A major new Camelot interview -- Bob Dean: The Coming of Nibiru

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by feeler

Plain people? What a Nazi sympathizer.

Thanks for your kindness. So, just to mention that millions of NSDAP members were plain people and not blood drinking demons makes me a Nazi sympathizer. Thank you for you intolerance.

Not every NSDAP member was like Himmler, Heydrich or Hitler.
In this party were also physicians, teachers, loving mothers....

Not even the whole SS was responsible for the Holocaust, at least all supported the system, but actually working on the Holocaust were only 10,000 SS Members:
High ranks like Himmler and Heydrich and 10,000 men of the SS Division "Totenkopf" and the Einsatzgruppen (Task Squads) in the east.

The rest of the Waffen SS (former VT = Verfuegungs Truppe) were just a military elite force like the US Marines today, they mostly were at the front and not in any death camps.

The Waffen SS had in the middle of the war hundreds of thousands men and at the end it became a mass-army of 3 millions.
But all 3 million Waffen SS members are now blamed for the cruel deeds of 10,000 sickos and some insane politicians.
Even all 18 million Wehrmacht (German Army) members got blamed for the deeds of these 10,000.
And at the end, even all 80 million Germans got blamed for the deeds of this these 10,000.

(In Britain even today some people love to paraphrase Germans as "Nazis")

Imagine every single American gets now blamed for the deeds of some insane sick individuals in Abu Graib. Or for the insane politics of their last president.

Originally Posted by feeler

Do you know the Nazi group included mind control specialists, interrogation specialists, and particle beam weapon specialists?....Do you know particle beam weapons were used to kill 3000 civilians on Sep 11?

That's the same issue as the "Nazi Saucers" - BS.
If you give me hard proof - I'll believe you. I've no problem to admit a misapprehension.
But until you don't deliver the proof I've to say: weird esotheric BS.
Of course they thought about saucer-shaped planes, made some sketches and maybe some 1:1 models. But they never built real flying saucers.
Everything the US pilots saw were the jets they developed in the end phase of the war, like the Heinkel He 178, the Messerschmitt Me 262 and the Messerschmitt Me 163 „Komet“. The same with your "ominous" particle beam, maybe there were some ideas and plans for it, but nothing more.
If the Nazis would have possessed saucers and particle beams, wouldn't they have won the war?

Originally Posted by feeler

Do you know it was illegal to bring them in to America?

Yes, maybe. But the US wanted to gain their research results. They had to win a race against the Soviets, so they ****ted on the law. As the agencies always do. Is that new for you?

Originally Posted by feeler

Do you know that was the starting point of the corruption/infiltration of the CIA?

The corruption started much earlier. Maybe in 1776 when all the Freemasons came to power. Or in 1924 when Hoover created the FBI and ruled it till his death in 1972. (I know the FBI is not El CIAda, but you know what I mean)
Another starting point could have been 1913--> FED
Or 1941 when the war started.
Or 1947
But in no case a bunch of German scientists, of whom the most weren't able to speak English, could have started the corruption in El CIAda with some Jedi mind tricks.

Originally Posted by feeler

Do you realize we are heading towards a Nazi-style dictatorship?

What we are heading for is TOTALITARISM!!!
And that worldwide.
Stop only blaming Fascism and Nazism! They are only one side of the coin!
There were also Communism, Stalinism, Lenism, Marxism, Maoism and the Red Khmers.
Why do you always forget what Stalin did? Was he such a nice guy for you?
Are you maybe a "Commie sympathizer" (payback hehe)
Or what about Mao, who killed 46 millions of his own people?
Or Pol-Pot who killed over 2 millions of his small Cambodian nation?

Come to reality, all this dirt together is the same!
And it's called TOTALITARISM!

Stop blaming just a part of the criminal body!

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by zorgon

You say that... and you have this in your signature..



Forgive me if I am confused.

I forgive you What's wrong with my signature? Do you doubt that 9/11 was an insidejob?
I don't know what exactly happened on that day, but I assure you the official report is the real conspiracy theory.
And I think you would agree about that.

That is not contrary to any historical facts I mention here.

Originally Posted by zorgon

Von Braun did change his tune later in his career... He quit NASA because he was against arming space..

