Last Try (I suspect, in vein. Hope I am wrong.)...

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by arcora

fact is fact. facts are truth.

anything else is opinion.....FACT.

Agree 100%

[Céline]

Ok so...your truth might be that God exists...

do you have facts to back this up? or just anecdotal evidence?

Someone elses truth maybe that God does NOt exist...

do they have facts to back this up? or just anecdotal evidence?


Faith can not be proved with facts...faith is emotionally inspired...

IMHO

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Céline

Truth is about truisms...it does not have to be backed up with facts...

Truths...especialy religious ones...are emotionaly based...through faith..and require NO evidence to prove it..

But a fact..requires evidence...

I have never read anything so backwards in my life.

I'm not being negative or nasty.

I am saying 100% what I see here.

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Céline

Ok so...your truth might be that God exists...do you have facts to back this up?

phi

[hobbit]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

What has any of this got to do with anything in this thread?

THE TRUTH,
Thats what it's got to do with.
jesus is a fairy story cobbled together from mithras.
The cross is about the geometry that is pre-dominant in the holographic matrix that creates this reality we are part of.
The star of david, the swastika and all other geometries are within this system, thus they have all been utilised by those who seek to control the less well informed and able to know better.

I have no axe to grind with any organised religions, but I do resent your implications that anyone who denies the bible is dammed in some crazy way, you can stick such fear where the sun don't shine.
you can believe any fairy story you like, consider yourself saved or anything, there's only one truth, and I salute this forum as a platform to reveal that.
What was moses doing finding water i wonder?
hobbit

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Céline

Ok so...your truth might be that God exists...

do you have facts to back this up? or just anecdotal evidence?

Someone elses truth maybe that God does NOt exist...

do they have facts to back this up? or just anecdotal evidence?


Faith can not be proved with facts...faith is emotionally inspired...

IMHO

I did not come to this forum to debate such things.

Read my original post.

You obviously haven't.

Please stop replying until you know what the thread is about.

Hint: IT'S NOT A RELIGIOUS DEBATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by hobbit

the truth,
thats what it's got to do with.
Jesus is a fairy story cobbled together from mithras.
The cross is about the geometry that is pre-dominant in the holographic matrix that creates this reality we are part of.
The star of david, the swastika and all other geometries are within this system, thus they have all been utilised by those who seek to control the less well informed and able to know better.

I have no axe to grind with any organised religions, but i do resent your implications that anyone who denies the bible is dammed in some crazy way, you can stick such fear where the sun don't shine.
You can believe any fairy story you like, consider yourself saved or anything, there's only one truth, and i salute this forum as a platform to reveal that.
What was moses doing finding water i wonder?
Hobbit

I am not here to discuss religion or your view of religion or Jesus or God. Please stay on topic!

[Céline]

You are very insulting "WarriorServant"

All you want is people to listen to you...you do NOT want to hear what they have to say...

Your God must be so dissapointed with you.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

See... here you are generalizing... negatively. And why do you care what people think about you so much?... You know who you are don't you?

I DON'T care what people think about "me". I care that people stay on topic and stop injecting religious views into something that has NOTHING to do with religion. Look at THIS thread. Look at all the people giving their "religious" views. It's absolutely AMAZING to me. It is literally, and utterly, dizzyingly amazing to the point that I am bewildered -- that people are responding with their religious assertions on {{{{THIS TOPIC}}}}.. which is all about me trying to INSIST that I am not here to discuss "religion".

..all because they saw the word God?

That IS: Biblephobic!

There's NO other word for it.

It's not negative, it's not positive it's not nothing. It's an ASTUTE observation.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Céline

You are very insulting "WarriorServant"

All you want is people to listen to you...you do NOT want to hear what they have to say...

Your God must be so dissapointed with you.

I can't help it if people do not respond to the topic, or make assertions about me that are not true or that I do not BELIEVE!

You think I'm being insulting? NO! I am ANNOYED!

BIG DIFFERENCE!

edit I'd also like to point out that you've been more insulting to me than I've EVER been to anyone on this forum. I might be highly annoyed and emphatic about problems, but insulting? No. I don't go around insulting people. I correct people (on incorrect perceptions about ME) and I show my disdain for "movements" and "lies".

[morguana]

WarriorServant, it makes me sad that i am writting this, but here goes......i have to say that i find your posts antagonistic, un-helpfull and not at all written with the thought of those who may read them. so if you dont chill, the door will be opened.

im sorry guys but my advice to this sort of person is to ignore, they tend to thrive on drama


ggggrrrrrr
bou

[Céline]

NO...NOT because of the word GOD...but because you are an INSULTING person...

apologize and you may see a difference...

or continue on your negative path...

shrug

[waitinginthewings]

people.....it is a waste of time trying to converse with this op......because he will engage you in never-ending circles for eternity......he will frustrate the heck out of you. He has done this on all his other threads. He is just here to rant & vent his pent up anger, hostility to anyone who will listen and engage him. There is no fruitful/positive intent in his being here.

I wish it were not true, but i have tried working with him on another of his threads & it went down the same path of attacking, insulting everyone that responded to him. Its a waste of your energy & time folks.

