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01-23-2010, 03:19 AM | #1 |
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New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
New audio of conversation featuring David Wilcock and Ben Fulford here:
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01-23-2010, 04:47 AM | #2 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
ty for alerting me to this i will listen with interest
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01-23-2010, 06:59 AM | #3 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
here's the link to the mp3
Kiss The iLLs goodbye http://www.divinecosmos.com/podcasts...1-10_final.mp3 - pass this out widely |
01-23-2010, 08:02 AM | #4 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
Very interesting read and as always, I hope there's enough truth in it. I so want to see the crooks in the Bush-Clinton-Bush/DVD alliance taken down big time.
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01-23-2010, 12:36 PM | #5 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
Hello all,
I've listened to it. To me it sounds like a public relation operation to re-establish Fulford as a credible whistleblower. I don't buy it. Sorry. Donald |
01-23-2010, 12:59 PM | #6 |
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This is amazing stuff... Perhaps the start of 'The New Paradigm' ...
quote... There are now several groups with active plans for implementing a new paradigm to replace the one of endless war and genocide being pursued by the criminals who have taken over Western civilization. One group centered on the British empire would like to begin construction of massive free energy facilities to remove salt from sea-water and use the resulting fresh water to turn the deserts green. This group is allying itself with the Middle Eastern monarchies and plans to work simultaneously in Australia and the Arabian peninsula. This group also wants to pay the world’s deep sea fishing fleets to stop all fishing for two or three years in order to allow the oceans to replenish themselves. A different group based in Australia but with powerful connections throughout the G7 proposes turning the deserts green by using etheric weather engineering technology. They also plan to start cleaning up the world’s most polluted sites using zeolite, an abundant mineral that absorbs toxic substances and prevents them from interacting with the environment in a harmful manner. They also have free energy technology. A third group based on the US military-intelligence establishment proposes a 5-year swords to plowshares transformation of the Pentagon. This group has the potential to develop the over 6,000 patents that have hitherto been suppressed for “national security” reasons. One technology they possess is anti-gravity. This would make automobiles obsolete and allow roadways to be transformed into gardens. They claim to control technology that allows the creation of portals into other dimensions. They claim (we have not seen proof but have heard this from many credible eye-witnesses) that many so-called underground bases around the world are actual such portals. Hopefully we will soon be able to see if this is true. If so the implications are more than mind-boggling. This group will no doubt join forces with the various “programs” and trusts that have been fighting the Federal Reserve Board for decades. A fourth group linking the Vatican and Russia sent us the following proposal: We are working with leading world scientists from top prestigious institutions in Russia, they are developing many innovations: * in the fields of energy generating (heat and/or electricity) using water as fuel, * manufacturing new elements and isotopes from cheap materials, * converting radioactive materials (waste) into stable condition, * desalinating sea water to produce fresh water without any salted residuals, * transmutation of poisonous materials into inert materials, * municipal waste recycling, * motors of higher power at lower consumption of electricity, * special converters and transformers, * earthquake prediction, * New Approach Towards Understanding Origination of Matter and Energy in Universe from vacuum, * many technologies for the nuclear energy industry that will be the top energy by 2050 according to EDF, and much more. There are many technologies/projects in need of investment that are on the market, some that are about to enter in the market and some that need more years of investigation. At any time it can be arranged a meeting in the several prestigious institutions in Moscow or the Officials/scientists can go to Japan to make the presentations. Its also interesting what he says about Chistopher Story!!! Lets all hope... viking |
01-23-2010, 01:49 PM | #7 | |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
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Another tricky part is that they new paradigm has choice as a basic. Which extends to which paradigm we are in. So each of us must choose which paradigm we are going to feed our energy to. And the ease of the shift will be determined by that ratio. It's why its SOOOOO important right now that people watch what they do with their attention and energy, and what emotions they filter through. Love or fear. Love is the new, fear is the old. If you choose love, then the real work starts. It's not Love, except for ________ and _________ and _________! it's just plain love! |
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01-23-2010, 06:48 PM | #8 | |
