SNOW CIRCLES ...instead of CROP CIRCLES

[371]

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[TRANCOSO]

Sorry, I misspelled the 'l'
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...ield2009b.html should do the trick.

[371]

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[TRANCOSO]

Try again

[371]

Ok, right pic this time. Cool.

Disregard all info on that site though. It is BS.

[Soulcrafter]

What happened to his thread?
All i see is "." & "try again" and other off topic posts.
I guess this is the end of the discussion then.
You guys certainly know how to hijack threads with discussions you don't seem to like. Not a nice to do isn't it?
I rest my case, i don't see the point in replying anymore in this thread.

[Boober]

Snow crop circles huh. Is this a new phenomenon? They seem kind of sloppy , but I dont see any tracks.

[THE eXchanger]

Comments by Colin Andrews
From the Andrews Archives
Dec 22, 2009.

The report above states that this is the "Biggest snow circle ever" - actually this is
not true. The largest was reported and photographed outside MIT in Boston.
Hundreds of circles and rings along with appendages were witnessed by many
people including students in the MIT buildings. The designs stretched over a
quarter mile across the Charles River and were formed in a light snow cover which
had fallen on the frozen river. I have photographs in the library.

There are seven other snow circle reports covering the years 1996-7-8 and 2003
and reported in The Netherlands, USA, Germany, USA, England and Afghanistan.

It is often difficult to be sure if snow circles are the same phenomenon as crop
circles. Sometimes they are melted, other times not but in this recent case one
can see striking similarities by design and even concentric rings normally
associated with the so called stomping boards used by people who make many of
them.

This is another very important case involving the alleged medium Robbert van den
Broeke. This young man has frequently claimed to be aware a crop circle is going
to form or a UFO is going to show up and they have done. In all these cases there
is no half way conclusion. He is either a very important witness or his claims and
the events that occur around him are deceptions - one might say also modern
magic. UFO researcher Nancy Tabott of BLT has publicly stated she believes he
is genuine.

http://www.colinandrews.net/SnowCirc...lands2009.html

new report, will be up
on the original site - within days

we just got told to detail our findings,
and, they will connect it,
to their findings

[TRANCOSO]

I rest my case, i don't see the point in replying anymore in this thread.

[THE eXchanger]

They asked me to wait,
til they put out their report,
so, i have all the measurement sizes, etc.,
and, they granted me access to the photographs, too
they are going at it, from a technical standpoint,
where, my take on it, is spiritual/and, technical
(i discovered something else by waiting,
and, discovered an infinite loop in it)
and, it relates to an important stone on earth
i will create mine, in a youtube video

[Boober]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

They asked me to wait,
til they put out their report,
so, i have all the measurement sizes, etc.,
and, they granted me access to the photographs, too
they are going at it, from a technical standpoint,
where, my take on it, is spiritual/and, technical
(i discovered something else by waiting,
and, discovered an infinite loop in it)
and, it relates to an important stone on earth
i will create mine, in a youtube video

that sounds really cool, give us a link when you do

[THE eXchanger]

part of the 9D earth world, is in the hollow part,
hmmm~ The Road to Agartha,
it leads to The Grand Central Sun, of earth

The largest circle at the top
and, the smallest circle at the bottom
are, the separation of
THE ORiGiNAL SPARK
(along with 12 other aspects)
does NOT the alchemical sign of the run
have a round circle with a dot, in the centre
for the sol or sun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemical_symbol

it is a good idea, to acquaint yourself with these symbols

[truthseekers]

So, here's the BET. Your SOUL is on the Line HERE. You have to prove, some how that you know who and why these C.C. are made. You have 24 hours. Then I WILL SHOW YOU who made them and why. MY prize is your SOUL.
OR, simply bow out. The choice is yours. Write down what your choice is.

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

That's pretty ridiculous. Besides no one is going to admit to committing the crime of creating an illegal crop circle.

This is very silly. Besides we often have people freak out at us and DEMAND in shouty screamy we are going to hit you in the face with a cricket bat type ways that MUST SHOW and WILL COMPLY and it seems as I have tried to say many times before that when you say your a circlemaker you get reactions like this.

People hate circlemakers. Its that simple. All we are seeing here is a direct classic - i repeat classic- example of how people get over zealous on this subject. People always try to get us to admit to doing certain circles. Why because they want to report us to the police. The one and only time I trusted people like this was the one and only time I got arrested.

