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Old 10-05-2008, 07:07 PM   #51
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funny thing is ring worm is a fungus, i would use silver water at first to see if it kills any fungus you might still have
not all. there is parasitic and fungal.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:34 PM   #52
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not all. there is parasitic and fungal.
Wow,alot of repilies,I thank u all,It seems like others have given and gained some advice as well,I will try a few things,and will keep you all updated on my progress,would love to be pain free,it would bring back my energy.......
bless everyone,.......lets get through this year together,
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:06 PM   #53
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Reading and listening to material from PC or PA can induce arthritic symptoms. The negative interviews and negative postings will tax your physical body tremendously.

Find something healing to do for yourself. Try another forum which brings joy to your being instead of fear.
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Old 10-08-2008, 01:41 AM   #54
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Remember!!

It is not only what your eat, but also stop using toothpast and stop washing your clothes in synthetic junk. Also stop using any synthetics for cleaning your self. Use natural products that aren't processed same for food!

For washing my clothes I use Washnuts, an natural alternative. This because the skin absorbes all most anything.

To wash my self in bathtube I use olive oil with some herbs in it. oil float on water if it does not then it is a synthetic and do not use it.

And for my brushing my teeth i use herbs powder mix.
http://www.zoeken.nl/?vid=l872101665...&y=0&where=web

I good site for for health information is that one from the healthranger.
http://www.naturalnews.com
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:13 AM   #55
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Curcumin is a natural health enhancer with a long history of use in Ayurvedic (Indian) medicine for supporting a healthy inflammatory response, promoting detoxification of the body, and easing occasional minor digestive upset.

By promoting healthy levels of histamine and cortisone, curcumin supports a healthy inflammation response to comfort aching joints.

This enhanced 500mg formula contains the full range of turmeric antioxidants in a concentrated extract for maximum potency.

This curcumin extract is a powerful 18:1 concentrate, meaning it takes 18 pounds of the dry herb to equal the potency of one pound of the dry extract.

With a complete range of turmeric antioxidants, this potent formula includes demethoxycurcumin, bisdemethoxycurcumin, and other turmeric compounds to increase bioavailability and efficacy.

Research suggests curcumin may also be effective in comforting symptoms of occasional digestive upset.

A double blind study performed in Thailand (1) examined the effects of 500mg of curcumin taken 4 times a day, versus placebo.

A total of 116 subjects were enrolled, and researchers found statistically significant improvements in the curcumin group versus placebo. After 7 days, 87% of the curcumin groups experienced full or partial relief compared to 53% of the placebo group.

http://www.immunesupport.com/curcumin.htm


This may help. Best Wishes.

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Old 10-08-2008, 07:19 AM   #56
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bee sting therapy
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:56 AM   #57
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Yep. A woman told me of many ladies sitting in front of the hives hoping to be stung. She was 70 something when she told me of this years ago and then named many that had complete reversals of serious crippeling arthritis. One poor lady couldnt even walk to the hives but in a week was getting around as she did before. Someone I knew to be perfectly fine regarding movement, I had not known she was severly crippled by arthritis at one time. This information comes from transplants of Ketuckians to my up north area. It's hill people doctorin im told.

I dont know why it works, but have seen enough to be a believer.
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:09 PM   #58
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I got rid of tendonitis with MSM [methyl-sylphanyl-methane], which is basically organic sulphar very fast, i.e. one week. Link: http://www.a1msm.co.uk/

Another product that I am interested, but haven't used is Serrapeptase. It is an enzyme.
Link: http://www.goodhealth.nu/serrapeptas...letter2005.pdf

I hope this of use. Love to you.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:08 PM   #59
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Copper is the age old remedy. Try pure copper bracelet.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:22 PM   #60
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As others have said, the first step to regaining one's health is to simultaneously cleanse the body of toxic materials and feed the body with real nourishment.