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The economic transition will probably be very difficult as those in power now will not give up easily and will seek to "bring everyone else down with them". However, that will be nothing compared to the shift in conciseness that will have to occur in order to avoid the entire cycle repeating itself in another 6000 years. Getting people to see reality in a different way, a sustainable way, will be difficult because, in general, I think people tend to gravitate toward their comfort zone even if it means their own demise. Convincing people to abandon their area of comfort to "something better" is always a tough sell. And in a manner of speaking, this is correct as "satan appears as an angle of light" and will promise love and light and freedom and prosperity to those who follow only to find the opposite happening at the end of the day. This appears to be an inescapable cycle that has occurred many times in the history of our planet. A conundrum without any real solution. This is what I am grappling with at the moment. What appears to be good is actually bad and what appears to be bad is actually good. Yin and Yang. It appears to be the order of the universe and a "solution" is elusive if one even exists at all. Its the Twilight Zone and its all that there is. Are we all living in some kind of bizarre dream from which we awaken into the same dream, over and over again? |
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01-23-2010, 07:15 PM | #9 |
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I found the article and interview very compelling. Especially on the heels of Wilcock's Endgame e-book http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...losure-endgame
I hope there are factions that are indeed working to put an end to this Western New World Order/ Fed etc... Something BIG big is surely happening - just look at all that has happened just this week - Haiti, the wake up call in the Massachusetts election, which was a cry against the corporatists - and the Supreme Court ruling giving corporations the right to take over our political system even more. Progressive radio hosts are finally starting to use the term Fascism instead of Corporatism and people all over the USA seem to be waking up and getting very angry... As for me, I hope for the best, I try to stay grounded in Love and Light and and do my best to look at all this as a witness, as my spiritual guidance suggests. Maybe time to get some rice and beans in stock, for even if/ when my preferred chosen timeline happens/ unfolds, there will be transition jolts - hopefully smooth and short lived - but something is definitely up, and it's now... Blessings to us all, stay in love and hope, and gratitude... |
01-23-2010, 08:07 PM | #10 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
Very informative a must listen. Thanks for posting it .
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01-23-2010, 10:57 PM | #11 | |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
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They may hold the paper, but it is most certainly drenched in innocent blood. Therefore the Fascist Dr Strangelove's of the world have no legal right whatsoever, and the need to answer to the law for their crimes. And as for Fulford engineering a deal with Mitsibushi to allow the Queen to cash a 2 trillion dollar cheque, which is then given to Bush Jnr to expand the War, presumably in Yeman. Please! And No Benjamin, those rocker-fellers and Rothschilds and Royal Dienasty's are not going to be allowed to keep their mansions. Inbred swine that they are. And yes there will be Warcrimes trials and stick your truth and reconcilliation farces where the sun don't shine. Not on your f-ing nelly mate. The Gallows sounds sweet at the mo. we can deal with that for your black-drogon society, cos they chicken-****. Obviously these people and their institutions need to be bought down, including the Vatican and Islam Israel etc etc. You will never see a world of Peace & love if those who cause terror are allowed to get away with it. And most important where are those who controll those Bush's & Clintan's et al. That is the Puppet Masters, we want them. Last edited by feeqa; 02-03-2010 at 01:13 AM. |
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01-24-2010, 02:37 AM | #12 | |
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This astounds me. IMO? Their mansions should be given to their servants and the masters should be forced to serve the servants for the remainder of their lives. This, all under the watchful eyes of uniformed officers who watch these every minute of every hour of every day, until they have no more days. If these are to have such wonderful treatment after what they have perpetrated against the people of this world...I'm talking about billions here, then ALL laws at that point, become null and void and chaos reigns. There will be no one jailed and no need for police or lawyers or judges or prisons or Supreme Courts. Why oh why, should these very and extremely guilty people be allowed to live a life of comfort and security? I'm just not getting it. Last edited by Snowbird; 01-24-2010 at 10:24 PM. |
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01-24-2010, 03:23 AM | #13 |
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I listened to part of it. I dunno, getting harder for me to take all this too seriously. Just didn't click with me at all.....I got bored and closed it.
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01-24-2010, 04:56 AM | #14 |
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01-24-2010, 06:11 PM | #15 | |
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If so, I can relate. |
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01-23-2010, 01:47 PM | #16 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
How does it re-establish Fulford as a credible whistle blower if it's bunk? If it's all bull won't Fulford's credibility go down?
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01-25-2010, 01:13 AM | #17 | |
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i agree with all above jaded posters lol.. i have it buffered, psyching myself up now to start listening. also isnt that long winded info chrostopher storey... hmmm minefield springs to mind Last edited by pineal-pilot-in merkabah; 01-25-2010 at 01:17 AM. |
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01-25-2010, 01:28 AM | #18 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
I think sometimes these fellas have intriguing things to say but for me, there is way too much (IMO) crapola in the mix. And some people I really get the impression they like to hear themselves talk and the attention.
