Alkaline vs Acid

Reunite · 11-10-2008, 10:09 PM

What is the healthy balance?

Has anyone read Stuart Wilde's book 'The Force'. I have only read an amazon review stating as you develop spiritually your vibrational energy increases inturn attracting like energy. 'He refers to having an alkaline lifestyle as opposed to acid lifestyle. Alkaline will raise your energy. This is your diet, music, color, your thoughts (negative thoughts are "acid")'

So would cutting Lemon out of your diet increase your vibrational energy?

What are your thoughts?

freekatz · 11-11-2008, 05:12 AM

No, actually eating a lemon will increase alkalinity!

This link sort of explains it:
http://www.infowest.com/business/g/gentle/lemon.html

Reunite · 11-11-2008, 08:13 PM

Thanks for the link Freekatz...it makes me wonder what the ideal alkaline diet would be?

Antaletriangle · 11-11-2008, 09:32 PM

Unsure whether this helps but it tends to suggest the stuff your mum wanted you to eat as a child-sprouts and vegetables,fruit etc.lol.
Alkaline food chart to download:
http://acidalkalinediet.com/foodchar...FQeO1QodYXnSrw
An alkaline diet is a diet that emphasizes, to a varying degree, fresh fruit, vegetables, roots and tubers, nuts, and legumes.

What is the History of Alkaline Diets?
Our hunter-gatherer ancestors consumed a diet very different from what's typical today. The diet was based on minimally processed plant and animal foods. But with the advent of agriculture, the standard Western diet changed greatly.

Grains were introduced into the diet after the appearance of stone tools. Refined grains were available after the invention of automated rolling and sifting devices.

Milk, cheese and other milk products were introduced with the domestication of livestock.

Salt consumption rose when technology to mine, process, and transport it became available.

Meat consumption increased with animal husbandry. It further increased with the advent of technology that enabled grains to be efficiently fed to cattle, which allowed cattle to be fattened quickly.

Sugar consumption has risen since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.
Almost all foods that we eat, after being digested, absorbed, and metabolized, release either an acid or an alkaline base (bicarbonate) into blood. Grains, fish, meat, poultry, shellfish, cheese, milk, and salt all produce acid, so the introduction and dramatic rise in our consumption of these foods meant that the typical Western diet became more acid-producing. Consumption of fresh fruit and vegetables decreased, which further made the Western diet acid-producing.

Our blood is slightly alkaline, with a normal pH level of between 7.35 and 7.45. The theory behind the alkaline diet is that our diet should reflect this pH level (as it did in the past) and be slightly alkaline. Proponents of alkaline diets believe that a diet high in acid-producing foods is disrupts this balance and promotes the loss of essential minerals such as potassium, magnesium, calcium, and sodium, as the body tries to restore equilibrium. This imbalance is thought to make people prone to illness.

Why Do People Try Alkaline Diets?
According to some alternative practitioners, the shift to an acid-producing diet is the cause of a number of chronic diseases. Some practitioners recommend the alkaline diet if a person has the following symptoms and other illnesses have been ruled out.

Lack of energy

Excessive mucous production

Nasal congestion

Frequent colds and flu

Anxiety, nervousness, irritability

Ovarian cysts, polycystic ovaries, benign breast cysts

Headache
Although conventional doctors do believe that increasing consumption of fruit and vegetables and reducing one's intake of meat, salt, and refined grains is beneficial to health, most conventional doctors do not believe that an acid-producing diet is the foundation of chronic illness. In conventional medicine, there is evidence, however, that alkaline diets may help prevent the formation of calcium kidney stones, osteoporosis, and age-related muscle wasting.

What is the Evidence for Alkaline Diets?
Large, well-designed clinical trials on the effectiveness of the alkaline diet for general health are lacking.

What are the Safety Concerns?
It's a good idea to consult your doctor before trying a new diet. The alkaline diet should not be used by people with acute or chronic kidney failure unless under a doctor's supervision. People with pre-existing heart disease and those on medications that affect potassium levels in the body should check with their doctor first.

Reunite · 11-11-2008, 09:52 PM

Wow thanks for the comprehensive info Antaletriangle..very much appreciated

freekatz · 11-12-2008, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reunite

Thanks for the link Freekatz...it makes me wonder what the ideal alkaline diet would be?

I'm vegan, eat plenty of fresh organic vegetables and fruit and I'm STILL too acidic! so I find the whole subject very confusing....I'm reading a book called " The ph miracle" by Dr. Robert Young which is really good, hopefully I can get it sorted out.

Good luck!

Realview · 11-17-2008, 02:05 AM

Alkaline diet does seem to be much healthier than acidic. Avoiding animal products in any form including milk and cheese is great. Animal products are mostly the source of the "modern diseases" such as Alzheimer, stroke, high blood pressure, heat disease, etc.. This is in no small part do to cholesterol which the body manufactures itself and has no use for more.

Avoid the carbonated drinks, coffee, etc.. At an Asian (Chinese, Vietnamese) grocery you can usually get 4 or 5 varieties of dried seaweed. I soak a pinch of each in water for an hour or so then blend them into a liquid and add to curry dishes like spinach (sag) for example. Adding the spice asofedita seems to counter the fishy flavor of the seaweed and is a good onion/garlic alternative. Also apple cider vinegar and honey and or apple cider vinegar and baking soda (poor mans champagne) helps and lemon/lime juice. Distilled water is ph neutral which is good. The ideal ph is probably sea water. Be patient, it takes a month or so for the body to adapt to the ph change. Alfalfa tables are also good. Avoid too many oils.

