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Old 05-31-2009, 08:58 PM   #1
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Default Does Obama Use Neuro-Linguistic Programming Techniques in Speeches?

There is a 60 page document on the web that has been out there since before the 2008 Presidential election: "An Examination of Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches". The author is unknown. But the document is well-written in my opinion.

The document says that Obama's speeches contain the hypnosis techniques of Dr. Milton Erickson, M.D. who developed a form of "conversational" hypnosis that could be hidden in seemingly normal speech and used on patients without their knowledge for therapy purposes.

Here is a copy and paste of the techniques:

- Trance Inductions
- Hypnotic Anchoring
- Pacing and Leading
- Pacing, Distraction and Utilization
- Critical Factor Bypass
- Stacking Language Patterns
- Preprogrammed Response Adaptation
- Linking Statements/ Causality Bridges
- Secondary Hidden Meanings/Imbedded Suggestions
- Emotion Transfer
- Non-Dominant Hemisphere Programming

On page 5 the document states: "Almost nobody realizes what Obama is doing. These techniques are nearly impossible for an untrained person to detect. With the exception of a few trained experts in hypnosis, nobody understands even what to look for. It sounds in every way like ordinary powerful speech."

If you scroll through the document, you will see photos illustrating the assertions of this document.
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Old 05-31-2009, 11:38 PM   #2
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just as i suspected!! thanks so much for this post!
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Old 06-01-2009, 12:02 AM   #3
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I noticed the hypnotic quality of his speeches during the primaries and found myself just nodding off. Yes I think he does use these techniques. There's something strangely unemotional about him also that bothers me and leads me to think he's not what he appears to be. This goes far beyond the marketing of a candidate that we are all so familiar with.

I also noticed a major difference in him after his Intelligence briefing before he took office. This seemed more than the usual shock effect of being privy to the dark secrets. I don't know it's hard to explain but it's almost as if a different person emerged from that briefing.
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Old 06-01-2009, 12:51 AM   #4
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There is a 60 page document on the web that has been out there since before the 2008 Presidential election: "An Examination of Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches". The author is unknown. But the document is well-written in my opinion.

The document says that Obama's speeches contain the hypnosis techniques of Dr. Milton Erickson, M.D. who developed a form of "conversational" hypnosis that could be hidden in seemingly normal speech and used on patients without their knowledge for therapy purposes.

Here is a copy and paste of the techniques:

- Trance Inductions
- Hypnotic Anchoring
- Pacing and Leading
- Pacing, Distraction and Utilization
- Critical Factor Bypass
- Stacking Language Patterns
- Preprogrammed Response Adaptation
- Linking Statements/ Causality Bridges
- Secondary Hidden Meanings/Imbedded Suggestions
- Emotion Transfer
- Non-Dominant Hemisphere Programming

On page 5 the document states: "Almost nobody realizes what Obama is doing. These techniques are nearly impossible for an untrained person to detect. With the exception of a few trained experts in hypnosis, nobody understands even what to look for. It sounds in every way like ordinary powerful speech."

If you scroll through the document, you will see photos illustrating the assertions of this document.
Sounds like a bunch of bull ****.
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Old 06-01-2009, 03:46 AM   #5
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Sounds like a bunch of bull ****.
I dunno, maybe this explains why we have the totus! NLP is a skill which takes a good deal of training to master. If Obama is using this then he would have to stick to the script and thus his constant dependence on the teleprompter.

I think it is possible, but I am not an NLP expert. It's amazing to watch those who are and how they can make whole groups behave on cue based on 30 minutes of NLP.
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Old 06-01-2009, 09:37 AM   #6
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Sounds like a bunch of bull ****.
I dunno, I read the document back then and I though they were making a a pretty strong case.
Knowing these techniques makes a good CV for this job, to use them there or to get there is however completely illegal.
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Interesting...

Did it ever occur to any of you that this document in itself, is a good example of the use of NLP? In my view one especially constructed to make you beleive that Obama uses hypnosis and is "manipulating" his listeners in an evil way?