But he was not just an ordinary citizen... he built weapons of mass destruction and had no qualms about how they were being used... And when he came to America... he built weapons of mass destructions for us... long before he went to NASA... he built the ICBM's

After the war, 118 German rocket scientists worked together at Fort Bliss, Texas.
(U.S. ARMY AVIATION AND MISSILE COMMAND)

Operation Paper Clip brought 580 Nazi scientist over here..

That I can explain to you:
von Braun always dreamed for a lunar flight. Even in his childhood.
He made sketches and plans long before the Nazis seized power.

But then they came to power, and he was in the right age to fulfill his dreams - we shall not forget the Nazi movement was a highly modern movement! - Hitler was the first politician who flew from campaign-speech to campaign-speech by plane.
They massively used the radio - they made a mass medium out of it - they even supported the developement of the TV and the first live broadcasting in 1936! And so on and so forth...

And that attracted von Braun, he thought that now his time has come for developing a lunar flight.
Till this moment (pre-1939) for most Germans the Nazi-movement wasn't really a negative thing - they thought they would bring them progress, especially the annihilation of the great unemployment was important for them.
They never guessed that a war would come, not in 1938 and not even in early 1939.

You can read it in old newspaper articles of British and American reporters of this time, where they described: "There's no nation on earth who is such war-reluctant as the Germans, they just enjoy their economical recovery."

But then - WHAM - the war came.
And also von Braun had to show allegiance to the system, for example by entering the party.
And there's a term called: "rally around the flag (in hard times)" Especially Brits are very familiar to this term.

"Right or wrong - it's my country"

And at least von Braun was a German and he did what he could do to support his country - and that was to build rockets.
Of course that was terrible for the people in England - but what could he do about it? - he had to do it.

As Bomber Harris and his RAF pilots had to bomb hundreds of thousands of Germans to ashes - it was war.

In fact there are on both sides war criminals, but at the end only the loser gets accused.


And when the war ended, what should von Braun do? Germany was ruined and he was not a convinced Nazi but a Anti-Communist. Especially because he said to himself "Never again a totalitarian movement like the Nazis shall rule over Europe again".
Because he saw the result of that with his own eyes.

And Stalin and his Communists for him were the 2nd totalitarian force who could bomb Europe - maybe the whole world - to ashes again.

And so he choosed the Americans, because they were the big Anti-Communistic power back then.

And so at first he had again to show his allegiance to them by building ICBMs and taking the American citizenship - it was the Cold War!

But he never lost his paramount goal out of sight - the lunar flight!
And only at the end of his life it was granted to him to work on this paramount goal - the lunar flight.

And that was for the whole human kind. Earlier in his life he always was abused by leaders and world powers.


And today?
There are some smartass people who read 5 pages of some books related to him, where they read 2 words "Wernher von Braun" and "Nazi" and then they think that they are in the know and have to propagate it to others.

And the same procedure with the rest of the 580 "Nazi" scientists.
Nazi=German? Be honest folks!

[PodWORLD]

Just a little aside.

Von Braun took a lead from the Robert Goddard the father of american rocketry who lived and worked from 1930 - 1942 in...Roswell New Mexico.

King Lear is absolutely correct. Peoples knowledge of WW2 is very often thin at best. I wondered as a child why the allies never bombed the train tracks to at least slow the concentration camp process down. Then you become more informed and realise how complex and dirty the whole business really was. Read Rabbi Weissmandel's ten questions for zionism here.

http://www.nkusa.org/Historical_Docu...nquestions.cfm

[Norval]

Miriam Delicado Interview, Your Views? 367 posts, and 13,680 views.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3397

IMO, I would put both of these interviews in the same class. Nothing new, very little
substance, a book sellers ploy. Hype over nothing. When will Bill and Kerry's book be
coming out?

[petem]

Re: A major new Camelot interview -- Bob Dean: The Coming of Nibiru

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Miriam Delicado Interview, Your Views? 367 posts, and 13,680 views.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3397

IMO, I would put both of these interviews in the same class. Nothing new, very little
substance, a book sellers ploy. Hype over nothing. When will Bill and Kerry's book be
coming out?

You must be getting old Norval. Skepticism at its best. Not one of their guests, on Camelot, give me the impression of wanting a "MESSIAH" label. I have yet to hear one of them mention buying their book. They each give us something to analyse or even research.

Tell me something, what are your plans in the next few years?