I don't know.... maybe I'm too jaded. But not much of these fellas material resonates with me. |
01-25-2010, 02:13 AM | #19 |
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half way through and sounds interesting. some of this stuff matches with what webster tarpley is saying and also reporting from the msm ie: the interpol info. webster tarpley is 100% only saying stuff that can be proven. so intersting to see some of this crossover.
finished it !!! not as off the wall as hes been recently..ill look out for more main steam coroborations Last edited by pineal-pilot-in merkabah; 01-25-2010 at 03:05 AM. |
01-25-2010, 03:21 PM | #20 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
"Hitler was actually Queen Elizabeth's Uncle." - Fulford
"Oh, my God." - Wilcock "If you look at a photograph of Hitler and a photograph of Kaiser Wilhelm and a photograph of King George V, they look almost identical." - BF (3/4 into AUDIO) "Wow." - DW "Thus, it was claimed that Maria Schickelgruber's son was fathered by none less than a member of the Rothschild family for whom she had been in service." - Hitler's Origins (1964) Alexander Lernet-Holenia From the Web . . . Last edited by Zenbuoy; 01-25-2010 at 05:15 PM. |
01-25-2010, 10:00 PM | #21 |
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i think i mentioned this in another thread but webster tarpley also has cross corolated some of this info too. imo webster tarpley is straight up and down as you can get, so far away from woo woo as you are likely to find
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01-26-2010, 02:21 AM | #22 | |
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AS much as I`d love it to be on the up and up I have doubts about both of these guys for various reasons that I won`t go into. I like Ben he is good for a laugh and on most days can lighten the mood up considerably however he has been caught shall we say stretching it a bit on more than one occasion |
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01-26-2010, 04:05 AM | #23 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
My thoughts on this are:
Wilcock is ever growing in confidence and makes a good interviewer... Fulford should get a new cat.. I mean microphone.... I must buy some (shares in) rice and beans |
01-26-2010, 05:00 AM | #24 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
Some interesting comments from the transcript near the
end of the conversation. http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/st...view-exclusive DW: Great. Well, I really want to thank you, and I’m sure that everyone listening to this thanks you. Just one quick question is, how vomitous [wtf?<grin>] do you think the economic transition will be when it actually happens? Should we be prepared for some very hard times? Or do you think it’ll be fairly smooth? Or, the common person listening to this, how is it going to affect them? BF: Hopefully, it’ll be fairly smooth, and there won’t be a lot of disruptions. But, I do believe everybody should have a certain amount of food on hand, because the bad guys are going to try to create starvation, still. DW: Right. BF: And it’s not over until it’s over. But, you know, forget about gold. At the end of the day you can’t eat gold. Okay? The most important thing is to have enough food and a plan, you know, somewhere in the countryside you can go to if things really do fall apart. But, I don’t think it’s going to come to that. DW: What would be the time window and/or the signal that we would need to really take that seriously? BF: Well, if they ever decide… You know, they’re trying to declare martial law, but if they ever actually start physically rounding people up and taking them to these Halliburton camps, that’s the time for everybody to grab their guns and, you know, fight for their lives. DW: Well, if INTERPOL is in the US and stopping these guys, don’t you think that would also stop the Halliburton troops and stuff? BF: Well, that’s what we believe, and we don’t think the Pentagon is going to just obey any orders to do that, so I don’t think it’s going to happen. But I’m saying that’s the worst-case scenario they were planning, and we’re pretty sure it’s not going to happen. DW: Right. I know it’s a war and it’s non-linear, but what would you say is the most probable window of time that we have to be prepared for these hardships to occur? BF: Ah... this year. DW: Okay. So, it would be a good idea for the people listening to us talking to probably prepare now and have some stored food on hand so that in the event that there’s a disruption temporarily of goods and services, that they can ride it out fairly smoothly? Last edited by FIIISH; 01-26-2010 at 05:34 AM. |
01-26-2010, 05:10 AM | #25 |
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Re: New Wilcock and Fulford conversation
I am only skeptical of David due to his whole "I... Am... RA!!" bit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6ggA...eature=related Fulford I do not know, to much on this guy, but I do understand that the elements & sources he is surrounded by are very devious, and I am sure he is being fed info, I like him, but any man that claims to have the Yakuza under the thumb is questionable. |
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