The opening page is hardly balanced

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Obama’s techniques are the height of deception and psychological manipulation, remaining hidden because
one must understand the science behind the language patterns in order to spot them. This document
examines Obama’s speeches word by word, hand gesture by hand gesture, tone, pauses, body language, and
proves his use of covert hypnosis intended only for licensed therapists on consenting patients. Obama’s
mesmerized, cult-like, grade-school-crush-like worship by millions is not because “Obama is the greatest
leader of a generation” who simply hasn’t accomplished anything, who magically “inspires” by giving
speeches. Obama is committing perhaps the biggest fraud and deception in American history.
This summary claim is not substantiated.

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The techniques used by Obama are the most deceptive forms of communication known to man. They
sideline rational judgment and implant subconscious commands that change how people feel and behave
without any awareness of the manipulation. Obama’s techniques overcome the will without convincing the
judgment through trickery. Obama often says one message that you are aware of, meanwhile implants a
different message hypnotically with double or hidden meanings. He conjures up emotions by talking about
your children, and JFK, and then is caught transferring those feelings onto him with hidden hand gestures.
He hides what he is doing and brazenly uses these techniques in front of millions of people over and over.
Once explained, Obama’s actions can be shown to be the height of manipulation and deception.
And nor is this one!

In my opinion Obama is a superb, and inspired, orator (and I use that word deliberately) who makes compelling, passionate and persuasive arguments in his speeches that allow his position to be considered, re-considered and followed by those whom he now leads:

THIS IS WHAT LEADERS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO!!

It sucks that his predecessor lowered the bar so much on that particular presidential quality that Obama's mastery is seen as modern witchcraft.

No offense to anyone here but please - have a critical rethink before going further down this path. Turn the BS filters up to the maximum! Not all efforts at persuasion are sophisticated mind control - any more than this post is ( )

Another quote from the paper - useful should anyone really try any of this BS on you...
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The only thing you need to do to break a negative hypnotic spell that has been cast on you is begin to think rationally, to begin
to think critically. And if you decide that you choose this message as one that’s good for you, by all means sit back, relax, and
enjoy the ride. But, if you decide that this is not something you want to have in your life, just simply analyze it, criticise it,
ridicule it, and say “Hey, that’s not how the world works.” And you’ll have protected your mind from taking on board something
which you really dont need.”
Amplify your powers of discrimination by invoking the power, light and wisdom of your higher self or if you prefer it the one infinite creator, or whatever spiritual guide you feel in tune with - they will all help if asked.


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Old 06-01-2009, 12:09 PM   #8
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This is my opinion for what its worth, and what i believe to be true after extensive research on the subject.

Obamas use of linguistics, body language and emotionaly charged speaches are far too reminiscent of technicues used in neuro linguistic programming to be merely a coincidence. Hitler had this down to a fine art, although with a slightly different approach.

Obama is not a great man as everyone 'hopes'. He is a very talented individiual who is privvy to information regarding social dynamics and mind control.

Anyone in a position of power who is offering 'hope' for a better future is merely offering something that is always out of hands reach. The people hear hope and then construct an image of that which represents hope to them. A fantasy. And unfortunatly that is why he is so popular.

Lets hope that more people dont get killed through war and violence.
Lets hope for a better future where 16,000 children dont die from hunger every day.

Hope is a fantasy, hope and faith have been used to control the population to this very day through religion.

Obama a saviour? umm, i dont think so.
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Interesting...

Did it ever occur to any of you that this document in itself, is a good example of the use of NLP? In my view one especially constructed to make you believe that Obama uses hypnosis and is "manipulating" his listeners in an evil way?
I saw it before the election and this is exactly what I thought...especially the way they hypnotically catch your eye at the top and bottom of each page with:

AN EXAMINATION OF OBAMA'S USE OF HIDDEN HYPNOSIS TECHINIQUES IN HIS SPEECHES

and:

EXPOSING OBAMA'S DECEPTION MAY BE THE ONLY WAY TO PROTECT DEMOCRACY

...in bold and larger type.

It is almost a strobe-like effect if you're scrolling through the document. That fact alone was enough for me to disregard the contents. I will not be manipulated like that in a supposed attempt to warn me of being manipulated.

