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Old 01-16-2010, 03:49 AM   #51
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Obama may very well have been chipped, and I'm very serious when I write that.
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Old 01-16-2010, 08:56 AM   #52
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Funny you don't seem to have a problem with sucha fools article here but when put on my thread not even worth considering wow .......all I can say is wow
I didn't think articles by her were even worth considering
Just an observation not a judgement.

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor View Post
What he's doing is very risky and dangerous. However, we must put aside our petty cold war feuds of the past 50 years and move forward.

Something tells me that the CIA doesn't want to let go of the past. However, we MUST do so.

It could have been anyone who decided to rebel against their masters but it just happens to be Obama.


And to those who try to paint Obama as the anti-christ, we already have one on our hands: George H.W Bush.

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Old 01-25-2010, 02:48 AM   #53
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Originally Posted by Fredkc View Post
We CAN'T be broke!! The printing presse4s are still running!

As long as America has trees, to turn into paper...

"I can't be out of money. I still have checks left!"
Actually the greenback in made from cotton not trees

Well it has been 1 Year now since Obama has been in office. Jan 20 was his inauguration back in 2009.

I know a lot of people have been sitting on the fence as to whether his polarity sits more between the light or dark side. A common response was 'Lets first see what his presidential decisions/actions/promises are before making any judgements of character'. I think a year in office is a good starting ground. Shall we review.

OBama's first year in office -


Today's headline Jan 25 2010 "LAST Friday was the deadline for closure of the Guantanamo Bay detention facility. Did you miss it? So did the Obama administration".

Obama sends 30000 more troops to Afghanistan

Obama wants $33 billion more for wars


Remember this speech from Obama
'"I pledge to you that under my plan, no one making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not income tax, not capital gains taxes, not any kind of tax,"

Obama's Cap and Trade tax

Who Pays for Cap and Trade?

Obama Considers Middle Class Tax Hikes for Healthcare, "Cap and Trade"

Unemployment rates now in double figures as of Nov 09' US rate - 10.00%
State by state breakdown:
Dec 09' US rate remains at 10%

US public debt has risen from $10.6 Trillion on 20 Jan 09 to $12.2 trillion 7 Jan 10

Health care

Health Care Reform To Be Long Road For Uninsured In America

What the Liberal Media Aren't Telling You About Obama's Healthcare Plans

What's Really in Obama's Health Care Reform Bill - A Plain English Translation


Obama's Approval Ratings as President-Elect Jan 21 2009
Total Approve 65% Total Disapprove 30%

As of Jan 9 2010
Total Approve 46% Total Disapprove 53%


The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises

FLASHBACK: Obama Promised To End ‘Secret Meetings’ And Make The White House The ‘People’s House’

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Old 01-25-2010, 03:46 AM   #54
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I'm not a fan of anything he has done thus far. If they are able to pull this system off past 2012, life here is going to get very, very ugly.

The only way I see that Obama could be working for us is if he is here to maintain the status quo so we can ascend by 2012. Originally, I thought this was a very remote possibility and still would not justifying continuing and starting new wars in the Middle East, devaluing the dollar, and well I could write a 10-page essay on all of his actions that are anti-liberty and that will take us down the same road the former USSR was on, but...

I see signs that we may be ascending. No, these aren't faux green shoots. Some other people here have mentioned it as well. I'm keeping my mind open, yet at the same time I can't say I approve of any of the individual things he has done.

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Old 01-25-2010, 04:57 AM   #55
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No doubt he is a "puppet" I seriously doubt he would have had the opportunity to to get his job if he weren't working for "them".

Now if he found an opportunity to do something for the light that was outside of his curriculum and chose or planned on acting upon it, he would end up like kennedy. Or would they clone him and use his clone as the puppet?
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Old 01-25-2010, 08:11 PM   #56
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Is he a puppet?? Or is he working for the Light?

Found this article ... but not sure ...
Obama Warned By CIA, “Surrender Or Join Kennedy”

Russian Intelligence Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin today that President Obama has been given an ultimatum by his own Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to “surrender immediately or join Kennedy” over the American leaders plan to destroy that agencies power over his country “once and for all”.

According to these reports, former CIA Director and US President George H. W. Bush, along with 7 other former CIA chiefs, presented Obama with their ultimatum ahead of this weeks crucial United Nations and Pittsburgh G-20 meetings of World leaders where Obama is expected to break with the New World Order factions that have devastated his country and realign the United States into the ‘orbit’ of the Russian Motherland who has fought these monsters for decades.

further reading...

Also found this and if this is true... then perhaps he is trying to do the right thing?? ...
"Barack Obama has demanded the Pentagon conduct a radical review of US nuclear weapons doctrine to prepare the way for deep cuts in the country's arsenal, the Guardian can reveal."

further reading...

Careful on what you get from Russian media. They are not an independent source either. Russia is currently engaged in a campaign to bring civil unrest to America.

We are already in the 3rd world war. It has already begun...matter of fact we have been in it for some time now.