People who believe crop circles are made by Aliens are basically quite uninformed and I would stretch to even being rude by saying dumb. So what happens when you trust a dumb person with anything, they either screw it up or they cant keep secrets for sure. How do dumb people act, well usually when they dont get their own way they freak out and start flailing their arms, punching each other and basically acting up in any way possible.

This is one reason i dont watch soap operas like Eastenders that we get in the UK. Its all based on negative/bad behaviour where hes jealous of her, blam blam blam, screams shouts tantrums. People get like this over crop circles trust me. When I start to see this behaviour rearing its ugly head it just makes me want to stick my head im my hands. Its quite depressing really because its such a typical form of behaviour and ive witnessed it so many times regarding this subject.

What is basically boils down to is people with no knowledge of a subject apart from a misinformed opinion laying the law down on what is and what is not with those people who actually do know a lot about a subject. Fascistic I call it. It is not based on what is true or right but who can shout louder and be the bigger bully.

Ive met people who claim to be love and light and when it comes to circlemakers say they want us dead! Really!!!!!

People who claim to be interested in truth and want answers and are open midned are sometimes the very same people who cannot take the truth and are very closed minded and nasty.

This is why I say to people if you really want to learn the truth about the way the paranormal subjects work make some crop circles, fold your arms, keep your mouth shut and then see what happens. Then when you know the truth... start telling people you made circles and see how people turn on you. It can teach everyone a lot about how this subject works.

Now stating this as a fact will undoubtedly make some people angry and this is what gets people into defensive camps which become entrenched so that people just dont want to listen any more.

Welcome to the real world of crop circles. Thats all I can say.

[truthseekers]

Originally Posted by trainedobserver

That's pretty ridiculous. Besides no one is going to admit to committing the crime of creating an illegal crop circle.

Originally Posted by 371

Pretty simple answer when no MAN made those.

No one had the balls to take her up on her challenge, anyway.



Just stop, please. End this here with me, and let it go.

I tried hard for years to educate the researchers that men were making circles. They wouldnt listen. I started taking people out and also the final thing was going to be an experiment whereby we would make a circle and people who said they would keep it secret would help verfiy we had given them details later they just thought it better to inform the police and have us arrested. Rubbish out the experiment and screw us all to the wall. If it was legal to stone us we would probably be dead right now! Thats why people make circles in secret because people with close minds just dont get it and get very upset when they find out the truth.

Lets stone Santa Claus too and the Easter Bunny and whos that Jesus fellow. Do you understand where I am coming from? People who demand circlemakers own up arent enjoying the circles anymore, arent looking at the wonder they bring and are just obsessing on vengeance against human circlemakers... which to me seem to be missing the point.

Why should we be interested in a challenge from people from the internet anyhow. Its like people are so self obsessed and self important that they feel that a few idle words typed into a keyboard are going to make all circlemakers in wintertime spring out of the woodwork and into action to rise to a challenge based upon what... who is this person making the challenge... how many circles have they visited and researched. What is their real researcher name and do I know them and will the challnge set be a fair one and double blind test procedures involved to make it a real test of the researchers ability to tell a real crop circle as well as our ability to make them?

The point is that whereas we are real circlemakers and we have done a lot of work to get to that point, sorry to be blunt about this but **who are you**. If you are serious about a challenge and want to do it correctly then you should be thinking about putting up some money to pay a farmer for the use of a field in the summer. It costs about £500 and we will need independent referees to keep the details of which field will be hired secret and to hold details of the circle we create to be revealled later on.

I have accepted many challenges over the years already, I dont need to hear people go "you prove nothing I challenge you." Been there done it flown around the world to do it, got the T shirt. What is actually different about your challenge. Which aspects of **can we make circles** is it going to change?

This is usually just about the point where people so really quiet... because they arent going to pay money to be part of a real experiment. They just want to sound big and clever and get us to admit to which illegal circles we created so they can report this to Nancy Talbott and co or some other nutters out there and try to get some police activity.

Anyhow I think you get the point. Lets see if people can put their money where their mouths are. Ive been doing this 20 years any nobody from the internet has ever come back to me on this. I am not expecting any change to that now. Surprise me though ;-) Please...

[truthseekers]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

part of the 9D earth world, is in the hollow part,
hmmm~ The Road to Agartha,
it leads to The Grand Central Sun, of earth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemical_symbol

it is a good idea, to acquaint yourself with these symbols

Sorry Exchanger I dont believe in a hollow earth. Im happy you do though. Is this really what you think though?

