I have an idea that might work.

[joe2288]

I have noticed allot of negativity here being brought in by new Avalon members

with negative agenda's and banning them is having no effect, they just get new

accounts and come back. I have a solution. I need Avalon's member's support on

this. It is a up to us to whether we want this or not, so i am making this thread

so everyone has a say and we can get the Mod's attention, they might be

able to do something. I have the following suggestions to be implemted.

5-10 day wait period for new members getting accounts.
This will stop people who been banned from going and new accounts right away.

10-15 day probation period, Were if a new members come's in stirring trouble
he is automatically banned, no questions asked.

This is not my descision it our's, so if you support this then lets get the

moderator's attention. If you don't support this then your free to voice your

opinion.

[JesterTerrestrial]

Good thinking joe!

Positive solutions. Keep em coming

Don't worry these dark fools can't stand the light for long!

Have a great day peace!

[Northern Boy]

good idea

[Paul.T.]

Being new here I have been wary of posting lately after seeing what has become disharmonius to the group. I have been following Avolon for a year now and found a loving beautiful group of people.

If a propbation period is required to keep the energy positive. tHen I will gladly stand in line and wait my turn.

"spirit, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change,
Courage to change the things I can,
Wisdom to know the difference"

[burgundia]

What i find really incredible is that people like you, Paul, are sort of "on probation" while others get the colour purple immediately, even if they appear out of the blue....

[Paul.T.]

Originally Posted by burgundia

What i find really incredible is that people like you, Paul, are sort of "on probation" while others get the colour purple immediately, even if they appear out of the blue....

I noticed that too,

however I can understand this due to the heavy burden placed on the MODs.

I consider it a test of my patience. (which I have never been good at)

[Sideshow Shaman]

Originally Posted by burgundia

What i find really incredible is that people like you, Paul, are sort of "on probation" while others get the colour purple immediately, even if they appear out of the blue....

Originally Posted by Paul.T.

I noticed that too,

however I can understand this due to the heavy burden placed on the MODs.

I consider it a test of my patience. (which I have never been good at)

The reason for this is that "senior member" status is currently linked to the number of posts a user has made. This, unfortunately, rewards trollish behavior. [constantly posting is an aspect of being a troll, not the full definition, but an aspect]

A better way to determine Senior Member status would be by time elapsed since sign-up.

...hope some moderators can institute that change,

[Dood]

Originally Posted by Sideshow Shaman

This, unfortunately, rewards trollish behavior. [constantly posting is an aspect of being a troll, not the full definition, but an aspect]

A better way to determine Senior Member status would be by time elapsed since sign-up.

...hope some moderators can institute that change,

Exactly! Well put! In fact that is what I have been 'forced' to do.
A time Limit or even a quick scan of members accounts could screen out any people that could be 'trouble makers'.
Most people do not abuse the system...

[Dood]

Originally Posted by burgundia

What i find really incredible is that people like you, Paul, are sort of "on probation" while others get the colour purple immediately, even if they appear out of the blue....

Very true. I cannot PM or even reply to a Visitor Message.
I have broken no 'Rules' or any T&Cs on any forum but, I am treated as if I did.

Also, people will slip back on regardless by way of a 'Proxy'.
So an IP ban does not necessarily work.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Dood

Very true. I cannot PM or even reply to a Visitor Message.
I have broken no 'Rules' or any T&Cs on any forum but, I am treated as if I did.

Don't worry Dood,

Just keep racking up the posts

Cheers my friend!

[TruthWalker]

Or, everyone could just stop acting like royal A - holes?

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by TruthWalker

Or, everyone could just stop acting like royal A - holes?

In my best kindergarten mode.."Takes one to know one!"

I was taught that viruses cause diarrhea TW, you seem to cause a lot of it as per your own just deleted threads.

Us

oh, ps.... Thanks for recognizing my royalty though...... glad to know you can at least see some truth.... Smiles and skips off.

[TruthWalker]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

In my best kindergarten mode.."Takes one to know one!"

I was taught that viruses cause diarrhea TW, you seem to cause a lot of it as per your own just deleted thread.

Us

This forum is one of the most unconstructive places I have seen online.

It will ALWAYS be full of problems until people start being more sincere.

It's that simple.

I'm about to be banned anyway.. so this is probably the lasy you'll hear of "TruthWalker"...

[Dood]

Originally Posted by Majorion

Don't worry Dood,

Just keep racking up the posts

Cheers my friend!

Hi ya Majorian...
That is the Rub for me...I do most of my 'Networking' in PMs and not in open threads.
I also like to simply read/lurk and I feel punished for not posting just for the sake of posting.
I could not even reply to a simple Visitor Message.

