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By the way, slapping the Muslim label on Turks is very very ignorant. There are now investigations for the Khazar Turks who became Jews long before the times this document was written. Original Turks practiced shamanism before and even some during the Ottoman Empire's reign. There are satanists called Yezidis, Orthodox Christians and many other religious aims. A Turk is a muslim who follows "Mahomet" (which some claim was obvious slander from the mystery schools, mutilating the name Baphomet. His name is Muhammed, Mehmet, Mahmut and other derivations in Turkish and I believe Mohammad is the Arabian original) is quite ignorant and generalizing like claiming Americans are Christians. I know that in that time the Ottoman Empire was the sole state of Muslims but it doesn't mean that it was a Turkish Empire. The divan was almost all together non-Turkish besides the Sultans whose mothers were again non-Turkish. You could claim that the people of the Ottoman Empire were Turkish but that smells quite fantasy since I can't believe that the libido of that tribe wouldn't quite reach 2 continent's and that they invaded land by slaughtering everyone (quite the contrary happened which is historically proven and I am too lazy to find you the articles concerning that. Look it up. And btw Atilla is a European Hun ) This eradicates quite many of the credibility points of this guy who in his claims never once wrote down from which sources he is taking his claims from. Map 1: http://www.public.iastate.edu/~cffor...omanempire.gif Map 2: http://www.ata.boun.edu.tr/Faculty/N..._1683-1800.jpg Ok. I could rant and go on for hours and pages but I need to work to feed myself Take care. I think the errors you could see at the links to the videos and it would be nice of you if you could point to the direct claim in lets say zeitgeist refuted minute 5 where it says "bla bla bla Jesus bla bla". This is quite tiring |
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This is going to be in bits and pieces, since there are other threads at this moment, who I think are much more important.
Point 1"After feeding the five thousand, Jesus sends his disciples ahead of him in a boat to cross the Sea of Galilee. Several hours later in the night, the disciples encounter a storm. Jesus comes to them, walking on the water. This terrifies the disciples and they think they are seeing a ghost. Jesus tells them in verse 27, "Take courage! It is I. Don't be afraid."" Let me paint a picture... "Jesus walked over water" The only way that story can be true AND physics works, is that Jesus weight for a while was LESS then the water his body would push away when submerged IN the water.. (Archimedes. Specific weight.) Basically his weight was about as much as the air just above the water. (Tangent.. Why walk if you can fly? ;-) The total mass/volume ratio of his body (Including the plus minus 80% water.) weighted LESS then the same volume of water. Normal one would float... But in this case he managed to not puncture the water surface.. Meaning the surface tension of water bared his weight... (Something some water insects do.) Unless of course he walked on ice.. But then it would be a lie, a deception to depict something godly.. And if he walked on ice, what did his followers do in a boat and why did they not walk with him? And it clearly states "Jesus sends his disciples ahead of him in a boat" Further more.. If I would create a Jesus.. (assuming for a moment "godly" powers.) You could try to burn him, or his flesh, but his atoms wouldn't oxidize and his molecules not break up. You could burry him, but he would whenever you dug him up, be alive and not aged. His body would survive any time span without oxigen... And how? By making his body for the danger time, have a total standstill of time... THAT is the materialized will of a god, sending a message, no human can deny, or copy, or imitate, or mimic.... And now in these times we don't deal with humans with the scientific grade of 1st graders anymore... So extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof that will convince ANY and EVERY one, NOW and IN the FUTURE. The Jesus of the Age of Aquarius, will have to walk hot fires, or Humanity has to be dumbed down (?again?) for a couple of generations. ____________ Is that a crystal clear picture? Well why did you use Thomas Paine as a source?.I take Thomas Paine as example because it is one written a while ago, And not Fresh as Zeitgeist. So the counter argument of the RC or Christian Religion should have been written long ago. So this news article written 23 years after his death, should raise some eyebrows. Can you cite a URL where this counter is peer verifiable? http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-b...&tif=00187.TIF And its logic stands by showing the power play between the Deity Supreme and the Fallen Angel... Beside the copied memes from pagan religions.... One can only deny the facts but only after a complete rewrite of history. Your Opinion may respectfully differ 180 Degrees. Last edited by TranceAm; 09-18-2008 at 11:34 PM. Reason: Additions. |
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On your walking on water theory I can give you another perspective. Your points are very plausible but you didn't take into account gravitational force. How bout that Jesus could control the polarity and magnitude of his body's magnetic push and pull forces. That would be walking on water without touching it. Perhaps it is some force that we don't know **** about. I think your perspective on these divine occasions are too humane. Too much based on what you perceive is real. This an universe of possibility. Quote:
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I guess, They knew a checkmate when they saw one. btw, "First to see that people think that every despicable person is working for the truth " are you saying here that a despicable person never tells the truth? Or the fact that he tells the truth, makes him despicable? Reputation your way, for discussing this. Last edited by TranceAm; 09-19-2008 at 10:57 PM. |
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I meant by that actually that most researchers **** people off (as far as I have observed of course). That emotion sometimes guide people to false assumptions. Thanks TranceAm. Am allways ready for a good and productive debate |
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This is a great movie. It outlines the 9-11 conspiracy very well and explains the federal reserve like I have never seen.
I am not an expert in ancient religion so I will reserve comment on the first part. If nothing else it made me think. As I am watching this, I am thinking why do not more people want to know about this. I have laid seeds yet they don't seem to "water the plants"!! This is a must see for those that haven't seen it. David Icke tells much of the same story but I find he drags it on a bit. |
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