If something like that were to exist then it must be in a different dimension of reality.

[Soulcrafter]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

This is another very important case involving the alleged medium Robbert van den
Broeke. This young man has frequently claimed to be aware a crop circle is going
to form or a UFO is going to show up and they have done. In all these cases there
is no half way conclusion. He is either a very important witness or his claims and
the events that occur around him are deceptions - one might say also modern
magic.

Yes they are deceptions. Colin A. will put up the whole report soon with all the evidence of his frauds and fake ufo-alien-mudmen-ghost photography.

[TRANCOSO]

It would be nice if 'The Circlemaker(s)' could show us an image of a formation they're going to produce in the first week of June 2010, somewhere in Wiltshire. In that case we know on June 8, 2010, if their claims are true or false.

Truthseekers, I quote myself here.
I think it's a fair request

Never in the past 15 years have they been 'caught in the act', betrayed by jealous colleagues or otherwise exposed as the driving force behind this mystery. Also, the $ 1.000.000 (one million!) reward by a Rockefeller Foundation, for anybody who is able to produce or copy a complex crop formation, in the middle of a pitchblack night, within a timeframe of 1 hour, is still available. I find that remarkable, to say the least, but perhaps the Lords of the Circles are a bunch of (bored) rich kids to whom a million $ is small change.

I'm more skeptic about the claim crop circles are manmade, then that they are made by aliens. There is little proof for both options, though. And please don't bore me with those YouTube vids where you see a couple of guys in a grainfield, because that's as convincing as Obama telling the world he wishes to reduce nuclear arms.

Last summer there was a HUGE manmade formation constructed in Holland ('The Catterpillar').
It took 80 people 2 days to make it.

[Soulcrafter]

a song comes to my mind when i read Trancoso's posts.

Turn around
Look at what you see
In her face
The mirror of your dreams
Make believe I'm everywhere
Given in the light
Written on the pages
Is the answer to a never ending story...

There is little proof for both options, though

Why don't you keep an open mind then....

And please don't bore me

If something is boring it must be your replies.

Last summer there was a HUGE manmade formation constructed in Holland ('The Catterpillar').
It took 80 people 2 days to make it.

Circles have been made over 3 nights, so what's the point?
Criticising without understanding, that's what i call it

[TRANCOSO]

Circles have been made over 3 nights, so what's the point?

'The Catterpillar' was made by 80 people!!!

If something is boring it must be your replies.

Criticising without understanding, that's what i call it

[Soulcrafter]

And then when you don't have something decent to reply you start acting like a 5 year old.

[THE eXchanger]

in Atlantis, in the 1st grand cycle
we took communication through crystals
in the crystal cave

today, that type of communication is NOT possible that way

there is NO doubt,
some of the crop circles,
were made by people,
however, even those who made them
utilised sacred geometry/symbols & mostly relations

surprisingly, most creative people
do NOT operate alone,
NOY just under their own power,
but, they open gates/or portals within themselves
and, allow in discarnate souls
who might be task companions (tc)
or essence twins (et)
or, even a TRAVC-a travelling companion,
which is a soul from another entity group,
within your own cadre, but NOT the same entity group,
that you belong too

and, they paint together

which eXplains, oft times
why a painter creates a master_piece
and, yet, he can NOT do the same type of piece twice

and/or a child - who just automatically can play a soph. piece of music

and/or a child - who can sing, yet most kids their age do NOT
have vocal chords developed enough, to do it, yet they do

as, a child, apparently i could sing, and,
people would say, she sings like an angel
(so, who did i allow in, to sing through me ???)

it is always through the eXpression of an artisan
in role, in essence, and/or through the artisans they allow
to come in, and, to work through

we are much more 'spirited',
than, most of us, likely know

so many symbols, have had their force/and, their power inverted

however, 80% of the communication done in this world,
is NOT done, through the power of fingertips,
nor, through the medium of voice

it is the seen/and, the unseen /or the missed !

just cause you don't see something, does NOT mean, that it isn't there

or, that someone, can see things, others miss !!!

[TRANCOSO]

... you start acting like a 5 year old

Excuse me?
I AM a 5 year old!

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

Excuse me?
I AM a 5 year old!

me too

[Soulcrafter]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

me too

It shows for you both.

[sunny D]

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

Last summer there was a HUGE manmade formation constructed in Holland ('The Catterpillar').
It took 80 people 2 days to make it.

IMHO it was made over night with 54 people for sure, echt helemaal waar....