Most people have a build up of parasites and chemical toxins as well as a desperate need for vitamins and minerals. I am a 'health freak' and I have used many methods ranging from long-term fasting to Dr. Hulda Clark's treatments to kinesiology treatements, accupuncture, ionic foot bath treatments and many other things.

In my experience, the detox foot pads made by Kenrico co in Japan are an excellent means of detoxing. Now I did say "Kenrico", not the off-brands now being sold in pharmacy chains and supercenters. You have to buy them from a distributor. I found a distributor on eBay. If you look at Kenrico's website you can see for yourself that they are a scientific company with well established quality controls and industry ceritifications. They have different pads available for different ailments, all info listed on their site.

For the other issue of nutrition, I think we all know at this point what a healthy diet entails. Eat from the ground: raw fruits and vegetables! No fast food, no soda, no processed poison labeled as food. And of course hydration must be maintained at all times. Some suggest 1 oz per 2 lb body weight. During detox, a person may need to double that to 1 oz per 1 lb body weight. For a person with poor health, supplemention is a must. I purchase Nutri-West brand supplements. Hands down, they are the best. Again, by distributor only but there are now online distributors you can find using Google.

For some people, managing their own health seems, at first, seems overwhelming. It was for me when I first began 'waking up' from the nightmare that is the healthcare system of the US. But fortunately, I found an amazing chiropractor/kinesiologist who really 'gets it'. It is always advisable to seek a heath professional. I just think an MD is not the right initials to get help from!

Hope you get the healing you seek!
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:35 PM   #61
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I have seen this work on two people whom were functionally crippled by arthritis...http://www.loicleribault.com/aboutus.aspx.

I can't seem to find any of the interviews with the originator, except in French, but if you read French (which I can, spottily) there are several. What an interesting fellow Mr. Ribault is!
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Old 10-09-2008, 12:58 PM   #62
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I need some help,many years ago ,I gat a gout infection,coupled with ring
worm infection,....what all this led to was extreme psorasis,swollen joints,
I've beem sufferring from these afflictions for years now,have tried everything under the sun,I've gotten heavy calcium deposits under my skin
that doesn't feel right,..........some alternative medicines are not found here in canada..........I've alotta $ on everything......any advice friends...

Something's not right. Gout + ringworm don't lead to psoriasis and the other symptoms...sounds like you have some kind of autoimmune thing going on. I don't know anything about your size, diet, overall health but...

The first thing that hits me is that your pH is probably off. You can remedy that with diet. I would try a good antioxidant in doses twice what it says on the label...there are no side effects. Grapeseed extract, pycnogenol (pine bark), astaxanthin...all are good. You also should take metabolic enzymes on an empty stomach. Good enzyme products are a little pricey but well worth it. And a plenty of probiotics to keep your gut metabolism efficient. Never, never let yourself become constipated! This is a source of sickness and death. Don't take laxatives. Constipation is to be avoided, not suffered and then cured. It's so bad for our bodies.

There's more you can do, but I would go this far, sight unseen. You might consider a parasite cleanse as well, but at the least you need to adjust your digestion and take antioxidants. If you do this, I'd like to hear from you again in a few weeks to see how you're doing.
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Old 10-09-2008, 01:30 PM   #63
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As others have said, the first step to regaining one's health is to simultaneously cleanse the body of toxic materials and feed the body with real nourishment...
A great post, thank you for sharing your knowledge!

Folks, there are some knowledgeable people here at the forum, and this is one of the best resources Avalon provides!


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...Eat from the ground: raw fruits and vegetables! No fast food, no soda, no processed poison labeled as food...
The sad truth is that ALL processed foods and ALL prescriptions and over-the-counter meds are poison. That, my friends, is what is killing us. That is what is driving the epidemic of allergies, autoimmune ailments, ADHD, diabetes, etc. NOT that there are not genuine breakthroughs in medicine as well as conditions that truly need pharmaceuticals. I'm not here to argue that.