Obama was a great salesman and what he sold was "hope", but I agree with Jack, hope is fantasy...a benign fantasy without the energy of transformation behind it. Somehow that spell is still on the liberal crowd who was most behind him, but I think his days of walking on water, even with them are numbered. Something real had better rain down from his cloud of hope or it's going to go badly for O.

It's particularly chilling to see how easily he's taken the reins of the US war machine, and his call to set up legal guidelines for "indefinite detention"...as if the only thing wrong with it was that Bush Co was operating outside of the "rule of law".

He stands to be a much better setup for PTB projects, a perceived good cop after the preceding bad cop regime. My only shred of "hope" is that underneath the programming he's received from his NWO dominated staff and advisers, there may be a real person who might, in a pinch, decide to do something right. And it's shred that's evaporating...

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Hi Sun-Toon.

With the power structure the way it is im thinking it would be almost impossible for anyone to step in and do the right thing even if they wanted to.

Ive been giving this subject a lot of thought lately, how society has organised itself into different castes each one cut off from the one beneath it and subordinate to the ones above it.

Politicians for example live in a political world. They work with other politicians and when they are not working they socialise within their given caste. To fight ones way up the ranks long enough to become president its extremely unlikely that the person will make it with their morals and scrupples still intact, and even if they do the risk against their family would be too much for them to deviate from current procedures and the agenda at hand.
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With the power structure the way it is im thinking it would be almost impossible for anyone to step in and do the right thing even if they wanted to.
I also wonder about them being the targets of specific mind control techniques...
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Politicians for example live in a political world. They work with other politicians and when they are not working they socialise within their given caste. To fight ones way up the ranks long enough to become president its extremely unlikely that the person will make it with their morals and scrupples still intact, and even if they do the risk against their family would be too much for them to deviate from current procedures and the agenda at hand.
Jack, I think you make a perfectly valid point, but does it factor in the extra dimension that we know about, which is that people can "awaken" to thier purpose at strategic moments?

I have lived "two lives" myself in the 45 years I have been here. For the first 22 I was a hard-core materialist - quite ready to be one of "Thatchers Storm Trooper Yuppies - Thatcher's Britain". I was materialist, ran my own business, had strong selfish tendencies, was reasonably effective in business and disturbingly ruthless at times. When I look back on some of those years I could see that I knew there was more to life but was ignoring it, and then a couple of years before I met my wife I started to change and shed some of those older behaviour patterns and ideals.

Knowing then in myself that this is possible, I am quite prepared to accept that Obama's higher self has timed/programmed his incarnational mission to sneak into position under the radar and awaken at the appropriate moment. I support all the light inspired work that he is here to do and wish him all the success possible.

I dont know about him selling "hope" - I thought it was change. No one here would disagree that change is necessary.

"We are the ones we have been waiting for", albeit borrowed, one of the great lines in his speeches.

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Knowning then in myself that this is possible, I am quite prepared to accept that Obama's higher self has timed/programmed his incarnational mission to sneak into position under the radar and awaken at the appropriate moment. I support all the light inspired work that he is here to do and wish him all the success possible.
It's entirely *possible* that he could arise to something a mite closer to his higher self, but I think you're way out on a limb in preparing yourself to expect such a move. All I meant was that he seems to be an actual human, maybe even one with a mammal's heart.
He does appear as if he's becoming more and more programmed and indoctrinated into the NWO paradigm. He's surrounded himself with Illuminati and zionist minions and apparently has bought into their world view...lock, stock and barrel. It didn't seem like this was the case before the election and it's disappointing as hell to see the scary hyperbole that conservative spin doctors invented about him becoming more of a reality every day.

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I dont know about him selling "hope" - I thought it was change. No one here would disagree that change is necessary.
Well, it was hope...the hope of change. If all it was about was change, we already have it. Unfortunately it's only a change from red to blue on a map, and a change to half a white guy in place of a blue blood. Now we have a president who can speak in complete sentences, and that should be refreshing, except for his superior ability sell more BS. He seems a little less environmentally unconscious, but IMO he's selling the lie of the threat of terrorism, the foundation of fear upon which the future prison planet is based, even more effectively than Bush.