[Norval]

Funny you should ask, as I just posted this here, ,

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...9&postcount=78

[Operator]

Originally Posted by zorgon

2012... "we will be crossing the Galactic Plane" Wrong we did that 25 million years ago and are currently 50 light years above the rim

Hi Zorgon,

This is new to me ....
As far as I know project Stardust is sending probes out to measure how close we are in our approach ...

Do you have any background info on this to proof or support the statement ?
Not to attack you or whatever but rather to re-evaluate my own info.

Thanks, cheers

Originally Posted by Operator

Hi Zorgon,

This is new to me ....
As far as I know project Stardust is sending probes out to measure how close we are in our approach ...

Hehe Link to Stardust please?


Do you have any background info on this to proof or support the statement ?
Not to attack you or whatever but rather to re-evaluate my own info.

Mais naturellement,Monsieur

Standford University

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/FAQ/Qsolsysspeed.html

I did make one typo though... I said 25 when it's 2..

From the book: _Guide to the Galaxy_, 1994; Henbest and Couper; Cambridge University Press.

The Sun is moving towards Lambda Herculis at 20 kilometers per second or 12 miles per second. Or in units "per hour": 72,000 kilometers per hour or 45,000 miles per hour. This speed is in a frame of rest if the other stars were all standing still.

The three-dimensional picture of the Sun's movement through the Galaxy is a little more complicated.

The Sun is moving upwards, out of the plane of the Milky Way, at a speed of 7 kilometers per second. Currently the Sun lies 50 light-years above the mid-plane of the galaxy, and its motion is steadily carrying it further away.

But the gravitational pull of the stars in the Galactic (Milky Way) plane is slowing down the Sun's escape. The astronomer Frank Bash estimates that in 14 million years the sun will reach its maximum height above the Galactic disk. From that 250 light-year position, it will be pulled back towards the plane of the Galaxy. Passing through, it will travel to a point 250 light-years below the disk, then oscillate upwards again to reach its present position 66 million years from now. We crossed the plane 2 million years ago. We are currently in the thick of the galactic disk and our view of distant regions is largely blocked by dust but 10-20 million years from now, our motion will allow a full view of our starry galaxy.

The Sun-Galactic center distance is 25,000 light-years -- plus or minus 2,000 light-years. The galaxy is thought to be 100,000 light-years in diameter and we are thought to be about halfway out from the center (used to be thought that we were two-thirds out).

If you have a good idea of the Sun's distance from the Galactic center, then the solar system's speed can be approximated. Using speed measurements of the gas at different distances from the Galactic center, the Sun appears to be cruising along at 200 kilometers per second and it takes 240 million years to complete the grand circuit around the Galaxy. This speed is an absolute speed.

That was used in my presentation of how fast and in what direction we are moving for this..

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/41pegas..._of_Earth.html

Of course anyone can say all science is lying as well... but if we have to throw out all science to keep the conspiracy alive, then there is nothing left.

Originally Posted by PodWORLD

Just a little aside.

Von Braun took a lead from the Robert Goddard the father of american rocketry who lived and worked from 1930 - 1942 in...Roswell New Mexico.

Actually he took his lead from Herman Oberth, the German counterpart of Goddard... and Tsiolkovsky beat both of them with the design of the liquid fuel rocket... and finally got credit for being first...that is history

Originally Posted by King Lear

I forgive you What's wrong with my signature? Do you doubt that 9/11 was an insidejob?
I don't know what exactly happened on that day, but I assure you the official report is the real conspiracy theory.
And I think you would agree about that.

Oh sure its an inside job, I just happen to believe that the NAZI's are still kicking under a different banner. I will let that rest right now as I can can not show you the proof yet... however Prescott Bush, Rockellers and Standard Oil funded the NAZI into power... THAT is history... and where are these three today? Bush still sits on the throne, Rockefellars still control money, and Standard Oil is now Exxon/Chevron et all. Exxon recorded record ever quarter profits in the opening year of the Iraqi Freedom Movement (that many MISTAKENLY call a "war")

Now as to 9/11 Particle Beam Weapon...

IF this was as you say BS explain to me how come the court case on this very issue was ..
A) Allowed to be filed in the first place considering the penalty for frivolous law suits in such a case
B) Has twice stood calls to dismiss...

Do you think our courts would have allowed this case to be heard if the judge did not feel there was enough evidence to proceed?

