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Old 02-10-2010, 07:55 AM   #1
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I'm a very big fan of Project Camelot, as seen in this brief fan video I made...

Project Camelot evolving our awareness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wurUcAxnr0

The reason for this post....

I recently read on Project Camelot's site that Kerry & bill were basically accused of being racist by a website called Eagle Disobey. Mainly because they (project Camelot) don't seem to have any (or enough?) black people interviewed on their website.

So I took the liberty of emailing an immediate response to the Eagle Disobey website and it's owners. I also emailed Project Camelot a copy of this same email as well. My main goal? To help all be more aware of the possibilities and solutions. Such as low frequency is nothing but low frequency continuation. I now realize that I was probably being low frequency when I created the email below.

Yes, I was still a little upset while creating the below email. So any misspellings or wrongful sentence structuring and you may contact my lawyer and complain about it, lol (kidding).
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Hello all,

This email concerns the so called race issue that your site is now posting 24/7.

Disclaimer: I do not represent Project Camelot in anyway, although I am a fan.

1) Just because the owners of your site claim not to be involved with such a slander doesn't mean that they are not. *Unless they take immediate action to remove the slander from their website. Or they ALLOW Project Camelot to comment, and then place those comments on their website as well.

2) Since Eagles Disobey website is still letting these comments about race remain on their site I would imagine that they would also immediately allow others to document their solutions concerning it all as well? Such as posting all of my comments that I have emailed to them here? If not then something is definitely wrong. Someone must have a hidden agenda against Project Camelot or is it something else? Why not talk about it all openly? Why continue the name calling or low frequency? Only low frequency being desire low frequency for our world!

3) To the folks whom have posted the remarks on the Eagle Disobey site, concerning the possibilities of Project Camelot being racist... "If it is so important to you that you must first attack people (what ever their race is) without looking over all possibilities, then it shows the world your true colors (no pun intended)."

For example, "Just what percentage of different races should Project Camelot being advertising in anyway?" How many more or less of any race should be interviewed on Project Camelot?? What percentage of such will "satisfy" you completely? Do you really think that your so called standard of race fairness is really showing us all just "how fair" that you're now truly being?

Another example, "If it is so important that race is the issue and not the people putting their lives in danger, those who allow Project Camelot to interview them... "Then why don't YOU offer free "DNA race testing" to all those interviewed by Project Camelot?" That way, you could tell which interviewed folks are really black and not white. If it is the percentages concerning who is what part of any race (that also bothers you) then DNA testing should help you as well. In all seriousness, this is but one possibility to help satisfy you.

4) Please not only consider the above possibilities but please open your minds and hearts to all known & unknown possibilities as well

5) Hopefully you are responsive to my comments as I am very open to any responses as well. If not then the true colors of Eagle Disobey are being shown to the world 24/7 as well

Yours truly,

Kevin Doyle

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That was the raw email I had sent today. If, in that email, I was wrong or did not clearly explain myself then it should also be very evident that I was very upset. If that is no excuse for me, I dunno. Next time, and hopefully there never will be a next time, I will take more time and effort to calm down and think about it before acting upon it.

Kevin
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:52 AM   #2
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I nearly posted a comment in agreement with the sentiment of your post that would have constituted an early invokation of Godwin's law, but managed to stop myself

Personally I don't have time for the EDO way of doing things and all thier strange talk and word use.

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Old 02-10-2010, 02:36 PM   #3
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I nearly posted a comment in agreement with the sentiment of your post that would have constituted an early invokation of Godwin's law, but managed to stop myself

Personally I don't have time for the EDO way of doing things and all thier strange talk and word use.

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Same here
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:59 PM   #4
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Here is another thread that was started on this:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19961
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:02 AM   #5
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"Eagles Disobey" is such a chinsy name in the first place. Dan Burisch is just making it up as he goes along anyway. Don't get me wrong, I have looked at all the PC - Burisch interviews and you know it's a fair amount of hours. And I would listen to him again if he had anything professional to display.
Accusations of racism? Oh yeah that's rich. Can someone please cut me a break here? IMO Dan Buricsh wants to be famous and sell books, CDs T shirts or whatever and without the PC format he may not be doing as well as he had hoped.
One thing that cracked me up is that Bill posted Pix of non white people over on the PC website. Hey I know its a touchy issue but don't let them bait you Bill! Everyone knows that you and Kerry are the opposite of racist.
Without Project Camelot , I don't think anyone would know who Dan Burisch is.
That being said, if he can't keep his own site in line regarding the people who gave him his shot. Well the whole thing is just silly.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:26 AM   #6
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The attacks started - after the Zurich conference I think it was - last July - and it was about Vaccinations.