Though many people would like to have the public believe we are in a religious war nothing can be further from the truth. We are in a war for resources. All wars have always been for resources. Even ww2 was for resources. The primary resource is oil.

When you think of everything we use oil products for the realization that with no oil or limited oil our way of life would cease to exist hits your square in the face.

Russia also wants oil as does China. The middle east provides 70% of the world's oil. Iran provides 68% of that.

There is a oil filed of interest to Russia in the Caspian sea basin. This oil field needs to be tapped and transported over land, through AFGHANISTAN and into a harbor for loading on barges.

back in the 80's Russia tried to build that pipeline but was stopped by a group of citizen fighters backed and founded by the CIA as well as the Bin Ladin family of the middle east. They were later named Al-Queada by the FBI during the first bombing trail of the WTC.

That same route for the pipeline is where 7 USA bases are being constructed as we speak in Afghanistan now. The war on terror is nothing more than a cover for a war for oil. it's much easier to sell a war for oil if people think it's a religious war.

Russia knows they can get the field and pipeline back if the USA pulls out the troops. Not gonna happen under current conditions. But if they can create enough civil unrest where the government has to focus else where they might get it back.

Russia's ultimate goal is to create a civil war in the USA. This would force our troops home to fight us and leave the oil fields unprotected. Another goal would be to make other fronts, to bleed us dry through military spending.

Everything is resource motivated. Russia wants that pipeline back and will do whatever it takes to get it. Meanwhile our troops think they are fighting terrorist but in reality are babysitting oil pipelines.

Beware Russia propaganda can be just as dangerous as our own.
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:21 PM   #57
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Though many people would like to have the public believe we are in a religious war nothing can be further from the truth. We are in a war for resources. All wars have always been for resources. Even ww2 was for resources. The primary resource is oil.
I disagree with that. I'm leaning to the high probability we Humans are the resource. Wars are the weapon used to keep us in a scarcity mind-set, v's-a-v an abundance paradigm, which is the reality.

There is technology and endless research proving free endless unlimited energy is available, but for the political will to implement it.

Religion is a tool used to keep the division going, just like countries and nations, anything to stop men and women from realising and knowing we live on one planet and it is home to us all. It is also the only home we've got.

There have been great questions and answers in this thread.

One interesting suggestion is about Obama's possible assassination.
I wonder how that would go down with the american people, and the world. Could they get away with that today? It might cause a huge backlash against the puppet masters.

I supose they could use various character assassinations not least his alleged non-american status.

I would guess if he was working for the light (we all know that means the Masonic-Vatican-man-bitch light of Lucifer, out of the secret demonic society's) now would be his best opportunity to make a jump and stick it to his controllers, at least if he were to be killed, his soul would get to see a revolution ignight, which could and most likely would free the planet.
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:26 PM   #58
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Russia is currently engaged in a campaign to bring civil unrest to America.
I believe the US is doing a fine job of trying to achieve this on its own no help from Russia is required
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Old 01-25-2010, 11:38 PM   #59
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For Americans primarily...
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:02 AM   #60
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When you see how difficult it is for Obama to reform Health Care, & the way he's still pushing that bill, I think he deserves respect.

On the other hand, he didn't revoke the Patriot Act, etc, etc.

But at least he's fluent in his own language.
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Old 01-26-2010, 10:38 AM   #61
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Originally Posted by housemouse2 View Post
Careful on what you get from Russian media. They are not an independent source either. Russia is currently engaged in a campaign to bring civil unrest to America.
Beware Russia propaganda can be just as dangerous as our own.
Hey housemouse I am aware of the propaganda game as most here are...

Everyone plays the game...

I try really hard with Obama but it seems the more research I do, I uncover more bad than good...hey please if there is anyone out there that can shed some positive light on him please share...

found this on my travels...

The POTUSA (President of the United States of America) at Ft. Hood, Texas on Nov. 11, 2009... "Honoring" the 13 dead, Obama refuses to salute, come to attention, or even place his hand on his heart as the honor guard passes at the Memorial Service for those killed by a fellow Muslim terrorist at Fort Hood. !!

???? What was that about???

The accumulated weight of Obama’s deceit is overwhelming:

* During his campaign for the presidency and since, Obama repeatedly assured us that he would protect Medicare against cuts; but he now presses for passage of bills that include savage cuts in Medicare.

* To obtain passage of his first stimulus bill, Obama assured us that 90% of the jobs created would be in the private sector; but as he well knew, most of them were to be in the public sector.

* Early in the health care debate, Obama assured us that he had not said that he favored a single payer system; but he was on record as having said exactly that.

* Obama gave primary voters a firm assurance that if he became the nominee of the Democratic party he would (unlike Hillary Clinton) abide by the campaign finance limits of public funding; but as soon as he became the party’s nominee, he reneged on that pledge.

* During the presidential campaign Obama criticized the presence of former lobbyists in the Bush administration and solemnly assured us that he would appoint no lobbyists to his administration; but once elected he proceeded to appoint even more lobbyists than his predecessors.