[arcora]

Originally Posted by boudicca

WarriorServant, it makes me sad that i am writting this, but here goes......i have to say that i find your posts antagonistic, un-helpfull and not at all written with the thought of those who may read them. so if you dont chill, the door will be opened.

im sorry guys but my advice to this sort of person is to ignore, they tend to thrive on drama


ggggrrrrrr
bou

the guy makes a thread....nobody is forced to read it or reply to it.

who makes the drama here?

[Angel in Disguise]

Clearly hopeless... NEXT

[Céline]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

people.....it is a waste of time trying to converse with this op......because he will engage you in never-ending circles for eternity......he will frustrate the heck out of you. He has done this on all his other threads. He is just here to rant & vent his pent up anger, hostility to anyone who will listen and engage him. There is no fruitful/positive intent in his being here.

I wish it were not true, but i have tried working with him on another of his threads & it went down the same path of attacking, insulting everyone that responded to him. Its a waste of your energy & time folks.

Thank you for your words of wisdom...i will go back to playing with my flowers...thank god for my shop

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by boudicca

WarriorServant, it makes me sad that i am writting this, but here goes......i have to say that i find your posts antagonistic, un-helpfull and not at all written with the thought of those who may read them. so if you dont chill, the door will be opened.

im sorry guys but my advice to this sort of person is to ignore, they tend to thrive on drama


ggggrrrrrr
bou

You are a moderator.

Why do you not read my initial post and respond to it?

Instead of labeling me as unhelpful, why don't you look at the problem that I've outlined on this forum and look into it?

Encouraging members to ignore me is not going to help or solve anything.

It's jet another jab. Don't you think there are enough people giving jabs to the poster instead of responding to the concerns outlines in the topic?

[robyn]

Hmmm...many people have been to church, bible studies, read the bible, read it again, been to more church and bible studies...and chose something else. Sometimes rejecting christianity completely, sometimes holding some respect for it and those that believe in it.

Can we allow people to make their own choices and respect that without insisting they listen to us telll them we have the truth and they are gone astray?

I think so.

I have no interest in christianity, which, along with other religions claims an exclusive on truth, but don't reject the central message of Jesus, which, of course, is heresy to christianity. That's ok, it's my choice.

I was raised christian and believed it until I could no longer accept it, so I moved on -- as many others have. I have no quarrel with those that remain or convert.

Each to his own best understanding of the truth.

What I'm saying is, few want to discuss christianity on a non-christian forum and there's not much that can be done about it. You may want what very few here want, and that is causing, and is going to continue to cause, you great frustration.

You may want to consider doing something that won't cause this frustration.

All the best,
Robyn

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

There is a war in Afghanistan, where your services would be appreciated. Give it some consideration.

What has this got to do with anything?

[beren]

Originally Posted by Céline

Thank you for your words of wisdom...i will go back to playing with my flowers...thank god for my shop

Celine, you do not beieve in God...

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Céline

NO...NOT because of the word GOD...but because you are an INSULTING person...

apologize and you may see a difference...

or continue on your negative path...

shrug

What negative path?

Who did I insult?

You want to see INSULTS???

I can go and dig them up out of the forum if you like.

It is ironic that the person who is trying to STOP insults is the one who is being asked to stop "insulting"!

I am being negative? NO this forum is negative.

[Céline]

Originally Posted by beren

Celine, you do not beieve in God...

Excuse me??

who said i do not believe in God?

i may not believe in your God...or other peoples idea of God...but please do not assume anything about my spirituality...it is a very intimate subject for me.

i never said that beren..

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by robyn

Hmmm...many people have been to church, bible studies, read the bible, read it again, been to more church and bible studies...and chose something else. Sometimes rejecting christianity completely, sometimes holding some respect for it and those that believe in it.

Can we allow people to make their own choices and respect that without insisting they listen to us telll them we have the truth and they are gone astray?

I think so.

I have no interest in christianity, which, along with other religions claims an exclusive on truth, but don't reject the central message of Jesus, which, of course, is heresy to christianity. That's ok, it's my choice.

I was raised christian and believed it until I could no longer accept it, so I moved on -- as many others have. I have no quarrel with those that remain or convert.

Each to his own best understanding of the truth.

What I'm saying is, few want to discuss christianity on a non-christian forum and there's not much that can be done about it. You may want what very few here want, and that is causing, and is going to continue to cause, you great frustration.

You may want to consider doing something that won't cause this frustration.

All the best,
Robyn

That's all wonderful.

What you have something to post that's "ON TOPIC" break a leg.

This is NOT a religious debate and I didn't ask to hear anyones religious views.

Read the initial post.

You obviously ahve no idea what the thread is about.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Céline

Excuse me??

who said i do not belive in God?

i never said that beren..

Yeah you believe in "your" God, as if everyone can have their own personal God.

Fantastic.

Now, please stay on topic.

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Céline

Excuse me??

who said i do not believe in God?

i may not believe in your God...or other peoples idea of God...but please do not assume anything about my spirituality...it is a very intimate subject for me.

i never said that beren..

do you believe in GOD?