He's only as smart as the people he listens to, and those are the representatives of the global elite. The worst information he seems to believe in is that the system is repairable...a total waste of time and energy when something new...some actual change needs to come about immediately, if not sooner.


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I also wonder about them being the targets of specific mind control techniques...
True enough...gawd knows how they might work on a US president, considering all the programming techniques being used on the public at large. There's also the tried and true method of filtering all his information until he sees only the picture he's supposed to....and if all else fails they'll show him a Kennedy assassination film from an angle that will never end up in the public domain.

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Do you really feel like you're getting this promised 'change' from the Obama administration. Let's put the fancy talk aside and look at what's actually being done:

1) More troops to afghanistan, increased war rhetoric with pakistan (including drone attacks), iran, north korea. Spending more money on the military than Bush did!

2) Massive printing of dollars and giving to the elite. Taking over American Car companies and giving them to european car companies (chrysler to fiat), closing down plants with the billions and encouraging cost cutting by moving production to china. Encouraging hyperinflation in the worst kind of way.

3) No investigations whatsoever into the corruption from the bush era, continued coverups. No releasing of torture pictures.

4) Closing down of gitmo trials even though they were being run by law in a public court. Excuse - we have to think about what to do with them. ie. stalling and keeping them imprisoned indefinitely.

5) Biggest deficit of all time in a time when the world is talking about dumping the USD as the world standard currency, way to help seal the deal. Literally destroying the economy. Nationalized car companies, some banks, what's next?

6) Getting people to focus on the outer hope and change that all they have to do is let this guy solve their problems for them and they don't have to really change themselves.... while the power elite continues, business as usual.

In my view, the real change that's necessary will come from the grass routes, from the people. It may be fair to consider that the media created the celebrity of Obama, but the revolution will not be televised. Although his speeches are great, what do you think 'thinktanks' are for? Who writes those speeches, I would gander to say not Obama!

P.S. - no offense if you are an obama fan, just my opinion here

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In my view, the real change that's necessary will come from the grass routes, from the people.
It's our only hope.
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An alternative, would be to completly ignore his speeches, forget worrying about if he can fix stuff or change the course of history either towards or away from a NWO and sort ourselves out instead. Obama by himself, cannot do much except act as a catalyst.

I am not persuaded by lists of apparently negative acts that are not counterbalanced by some of the good things he has done. Where is the detailing of him outing Cheney as one of the torture decision makers? Where is the detail of him wading in on the Israeli issues?

It's very easy to have and reinforce a polarised view of a thing such as this. In fact I think there is a case to be answered, that anyone who does that is unwittingly contributing to the problem.

I don't doubt that there is a very real risk that Obama can fail in any light based mission I may have assumed him to be on, and whether or not he does so is in fact largely up to us, (as is whatever happens).

Even if it turned out that I was hopelessly out in my belief, and it turned out that he was none other than an ET-genetically-engineered-spawn-of-Satan-NWO-programmed-life-form-manchurian-candidate-mkIII .... (pauses for breath) ... what he does with America and what he can do for the world is up to us. Repeat: IS UP TO US.

After all, like the poet said, we are the ones we've been waiting for!

All I want is a world where each person takes personal responsibility for thier thoughts actions words and deeds, where each person lives in harmony with themseves and each other self, and also with nature, the Earth, all her creatures and kingdoms - completely free from tyranny! Thats not too much to ask is it ?

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Obama is "none other than an ET-genetically-engineered-spawn-of-Satan-NWO-programmed-life-form-manchurian-candidate-mkIII" - NOW THAT'S A GOOD DESCRIPTION!

Hey, we're on the same page in what we're asking for here... now that being said, from my perspective what we do here is not about a celebrity president failing or not at saving our planet for us, but it is about us saving our world for us. We are the new people .