* Obama criticized the size of George Bush’s deficit and promised to stop deficit spending if elected; but he has already quadrupled the size of the deficit he objected to and recklessly continues new federal spending in the trillions.

* When campaigning Obama criticized bills before the congress that were too long for anyone to be able to read and promised to stop that; but the bills he has been backing throughout his first year are infinitely longer (2000+ pages) than the ones he criticized.

* Candidate Obama promised an end to the corruption of earmarks and pork, but in the bills he has supported this year there have been more and bigger earmarks than ever before.

* Candidate Obama promised us that CIA personnel involved in the interrogation of terrorists would not be prosecuted; but his administration is now doing exactly that.

* Obama assured a joint session of Congress that the health bill he supported (pre-Stupak) would not provide public funding for abortions; but bitter resistance on the part of House Democrats to inclusion of language to that effect soon proved that it did.

* Candidate Obama promised that he would make sure that there was always enough time for the public to read legislation before it was enacted; but he has done exactly the opposite, repeatedly pressing for even faster passage of even longer bills.

* Candidate Obama met fears that he would be a tax and spend liberal by promising, emphatically and repeatedly, that those earning under $200,000 would see no increase in their taxes of any kind; but he now urges passage of a healthcare bill that breaks that pledge in many different ways, and his unrestrained increase in federal spending makes more tax increases inevitable.

* Candidate Obama promised bipartisanship and an end to partisan bickering; but in a display of especially ruthless partisanship his allies have shut Republicans out of all key meetings on his health care initiative, with the unprecedented result that domestic legislation of historic importance garnered not a single Republican vote in the Senate.

* Candidate Obama criticized his opponent’s plan to tax employer paid healthcare benefits, and promised he would not tax them; but the bill he now backs will do just that.

* Obama had promised that he would not sign a healthcare bill that would add one dime to the federal deficit; but the bill he now backs adds trillions in new federal spending, offset only by new sources of revenue that are both uncertain and more properly seen as offsetting the already existing deficit.

* Obama coerced congress into passing his stimulus bill by promising that if it were passed unemployment could go no higher then 8%; but unemployment is now at 10%, and he could not possibly have had good reason to exclude that possibility.

* Obama promised that his cap and trade legislation will create jobs; but its massive tax increases will certainly hobble the economy and destroy jobs, while green jobs in significant numbers can at best be hoped for, but never promised.

* Obama has repeatedly assured the American people that if they like their current health plan they can keep it; but the House bill which he supported created huge incentives for employers to drop their coverage and shift their members to a public option.

* Obama has just as often assured the public that under his health plan everyone will be able to keep their current doctor; but many are certain to lose their doctors when ObamaCare’s large cuts in Medicare funding induce more doctors to withdraw from Medicare coverage, as they also would were employers to transfer patients to a public option to save money.

* Obama assured a joint session of Congress that his health plan would not fund illegal aliens; but his allies had been busy voting down amendments to that effect. (This was the point of Joe Wilson’s outburst.)

* Obama claimed that Caterpillar’s CEO had told him that Caterpillar would begin hiring again as a result of the stimulus bill; but that individual immediately announced that he had said no such thing, and that Caterpillar would in fact be laying off more workers.

* Candidate Obama promised that Guantanamo would be closed by January 1, 2010; but it is still open.

* Candidate Obama promised that his administration (unlike his predecessor’s) would be so transparent that TV cameras (C-Span) would be there for key deliberations; but an unprecedented level of secrecy prevails as the final stages of Obamacare are negotiated behind closed doors and kept so secret that even the Senate majority whip admitted that he had no idea what was going on. Requests for Obama to honor the promise of C-Span cameras are being ignored.

* To gain traction for his attempt to return a would-be socialist dictator in Honduras to power, Obama claimed that he had been overthrown in an illegal coup; but the congressional research service pointed out correctly that ex-President Zelaya had been removed for constitutionally sufficient cause by legal and constitutional means.

* Obama claims that he wants a public option only to increase choice and competition; but the House bill would clearly reduce choice both by squeezing unsubsidized private health plans out of the market, and by setting rigid conditions on acceptable plans that would narrow available options.

* Candidate Obama claimed that violent radical Bill Ayers was just another guy in his neighborhood; but the record shows that the two had worked closely together.

* Obama assured us that his stimulus bill would create or save a million jobs; but he was claiming as fact what could never have been more than a wild (and highly improbable) guess, and his more recent attempts to justify that guess have been fraudulent.

* Obama assured us that his health plan would never ration care, or “pull the plug” on grandma; but the legislation he backs sets up panels to make crucial decisions on when to withhold care, and it makes such deep cuts in Medicare that rationing is inevitable.

* Obama now assures us that health insurance premiums will not go up if ObamaCare becomes law, insisting indignantly that people who say this have not read the bill; but the legislation forces insurers to cover preexisting conditions, which will compel them to raise premiums substantially.

Hey, perhaps he will change... I'm still waiting and praying...

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