What I do argue is that the medical professions, like every other profession in our fallen culture, have sacrificed their noble traditions to the advantages of commerce. You can't trust 'em. But you CAN learn to give your body the tools it needs to heal and rebuild itself, and therein lies the secret of health.


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For some people, managing their own health seems, at first, seems overwhelming. It was for me when I first began 'waking up' from the nightmare that is the healthcare system of the US.

We are so on the same page here! The ONLY way to health is to own your own wellbeing from the start. Insurance and HMOs only encourage dependence, and cultivate the myth that only MDs are qualified to judge health issues, and only pharmaceuticals are appropriate remedies. This is absolute, poisonous, evil lies. The result of believing those lies is the blanket of sickness that lies upon us today.

Inescapably, health is spiritual. The body and the spirit are inseparable in this life. I know people who are perfectly healthy, but the fire within has gone out. These people have a malaise that no herbs can cure. And for people who are already suffering the effects of a lifetime lived the American way, I am sorry to say there are no magic bullets. There is only remediation, and this you can do. Start now.


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Old 10-12-2008, 07:31 AM   #64
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There is something you said that bothers me, and that is the "Fungus Infection" and The "Psorasis".
It might well be a good idea to get your Doctor or Health Specialist to test you to see if you might have Yeast Infection in the bowel (candida albicans). My Husband had this and got horrible large ring-worm type patches on his body.
If it is this you would need to cut out every-thing you eat that has sugar in it! The only thing that would cure him was (I gave him a chopped up clove of garlic on a tablespoon mixed with olive oil followed by a sprig of parsley to hid the smell.
Sometimes Arthritis is there because of another condition. Sugar creates an acid system.
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Old 10-12-2008, 07:35 PM   #65
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Very good advices have been shared in this thread, but one very important thing is missing!

I myself have been suffering with a rare form of arthritis, called ankylosing spondylitis (you know, people who are bent so bad they cant look in front of them, thats what i got). I do not yet suffer from the deformity, and i wont let that happen!

2 years ago i could barely walk, just a trip to the bathroom was torture and most of the time i had to walk on my knees. I had to go back to living with my father because i couldnt take care of myself. I think we have to hit the bottom of the barrel before we realize we have everything inside ourselves to get out of it.

So anyways to get back on topic, the one thing missing in this thread is the power of meditation! When i was at the bottom of all bottoms, i decided to start meditating again. Funnily, my health started changing very rapidly, over night! I also started doing breathing exercises to help oxygenate my body (the arthritis i suffer from affects the ribs too, making breathing quite painful, thus reducing the oxygen intake). The breathing exercises were quite painful, and i wasnt able to do a lot of sequences at a time and that was allright. What paid off was to stick with it and respect my limits. The road back to health can be long and hard, but its there! You cant detox your body from all of the abuse of bad food/toxic medications in a day, its a gradual thing.

After i started getting better from the meditations and breathing exercises, my mind started to be more clear as well. My sleep was much better too, i went from sleeping in bunches of 15 mins to 4-6 hours straight, that was quite good! I was then able to start doing research and start changes in my life. All of the advices in this thread cover most of it but ill list them again.

Acid blood is a terrain for sickness.
You cant have a good health if your blood is acid. There are supplements you can take to help bring your PH back to alkaline, but i went the food route. This route will bring you improvement in a much slower way but thats what i prefer, because the changes i put in my food habit are permanent. There are charts all over the internet showing you which foods are alkaline and which are acid, just google "acid alkaline food charts". You need to eat 80% alkaline foods, 20% acid.