QUITAM COMPLAINT and JURY DEMAND DOCKET NO. May 31, 2007

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

Plaintiff/Relator,
DR. MORGAN REYNOLDS on behalf of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

vs.

Defendants. :
SCIENCE APPLICATIONS INTERNATIONAL CORP.;
APPLIED RESEARCH ASSOCIATES, INC.;
NuSTATS; COMPUTER AIDED ENGINEERING ASSOCIATES, INC.;
DATASOURCE, INC.; GEOSTAATS, INC.;
GILSANZ MURRAY STEFICEK LLP;
HUGHES ASSOCIATES, INC.; AJMAL ABBASI;
EDUARDO KAUSEL; DAVID PARKS;
DAVID SHARP; DANIELE VENEZANO;
JOSEF VAN DYCK; KASPAR WILLIAM;
ROLF JENSEN & ASSOCIATES, INC;
ROSENWASSER/GROSSMAN CONSULTING ENGINEERS, P.C.;
SIMPSON GUMPERTZ & :HEGER, INC.;
S. K. GHOSH ASSOCIATES, INC.;
SKIDMORE, OWINGS & MERRILL, LLP;
TENG & ASSOCIATES, INC.;
UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES, INC.;
WISS, JANNEY, ELSTNER ASSOCIATES, INC.;

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_...Jury_Trial.htm

CURRENT STATUS of this action

EVIDENCE FOR DIRECTED ENERGY WEAPONS PUT FORWARD IN A DQA REQUEST FOR CORRECTION: PERSONS WITH SUPPORTING INFORMATION ARE ASKED TO COME FORWARD AND BE HEARD

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/N...Tam_Wood.shtml

So while you say BS... the Courts are hearing evidence

You can ask John Lear about this case as he has sworn an avidavit to add his voice to this complaint

You can also ask John about the current status of the NAZI and where he got that info from

Many people sit in forums and are arm chair rebels...

A handful are brave enough to take open action...

USA Military Officers Challenge Official Account of September 11
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_...ed_%20911.html

They include former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence, Major General Albert Stubblebine
Major General Albert Stubblebine was part of Project Stargate and after that closed was a prime founder of PsiTech (that 'took over' from Stargate)
Major General Albert Stubblebine was also part of the Aviary

That is all I will add for now on that Gets into some deep water from there.. but I will add that the NAZI info comes via this channel

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth!
http://www.ae911truth.org/

Pilots for 911 Truth
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_...For_Truth.html

You will find Johns name on page one.

Originally Posted by petem

R They each give us something to analyse or even research.

Hehe Yeah and 'some' get 'annoyed' when you follow the lead and actually dare to find and post something real to back it up...

Or dare to question their source.

Would it not make more sense and be more believable if they gave source documents and links etc other than just a good story? I mean its expected of us to back up everything... why do 'they' get a free pass?

[King Lear]

@Zorgon

Perhaps you're right on the beam. I can't say. I need time to study the documents you've linked here before making a judgement.

Perhaps it's the same as with the TR-3B. Who knows?

After all the black budget is 1.3 trillion $ big - almost 2 times as big as the bailout



But on the funding of the Nazis I can comment:
In the early years, long before 1933, Hitler was funded by 2 rich ladies personally. And then later he became a multi-millionaire of his own because of the selling of his book "Mein Kampf".

And the Nazi party was funded from the mid-1920's till the seizure of power in 1933 by the 2 major German industrialists Thyssen and Krupp.

And they did that because they were patriots and very nationalistic, they hoped that through this new movement Germany could rise again.



What the American industrialists, like Prescott Bush did, was just bargaining with a new rising power - nothing more.
And very few like Henry Ford sympathisized with their ideology.


Never Rockefeller gave Hitler 10 trillion $ in the right hand and in the left hand a letter on which was written that he had to fulfill the NWO agenda or such stupid things.

That's esotheric - excuse me - BS.


And you cannot call American industrialists Nazis - that would mean they worship this certain ideology - and that's totally untrue!
The only one they worship is themselves - rember the Aaron Russo interview and his meeting with Rockefeller!

There're also no old nazis operating in disguise - ridiculous.
They are the new NWO guys - they give a damn on any ideology.
They're more a kind of nihilists.

So,
Stop blaming just a part of the criminal body!