I 'understand' the WHY of it all but, not everyone is a 'Bad Guy' and out to spam or troll.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Dood

Hi ya Majorian...
That is the Rub for me...I do most of my 'Networking' in PMs and not in open threads.
I also like to simply read/lurk and I feel punished for not posting just for the sake of posting.
I could not even reply to a simple Visitor Message.

I 'understand' the WHY of it all but, not everyone is a 'Bad Guy' and out to spam or troll.

Let me see if I can send you a test message. Might open your PM account.

Just keep an eye, I'm guessing it won't work, but its worth a try.

[Paul.T.]

Just a thought

Instead of a probationary period or along with it and not having to revert back to subscription making it hard for those that truly want to join.

Could some sort of application for membership be created to be reviewed by existing members for acceptance. It may sound a bit cliquish or elite but I think we can work out the bugs as a group.

Just a thought!!

[TruthWalker]

Originally Posted by Paul.T.

Just a thought

Instead of a probationary period or along with it and not having to revert back to subscription making it hard for those that truly want to join.

Could some sort of application for membership be created to be reviewed by existing members for acceptance. It may sound a bit cliquish or elite but I think we can work out the bugs as a group.

Just a thought!!

I know how to ensure that members who are banned stay banned - but I'm not telling anyone how because people are getting banned for no good reason. All that needs to happen is that the forum needs to stop treating the new members like dirt -- and start being more serious and there will be little problem thereafter.

[tron]

"Or, everyone could just stop acting like royal A - holes?"
not constructive or relevant to original post.
Please restate the medical emergency.



I like this idea as I want to learn and share without condemnation.

[TruthWalker]

What a sad forum.

In all honesty.

This is one sad, sad, unprofessional circus.

You ban people (who need not have been banned) and then wonder why you have problems.

Then you insult people all over the forums, and when they complain about it -- your answer is to close threads and ban people.

It is ridiculous.

[Dadrious]

Originally Posted by TruthWalker

What a sad forum.

In all honesty.

This is one sad, sad, unprofessional circus.

You ban people (who need not have been banned) and then wonder why you have problems.

Then you insult people all over the forums, and when they complain about it -- your answer is to close threads and ban people.

It is ridiculous.

Unconstructive.

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by TruthWalker

What a sad forum.

In all honesty.

This is one sad, sad, unprofessional circus.

You ban people (who need not have been banned) and then wonder why you have problems.

Then you insult people all over the forums, and when they complain about it -- your answer is to close threads and ban people.

It is ridiculous.

"WHERE IS THE DARN IGGY BUTTON ON THIS PERPETUAL PARASITE tw?"

[Dood]

Well, to each their own I guess....
I personally never use an 'Ignore Button'. If I want to Ignore someone I simply do not read their posts and move on...
Even people that seem annoying can add to the equation.
In other words I can learn from people I disagree with.

[tone3jaguar]

I keep it very simple, I choose not to read things that are irrelevant anywhere including here. If I open a thread and it is just someone being a pain in the ass, then I close it and read another.

[Moxie]

I've been noticing the numerous, frivilous postings, many getting edgy and mean spirited. It is obvious to me that people are not monitoring their thoughts and they are becoming hairtriggers to post.

Are these psychic attacks? I've thought such that even Bill Ryan has been "affected"...even compromised. It's so obvious to me that people are haviing their buttons pushed, we all experience this... but ask yourself if your response is really needed before posting.

And, just because someone responds derrogatorily to a post, it does not require your response to their response, whether it's in defense or whatever.. just skip over it...

Examine your self please. People are so Easily triggered, easily angered, easily offended. NOT good, not good at all.

People, where is your Grounding Skill? Check your "programs", reboot is necessary!
Name calling in public, take it p.m. please

[Leunamros]

Originally Posted by Moxie

I've been noticing the numerous, frivilous postings, many getting edgy and mean spirited. It is obvious to me that people are not monitoring their thoughts and they are becoming hairtriggers to post.

Are these psychic attacks? I've thought such that even Bill Ryan has been "affected"...even compromised. It's so obvious to me that people are haviing their buttons pushed, we all experience this... but ask yourself if your response is really needed before posting.

And, just because someone responds derrogatorily to a post, it does not require your response to their response, whether it's in defense or whatever.. just skip over it...

Examine your self please. People are so Easily triggered, easily angered, easily offended. NOT good, not good at all.

People, where is your Grounding Skill? Check your "programs", reboot is necessary!
Name calling in public, take it p.m. please

Trolls show how far are present in the people who feeds them, the weaknesses they have.