You need to get rid of everything that lowers your immune system. The list here is long unfortunately.
-Get rid of all processes foods (white sugar and flour, corn syrup, sodas, etc etc).
-Get rid of GM foods (you will have to go organic).
-Get rid of canned foods (the preservatives they put in them are bad for you, on top of the fact you dont know where the food in them came from - aka GM food, irradiated food, etc).
-Get rid of products with aspartame (sodas again, chewing gum, etc).
-Say no to vaccines (they got a lot of bad stuff in them, like mercury and who knows what else).
-If you can afford it, get rid of your tooth amalgams, they are a source of mercury which poisons your body and kills your immune system (you can replace them with a ceramic filling).
-Get rid of red meat and diary products (unfortunately all the cattle is treated with growth hormones and antibiotics, and those pass in the milk and meat and thats bad for your immune system).
-Bottled water (here in Canada, you cant find bottled water without fluorides in them anymore, if you can find true pure bottled water in your area then youre fine, but the plastic bottles are bad anyways).
-Get rid of your microwave oven
-Get rid of your mobile/cell phone

Detox your body!
-Fasting helps a lot here.
-Drink a lot of water (avoid fluoridated and chlorinated water though, you might need a good water filter/distiller if your water source is bad).
-Eat organic. Eat a lot of fresh veggies and fruits (eat their seeds when possible).
-Meditate!
-Listen to relaxing music, everything that will reduce your stress level is good for you. Listening to Solfeggio Frequencies will help you a lot, you can find them in youtube (the healing frequency is 528).
-Oxygenate your body. Do breathing exercises, you can do it while you meditate, take a walk, etc

Sorry if that post got long
But i can tell you ive done 90% of what ive listed here (cant afford getting rid of my tooth amalgams atm), and right now im well enough that i was finally able to stop taking my poisoned prescription pills 4 months ago. I can now sleep a whole night. I still cant run or walk very fast but its getting there. I can now cook my own food and take care of myself. I also discovered im quite good at cooking food! Its totally possible to eat healthy while your food also tastes very good. I cant stand processed foods and restaurants anymore, they taste like **** (proof i have detoxed well so far).

So anyways good luck! Im sure you have everything in you to get better

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Old 10-13-2008, 05:18 PM   #66
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Hallo Uwe,

the best remedy for arthritis is bee venom or the sting of bees. I use it in my own practrice with tremendous sucess!!!
And its not true that there is no possibility in Canada
just look : http://apitherapy.com/canada.php
or contact Michail Simics under www.beevenom.com
He is producing beevenom and for sure can give you an advice where you can find a therapist who does it.

Some dietary corrections are for sure recommended. Such as avoiding porcs meat and other acidic producing food.
This should be evaluated in an individual prescription.


Good luck from senioraladin from the german ground crew
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:26 PM   #67
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Hallo Matricel,

the best remedy for arthritis is bee venom or the sting of bees. I use it in my own practrice with tremendous sucess!!!
And its not true that there is no possibility in Canada
just look : http://apitherapy.com/canada.php
or contact Michail Simics under www.beevenom.com
He is producing beevenom and for sure can give you an advice where you can find a therapist who does it.

Some dietary corrections are for sure recommended. Such as avoiding porcs meat and other acidic producing food.
This should be evaluated in an individual prescription.


Good luck from senioraladin from the german ground crew
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Old 10-14-2008, 05:30 PM   #68
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hello everyone,
I've gotten so much advice from all you beautiful people as well as quite a
number of people sufferring form the same condition as I,
I've taken advice from henry deacon,in which he said for I to take vitamin d3
supposedly has wonder cures for many ailments,as well some postings have suggested cats claw and stinging nettle,well just a few days ago,I picked up these three vitamins/herbs...........it's been a few days now......I've tried many different herbs/vitamins,but not these 3.:here are my findings so far,

I have significant reduced swelling ,the pain as well is lesser,I find I am more
energized,my wife has knee problems,and she has found some relief.
so if any others want to try,here is what I am experiencing so far,
again thanks to everyone with their suggestions,and I hope for all others
who also suffer,speedy recovery.........I will keep you informed on my status
in the following weeks......peace.
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:36 PM   #69
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A friend of mine was just talking about how she had crippling arthritis in her hip, she went on an extensive candida yeast diet and the symptoms totally cleared up. You could try googling "candida yeast overgrowth" and see if you find anything that is helpful for you. In my experience working with natural supplements it does seem to cause so different health problems for people.