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It is amazing the way people take different kinds of disinformation about everything, ball it up, mead it, and write it down like some how it is true. It is like a bunch of kids playing with different colors of Play Doe, they get tired of it so they just put all of the Play Doe into one ball and think it is the greatest thing ever.
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It is amazing the way people take different kinds of disinformation about everything, ball it up, mead it, and write it down like some how it is true. It is like a bunch of kids playing with different colors of Play Doe, they get tired of it so they just put all of the Play Doe into one ball and think it is the greatest thing ever.
tone3jaguar...I think it would be more helpful if you spelled this out in specifics.
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tone3jaguar...I think it would be more helpful if you spelled this out in specifics.
He is just a good guy who is naturally calm at speaking and has walked into a hornets nest. None of the people who judge him have ever had to take on any where close to the level of responsibility and expectations that he has now. Moreover if they ever did they would probably crumble because they would obsess about how they are being judged by the world. It is a mind virus of our western culture to focus on other people and amplify their flaws so that people can feel better about the things they don't like about themselves.

The guy says inspirational things, then people are inspired. It is not complicated, it is not a conspiracy to control your mind. Why did he write checks that he has not cashed in yet? For f--ks sake people! He was handed the biggest cluster f--k of all time and has handled it graciously, and kept his cool.

Another aspect of the smear Obama movement that is a amazing to me is how gullible the people swept up in it have become. In one breath they will say "The Media Lies to Us, errrrr" Then in the next breath they will judge someone based off of a conglomeration of what they have seen in the media? So the media is lieing, but we are basing our opinions on it?

People need to pull their heads out of their asses and stop pointing fingers at others and saying "So and so is responsible for my situation". They all need to wake the f--k up and realize that they are 100% responsible for everything that they attract into their reality weather it is pleasant or not.
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I never would have guessed that was what you were saying, so I'm glad I asked.
I'm in no way into smearing him, I just see that most everything he's done has been to fully support the NWO agenda. The bank bailout, his continuation of the phony war or terror, and what seems to be support for more undermining of constitutional liberties, in particular.
He may be a nice guy, he may have a good heart, but those attributes need to be employed or they're worth nothing. Maybe he's working some angle that hasn't become visible. That would be great and I'll concede the possibility.

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People need to pull their heads out of their asses and stop pointing fingers at others and saying "So and so is responsible for my situation". They all need to wake the f--k up and realize that they are 100% responsible for everything that they attract into their reality weather it is pleasant or not.
IMO this is flatly not true. No one is 100% responsible for reality. It's a co-creative process, and everyone contributes their bit of vision and energy to it. I refuse to be held responsible for events which are totally beyond my control, nor would I pin that on you, Obama, or anyone else. It takes the entire universe to manifest the universe.
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sun-toon, it was not directed at you or any one individual in this thread, it was a general statement
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sun-toon, it was not directed at you or any one individual in this thread, it was a general statement
Sorry, if I came on too strong, I just can't wrap my mind around the "we create our own reality" paradigm. It makes no sense to me, but it's everywhere these days and seems to be accepted without question in these kinds of venues. In a sense there is something to it, as we are the ocean contained within the drop, at the same time as we're also a drop of the ocean.

But it always sounds like a blaming of the victim to me. When reality manifestation doesn't work right, which is usually, it's because we didn't work the process correctly...our fault. Sometimes maybe, but you can't blame a child for manifesting his own murder (as an extreme example). We can have an affect, but I can't see how it's not a balance of creative energies that generates reality.

Alright, this is off topic. To get back on, it's not O's fault what he inherited, but it becomes more his doing everyday where it goes from here.
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Alright, this is off topic. To get back on, it's not O's fault what he inherited, but it becomes more his doing everyday where it goes from here.
I don't think he has much control over where it goes from here. (I think he is a puppet.)

Unless a miracle happens...

Maybe if we all send him thoughts of unconditional love, we could do some good...

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Old 06-03-2009, 12:50 AM   #25
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Default Re: Does Obama Use Neuro-Linguistic Programming Techniques in Speeches?

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I just can't wrap my mind around the "we create our own reality" paradigm.
Well as far as Obama, The Illuminati, The NWO, and the rest of them go they are archetypal manifestations of the consciousness of society. Our consciousnesses are responsible for which archetypal manifestations show up based off of what we need to learn and came here to learn. That is what I mean by we are responsible for the things we manifest into our reality.
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