Some of the people at the conference were anti-vaccine and yelling at Burisch - yelling because they didn't have a mic, and then there were accusations that he thought people were going to go violent on him.

Then Marci demanded for future conferences that there be security provided. Got no reply from Kerry, and so pulled out of future conferences and started the attack on Camelot, David Wilcock, etc.

Burisch is pro vaccine ( I saw something about monetary investments in vaccines) and produced a video with his mom saying how she had polio and how she made sure Dan had his vaccine. Dan and Marci made a big production over getting the seasonal flu and then the swine flu vaccines and grandstanding - look we didn't die, we are still alive.
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:53 AM   #7
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I saw what happened in Zurich.
That was really a shame.

But Burisch was always highly suspective for me. When I first saw him in the first Camelot interview, I never believed him, he sounded like a person who makes everything up.
Like a con man.

And then at the same time this claim to absoluteness...

And it really was outrages what he and his wife posted afterwards on their website about PC (publishing a private letter of Kerry with confidential content) and the smearing of David Wilcock, although I don't take him serious too.
But to smear him in that way Burish did was really disgusting.

Unfortunately at that time I wasn't able to post the Eagle Disopbey website's content immediately, but others did it for me.

So, the lesson is clear:
It's no loss that PC and Burisch go seperate ways now!

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Old 02-10-2010, 11:22 AM   #8
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Beware of Dan Burish and His Time-line Business!!
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:51 AM   #9
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eagles disobey need audience !!!!!!!!!!! i think we can stop this discussion ... Monique.
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:36 PM   #10
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eagles disobey need audience !!!!!!!!!!! i think we can stop this discussion ... Monique.
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Ok, the solution is stop reading the B.S. they post over there, problem solved.
I agree don`t give them any energy, What they say just tells me they need attention don`t give it to them
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:55 AM   #11
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That is absloutely disturbing video is it not? Not only does the content of the video bring into serious question the claims of Burisch but it also brings into question the judgement of an individual who would post such a video on the internet.
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I watched it....stopped in disbelief....walked around and figured it out

They are LARPing (Live Action Role Playing)

It's some fantasy game about aliens and intrigue.

Whew....and I thought...they thought it was real.....whew....load offa me.

Peace

Compare Marci in this video with the workshop video of Dan and Marci in Zurich. Do they seem to be the same person(ality)? Was I reading too many James Casbolt posts?
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Old 02-12-2010, 02:37 AM   #12
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Trained Observer:
Compare Marci in this video with the workshop video of Dan and Marci in Zurich. Do they seem to be the same person(ality)? Was I reading too many James Casbolt posts?
The answer may be something as simple as blood alcohol levels.

My main question about these two is what do they actually do for a living in Las Vegas? Are they Casino workers? The thing is they have they were exposed years ago by George Knapp and UFO Magazine so I doubt anyone has seriously investigated them since.

Ufology is in such a horrid state of affairs because people like this are tolerated and promoted by people who should know better.
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:55 PM   #13
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I agree don`t give them any energy, What they say just tells me they need attention don`t give it to them
The only energy they're worthy of from me is that they need to hire a web designer. That website is so 1996. I tend to think that people who can't design a professional website, are not to be taken seriously.

And yes, let's close the book on these troublemakers.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:52 AM   #14
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Dan seems like he is being manipulated.....he has a look like he has handlers.

(I'm working on my senses beyond the 5)

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Old 02-10-2010, 12:14 PM   #15
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How exactly, can the lack of african whistleblowers or any black persons on the PC front page, directly construe racism?

Totally ridiculous statements with an even more absurd implication.

Whilst coming from people who are promoting a government vaccine at the same time, guess it makes sense.
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Old 02-10-2010, 12:54 PM   #16
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Suggest we ignore anything from the Eagles Disobey web site and be wary of any information or claims they make including his interactions with the J-Rod.

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:19 PM   #17
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Dan Burisch is a professional disinformation artist working for the PTB. I stress artist because he is extremely good at it. In my point of view he went of the deep end with all of this accusations because he ran out of material.
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:55 PM   #18
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Dan Burisch is a professional disinformation artist working for the PTB. I stress artist because he is extremely good at it. In my point of view he went of the deep end with all of this accusations because he ran out of material.
Sometimes I do think we're dealing with real disinformation artists, but in the case of Burisch, I don't. Most likely a person just acting on his own whim, with his own agendas.