A parasite cleanse probably wouldn't hurt either.
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:58 AM   #70
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I need some help,many years ago ,I gat a gout infection,coupled with ring
worm infection,....what all this led to was extreme psorasis,swollen joints,
I've beem sufferring from these afflictions for years now,have tried everything under the sun,I've gotten heavy calcium deposits under my skin
that doesn't feel right,..........some alternative medicines are not found here in canada..........I've alotta $ on everything......any advice friends...
I don't think I had the same cause as yourself but I rid myself of sore joints by cutting out potatoes and other nightshade family plants. I also reduced wheat and corn. No more sore joints.
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:10 AM   #71
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Take MMS and you will be surprised within a week.
It will take out all the acid in your body and with that your pains.
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:13 PM   #72
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MMS would probably do the trick, just make sure you don't have any thyroid issues first.

I can't take MMS so what I did was to quit eating potatoes, tomatoes, eggplants, anything from the nightshade family, especially the potatoes and tomatoes. After 30 days I no longer had joint pains. Whenever I start eating potatoes again the joint pains return. After over 6 months I don't even like potatoes anymore. Sweet potatoes are good though.

I am now starting to notice that if I stop eating breads I feel better too.

Hope that helps. Both MMS and cutting out potatoes are cheap and won't hurt you, even if it does not work. That is in accordance with the Hippocratic oath to "do no harm".

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Old 12-12-2008, 04:29 PM   #73
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My mother used white raisins soaked in Gin. Old home remedy she says worked for her. Consider interactions of alchohol with other medications you may be taking.

http://arthritis.about.com/od/altern...raisinsgin.htm
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:22 PM   #74
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WOW! Nice to see so many of your brothers & sisters really care! Just the love and atttention you're getting should cure your pain, HA HA!

On a more serious note, I've been reading this water cure from a Dr. Batmanghelidj who claimes to be able to prevent as well as cure many sickness's He seems to make lot's of sense and I myself am drinking water like I have never done before.

Give a try you have nothing to loose.



"Water prevents and helps to cure arthritis.
Rheumatoid joint pain - arthritis - is a signal of water shortage in the painful joint. It can affect the young as well as the old. The use of pain-killers does not cure the problem, but exposes the person to further damage from pain medications. Intake of water and small amounts of salt will cure this problem".

http://www.watercure.com/wondersofwater.html
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:22 PM   #75
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Hi,
I think post #19 (Tony) might have something - Although I am an intuitive and not a doctor, you seem to be resonating with Tick / Insect Illnesses; and there are many illnesses from vectors that are known to cause serious arthritis.

These include bacteria, viruses, parasites, mycoplasm and more. The live pathogens produce toxins, and, if the pathogens are killed, there are more toxins that are released - these endo- and exotoxins can re-circulate in the body, rather than be eliminated. Therefor, it's important that if you are on a natural protocol to eliminate, then you must taken toxin binders and other agents to remove them from the body. There are panel tests for these as well as assay tests now for endotoxins.

I can get you professional grade natural products that you can order yourself
at a 20% discount (I offer to my clients and to members of this forum), and you can have them shipped to CAN.

I have read good things about MMS (Jim Supple's work) and will be testing this on my clients. Although it has not been reported that it completely cures tick illness.

You can also go to the Cowden Support Program, which offers a good protocol, but it is very expensive. I don't earn anything on his stuff, but you could order several things he recommends via me.

Many people report excellent, but not full recovery, from Samento (TOA-Free Cat's Claw;or Prima Una De Gato) - try the liquid form. There is some controversy as to whether TOA-Free offers better results than plain Cat's Claw. You MUST, however, take binding agents and other things when taking this herb, along with a heavy metal cleanser.

Maybe go to a Lyme Disease and other websites and check yourself for symptoms. Even if you get tested and the tests come back negative, you could still be positive for tick illness.

Good luck,

Dakini

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