[feeler]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Yes, maybe. But the US wanted to gain their research results. They had to win a race against the Soviets, so they ****ted on the law. As the agencies always do. Is that new for you?

Nothing new? Is that your "moral justification" for you to accept bringing in a bunch of psychopaths (i.e. mind control specialists, interrogation specialists, and particle beam weapon specialists) into the CIA to further corrupt the perhaps already corrupted CIA?

You, a self-proclaimed 9/11 truther, obviously failed to relate the 9/11 false flag operation to the staged Reichstag fire, the Prescott-Bush-Nazi link, and the advanced particle beam weaponry (due in part to the Nazi "researchers") deployed to destroy the twin towers, resulting in 3000 civilian deaths.

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by feeler

Nothing new? Is that your "moral justification" for you to accept bringing in a bunch of psychopaths (i.e. mind control specialists, interrogation specialists, and particle beam weapon specialists) into the CIA to further corrupt the perhaps already corrupted CIA?

Before i accept such ridiculous claims I need some proofs of you feeler!
Zorgon claimed something - but he also delivered some documents I can study - YOU only claim!

Originally Posted by feeler

You, a self-proclaimed 9/11 truther, obviously failed to relate the 9/11 false flag operation to the staged Reichstag fire, the Prescott-Bush-Nazi link, and the advanced particle beam weaponry (due in part to the Nazi "researchers") deployed to destroy the twin towers, resulting in 3000 civilian deaths.

The only similarity between 9/11 and the burnt Reichstag is: that both administrations profited from it - nothing more.

Historic science till today admits that there is no evidence that the Nazis burnt the Reichstag. Historic science only says that they PROFITED of it.
Till today historic science says it was the mentally retarded Communist Marius van der Lubbe!

So, what do YOU really know about the Reichstag?

For example, someone like David Wilcock (with a college degree) said in his last interview: The Nazis "bombed" the Reichstag and "that it is admitted".
Ridiculous.

That comes out if someone does not really study history and just takes the headlines or refers to some wrong informations.

[Greg10036]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Hi, orionsbelt:

You make an excellent point, and your remarks about the 'children' who pushed Henry Deacon away from this forum are well taken here. I am still appalled at what happened.

I would love to see him return... I've received dozens of messages asking what I can do to persuade Henry to post here again. I've only been able to reply that I hope he will. He's been sorely missed by many, including myself.

In Australia, talking to some people there, I got a tiny taste of how little most of us on the 'outside' understand, and how advanced the classified technology really is (and what a complex mess we are in).

It gave me a headache for several days. I thought of Henry at the time... the truth is a huge burden to carry.

Very best as always, Bill

Speaking of Henry. You started to pursue a line of questioning in this interview which kind of got side lined. Specifically, I think you started to ask Bob about 'jump rooms' and Terran occupation of Mars when he brought up the Annunaki inhabitants of Mars and how they stopped the Phobos project. Did you get a chance off camera to cross check his Mars info with what Henry has said about jumping and inhabiting Mars and how the Annunaki would deal with that. Whether there is hostility, cooperation, or they simply are not there. Great to hear your info or your views on this.

Regarding your comment on the advanced tech. Withholding it from the public has created an energy gap, an exchange gap, as well as a tech gap. The secrecy has prevented us from joining the 21st century

Appreciate all of your great work. Thank you for this interview. All the best to you and Kerry.
g.

[feeler]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Before i accept such ridiculous claims I need some proofs of you feeler!
Zorgon claimed something - but he also delivered some documents I can study - YOU only claim!



The only similarity between 9/11 and the burnt Reichstag is: that both administrations profited from it - nothing more.

Historic science till today admits that there is no evidence that the Nazis burnt the Reichstag. Historic science only says that they PROFITED of it.
Till today historic science says it was the mentally retarded Communist Marius van der Lubbe!

So, what do YOU really know about the Reichstag?

And what do you know about Reichstag? Obviously you seem ready to believe the “lone gun man,” the “lone anthrax mailer,” and in this case the “lone arsonist,” who was legally blind.

Sure, you can see the “administrations” but failed to see the Nazi running them.

I am not Zorgon. Documents will not help you see the whole truth unless you drop your selective memory/thinking.

-feeler

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by feeler

And what do you know about Reichstag? Obviously you seem ready to believe the “lone gun man,” the “lone anthrax mailer,” and in this case the “lone arsonist,” who was legally blind.