Often I think disinfo agents will offer some real information in combination with fake information as to remain as trustworthy as possible in the public eye, but Burisch only offers fake material, and his latest accusation and attack on Camelot would serve his alleged handlers nothing, if anything, and if he were a real disinfo agent, I think he would have been far more successful and influential if he maintained a strong relationship with PC. Afterall, infiltration is the name of the game and the style of real disinfo agents, but he hasn't followed any of that code, so I say he's just another loon and doesn't even deserve the title of a disinfo agent, that would be giving him far too much credit.
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Sometimes I do think we're dealing with real disinformation artists, but in the case of Burisch, I don't. Most likely a person just acting on his own whim, with his own agendas.

Often I think disinfo agents will offer some real information in combination with fake information as to remain as trustworthy as possible in the public eye, but Burisch only offers fake material, and his latest accusation and attack on Camelot would serve his alleged handlers nothing, if anything, and if he were a real disinfo agent, I think he would have been far more successful and influential if he maintained a strong relationship with PC. Afterall, infiltration is the name of the game and the style of real disinfo agents, but he hasn't followed any of that code, so I say he's just another loon and doesn't even deserve the title of a disinfo agent, that would be giving him far too much credit.
Majorion...I think you have it...When I said "handler"... I meant a child like man letting his wife tell him what to say and when to get there.

I believe his original intentions were "good" (and fabricated)....the wife whispers have driven him into the realm of WTF....
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Dan Burisch is a professional disinformation artist working for the PTB. I stress artist because he is extremely good at it. In my point of view he went of the deep end with all of this accusations because he ran out of material.
The possibility that you are correct in this assessment makes me think about Project Camelot's vetting process.

What is it?

What should it entail?
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:57 PM   #21
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The possibility that you are correct in this assessment makes me think about Project Camelot's vetting process.
What is it?
What should it entail?
Kerry described the vetting process in the interview on Veritas - anyone up for a making a transcript of it or finding out if Mel already has one?
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They actually do not have an SOP for vetting people. As far as what I have heard them say, they use mostly their own combined intuition to determine the credibility of an individual.
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:46 PM   #23
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There must be an immediate solution for all involved, as a whole and there always is.

Anyone here who accuses the Eagle Disobey website of anything, must also provide one or more immediate possible solutions. This especially includes me, myself and I.

If not then you may also have a hidden agenda as well. Or your simply conforming to how you believe our world should continue being (continue complaining with no or very little resolutions as a whole). Or maybe you just don't understand it all? Anything is possible, yes?

We all have lessons that we need to learn in life. I am learning one right now.. by watching & reading all the comments/replies and posts right here, right now. Also by who I am and what I am being and learning as well.

I also realize that there are Eagle Disobey fans on the AVALON forum as well. You know who you are, so don't hide it anymore, if that is what you've been doing here. It doesn't matter if your hidden or not and I am sorry for mentioning it.

Let's all just work together and stop the childish games from going any further PLEASE!!! I am willing to take the needed positive steps now and I invite all to do the same.

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Old 02-10-2010, 11:30 PM   #24
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Anyone here who accuses the Eagle Disobey website of anything, must also provide one or more immediate possible solutions. This especially includes me, myself and I. If not then you may also have a hidden agenda as well.
Ok, the solution is stop reading the B.S. they post over there, problem solved.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:22 AM   #25
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Ok, the solution is stop reading the B.S. they post over there, problem solved.
That was going to be one of my possible solutions as well and thanks for posting it. In many ways you are completely right. Why the heck should we all continue reading what the Eagle Disobey site is saying about PC anymore?? Who cares?

To be honest we all can only do so much to help others. For example if someone wants to drive drunk and they do it all the time you can only do so much to warn and stop them. This is because you have your own life to live. Of course you still care about that person being drunk while driving and for you to try and be around that person 24/7 in order to stop her or him from driving drunk is basically insane. Unless you actually have nothing else to do in life, then by all means please help that person to "get help" as well. But if that drunk doesn't want any help, then your plans to help have become more challenging. ***In no way am I saying that anyone from Eagle Disobey are drunks. Just making an observation equal to the challenges (ED remarks concerning PC) at hand here.

See my point concerning the (or some of the) folks of Eagle Disobey site? If they, for what ever reason(s) do not desire a whole solution (for all involved), then maybe that's all we all can do here?

They have not attempted any physical harm to Bill, Kerry or PC right? So it's "ok" for them to gossip about what ever they want concerning PC? (sigh) Yep... seems that maybe the case. We will know soon enough.

Maybe a good lawyer would know more concerning internet slander? Me personally, I would definitely look into it if it were me being attacked.

Then again... maybe I would just leave it all be. After all, why worry about what others say about you? When those you already know and love also already know who you really are. Who wants people of gossip being friend with them anyways? Your good quality friends are those who know more than just internet gossip about you, yes? So? Just how many real friends, supporters does PC have? LOL! Tons and Tons of'em and it's all good!

Then so be it : )
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