dosage of any psychedelic: Sit In Silent Darkness I made the greatest gains in consciousness evolution that I've made thus far in my life on that single trip. |
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10-07-2008, 08:58 PM | #37 |
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Here are some suggestions not.
LSD or equiv natural substances for expanding your mind. Maybe you too will have some conciousness raising dreams you can share with others. Maybe you will have telepathic contact with space beings. Maybe this life will become even more trippy and cool for you. Up will become down. Red will become blue. Possibly Avalon will become a refuge for those seeking peace, love and community of like minded druggies. How about a bottle of black pills just like James Bond had just for that bad moment when the next interview tells you it will be all over in a few minutes. Come on people. Drugs are not the answer to expanding your mind. You are going in the wrong direction but maybe that is what this forum is all about. Do you really think that promoting hallucin drugs will help others here? Grow up a tiny bit please. |
10-08-2008, 01:45 PM | #38 |
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How to get perscription meds?
Can anyone provide insight on how I might get some perscription meds like CIPRO? I would like to add it to my emergency kit but don't think my doctor will give me a perscription (actually I would like to get 4-6 regimines cause I have two children plus my spouse.
I am concerned about getting 'counterfeit' drugs and need a reliable way to acquire the real stuff. I live in the US. Thanks in advance for your advice. Peace, Moonbaby |
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I would like to point out that AVALON does NOT advocate/encourage personal drug use by members. As a forum, we walk a very thin line with this thread because it can easily be misinterpreted that this site is 'endorsing' and encouraging the use of illegal substances. This thread will be kept open for now, ONLY if postings are kept as a 'survival' list for medicinal purpose. thanks for your understanding and cooperation! kate
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came from. Take the list and tell him you are going trekking out of country. If he won't help you find one that will. Another option is to go to Mexico where much of this is available OTC. Be mindful of frivolous use. There is a reason they are locked away like zoo animals, and watch your use-by dates for rotation |
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10-09-2008, 07:38 PM | #41 |
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With the PTw 'fretting' over the missing heroin...http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereport...ystery_of.html
And it being well known that many governments are 'holding' aerosolized opiates...http://www.rense.com/general26/psycho.htm For 'crowd control'...maybe it would be wise to have a small stash of Narcan (which is what the substance that stops OD's in Canada is called, it might be called something else, elsewhere) in case of our friendly guvmints spraying us like bugs (again) with aerosolized heroin... |
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Can anyone advise me of a broad spectrum antibiotic please
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i wished i listened to my grandmother now when i was a little girl, she knew all the herbs and wild flowers and leaves to use in medical emergencies!
get a good survival handbook at your local bookshop, the S.A.S survival guide is an excellant book and it is small so you could keep it in your pocket. Sorry i'm not much help, but one thing i do know i've got a big bush of St John's wort in my garden, this is for depression!!!! Well we will need plenty of that then lol!! I'll be bartering that lol! Sorry this is very important stuff i know, but joking now i have became all of a sudden in a silly mood. |
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A few things that come to mind of good general value (may be some duplicates in other posts) --
1. Baking soda - good any fungal anti microbial / alkalizing - useful in Hydrogen Generator 2. Tea Tree Oil -- any microbial 3. Oregano Oil - anti microbial 4. Citrus seed extract - anti microbial 5. Shovel 6. Axe, hatchet, machete, swords 7. Turmeric - anti microbial - liver support - milk weed - liver support 8. Bitter Melon (Kirala) - pancreas/spleen diabetes - immune boost 9. Gymnemia Sylvestra - pancreas/spleen diabetes - immune boost 10. Cinnamon - anti microbial - pancreas/spleen diabetes - immune boost 11. Ozone Generator (if you have electricity) 12. Hydroxy generator to extend gas mileage (up to 50%) in a vehicle or electric generator and also an a potentizer of water to strengthen the immune system. 13. Vitamin C - heart 14. Olive Oil 15. Ozinated Olive Oil 16. Ozone generator (if you have power) to sterilize water and ozinate Olive oil for skin problems. 17. Water Distiller (if you have power) 18. Magnetite soil / magnets to Potentize (magnetize water) for immune strength and find and gather iron from the soil. 19. Tarps, Rope, Knives, tent, blankets (wool, orgone, synthetics), compasses, maps 20. Wrist Rocket sling shot (defense) 21. Books on edible and medicinal local plants 22. Basic Chi-Kung books or knowledge - five organ breathing - fragrant chi-kung - energizing and balancing forms that work with nature. 23. Good hiking shoes and socks, clothes in general 24. Cotton sheets - clothing, bedding 25. Lighters, shaker flash lights, matches, crank lights, crank radios 26. Vacuum sealed foods. 27. Dried Sea greens - sea weed / kelp - high nutrition / low weight 28. Mung Beans - whole for sprouts, planting and consuming 29. Syringes - can be used to inject baking soda solutions to kill tumors / cancers. 29. pots / pans - cooking 30. Water filtration 31. Garlic is useful externally as antiseptic - not recommended for internal use 32. Electronic acupuncture devices and books on acupuncture / acupressure 33. Batteries, solar chargers |
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ppsshh, that ones such a no brainer!
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I'd like to recommend some nonconventional "medications" that might be quite good to have on hand:
Miracle Mineral Supplement. It supplies oxygen and makes the body environment inhospitable to pathogens. It is cheap and easy to have on hand. It could be used in any infection and has also been used in other situations, like Lyme Disease and cancer. Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C. High doses of vitamin C may help to combat overwhelming infections. One of the theories of Ebola is that it rapidly uses up the body's vitamin C. IV vitamin C in high doses is thought to be able to combat many things. Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C delivers the vitamin directly to the cell, bypassing the stomach and studies suggest that several grams of this can deliver more vitamin to the cells that 50 grams of IV. It stores well and is easy to take. Colloidal silver solution. It is easy to make. It keeps stored water fresh for quite a while. I use it to spray a couple of squirts in the kids water bottles and they don't go bad even if they get overlooked for a month. French Green Clay. It can be used for all kinds of things. Good French Green clay is almost 100% negatively charged and most toxins and pathogens are positively charged so that it acts like a magnet and carries the positively charged particles out of the body. It can be used as a nonspecific detoxifier. I think it would be a good idea to have several gallons of vodka because you can make tinctures of different plants. Even if you don't personally have knowledge of what plants to use, if you have the vodka you will attract the right person with the right information when you need it! Your intention of having something to offer will hook you up. You can always get some herb books and practice. I actually have all these things and dose my family (sometimes with reluctance on their part-MMS and sometimes with goodwill L-S Vitamine C and clay). Despite being a doctor, I have developed a huge distrust of all pharmaceuticals and am always on the lookout for other solutions. |
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You can't even ask for antibiotics without a doctor looking at you 1st. Where would you get all those drugs? |
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That is how you obtain the drugs. Explain to a sympathetic doc that you are going trekking in the hinterboonies and that you have the knowledge and the need for such a kit. Just what the doctor ordered if you are sailing for Tahiti on an extended cruise. Indeed, it may actually be skimping! I'd want injectable antibiotics and morphine along with a full kit for starting IV's....something a paramedic would call standard! An injury seven or eight days out would leave you hundreds of miles and days or even weeks from assistance. Exactly the scenario this thread is all about! Last edited by Baggywrinkle; 10-26-2008 at 04:46 AM. |
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in my first aid kit i have: Arnica, nux vomica,apis mel, rescue remedy, propolis, royal bee jelly, calendula, hypericum, aconite.....I keep them in the fridge. Namaste..!
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