Sure, you can see the “administrations” but failed to see the Nazi running them.

I am not Zorgon. Documents will not help you see the whole truth unless you drop your selective memory/thinking.

-feeler

Don't understand what you mean by the first part of your reply.

And the rest...
I feel sorry for you, because you seem to be ideologically blinded.

(you always will only see the right arm and ignore the rest of the body, i.e. you transform the right arm to the whole body)

[rogers2710]

I was listening to Bob Dean the other night about the E.T. interview He was more concerned about the E.T.'s treatment than anything else . .HE seems to be a very kind and loving man. On the subject of nibiru. well IIIIIIIIIIIIIII Just don't know.

[feeler]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Don't understand what you mean by the first part of your reply.

And the rest...
I feel sorry for you, because you seem to be ideologically blinded.

(you always will only see the right arm and ignore the rest of the body, i.e. you transform the right arm to the whole body)

And you always will only see the body ("administrations") without being able to see the spirit (i.e. Nazi ideology) inside.


-feeler

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by feeler

And you always will only see the body ("administrations") without being able to see the spirit (i.e. Nazi ideology) inside.


-feeler

but the body does not symbolize the administrations
spirit? so communism and capitalism has a nazi spirit ideology?!?

Man, that's sooo weird.





And all that started with someone accusing the good-hearted
Bob Dean for giving credit to Nazism. Unbelievable.

Bob is such a decent person.

[RSF]

Originally Posted by king lear

but the body does not symbolize the administrations
Spirit? So communism and capitalism has a nazi spirit ideology?!?

Man, that's sooo weird.





And all that started with someone accusing the lovely
bob dean giving credit to nazism. Unbelievable.

He's such a decent person.

---

hah ?
Rsf

[omshanti]

actually, my first post...
i so greatly enjoy listening to the interviews on proj cam...the diverse range of opinions...strategic "disinformation"- yes i agree, bob is likeable...warm and so on...
but it concerns me when people write of his unwavering integrity. in this interview he even admitted lying to kerry! - and, as many pointed out,..there really is no new info- even his closing words, although beautifully poetic (and a philosophy that greatly resonates with moi) nothing new....
for me the session was about three people genuinely likeing eachother. respect. goodwill. love. nothing wrong with that eh..!@

[pilot]

When did he admit to lying to Kerry? I guess I missed that.

The only thing that concerns me about whistle blowers who appear on the PC videos is that if they are being "allowed" to leak this information, then is it reliable? If we really aren't "supposed" to know, then we would not-they would never come forward, and if they did it would be the end of them.

Think of how many people have been permanently silenced for much less.

None of the people on PC SEEM to be in fear for their lives, so I assume they are sanctioned by some force to speak.

It is confusing and makes me want to cancel my cable. That way I'd be forced to rely on my own intuition more, and not all these expert whistleblowing insiders ...

the subjects they are discussing are out of most of our control-
all we can do is prepare and hope.

Certainly not waste precious time quibbling semantics with internet trolls who like to pick ridiculous arguments.

(Who ever responds will prove that they are who I refer to)

[feeler]

Originally Posted by King Lear

And all that started with someone accusing the lovely
Bob Dean giving credit to Nazism. Unbelievable.

He's such a decent person.

He acts and talks like an Illuminati promoting the NWO ("a One World Government"). Paraphrasing here: It's all good. It's all good. We are just having some "growing pain."

Wait a minute. Can anyone with a conscience call "water boarding" in Guantanamo Bay "growing pain?"

CLARIFICATION: NWO <> One World Government (i.e. not the same)

I just now finished page 125-127 of Bob's wife's book which provided the clarification. My apology.

[AussieG]

Hypothetically speaking, no foundation, fiction (get the drift)
After watching Bob Dean, if the Anonakie are and have been in charge since day dot. If planet X is there home and it is maintained by an energy source that relies on Gold. Would it not be a good idea to seed planets around it orbit with beings that could mine Gold so that as they traverse the vast distances they could replenish their supplies. It seems strange that the most precious metal on Earth just so happens to be gold, countries hoard and store it. The Knights Templar and the fractional banking system replaced gold with paper, and up until recently it was the basis of currency. The Central banks cleaned out Fort Knox in the 1950s and control the vast majority of the worlds GOLD
Just thinking!