Harmful microbes seem to flourish in acidic environments so many other illnesses such as cancers are treatable with an alkalinizing diet. Neutral ph not excessive alkaline or acidic is the goal.

11-10-2008, 10:09 PM	#1
Reunite Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 279	Alkaline vs Acid What is the healthy balance? Has anyone read Stuart Wilde's book 'The Force'. I have only read an amazon review stating as you develop spiritually your vibrational energy increases inturn attracting like energy. 'He refers to having an alkaline lifestyle as opposed to acid lifestyle. Alkaline will raise your energy. This is your diet, music, color, your thoughts (negative thoughts are "acid")' So would cutting Lemon out of your diet increase your vibrational energy? What are your thoughts?

11-11-2008, 05:12 AM	#2
freekatz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 155	Re: Alkaline vs Acid No, actually eating a lemon will increase alkalinity! This link sort of explains it: http://www.infowest.com/business/g/gentle/lemon.html

11-11-2008, 08:13 PM	#3
Reunite Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 279	Re: Alkaline vs Acid Thanks for the link Freekatz...it makes me wonder what the ideal alkaline diet would be?

11-11-2008, 09:32 PM	#4
Antaletriangle Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Posts: 3,380	Re: Alkaline vs Acid Unsure whether this helps but it tends to suggest the stuff your mum wanted you to eat as a child-sprouts and vegetables,fruit etc.lol. Alkaline food chart to download: http://acidalkalinediet.com/foodchar...FQeO1QodYXnSrw An alkaline diet is a diet that emphasizes, to a varying degree, fresh fruit, vegetables, roots and tubers, nuts, and legumes. What is the History of Alkaline Diets? Our hunter-gatherer ancestors consumed a diet very different from what's typical today. The diet was based on minimally processed plant and animal foods. But with the advent of agriculture, the standard Western diet changed greatly. Grains were introduced into the diet after the appearance of stone tools. Refined grains were available after the invention of automated rolling and sifting devices. Milk, cheese and other milk products were introduced with the domestication of livestock. Salt consumption rose when technology to mine, process, and transport it became available. Meat consumption increased with animal husbandry. It further increased with the advent of technology that enabled grains to be efficiently fed to cattle, which allowed cattle to be fattened quickly. Sugar consumption has risen since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. Almost all foods that we eat, after being digested, absorbed, and metabolized, release either an acid or an alkaline base (bicarbonate) into blood. Grains, fish, meat, poultry, shellfish, cheese, milk, and salt all produce acid, so the introduction and dramatic rise in our consumption of these foods meant that the typical Western diet became more acid-producing. Consumption of fresh fruit and vegetables decreased, which further made the Western diet acid-producing. Our blood is slightly alkaline, with a normal pH level of between 7.35 and 7.45. The theory behind the alkaline diet is that our diet should reflect this pH level (as it did in the past) and be slightly alkaline. Proponents of alkaline diets believe that a diet high in acid-producing foods is disrupts this balance and promotes the loss of essential minerals such as potassium, magnesium, calcium, and sodium, as the body tries to restore equilibrium. This imbalance is thought to make people prone to illness. Why Do People Try Alkaline Diets? According to some alternative practitioners, the shift to an acid-producing diet is the cause of a number of chronic diseases. Some practitioners recommend the alkaline diet if a person has the following symptoms and other illnesses have been ruled out. Lack of energy Excessive mucous production Nasal congestion Frequent colds and flu Anxiety, nervousness, irritability Ovarian cysts, polycystic ovaries, benign breast cysts Headache Although conventional doctors do believe that increasing consumption of fruit and vegetables and reducing one's intake of meat, salt, and refined grains is beneficial to health, most conventional doctors do not believe that an acid-producing diet is the foundation of chronic illness. In conventional medicine, there is evidence, however, that alkaline diets may help prevent the formation of calcium kidney stones, osteoporosis, and age-related muscle wasting. What is the Evidence for Alkaline Diets? Large, well-designed clinical trials on the effectiveness of the alkaline diet for general health are lacking. What are the Safety Concerns? It's a good idea to consult your doctor before trying a new diet. The alkaline diet should not be used by people with acute or chronic kidney failure unless under a doctor's supervision. People with pre-existing heart disease and those on medications that affect potassium levels in the body should check with their doctor first.

11-11-2008, 09:52 PM	#5
Reunite Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 279	Re: Alkaline vs Acid Wow thanks for the comprehensive info Antaletriangle..very much appreciated

11-17-2008, 02:05 AM	#7
Realview Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 92	Re: Alkaline vs Acid Alkaline diet does seem to be much healthier than acidic. Avoiding animal products in any form including milk and cheese is great. Animal products are mostly the source of the "modern diseases" such as Alzheimer, stroke, high blood pressure, heat disease, etc.. This is in no small part do to cholesterol which the body manufactures itself and has no use for more. Avoid the carbonated drinks, coffee, etc.. At an Asian (Chinese, Vietnamese) grocery you can usually get 4 or 5 varieties of dried seaweed. I soak a pinch of each in water for an hour or so then blend them into a liquid and add to curry dishes like spinach (sag) for example. Adding the spice asofedita seems to counter the fishy flavor of the seaweed and is a good onion/garlic alternative. Also apple cider vinegar and honey and or apple cider vinegar and baking soda (poor mans champagne) helps and lemon/lime juice. Distilled water is ph neutral which is good. The ideal ph is probably sea water. Be patient, it takes a month or so for the body to adapt to the ph change. Alfalfa tables are also good. Avoid too many oils. Harmful microbes seem to flourish in acidic environments so many other illnesses such as cancers are treatable with an alkalinizing diet. Neutral ph not excessive alkaline or acidic is the goal.