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05-02-2009, 07:10 PM | #26 |
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Cripple their machine...they need us to feed on...without us they are nothing.....NOTHING...
We actually have the power over them....we just don't use it...they use us. Eventually we will be the change...and they will have no more power..when that day comes...we will be free |
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As in not allowing them to use us anymore...tell me..would they be able to have wars..if we did not fight them? If we decided to grow food and give it to the hungry..can they stop us?
Standing up and declaring our freedom to choose not to be part of their ugly machine...for without us...they have nothing. Of course..everyone would have to BE THE CHANGE....be the peace we desire...show our love of mankind together...a global effort...one worth striving for... I am actually in the process of doing just that... I am contacting evey peace organization I can find and try to start global organization of Architects of Peace....It's a lofty and huge job..I could use some help if any one is interested..but I can try to go it alone also...because..I want to be the change I desire....I cannot stand seeing the suffering of humanity any longer....we are a beautiful humanity...lets get back to the creating of Love and Peace...love of mankind we were brought here to create Last edited by BROOK; 05-02-2009 at 08:00 PM. |
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you could start by reading this and then getting mad and then getting off your buts and then doing something and the..............................
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ht=declaration that thread has a full copy of the declaration of independance.......quite a unique document don't you think (no pun intended). |
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I think I must have scared the NWO. Today, I went hiking in the forest with my dog as usual. Then off in the woods there was a loudmouth on a bullhorn and a group of idiots firing volleys into the trees. They were trying to scare me and it didnt work.
As for Global minimum wage and Global environmental protection. Thosa are major things and not scraps off the table. That would do more to alleviate world poverty and help save the planet than anything. Once you force the NWO order to listen to you with these two issues. Then you can begin co-opting their nefarious agenda on other things. Towards true World peace and Global Human rights. |
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It must have been an Alex Jones wannabe! I walk my dog through the forrest every day. It sure beats fighting on the internet! I didn't mean to belittle your proposal regarding a global minimum wage and global environmental standards. You are right. This would be an important step in the right direction. What do you think about the relationship between free enterprise...a minimum wage...and environmental standards? I like the idea of speaking politely yet honestly to the PTB. This is much better than shouting insults at them.
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I can't speak for others. Within my own ability, I have been sharing my understanding of the NWO agenda with coworkers, family and friends. The PTB agenda and methodology needs to be exposed, discussed, and understood. Just doing my share at the grass root level--
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Thanks but I guess you misunderstood me...
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I wasn't criticizing Alex Jones. I listen to his show probably once a week. His style is not my style...and he has much more brains, energy, drive, and courage than I do.
I know I'm lazy and stupid...but I'm doing the best I can. Would a global minimum wage be socialistic in nature? Shouldn't pay be negotiated between the worker and employer? Should there be a global maximum wage? Should there be a cap on wealth(no millionaires, billionaires, or trillionaires)? In a way...I like the idea...but does this conflict with freedom? At what point do we enter into socialism and communism? Environmental and safety standards are another story. This would seem to be fair game for global regulators. On the other hand...at what point does the state over-step reasonable limits...and become an obstructive and overbearing pain in the ***? Perhaps full disclosure labels on all products...describing pay, working conditions, safety records, environmental impact, carbon footprint, etc, etc...might be a better approach. This would allow countries and companies to conduct business in an atmosphere of freedom...while freedom of inquiry would identify those companies and countries which violate basic human rights and decency. The retailers and consumers could then decide who and who not to do business with. Just a thought. I really don't know. |
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Some socialism is OK. What is the fire department?, police? education system? All forms of socialism. In the US and most of the West there already is minimum wage, environmental protection. And everyone still has freedom to make money- lots of it. The problem is that the corporations have moved industry offshore-away from the US and the West to cheaper labour (almost slave labour) and no pollution controls. Then they turn around to the west and say they will only come back when the West lowers it's standards. Every country is competing for corporate jobs and industry by continually lowering their standards all over the world. A global agreement for global minimum wage and environmental protection would end the corporate tyranny. Remember some socialism works, some capiatlism, some democracy. it's the extreme of any of those that never works. extreme socialism=communism, extreme capitalism=slavery, extreme democracy=popularity contests.
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Orthodoxymoron - I like the idea of having socially responsible labels including wages paid, environmental impact etc..it could really change things, as long as the companies are not lieing about their conduct on the labels.
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Would a little bit of fascism be ok? Or...is it just the extreme fascism we need to avoid? Can someone be a little bit pregnant? Can there be too much freedom? How much is too much? Can there be too much responsible freedom? I maintain that the combination of freedom and responsibility is an absolute standard. The words balance each other...and maintain homeostasis...sort of like a buffer for ph balance. There cannot be too much responsible freedom.
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'The Money Masters' is a good place to begin. It's a documentary about international banking. No shouting. No fear-mongering. Just the facts: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...19560256183936
For something with more of an edge...and with a bit of an attitude...'Endgame' is a good overview of what is being said about the New World Order: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...39989634&hl=en The secret is to get informed without getting mad. People tend to gravitate toward being ignorant and apathetic...or toward being partially informed and very angry(especially when they get burned by the system). Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 05-08-2009 at 08:44 PM. |
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Perhaps 'The Money Masters' needs to be remade...and updated. If you come across a better presentation of this information...let us know.
The love of money...and the mandrake...are the roots of all evil. This is an infowar. Let the new information settle into your system...and then communicate it. The hard part is to not be disruptive...and end up arguing, fighting, getting fired, getting divorced, getting excommunicated, etc. A lot of people may not be ready for a lot of new and upsetting information. If someone else brings up these subjects...we can be ready to enter into a conversation with them. Asking and answering questions is much better than preaching an angry sermon. Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 05-08-2009 at 09:50 PM. |
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